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Can we make DIY Thermal Paste??

2019-04-11
I'm not totally sure how many people would recommend this but uh all of us PC building tech dudes already know about thermal paste okay aka the hot stuff aka the gray goo aka Grammys old sandwich spread what but what if you're outta thermal paste yeah you could just go order more picks them up from NCI X or you could make your own - actually got an email from a fan suggesting we do this so in this video we are going back to chemistry class and finding out whether any of these materials can work as a thermal paste substitute because Linus isn't here and he can't stop us but I do have Alex here to make sure that I don't blow up this PC with Nutella because that that's a real possibility what the hex gears impulse mechanical keyboard has RGB lighting a variety of different key switches and IP 56 water resistance so it can survive some of your worst spills use offer code LTT to save $10 at the link below as Alex could tell you but I will instead there's two main things fuck guys I'm not Linus till we get there sadly okay so the main purpose of thermal paste is to assist the heat transfer between the CPU and the heatsink when you put them together because you put them together but there's still a little bit of gaps in between so what do we need thermal paste to do what are the two main qualifications we're looking for so I guess the first one is that needs to be really easily spreadable so like you have all this little dips and stuff and you want to just fill those in you don't want to be creating like a layer between your CPU and your heatsink right and the other thing is that it has to be really good thermally conductive so you don't have just like a bunch of resistance between the two hmm you want that heat to be transferred yeah okay so with those qualifications there are a large number of materials that we could potentially use with varying efficiencies so what do we have here okay so some of you might be familiar with this toothpaste a lot of people have tried it and we're not gonna try it by itself today because it's been tried a lot but it's actually a surprisingly effective substitute the problem is that it's got fluoride in it and that means it's slightly corrosive and it also tends to dry out very easily so what we're gonna mix it with thanks to some tips on the Internet is petroleum jelly aka Vaseline but this is the no-name brand you can really bad stuff why is bad it's chunky oh that's true but if we mix it together I don't know I mean this is a smooth type of toothpaste because the main thing when you're using toothpaste you don't want the the gritty kind with like the little beads in it or whatever I'll just do it we just do it yeah I wanted to do it okay you could oh dear yes maybe I feel like that's slightly dangerous what you're a monster Alex what CPU is this also that's a 79 80 XE so maybe we don't want to get toothpaste a like a $2,000 process you're supposed to rein me in I'm not supposed to rein you in what are we doing here ah I don't know it seems to be working okay like I don't think it's the way that you thought that we are true well I think we're about good like okay yeah you want to try it like that yep the wrong way all right well you've made your bed and now we're gonna lie in it I guess so I'm guessing that you've already done the testing I ran a baseline with real thermal paste and I also ran it bareback as they say did you find a board that doesn't have a power button on it no it has a power button ready whoa it's on it works yes so we just got a boot it up and then run I to 60 for a little bit and stress test it and see whether the computer will explode that's how we know right yeah yeah all right I had a 64 um where do we have the weight it should come up automatically because I'm a prime a programmer I'm a big big tech hacker look at that oh jeez Oh fancy see that's what the toothpaste does oh that's pretty good like 20 degrees idling very nice what was our baseline head over to documents they're back in baseline so baseline we're looking at a max of about 65 degrees package go up to 70 hottest for 65 bareback we are looking at hundred and four degrees yep that's not good yeah when I did the bareback it just shot right up it past a hundred so so let's see here toothpaste and Vaseline looking actually not bad with CPU package is already at 68 hottest core okay so we're at 65 already so we're not beating thermal paste that is for sure things go real slow in your stress test in the CPU that's what I learned and which I already know it's only like five degrees over like actual thermal paste those so it's a way better option than just not having anything that's very true so if you're like really in a bind you're like I gotta get my old my dad's old Dell from when I was a small child up and running immediately right now not bad not horrible one of them got up to 79 that's too hot I wouldn't go outside if it was that hot so that one was kind of a joke all right guys but this next one actually might work as a real substitute because what we're using is silicon grease Thorne Lube it's wet Oh ring Lube it's a ring loop and that's not something dirty it's just things that you use for o-rings yeah yeah so we're actually combining silicon grease with drum roll please Diamond powder cool I didn't even know that was a thing but it is so we're basically using the diamond as the thermal conductor and the silicon grease as the medium for that material we're not just throwing this on okay we're gonna mix it properly this is a science this is a science laboratory and I won't stand for your nonsense