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EA's Lootbox Gambling in Battlefront 2 - WAN Show November 17, 2017

2017-11-18
we're already live where it's already done Thank You Colton I appreciate the help it was great it was great we have awesome news this week I'm sure you guys know of at least some of it there's been the crazy battlefield controversy going on why do I keep something a battlefield the crazy battlefront controversy going on with the like most downloaded comment of all time on reddit and all this other stuff we are of course going to talk about that but there's also some other crazy things new too like the Firefox hardware survey has some interesting nuggets of information for us so we're gonna analyze later on and face ID hacked in the first week BAM suck at Apple oh oh this is not good for anybody except the people who did it I guess yeah and if you're watching last night Tesla unveiled finally their semi truck and a surprise the second iteration of their roadster yeah their original vehicle yeah new fastest car ever fastest production car of all time super epic intro it's there we go almost the Wanko Carl so tag thank you a one-in-three chance no taxi box system enter to win heck yeah Mac well then 20% off I fix it protect tool kit why not you where we go BAM we're back and just right into it with the battlefront news I think that's deviously actually I'm gonna cut in slightly before this shameless self-promotion big charity stream happening tomorrow 24 hours on my twitch channel switch ITV slash Luke underscore life are going at least 24 hours I think it's supposed to be like 27 hours doing a whole bunch of different games one game per hour iterating every year buh buh blah blah blah show I mean dude help support extra life it's gonna be awesome okay bye anyways next or be mean or just enjoy your day in some other way um Battlefront crazy stuff happening there's a post on reddit we're gonna show it here right now the reddit post was talking about how it takes 40 hours to unlock a hero they talk about a bunch of different stuff the post has been updated a few times actually been very well taken care of by the hotter potato this has been nuts if you've been on the internet this week almost at all even if you're not that into gaming you have probably heard about this there's huge controversies where countries like Belgium are considering classifying different games as gambling online gambling because of how loot boxes are being handled because this post has gotten so big that it has gotten to people that manage laws in countries which is pretty crazy but congressmen are being contacted about this like it's it's blown up to a ludicrous degree which is good or bad depending on your stance probably bad let's start at the beginning yeah so the beginning is this post and then what really blew it up is the developer responding which usually makes things better it's super did not I'm sure a lot of this is the same old same old from what you guys have heard so before we get into their response why don't we ever learn what happened to begin with it was basically everyone getting yes super super duper mad because the new Star Wars Battlefront 2 game from EA which is a flagship title that cost 80 bucks yes also has heavily these pay2win game mechanics so how that kind of works and I played in the beta and I started to feel it as well is a lot of games have loot boxes you've got overwatch where you get a bunch of different skins or portraits or whatever shadow of war had some issues here as well where it could really help you with your gameplay but I beat on the hardest difficulty without using any of them that's not a brag a lot of people did this it's not that difficult of a game and it's not that big of a deal this is where it became a big problem this is a multiplayer game and they directly give you extremely powerful advantages against your enemy not just aesthetic skins stuff like that like overall no yeah like directly power you are better you do more damage you regen more health you have more health you lock onto targets faster you don't get locked onto as fast these types of things but surely you can achieve those things from just playing the game and not spending money yes but it takes a ludicrous amount of time how much time I don't know the exact hours but I think someone calculated it as like this is over six months it's 40 hours to unlock a hero but there's other stuff as well like the the hero that's definitely part of it and you can't get Vader without playing the game for 40 hours which is ridiculous because most people aren't gonna play the game for 40 hours no player or like just the game the game it's it's how it's balanced is not based on skill which is another thing that's pissing people off if you do really really well in a round and you kill a ton of people you're not gonna get that many more credits than someone who just played for the same amount of time that you did okay which is bugging a lot of people which sounds like seven money-making business package yeah because you have to pour a huge amount of time in like 40 hours to unlock something like a hero the party that bugs me even more than the hero part the hero part is just it hits that 40 hour number so it's easily digestable yeah okay um the cards you get these different cards that you put on your character they give you different bonuses okay say you're playing the spaceship combat mode I'm in a bomber you're in a TIE fighter I've spent a whole bunch of money on the game just