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that feeling when a package that you ordered on eBay or whatever finally arrives you tear it open take out the packing material and it's that last part you need to build a machine that you've been waiting forever to build this is my new motherboard for the DIY pfSense router machine and hopefully the one that's going to survive drop a like on the video if you like that feeling as well and drop a dislike if you hate seeing me kill hardware course there are mi series power supplies feature premium components for great performance with very low noise check out the link in the video description to learn more Shh be respectful this is a graveyard the graveyard of motherboards so here is everything for the DIY pfsense router including my two dead s 1200 KP intel server boards let's see a third time really is a charm now in the comments under part one of this video there's a lot of people criticizing the choices that I've made in terms of the hardware for this machine with criticism number one being lettuce why didn't you just buy a cheap one new machine on ebay and use that with my response being well because that's not a very interesting video me sitting at my computer clicking the Buy and number two with people saying how overkill it is that I'm using a Xeon for a router I know we already had it I didn't I didn't run out in and buy it to make this video now with that said I have bought a couple of other boards now but that is because we are already many hours of 3d printing into creating some custom hardware in order to make this project work and could we have found something that would fit together better out of the box yes of course we could but that's not fun and we are going to start by testing this motherboard outside of the system to find out if it works at all before we introduce some of the variables that might end up killing it so we'll start with CPU installation this CPU known good I actually ran it right before I started up this build log in the first place and it was fine Ram very unlikely that's killing our motherboard it's actually on the validated list not to mention that it's kingston ram and the last time kingston produced ram that killed anything was oh i don't know never now i've got a lot of people saying that it's my cooler and back plate that are killing the board to which i would reply did you even watch like did you even watch the video the entire back plate is covered in electrical tape that is not what happened but for the haters I'm going to go and I'm going to grab a stock heatsink to test the board with first for extra safety I'm going to try a standard desktop power supply next now I don't think the problem is my power supply what I think the problem is is someone that almost nobody in the comments actually picked up on and that is this four pin connector that comes off of the one you power supply that I plugged into a fan header on the motherboard that I checked with a multimeter later and which appeared to be supplying rather than requiring power no power to my mouse and keyboard why don't we start with different RAM and see how it goes from there now it's always possible when a motherboard dies that it can take other hardware with it and I'm really hoping that it didn't kill our Xeon CPU let's try a different CPU so now I've got a 35 70 K from the CPU pile to try the weird thing is with the other chip I wasn't getting any beep codes and it was warming up it was actually getting power ok this time it's failing post new plan it's quite possible that even though they're on the same socket this motherboard doesn't actually support the 3000 series processor so I grabbed a 2600 and we're going to take this baby for a spin no power to the peripherals still I'm starting to think we've got a dead board on our hands here I can try a different stick of memory Oh oh hello so she's a little picky on the memory compatibility but we have a post this is good news now let's try our Z on chip with that Ram and see how that goes I think we may have not only killed our board but also killed our CPU and RAM so we're going to the 2600 and the full height ram even though that's not really going to work for the final build I'm going to give it a shot first I'm going to try the 35 70 K to see if our BIOS update at the very least might have given us more options for newer generation processors to work in this board so that's the end of that chapter now let's try the now let's try the original Xeon hi all right the RAM works but the CPU is dead which means I can build today and change out the CPU if I decide to do that at all remember Xeon for ECC support so we're not actually taking advantage of the ECC memory so if I decide to change out the CPU I can do that at another time all right let's let's forge ahead then we give you guys a little lesson on electronics a piece of plastic shroud over top of a speaker does not affect the functionality as I will prove right now so as you can see just like on the previous two attempts I have only removed the top of the plastic let's go powered on oh what's that oh oh cutting depth Oh cutting down the speaker doesn't do anything because why would it I could rip the speaker right off and it wouldn't do anything the speaker just wouldn't work ha how about that the number of people educating me about the dangers of a metal backplate fairly high I don't know if you guys know this but the manufacturer of the CPU heatsink is also aware of the dangers of metal back plates and the back plate actually had a non conductive coating on it so yeah that that was a thing but just in case I had damaged that non conductive coating I did there we go we've got CPU contact I did cover it in electricians tape last time around the internet was right I think the backplate heatsink mount did kill the board because we are now down to well up to three dead boards but not for the reason that they think it did because the back plates anti conductive coating was not penetrated I think the reason it died was actually from too much mounting pressure but there's good news and we are going ahead with the project because I've discovered that my z87 and Wi-Fi motherboard happens to be almost identically laid out to the Intel board that we were using before so I've grabbed a different Xeon and we are just going to build a router today damn it no matter what because our gigabit internet upgrade is already done so here we go now for my next trick I'm going to take my