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Disappointed in AMD - WAN Show Dec. 8 2017

2017-12-08
life you can tell what the ball oh boy we um are late and for that we are sorry only by 19 minutes need 981 at 9:00 depending on how you count it we don't technically have a new start time five o'clock but I don't know if we ever officially announced that Colton changed it because we were never on time anyway the point is this time we were learning while I was learning Luke was showing me a different streaming software yeah so this would be the first win show streamed on OBS yeah not necessarily because we think OBS is unequivocably better than xsplit no which it isn't but because xsplit has had an utterly game-breaking bugs for us for the last couple of weeks that has made it take about half an hour at a forty-five minutes of extra time after the show to D corrupt if I the corrupted video output and then upload it to YouTube so it's been kind of a pain in the arse which has mostly resulted in us like downloading the vaad off of twitch so that we can mess with it which takes a while because it's an hour plus long stream sometimes twitch takes a while to process that then you have to down which all makes sense which sense and is fine it's just a pain in the butt and we don't want to do that anymore so yeah the LAN show to be very clear there's pros and cons with both on OBS what else do we have this week oh yeah rate the news so Nvidia announced the Titan V and you can have one for the value price of only three thousand dollars we'll talk about what exactly you get for your money AMD and Qualcomm join forces for always connected pcs else we got nice hash was breached 64 million dollars of Bitcoin was stolen that valuation is going to constantly change so about 4,700 coins and this is in rapid-fire Ashley but damn AMD silently lowers Radeon rx 560 specs wah-wah start with the interesting news and with the super bad news alright hold on I'm updating I'm updating that nice hash number was 4700 coins stolen right so that is now seventy six point six million because Bitcoin has been like whoa lately it does that alright let's roll that intro ready that work like I knew it like that you like yeah you let you like those indicators maybe show me your indicators I almost made a very specific way too far joke but no it's good let's move on Titan V oh yeah let's talk about the Titan V V as compare we just you know what I've got a given video a lot of credit here for doing the right thing with this graphics card now this was supposed to buy max okay this is posted by max settings on the forum and hold on a second and the original article here is from a non tech I think it's kind of neat that max settings shared a post about $3,000 graphics card so Nvidia did the right thing here rather than confuse consumers by calling their product iPhone X but then 10 Nvidia called it Titan V instead of like Titan 5 which incidentally would it isn't the fifth Titan hold on a second now you got the Titan you got the Titan black it's gonna depend you've got the Titan X you've got the Titan XP and the XP PC and the X P P so no technically it is the six Titan now if they hadn't screwed up and had both a Titan XP which was you know what if you count what it actually says on the shroud yeah there you yes cuz the Titan didn't have the black filled in on the Titan word the Titan black did but it was the same same silver shroud then weight the Titan you know hey which one had the actual black shroud hold on we might be missing one here kepler maxwell pass gal Titan Titan yeah what was a Titan loves a Titan black boy which one actually got ya able to see a picture though which one actually got like a black shroud no so it was after it was the Titan X that got a black shroud yes okay okay cool so if we nor the one that didn't get a pee on the end of it the Titan acts Pascal which I basically did ignore so I think I could I can stick with that did we make a video for that or do we just rant about our way I don't think we did yeah I don't think so if we agree that only graphics cards that we do a review video of count then this is the fifth Titan okay okay that only we do it the ordered one what a way to yeah I heard yeah Wow I so I reached out to Nvidia yo are you guys providing review samples of this thing and they said I'm not surprised at all I'm not even remotely they said literally nothing that's the joke um and so I'm kind of sitting here going well okay I'm not gonna I'm not gonna wait around and find out what Titan Z I don't count the Titans either we didn't review it okay this is very convenient definition where if I don't decide that something counts it doesn't count this is a fun way to live the world live the world also it's live my life it also wasn't a different GPU perceive the world interpret the world yeah that's true is it was two GPUs yeah there see it mind you Titan black isn't the difference and it's not even that much blacker it's just black text oh yeah minor details um okay so right what do we have to say about the Titan V last night I love that the place they announced it was the NIP sconce conference because you know this is a pretty hot announcement you know anyway so they announced the Titan vide has a golden shroud now which is just Oh beautiful perfect why pick another color thank you you know it was like a few generations ago that I su stood their golden stuff so you can take a few generations old bored pair it with your new $3,000 graphics card that was like 67 no it's been more reason than that no no no a soos hold on a second a soos gold board we're making fun of this stuff on the couch at the old house you're drunk no no you're drunk yeah but they were old boards by then okay hold on here here's one of their stupid gold boards was it okay z87 all right all right all right okay