so before if you're gonna deal with diamond powder at all guys we need masks alright and I'm really glad that Alex brought that up yeah let's do that I would have remembered about the masks okay yeah after you started coughing so this is what 0 to 100 don't open it yet 0 to 1 micron diamond powder I guess this is traditionally used for like polishing mirrors no it's 25 carat 25 carat oh okay so the ratio we're supposed to use is around 60/40 whatever that means I'm just gonna eyeball it them yep papa Alex so is this kind of just like making icy diamond like icy diamond has diamonds in it right yeah and it kind of looks like it - do you think we need more grease in there yeah maybe a bit should I be wearing gloves it's probably got some icy diamond for comparison oh wow that's dark yeah this is a lot thicker than other thermal pastes so how much did this diamond powder cost for that package it was like 15 bucks or something oh this is also a super weird application well you're taking your mask off yeah what are you doing the dust isn't around anymore we're good oh no science class is not in session anymore well except for the science for doing this yeah except for the except for this yeah we do what we must because we can that is a proverb and a half right there all right so idle looking like 30 degrees that feels like it's higher than what it was last time but uh the diamond powder and the silicon grease is uh there's a little bit more of a practical alternative you're not just like trying to get something up and running right away you're like you know what screw the system I'm making my own thermal paste I'm growing my own tomatoes in my backyard that's that's what that's who this is for yeah but it's working really bad this is like when you when you try and make tomatoes in your backyard and then you know the deers eat them and yeah and it ends up that you weren't even growing tomatoes the whole time they were like you'll actually weed yeah all right so this here is my idea I've got some rapid tap you want to use rapid tap instead of silicon grease yeah okay well if the problem also could be that our diamonds are just too big and we need smaller ones ever be too big did you imagine just having a great big diamond I also don't know if rapid tap is electrically conductive it probably is so we definitely will not want to be getting this on anywhere that's not the CPU okay I guess we're about good to go for this thing cool for your your my Lou Beacon culture this was not endorsed by my internet sources so no guarantees that it will perform as well as our homemade diamond paste I think it's gonna be better this is actually like how you would use this normally you'd like combine it with an oil and then spread it out on like a surface plate and polish something speaking of which do you want to do that after I do what I'm seeing 67 77 I think your diamond faces like it's worse than toothpaste and petroleum jelly by quite a bit yes good so don't go up by in diamonds just use your freaking toothpaste you know diamonds are kind of useless like they cost a lot and they don't really do anything except look pretty I thought this would be one functional application bye see you later see you later I think mustard is going to destroy this oh my gosh you know you put your faith in something and then it just lets you down yeah and then you go all the way down hit rock bottom and try it mustard there we go starting the test I see 47 52 57 58 we're still living better than the diamond at this point 63 so basically condiments are way better than diamond powder well okay we just had 74 but it's like this is usable this is an 18 core processor you know what this means we got to build a liquid-cooled PC just using condiments well it works so great with concrete so yeah I think we can call that basically a win for mustard all right well so it seems like anything besides diamond paste as far as last-minute things go not the worst surprisingly okay let's move on so the thing about Nutella it's the only stuff here that I kind of want to eat so that's actually not coming off how do you get mustard off any nice soap we've cooked the mustard on to the metal now we're gonna now we're in a bit of a pickle what okay well hold on hold on hold on it's wet dude it's dripping yeah exactly because we need to get it off but what about this so let's just kind of pack that around the CPU ah alex is supposed to keep me in check for this video I have find myself stress look if we wreck this board it's your fault oh that's fine I think it's all good it's only like a little bit of water that's around there now and it's basically all gone so yes this is what we thought would do better than mustard I'm not so confident anymore you know being a cameraman is hard work I understand I here you go David yeah yeah there you go how's that that was weird in a university while I was studying for exams one time I just like downed a whole bottle of Nutella much like I had it there just like with the spoon and then I'm threw up violently and I didn't need Nutella for like six or so years after that you do weird things Nutella addiction is a scourge a skirt it's no joke let's see if Nutella is really gets results that are just as nutty as it is okay so we're looking already at 52 degrees up to 60 I see 63 65 71 okay this is nothing he's good at custard so I wasn't really joking when I said we might blow up the PC with Nutella no it might be worse than diamond paste everything is terrible I guess sugar and fat content isn't everything maybe we should just put a frere roche just like right in the middle there's the point okay now actually I'm expecting this to