test bench and physically move it into the case all right power supply still works very good we are in good shape friends we are in good shape okay there's still one more thing to go wrong actually now I'm not going to use the same PCIe 1x riser that I was using before if I can get away with it because my 16x riser that I ordered on ebay actually has finally arrived so we should be able to get full 4x performance out of this card assuming that this solution works at all so now we're going to go almost all the way and boot into the OS and see if our network card is recognized let's pull this back off oh I think that was plugged in kind of funny maybe that was the issue all right that was the issue just needed to reseat that puppy and I really don't like that this keeps going load optimized defaults then boot you stop that what's your deal so it actually blue screen even without our network card in there which leads me to believe maybe it's something else my windows 7 bench drive could be just kind of flaky right now so let's try my windows 8 test drive so we're booted into the Windows 8 Drive so we're going to try our network card again if anyone from Microsoft is watching why the actual if I start typing my password immediately on that screen and I only have a single user account on the machine does it not just log me in there's always like 1/4 of a second delay and this is the first character or to fix that all of our network ports are showing up it is time to actually install it inside the machine so what I'm doing is I'm actually trying to jam enough wires through this gap that even if I accidentally press down on this tab while I close it it actually can't open because that will release my memory modules just for doing some some quick testing here put this baby up here oh we're close I can smell it now this is a cool thing about this case you can actually install your expansion card either way and I think we may be better served by doing it this way this time so if I press on these I'm gonna move nope it's finally here everything is working which leads us at last to the whole point the thing I wanted to test with this video our custom cooling shroud for our heatsink we need to test two different scenarios number one how does it perform with only these high rpm fans pulling air from the front and blowing it out the back of the chassis towards our aligned CPU heatsink and in order to give this config the best fighting chance we're actually going to try in a couple of different ways because you can see the way the chassis is meant to channel air flow is in the front / top a little bit and then out these ventilation holes at the back so we can actually try it both with the whole thing open and with everything around the CPU heatsink itself actually blocked off so that we're getting more airflow through the fins of the heatsink but let's try it completely open first so our Idol temps actually look pretty good sitting in the 35 - you know 40 degree range so for the sake of this video I think we're going to use the CPU package temperature here alright let's start a stress test and see what happens to that well 65 still climbing ah so what are our hottest core sitting at around 60 degrees with the package sitting at 63 all right well let that reach equilibrium and we'll come back in just a moment okay small update temperatures are still rising we've reached 70 degrees on the CPU package 71 now hey I think our maximum temps have settled in now per my usual approach I'm taking the highest number that it's recorded so CPU package has spiked as high as an 80 degree reading a little higher than I'd be comfortable with with that said this system is not going to be under that kind of a load 24/7 but still so we're gonna go ahead and we're gonna block off the holes that we don't want it using and see if that helps now it's actually kind of hard to tell from looking at these temperatures because they're kind of all over the place but with our blocked off holes you can actually see from the curve that shows all of the core temperatures that we're getting a little bit more empty space under that 70 degree mark right there so I would say yes we did get a few degrees improvement by using this approach this is kind of a funny story I've got the the architect of the fan shroud that we'll be installing for our second test and he was about to explain to me why one of the pieces of the shroud has like this janky thing cut in it so when I was modeling it originally I forgot that there's is it I think it's this thing yeah yeah this thing is right in the way so oh look it perfectly fits now okay so we actually had to change the motherboard yeah I know so now my all my plans are wrecked all the original measurements like is it significantly different no okay so now that you move that where it belongs this shroud should fit very nice oh look at how perfect that is it's so perfect and I gave this buffer room here I didn't make it as long as it needs to be because it can overlap a little bit your modesty is a really amazing yeah oh just just a flex room for it to be able to go in that's that's correct okay okay no no I want to do it I want it alright alright note that the design still allows these three fans to cool the network card although we did not determine that we needed a shroud for that that little that thing is in the way I didn't model that so it's uh oh well it's supposed to be flush on the top it's not the way I designed it but yeah I mean it it's supposed to be flush I mean it's mostly flush most of the airflow is going to make it to the heatsink I think which is okay because it won't kill the system to have a little bit of airflow over here looks cool doesn't it alright let's close it up and find out if our maniac scheme here worked so for those wondering we actually 3d printed this sucker on the ultime kerttu that we reviewed in the video that you can check out right over here you there you have it folks absolutely fantastic by using our 3d printed Shroud to direct more airflow towards our passive heatsink we were able to drop our CPU temperatures by somewhere in the neighborhood of about 10 degrees meaning that even under full load I would be extremely comfortable running this system all the time it took a long time for us to get here but our router is finally ready to load up pfsense and deploy in the server room with our new gigabit connection whoo oh hi I didn't see you there you 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