z87 still that's how old is that no it's perfect $3,000 grafts card that board boom put it together best combination I mean what is it is this like isn't everything kind of going gold these days like is this just because of the iPhone do I have Apple to blame for this a graphic let everybody else the entire rest of the computer industry is like okay fine we give up everything's gonna be grayscale so black gray or white yeah and we'll put RGB lighting on so everything matches everything else maybe that's why actually because a very minor amount I don't like gold but a very adamantly gold jewelry I don't like whatever but a very minor amount of gold accent on something that's like blacked out looks pretty sharp a ginormous graphics card though is not like a small gold actually go with the monochrome computer which is like popular these days and then have your black and gold Titan yeah what are we actually going to see is there a picture of the backplate ah no because you only really see this side in the backplate unless you're going with like one of those vertical mount systems which was like I'm gonna assume that is black I'm gonna assume it's black this thing looks so I'm probably gonna be just a minor amount of accenting of gold on the side that you're actually having I'm gonna have to redo my how to paint your graphics card tutorial with the new Titan shroud because I can't imagine anyone you should be with it like real silver paint nothing I'm sure that's the thing sounds like poisonous or something I don't know probably it's alright so anyway what else can we say about this thing or paint available for purchase today three grand so that's almost four thousand Canadian rupees which sucks but like realistically soin videos policy on cards that are not intended for gamers is that they don't generally seed them to gaming press but gaming press wants to know how this thing performs for games and gamers want to know how this thing performs in games so the way that we see it we're kind of taking one for the team here we absolutely have to get one and run some games on it and see how it goes from there cuz the specs on this thing are ridiculous this is the same GPU as the Tesla V 100 which is apparently a $10,000 graphics so really we should all stop complaining because you're giving a $7,000 discount beautiful no no no no complaints here give me four this is targeted at machine learning scientists who want to simply install the card in their desktop PCs and not rely on a special server or storage or networking so it keeps the Titan branding as opposed to geforce titan and it'll have massive memory bandwidth yes it's using HP m2 memory 12 gigs freakin gigs of it and it has whistles HBM 2 to be clear a hundred and ten it says dl in here but I'm sure that means dual precision teraflops so that's 9 times Oh deep learning teraflops sorry that's 9 times the deep learning computing horse power of its predecessor 1450 5 megahertz boost clock this is a massive 815 millimeter squared I believe this was the largest of all time like single monolithic die I don't remember if it actually was but it is it is very close a tsm's did I already say 5120 CUDA cores holy crap so one side for Titan vs Li for compensator ah no no so that's really interesting guess Lionel um so so this is so the previous Titan XP was 38 40 CUDA course so this is a new architecture this is Volta and it has many many more CUDA cores and it has envy link connectors at the top but this was actually a developing story right as we were starting the LAN show there's a thread over on the Linus tech tips forum where people are talking about this apparently NVIDIA has come out and said it not only does not support us Ally because it doesn't have SLI fingers yeah it does not support Indy link so the fingers are there but Envy link is I guess considered to be a data center feature and not something that you would need in a single system so Nvidia is coming right out and making dual card configurations for gaming and then also for to be clear it doesn't matter how they market this people are going to use it for gaming yeah so now dual card configurations will still work for some workloads like something like SolidWorks doesn't require an v link or an SLI connector you can just have more GPUs in and it'll just you use more compute but where the cards need to communicate with each other not having NV link will be a disadvantage and for gaming they're just like nope you know last generation on generations ago we took away three-way and four-way on this stuff now we're taking away two-way this is just one card persistent boob done ha vapor chamber cooler 16 power phases 250 watt TDP and Wow it gets the GV 100's full unrestricted FP 64 compute and tensor core performance and the only real thing that differentiates it from Tesla is memory capacity memory bandwidth and the lack of nd link functionality it uses the standard geforce driver stack freaking cool huh okay well I'm excited to see how this goes interviewer writes there is no gaming information at all yeah we're on the Titan V page this is not like what in videos done in the past year they've gone like Titan Titan Z was a perfect example of this where they're like this thing is was it that one three grand - I think so Titan Z was really like this thing is thousands of dollars because it's a professional product not for gamers and they need to go on legree grand yeah retailer websites you go on NCIX or Newegg or whatever and there'd be banner ads using like nvidia assets that are like titan z the ultimate gaming performance yes like okay is it or is it not well this one there is absolutely nothing in there that's cool because it's cool because if they want this to be the non gaming thing that they keep on saying that they are original Titan was supposed to be yeah so this is just kind of