maybe do okay because it's 40% zinc oxide is that good which is the main ingredient in some thermal pastes and I don't know why zinc oxide would be helpful to baby bums but it might be helpful to this baby bum right here all right okay 16900 not not worse than mustard mustard we're one degree off from mustard though I think that we might find out that mustard is your best bet like mustard is probably better than some budget thermal pastes so this is officially worse than mustard for like a few minutes for diaper rash cream yeah true it is diaper rash cream and it's not gonna dry out we're only six degrees up yeah six degrees isn't too bad I really did not think any of this Hey what is that you want to whoa that right there is a lapping plate this is so heavy what are we gonna do with this oh let's steal so take it right on top well what like the whole point of thermal paste is to fill in the gaps but what if there were no gaps yeah much like should be tender dates everywhere we are going to just try and do it with no thermal paste and I didn't say that quite right yeah whenever I go on dates and they don't have thermal paste man I'm just gone yeah we need just a little bit of this polishing compound polishing compound is that like diamond powder yeah diamond powder actually is a polishing compound of sorts gonna just throw some rapid tap in here Kabam do a little stir yeah now we just have to put it on lock and plate and go him very rhythmic you're essentially grinding down the surface of the heatsink block yes so that it's smooth as a baby's bottom smooth air even if you want to get the CPU uh-oh so wait you're gonna drag the CPU across that yep that's that's the plan I didn't know that adding Alex to this video would make it more off the walls Wow that's turning into just call for now all of the protective coating is just leaving so I'm going to need to step up to a lower grip but higher cutting power I have never done CPU laughing before it is a thing that lots of people do to improve performance we aren't doing this to improve performance but we're doing it to prove that protection is for the weak yeah people please don't have that bigger takeaway here I don't feel amazing about this things weren't quite as flat as I thought that they were at the beginning so we've had to take off a lot more material than I thought I'm afraid that were still quite a ways off of being flat so like you can see kind of like here we haven't even touched it with the surface plate yet and right there as well so that means that there are really big high spots there and there so kind of like around the edges here and in the center was a lot higher than like because we'll be contacting the silicon around here and then read around the die it was higher I'm a bit concerned about how much crap I got all over the CPU we run like these little resistors here I'm not sure how I'm gonna get that out on the other edge there's like it's just kind of all over the place I'm not totally sure what to do I think that Riley brought me in so that things wouldn't be dying like geez this is um I'm not totally sure how many people would recommend this but uh I certainly we and we haven't even told Linus we're doing this so hopefully the other thing is that when you use water and you like put it all over a processor the water can kind of stick around so you want to just dunk it in alcohol first and then that that was shows it away and we should be good to go definitely do that I have no doubts that this will work flawlessly good me too some time to play with a $2,000 processor hopefully you didn't break it here we go was this worth all the killing the processor we we will find in questionable for sure but wasn't worth it for the views though if we get them yeah everyone's gone we got into the BIOS yep didn't kill it excellent boo-boo so we're idling at about twenty twenty eight degrees or so which is about the same as last time so we might be able to actually beat like Nutella or diamond paste using though being ATO that's that's climbing fast right that's bombing really fast o beat the diamond paste eighty nine we still have a little bit of room still a little bit ninety it's a really similar trajectory to the diamond paste ninety-three C but that's what's that's so surprising like why was the diamond paste so bad I don't know because this is bareback and it's it's doing very similar this is nothing and it's doing very similarly so it's back down to like ninety three degrees so okay flattening it did help a bit it seems to be better than the diamonds but uh so if you want to keep under load you know you want to keep it in a nice frosty ninety four then flattening is yeah it's great good to go but I guess if you actually want to keep the cool toothpaste in petroleum jelly excellent option yeah diaper rash cream also pretty good if you have it around not horrible mustard surprising winner but also don't toast it and surprisingly diamond powder with anything not as good as we thought so I see diamond must have some sort of like secret you know secret recipe or something yeah or it's just way finer than what we had I don't know at the end of the day you know we found that some materials can actually work for a hot minute or minutes but on the whole you probably want to use thermal paste so if you're if you're really desperate you might turn to something else but for the most part just go to the store pick up some thermal paste order some thermal paste like 15 bucks on crime probably it's not bad guys something else you might want to pick up is the sound core infini Pro buy anchor the infinii Pro 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