money man tossing it all over the place I have something that makes it so that I lock on to targets 200% faster oh also my bombs do increase damage and I move fast you don't have any cards you just started the game you just launched up you were just fighting another bomber you're in a fighter you're able to get away from them and get out you're like sick ok I got this new move I spin and list slightly to the left and everything works out great you try to do the same thing against me I lock on to you 200% faster you can't get out of the way I can't you're dead yeah okay that directly strongly affected gameplay based on card advantages now to get to the top two there's different tiers of these cards as well to get to the top tier of cards you kind of have to craft your way up the easiest way to get crafting materials as loot boxes these easiest way to craft you two you're up to the top card is loot boxes people who spend money will be directly better at online competitive modes because of this and it's lots of money from remember quickly if you want to unlock everything like top tier of every card in all the heroes it's like 20 100 dollars or something that's I'm saying that I've talked my head I don't remember exact but it's not like even a realistic thing that anyone would want to do or realistic that's the thing yes it absolutely is if you look into the game industry right now especially the mobile side which of the guys that have been doing more of this kind of like loot box pay2win mechanics it hasn't been in a lot of full price games because that's ridiculous that's the whole controversy like do you think people get as mad if this game was free-to-play no pay2win I don't think they'd be nearly as you already paid 80 bucks yeah so what they're targeting is what's called in the gaming industries whales right it's small amounts of people I've heard people I know PewDiePie in his video said 10% I doubt it's anywhere near that high I'm gonna go with one percent or lower of players will spend a ludicrous amount of money these are the guys that will play a mobile game and just be like I'm gonna spend thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars not to wreck all of you literally thousands I spoke to when I was traveling I met some people from Silicon Valley who worked in the industry and they said they had a very small percentage of users who had spent over a hundred thousand dollars just on on that mobile app yep insane absolutely nuts and there are definitely lots of people that will spend that $2,100 to on day one Oh have a huge advantage on everyone else that also makes it that you've also put in cheats like is it yeah godmode it's not quite god mode but it is a noticeable advantage and the biggest issue for me is it creates a concept in the game where when someone kills you you can legitimately say that it was because of something that wasn't skill yeah you can you can lose be like overpowered that's ember and he just spent more money on the game that's why he won and you might not be wrong which is ridiculous I like that in lots of games where you're like oh that guns just overpowered the response from pretty much everyone else is gonna be like Haven use it or like find a way to counter it get good something like that in this game you could be like he just spent more money what can I do and that's a legitimate stance and that is ridiculous I shouldn't be able to be legitimate stance but it has been made so by the developers and it's ridiculous because of one of the statements that they said in this official post on which I'm going to jump back to here which drives me absolutely insane it drove the entire internet insane and I'm sure you've all heard this but where is it did it today and you really mean it this is like a record breaking oh yeah record breaking Java it says right now negative twenty point nine thousand but it's way more than that I don't know what happened it must have been on a slope or autocorrected curve whatever but I saw it personally at over six hundred thousand and I'm sure it was higher than that at some point in time but yeah let's see here will continuously adjust our progression mechanics to give players a sense of accomplishment as they all as they explore all of battlefront - that has driven everyone nuts because the sense of accomplishment isn't skill it's not doing better at the game gives you more credits it's spending more time on the game gives you more credits and you can just skip all of that and have a sense of freaking accomplishment by paying a whole bunch of money into the game and instantaneously being better than everyone removing other people's sense of accomplishment by squishing on them with your cash because you bought better freakin cards or heroes or whatever the question I have is when you come into this as a new who hasn't spent anything yet and you get absolutely demolished by someone who has are you just gonna put the game down and not play it anymore or are you gonna be motivated to spend their obviously banking on the ladder but what spending is actually gonna happen for people I think it's gonna be a little bit of both if you have this is the the frustrating situation you have right here if you have a group of friends and some people are saying yeah it's I think it was a slightly different quote I don't know if it was from a different poster this is one has been edited or what but I think it was slightly different anyways if you have a group of friends that all play games together you guys have been playing