coming back to its roots a little bit yeah cuz it's strayed pretty hard um all right AMD and Qualcomm this was posted on the forum by username the linus portal i don't know what a linus portal is i'm gonna try not to be weirded out by it I'm sure it's I'm sure it might not be your portal yeah yeah different would be a different linus like it's confusing anyway the original post here was from Engadget Boop aimed um Qualcomm join forces to power higher end connected pcs so they're going up against Intel's isom compatible systems so in a nutshell they're teaming up to make all these connected pcs on AMD's rise in mobile platform using Snapdragon LTE modems to enable gigabit connection speeds okay so apparently the pair of the processor and this like always connected chip will make it so that you can play something like League of Legends anywhere without Wi-Fi yeah okay I mean this is actually something we're talking about like just last week on the way show yeah yeah I mean more connectivity for these devices that now I mean a device like the LG Graham the last generation one not the one with the 8th gen processor that one's battery life is not as much but something like a last gen LG Graham is getting 9 plus hours in like a battery life test and in real usage can get well over that like sometimes 10 even 12 hours so having a device like that just be able to be connected literally all the time is obviously desirable so and you could theoretically have a laptop that was more performance it wasn't the performance of the laptop that was hampering the game you could play it's just this chip in particular that we're talking about so you could get a higher-end laptop that also has this Snapdragon x16 LTE modem and would be able to game other things just on that powerful system probably gonna be plugged in so we have our first all AMD laptop like not of all time like I'd probably at some point like eight years ago of moderner like - tech tips covered one like I don't remember it there's a long time ago Asus sent us over a gaming laptop that's got pull air a Polaris GPU and a rise in CPU so we're gonna be checking that out pretty soon cool AMD is finally relevant in laptops again or maybe they're not I don't know we haven't tested it yet but they're are they got design wins and that's a lot more than they could say over the last couple of years oh boy so I lost about three hundred dollars okay okay I'll say that the original article here is from Reuters which I will confess I did not know how this was pronounced until like less than a year ago I thought it was like Reuters goods yeah and like whenever I heard people say Reuters like just kind of you know on the periphery I thought they were talking about like steroids close attention that's funny I don't think I've ever attempted to pronounce it like with no pre-knowledge yeah I heard the name before I read the name yeah well you know what I've had enough of your I've had enough of your comments twitch chat which I don't even have to look at the twitch chat to know that I'm gay like skinned alive over there yeah so nice hash which this puts me in a bit of an awkward position because we didn't go as far as to recommend it Oh in our recent video part 1 of our Bitcoin / cryptocurrency mining exploration but we did show it we did talk about what the service does and it was cool and we were using it yeah which means that when they got hacked earlier this week we lost about 300 bucks but I'm not gonna complain because the total amount of money lost is tens of millions of dollars the headline is 64 million because that's based on what the value was right around the time that this news broke but it went up last night was huge I believe was the last night or the night before um it was yesterday morning or like yesterday yesterday your early morning I think it spiked up to like 1800 or something like that it was crazy do you mean early morning isn't like 2:00 in the morning um well I don't know I was at a shoot and it was like 11 a.m. my time 10:00 a.m. my time okay so it was like whenever it was a very recent that it spiked up and the value of this down yeah and even now it's like Tamale and more ya bout than it was when it first happened so this isn't the first time this has happened there's been so in this one put in particular there's about 4,700 coins stolen bitcoins stolen in in all there's been nine hundred and eighty thousand bitcoins that have been stolen from exchanges alone that total is worth more than fifteen billion dollars at current exchange rates and that is when they calculated it before so it's actually worth more now so here's the thing that we should probably do because there's over eight so there's been at least three dozen of these thefts on digital currency exchanges since 2011 including the one that led to the collapse of Mount GOx which was the largest Bitcoin exchange at the time so what I'm kind of thinking is everyone who wants to get into Bitcoin seems to figure out how to buy it or how to mine it and then I feel like it's really easy to get lazy about the other stuff you want to get into like cold storage how to store it how to dump it because the literally the only way to be 100% certain that your Bitcoin will not be vulnerable to a hack is to store it completely offline whether that's a hardware wallet yeah or whether that's a cold computer but by that I mean like a computer that's not on a network yeah so some people will even go as far as to store handwritten notes in safety deposit boxes in traditional banks and I think that's really something that is worth discussing because a lot of people are going into this whole bitcoin slash altcoin cryptocurrency thing thinking that once they Google a little bit and they find you know who the reputable exchanges are or the reputable wallets are once they find that they've got the equivalent of a banks type of security and to be clear if banks are not perfect either by the way but in traditional finance usually if a bank gets heisted depends depends how much money is in the account for example yeah I don't know all the details I just know I've had forever ago my like debit card got ripped off yeah and a few thousand dollars where the transactions went through it and I got my money back pretty quick so that is heavily dependent on your account you're a financial institution you use a credit union which back then may have actually been an advantage but maybe no longer is oh we could talk about it more offline anyway the point is people Google around they find something that looks for putable yeah you know everyone on reddit up voted or whatever else and then they kind of go okay yeah my money is safe there but in truth there is so much more to it and like as much fun as it is to buy some Bitcoin at 70 70 150 is I think what I got in at a little while ago and I I had I had abstained for the longest time and finally I was like you know what forget it I'm just gonna I'm gonna buy some as much as much fun as it is to look at that and go whoo I doubled my money over the last three weeks which I did and I'm feeling pretty good about it unless you actually know how to get it out and convert it into a fiat currency right now with the volatility of Bitcoin and for that matter real currency in general people gonna be pissed that we're saying this but like even just looking at charts and stuff it is so it's not even just necessarily fall a tile because volatile means that it dies right no it means it varies okay yeah so it is extremely freaking valen it's extremely volatile and to me currency is not currency unless it can be exchanged for goods and services and right now you cannot buy a car with bitcoins at the local dealer that's right yeah there's gonna be like some person yeah some dealerships somewhere I don't care that is not the point the point is that if you wanted it let's say let's say I bought $1,000 of Bitcoin and it went up 10x and all of a sudden I had $10,000 I wanted to go to like Joe's used auto auto lot or whatever and I was like yo I invested $1,000 in Bitcoin I'm gonna buy a car I cannot do that unless I cash out today so that's what I mean when I say as much fun as it is to have this money until you can actually exchange it for goods and services it's just paper and I kind of slurred my words there which was funny because I kind of said surfaces you could buy surfaces if you whatever you're into cars surfaces razor blades I don't care so I mean is that something that we should be starting to maybe do like a maybe make part of that multi-part Bitcoin series I think so looking into videos online about this kind of yeah one of the least documented processes is wallets and storage of your coins and one of the most important parts about it is wallets and storage of your coins and when this nice hash thing and people weren't saying cuz you're talking about the Bitcoin community right so people weren't coming at it from the angle you were yeah it is like you need to bring it into fiat currencies people were going at it from the angle if you need to secure your Bitcoin people don't understand okay loll I'm a duckie is paypal currency then or not yes because it's in a real currency it's just stored with PayPal Bitcoin is a real currency and by real I mean fiat currency I mean a recognized currency so yeah to be clear on the volatile thing I looked it up it does have a negative connotation sure it can have whatever connotation it wants but that doesn't change that it's a very volatile but it is but it's going up so volatiles like apparently not entirely both how specifically a negative thing okay so Radek in a bad way which it is it can it has mostly been erratic in a good way yes when it's not except when it's not which does happen and you might get screwed on a trade because I'm like oh ho but like so far holding has been a very good strategy like someone bought real estate with it recently right we actually specifically said that yes someone somewhere is taking it but there's coffee shops that take it there's there are sites that take it we're looking into trying to take it for floatplane subscriptions it's a thing there's there's certain areas there's a cruise that you go on that you can go on that you pay for with Bitcoin and I think all the transactions while you're on the cruise are done in Bitcoin there's some stuff but it would be it's not it's not the norm is what we're trying to say yeah so essentially taking it out of Bitcoin putting into USD is a generally safer way to deal with it but your USD you can still get stolen everything can still get stolen that's kind of an important thing to understand but stuff like cold wallets holding your storage and offline computers the effort types of wallets using Hardware while it's all this kind of stuff isn't as well-documented as most other things in the Bitcoin world and when something like this nice hash thing happens all the smug commenters are going you will you can't have it in a hardware wallet or an offline wallet like most people responding or like what is that how do you do that yeah and there there there is some resources on it but not a ton yeah yeah well let's uh we'll have a look at that we'll figure out a plan I think part two is gonna be the more optimized mining machine okay so that's mostly done we actually would have had the motherboard today but it got sent to North Carolina for some reason yeah long story okay um or Connecticut I don't know it was a us something and it had a C in it so okay it was a city or a state and it had a C at the beginning was in California I know that much anyway so so we would have had a ceases nineteen GPU board even though we're not actually gonna be using all nineteen slots so the reason for that get this is in order to run ninety why well Bitcoin what do you think no I but but even for Bitcoin why would you get that board because then you don't have to have more boards and more RAM sticks and more CPUs how expensive is that board two hundred bucks hmm yeah yeah so you save you because I mean that the cheapest the cheapest CPU is like forty bucks from Intel anyway but are you putting them all next to each other no the way that it works is you use use extenders yeah yeah so the slots are it's it's like this thing's hilarious I'll bring it up I haven't the b250 mining expert it's literally cut okay I thought you were just buying some like crazy server board not like dude this is like this is all wall yeah look at this thing is ridiculous there's all the slots it's like that's amazing so anyway the funny thing about it is that in order to actually use all nineteen six of them have to be Nvidia sgp 1:06 based mining specific card okay exactly six I think like the manual for this thing is HIGHlarious because check out these oh so these power like different slots and there's like a whole diagram and stuff and then there's like this diagram for like what types of cards you can install in what ratios in what slots in order to actually populate all 19 of them so these guys have to come up the same power supply as this one in case you were wondering and don't quote me on that I looked at the manual a couple hours ago actually there's two - RAM slots - RAM slots I'm even surprised there's four SATA ports ah yeah yeah what would you need that for it I would have expected he's got a USB 3 header - or one yeah yeah so so yeah so that's gonna be part 2 part 3 we're gonna take a look at a sick miners and then maybe part four will start to get into storage how to sell maybe like a part 5 it would be cool to take a look at some of the tools that people are using like crack into not just like Google not not just like googling what's the USD to Bitcoin conversion but like cracking has been terrible but yeah okay but some of there's a lot of different tools that PD are using taking a look at a handful of them and kind of going okay well here's some of the advantages and drawbacks of each of them yeah yeah I mean I think I think it would be something that would be very beneficial to the community at large like Krakens charts are super nice and really rapidly updated yeah but which is well half the time the site doesn't work well that's a problem which is 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they're just making jokes about it Oh excellent good I'm never sure if I'm gonna make people mad when I'm like what cuz here's the thing is like the culture today is one of not being able to say things that are true sometimes and like I'd like to think that most gamers like back when I was going to Land's and you're there for like sometimes 48 hours at a time nobody leaves so you clearly haven't showered in two days and we've been sitting at your computer and here's the thing when you're gaming when competitively gaming the odds of you sweating in a stinky way are actually higher than if you were working out because stress sweat stinks more than exercise sweat so you're sitting there gaming you're like stressed out for two days you're probably gonna smell and I mean I'm not some people forget there ll say forget some people are bound to forget their deodorant that they definitely do own so but you never know like sometimes Mambo people are gonna get upset about these things and it's just like you know you never know what you can what you can actually say okay I mean this for a quick second alright this is where I don't know because we are in a little bit of like outrage II kind of culture yeah yeah sure but then we're also getting older yeah so is this like the old people say offensive things kind of situation like are we becoming the racist grandpa exactly except about like people who smell yeah like totally different category of stuff yeah but is that bar lighten up are people who smell becoming a subculture that you can't discriminate against TV because here's the thing all sniffs are equal I'm not gonna name any names but we had a situation at Lynas media group where I had to speak to an employee about his or her hygiene and I'm really not gonna name any names I'm not gonna give any hints as me no wasn't it oh I thought it was me oh no that was pajamas yeah it was a separate issue that was professionalism / I've probably given you crap about being sweaty at some time or another but yeah but no I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say who it was no I don't even know who this is okay no because that's because it's private well you did a good job yeah thank you um so I actually did have to speak to an employee about hygiene at one point and I really wasn't sure how to do it because is that discriminatory it's a difficult yeah because it's a difficult thing work they weren't showing up like in an in an indecent garb like they weren't showing up in an in a thong and no pants like something that's like clearly you know sexually inappropriate how's that yeah and and so I can I can tell you my solution in a way that will make it very difficult for you to track down who it would have been okay but at some point in our process of doing annual reviews I added a field about professionalism and about maintaining appropriate personal hygiene for the sake of the comfort in the workplace of your colleagues because I dunno about that field because I've been in there because I wore pajamas to work that was the professionalism oh yeah yeah yeah and so out of the way yes shorts yeah the short side I've never cared about the shorts have never bothered me it was it was when you would literally like roll out of bed go to work and be like wearing a shirt that's like stained and like pj pants that are ripped to hell like to the point where yeah to the point where it was a little indecent yeah every single pair of pajamas that I have as a hole in the crotch so anyone why new pajamas so so these are things that I've actually had to worry about like am I being the the the the the anti deodorant issed you know grandpa yeah it's like you shouldn't smell bad who knows that's it like I'm running into these situations that is a cultural thing like there's people who are anti anything that's unnatural shaving deodorant that kind of thing and you know maybe I'm crossing a you know a personal boundary by being like yo you smell in a manner that is my discomfort level is about here right now you know yeah I have no I have no idea so there you go anyways next sponsor they're like no this is irrelevant old people don't care about bad smell which is you know what no I'm not gonna get into it because maybe some of the best like groomed people that I know and I think it gets to a certain point where it becomes it becomes it's not that they don't care I think well okay some of them probably don't care like some people okay so there's two things there's actually a number of factors here I think some people get old and give zero FS about anything yeah and they're just like Yolo also I'm close to the end of it so I'm just not gonna stress about this stuff other people get to the point where they can't really care for themselves properly and like that makes them unhappy actually or it would be extremely tedious to do so so Steve Jobs apparently didn't shower I do know that that is a thing like not showering and letting your body's natural 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browser yeah yeah so that seems like a pretty good one I have for I think not a crazy man all right got a couple more topics here there's a leaked Intel sorry for point at some point yes there is a leaked Intel roadmap that's on wucf tech so we take it with a grain of salt this was posted on the forum by none lock 21 and apparently until cascade Lake X is confirmed for a TD T it'll be arriving on X 299 /lg a 20 66 in late 28 team so none of this is surprising at all because that's what Intel does every generation they want you chipset with CPUs then they do a CPU refresh then you get a new chipset then you get nuts okay um also this is groundbreaking news coffee like X s s not X will apparently get dual-core processors and there'll be more processor updates in 2018 along with Z 390 and B 360 chipsets blah blah blah blah blah blah no mention of eight core processors so those have been rumored and Gemini Lake goes in n series processors features ten watt TDP and four slash two core variants so these are 14 nanometer gold montt cores and those are apparently coming in the 52nd week of 2018 so end of next year ok neat now let's talk about stuff that's coming a little bit sooner this display post posted by aluminium tech on the forum and the original article here is from Qualcomm comm they've got a new CPU cutting watt wall the 845 mobile platform um yeah your next phone your next phone will have one of these unless you buy a phone right now yeah and then we're like Oh jeepers one or an iPhone and it will be a little bit better um how much better you say 25 to 35 percent faster than current Snapdragon 835 it can apparently record 480 FPS video at 720p or 240 FPS at 1080 that's pretty cool mind you like most phones absolutely kill their image quality yeah when you're recording at high frame rates so even though it is 1920 pixels by 1080 pixels it looks blocky and like trash yeah so yeah although the 25 to 30% faster thing is gonna be interesting to check out yeah this is the first qualcomm SOC to have a secure processing unit so this is a new subsystem to protect data like your fingerprints iris mobile payments sim and more that's interesting but it's probably like a super cracked already why would it be if it stores everything locally yeah but there's get their name right now American government thing oh I have to FCC in my head that's obviously not it yeah and I say NSA has NSA tools or whatever those of leaked repeatedly and considering how delayed this is compared to apples I wouldn't be surprised if it was like developed in cohorts with them I know it's like tinfoil Hattie but these things keep coming true so I don't know and those NSA tools keep leaking so like random pirate groups keep getting access to them and that it's super not secure so I don't know I wouldn't absolutely trust it but hey cool uh in other news this was originally posted on a non tech comm AMD has apparently silently lowered the spec of their rx 560 yeah to basically a previous generation spec update an AMD statement given to our sister site Tom's Hardware confirms the two rx 560 variants and AMD also noted that AIB partners so like sapphire Emma sighs whose etc would be responsible for communicating a given rx 560 models specifications Wow so you can either get 14 compute units or 16 compute units buying an Rx 560 this is trash and AMD should feel terrible and they should not do this so with an Rx 560 let's go with the 14 compute unit model you can get 14 C use and 896 espies now comparing to an Rx 460 which has 14 C use and 896 SPS what are the big reasons why people are pissed off is because it's essentially a 460 like if you want to sell slightly disabled 5 6 with less room why don't you just sell for 60s how complicated is that yeah Wow it's Polaris 11 like honestly it's the last time that like this is not the first time for AMD I don't know if you know this but I still remember one of the most pissed off that I have ever been about a technology purchase was when I bought a Sapphire Radeon 9600 non-pro and this was back like almost 15 years ago like back when that was a somewhat respectable card but nearing the end of its lifecycle so it was like a it was like a value gaming card so I already had my own gaming rig but I was upgrading my parents computer so that my siblings could play like Sims or whatever and what happened was sapphire called the card Radeon I ended up on the phone for literally hours with both sapphire and AMD support over this when I found out that this 9600 and in this case it was not marked in any way on the box that this 9600 was different from a normal 9600 when this 9600 had I forget what the difference was I think it had a narrower memory bus or something like that like it had a like a 64 versus a 128-bit bus or something along those lines and there were no specs on line other than the specific product page for this sapphire card which was like hard to find on their site that made it clear that it was not a normal 9600 I thought we were past this I don't really get why tech companies feel the need to rebadge especially in this manner when they already had a product that they could have just sold as this now there are some differences the new one compared to the 460 can go down to a lower TDP so as low as 60 watts versus approximately 75 watts and it's available with just two gigs of ram instead of just being a four gig part but I feel like it would have been a lot less misleading to just call this a two gig 460 and just make it available especially because like in their update statement to be clear they said we're working with all we're taking immediate steps to remedy to this we're working with all Adam board and channel partners to make sure product descriptions and names clarify the Cu count so the gamers consumers know exactly what they're buying that's not going to work we apologize for the confusion this may have caused that was intentional that's BS the reason why it's not gonna work is the vast majority of consumers don't know what a freaking Cu is yeah of course not we're looking at a model number our model names all they had to do and they've even done stuff like this in the past all they had to do if they were gonna do a cut-down one is call it le or Excel or something along those lines like there's plenty of precedent that already exists for how to do this properly and they just decided not to this is really bad for AMD because AMD was very much in the for the people yeah they're supposed to be like you know the good guy underdog like that's their brand image that ain't reject the last like major controversy that I know of on what this scale should be but this doesn't seem to be blowing up as much probably because not an insane amount of people are buying 5 60s and a lot more people had purchased nine 70s was the RAM issue on nine seventies that was the last big time that it was like this is essentially being lied about yeah all right I'm good man sneekybeeky stuff not cool what else we got here okay um oh yeah sure why not Oh steam no longer accepts Bitcoin oh I actually didn't even know that they accepted Bitcoin as payment didn't he the original poster here was vegetable stew we'll go ahead and pull up okay so first of all anyone who was giving me crap about using the word volatile to describe Bitcoin you can go ahead and give valve a bunch of crap for it too because there's all the instances of volatile or volatility in the first three paragraphs of their statement on why they are no longer I don't think it's completely invalid to use it's just gonna trigger some people yeah so yeah there you go so go ahead and get triggered by valve two I actually yeah I had no idea that they didn't accept it so when they first added Bitcoin as a method of payment transaction fees were as low as 20 cents now they've crept up as high as $20 per transaction these fees are passed on to the consumer and they result in unreasonably high cost for games also the value of Bitcoin is only guaranteed for a certain period of time so if the transaction doesn't complete within that window the amount of Bitcoin needed to cover the transaction can change well the normal solution is either to refund the original payment or the user or ask the user to transfer additional funds but both in both of these cases the users hit with the transaction fee again not to mention that this is like a customer service overhead nightmare for any retailer or a tailor they've said they'll reevaluate it at a later date and I don't blame them at all with all of that said are we planning to support Bitcoin on floatplane we want to and what are the obstacles right now you can if you can talk about it so okay the main obstacles right now to be completely honest is everything else essentially is a higher priority the site's not up payments for the current payment system the forum is atrocious and we need payments for credit card to work and we need the new implementation for payments for PayPal which will be Braintree to work and I want essentially I want the MVP of the site to be up I want able to be using the proper domain not going through the forum I want all that other kind of stuff done and then we'll look into supporting Bitcoin but there is going to be more issues once we start doing that how do we deal with fraud okay I literally don't know like on Bitcoin you mean yeah right I have no clue yeah that's fine like what if there's fraudulent transactions there's no I can't go contact someone's bank contacting the it's their wallet like I can't do anything like that I'm not entirely sure how refunds work I think we would be on the hook for the transaction fee for refunds right we're with most services you've got a refund of the transaction fee yeah and if that's if it's a $20 transaction for you that could drive us under pretty fast if yeah like there is a lot of potential issues we're gonna look into it I haven't looked into any of those issues I don't know so yeah maybe I don't know it's just not very high on the priority tier we just need to know can I do this no can I try I would really prefer not then literally working on it right now is it worth a shot come on let's try it you only live once whoa what's bad okay I even want to put a giant disclaimer here last time a whole bunch of people signed up for floatplane on the forum and paid for their access and then we're very upset when they couldn't log in to this site to access it yes just like last time this is not the site that is working right now at all to access floatplane it's the front page of the forum and then if you are subscribed it is at the top of the forum there's a floatplane section yeah I'm not logged in yet right now that that's normally how you access it yeah but you know I mean hey come on you only live only live once right baby oh that's weird I don't I didn't did whoo oh when did that happen can you use your thing no why I don't know can i that things being used by swedish bros for development oh okay so now what i can make you one dang it David you why are you what is this what are you doing well I know he's your counter usually do that and then just cover it with the camera right no I usually use the other one oh yeah okay well do it do a news topic okay or we can switch and I can set up a different account that you can use no it's fine just uh just do a news topic in the meantime it's not in the doc but you might even be able to talk about this while you're covering that and Nick has a link for me apparently Apple is acquiring the music recognition app Shazam interesting I actually did already read about this apparently it's some amount less than a billion dollars so that's good if you're Apple I guess cuz I don't know if I would pay a billion dollars for Shazam but I mean I don't know if this is reactionary or if this is something that they already had planned but this definitely helps Apple address Google's implementation on the pixel on the pixel to rather anywhere where the device is always listening to music around you as creepy as that is and will just display passively on the screen of your phone what what song is playing so other than helping Siri better recognize songs I don't really know what the benefit of this is for Apple but it goes to show you that they are they are sure willing to spend a lot of money to have it be slightly easier to find out what song and also I guess you could have just used Shazam but not do that for a billion dollars that's less than a billion dollars yeah so yeah okay why are you why are you trying to show that my blog wanna I wanted to I wanted to try it I was gonna link it to the other one and then I was gonna like go through and I was gonna you know but yeah there's nothing to use right now oh good like the videos aren't there yet no oh okay I thought they were no okay so we're making that part just work for live streaming oh no oh right live-streaming is gonna be a thing soon yeah yeah alright so right now on floatplane we've got the porsche designs making make sure that you're covering up we've got the porsche design book 1c look I'm driving a laptop oh I actually didn't put that together right away oh oh my goodness we've got our review of the arrow 15 X this is a thin and light with a gtx 1070 Wow it's pretty impressive and they managed to do it with the touchpad in not a stupid location does it can we can we get a little spoiler does it throttle um it's really good okay yeah it's like really impressive we finally yeah pretty much every laptop throttles under combined load though yeah so we finally released a video on Vega frontier edition the teaser for this is amazing yeah this is this was a freaking saga Brandon's smartphone camera showdown which we promised in the next week or two after whatever video I was recording when I was like yo Brandon why don't you do your the smartphone camera showdown is finally up on floatplane so he compares the iPhone 8 plus with the no date with the V 30 with the pixel to excel so we don't have the iPhone 10 in there but my understanding is a is that it is a pretty similar camera to the iPhone 8 plus so I'm not too worried about it we've got the eve V the crowd-sourced surface competitor and then I don't think this handy tech has made it onto YouTube yet either handy tech old is new again so we've actually got a lot of stuff on there including a couple tech quickies there's overclocking void your warranty for example so if you cannot wait to find out then you can sign up for floatplane where you'll get one week ish of early access one week ish it's ish don't worry about it yeah all right honestly I don't know what else we got Oh Nintendo games are coming to the Nvidia shield in China yes no way / weird I actually did miss this yeah I are game console still no no yeah they're not outlawed so what what is that Nvidia and Nintendo's partnership with the switch something something yeah so Nvidia provided the hardware something something so they teamed up in China today Nvidia shield is getting Nintendo games what so you can play new super super mario brothers we Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess and punch-out what yeah apparent all of them have been remastered in 1080p for the shield this is from SlashGear by the way what I don't know where this Mario Galaxy is coming why can't I get this why is it only in China oh I hate you so much Nintendo every time you seem like you're getting cool you're actually not cool and you're just like a little bit cool oh man oh this which is not available in China yeah there you go that sucks alright well I'm pretty much I'm pretty much done thank you for tuning into the wine show we'll see you guys again next week same bat-time same bat-channel bye it starts so it'll give you a warning you
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