a game games together since high school or something and two out of six of the friends start playing battlefront all right you normally play a game all together but these guys want to play battlefront they just bought it then maybe one or two more guys buy battlefront because they were playing the last two guys are gonna cave because four or six have it anyways it's very easy if a couple people in groups start playing a game that everyone will eventually play it cuz everyone just wants to play together in something new and shiny that's great now you're all playing together but Jim and Larry don't have as much time they spend more time at work they're great gamers they're great in your crew you love having them there but they don't have as much time so to make up for the time they're gonna spend money on the game even though they're great gamers they're topping score charts and everything they could normally make up the time by getting more credits and just doing better in the game so something like counter-strike it doesn't matter at all because they don't care if they don't have the fancy skins they still get the same freaking gun yes um they're like overwatch it doesn't matter they don't care if they don't look as cool they have the same heroes everything's fine or even in destiny they just scale it they just scale it and in destiny you there's loot boxes sort of bright engrams but they just give you aesthetic items and it doesn't really matter these are games where you can catch up through skill or catch up because there's nothing to catch up on mm-hmm instead of oh I'm gonna catch up by spending money that is my mechanic to catch up to us I realize there is this time issue it's almost completely separate from the money issue it's yeah well that's the big problem is they kind of work together the money issue almost as like alleviates the time issue but that's some sicko that's like Dominic though yeah yeah so like the problem I have is cuz let's take a look at my brother my brother works a lot and has crazy work hours because he he drives truck for movie production companies so they work two crazy hours of the night they work crazy long hours in general and usually get on for a specific show and they want to film that entire show right so for the duration of that show you're working nutso amount of hours if he wants to play a game like this it's very likely that it would make logical sense I'm not saying he's going to I'm not saying he's not going to but it would make logical sense for him to buy some boxes so he can catch up to the rest of us that would be able to play more mm-hmm if we were playing this game that makes sense for him the problem is that the game is based around that yeah and it is trying to push people to do that if gaming companies start making money they'll try to find ways that make more money yeah so the time and money thing are mutually reinforcing yeah yeah the thing about back there's a question of like if you are more likely to just stop playing versus more likely to spend money in order to not get squashed you already have this sunk cost of 80 80 bucks that's a big issue too and like oh it's free you could walk away yeah oh if I just spend 10 more bucks I'll have more fun but then it's gambling which is another huge issue so you spend 10 more bucks and maybe you want to play the heavy class in the ground war game instead of the space game or whatever you want to play let's just go with the heavy class and you don't get any of the cards that you want for the heavy class you already spent your 10 bucks it's gone you didn't get any because the cards limited loot boxes and the loot boxes are random so it's gambling cuz maybe now you have to spend more you don't know I like playing the bomber in the star fighting game thing I played in the beta I only want cards for the bomber I play the bomber on both sides I play the tie bomber and I play the a wing I if I don't get cards to the bomber I'm just gonna want more loot boxes it's gambling you can craft cards too yeah and you can craft someone just in the chat just said you can craft cards to great people who spend money in the game will be able to craft more cards because they'll have more materials from the other cards and the more you play the game if I played that spaceship combat game for enough time I would eventually want to branch out of just fighting with the bomber ship it's not necessarily true for everyone or y-wing sorry it's not necessarily true for a wings a little fast one sorry it's not necessary true for everybody but a lot of people including myself are going to want to play then they'll want cards for other things then you're running out of crafting materials then it cost $2,100 to get all of the cards in the game because now you actually enjoy the game because you spent $80 and it's the only game you bought this season maybe it's just frustrating because now that it's here they're building the game around it that's one thing that I actually defended shadow of war with is when playing shadow war it didn't feel like they had built the game around the idea of the loot boxes the loot boxes gave you money they gave you some followers but the entire game it's like smashed in your face that there's these no not shadow for now it's smashing your face that there are these orcs all over the place and you just need to press the one button and it actually ends the combat faster if you want to recruit them so like it the game gives you these orcs all the time so it's not that big of a deal I didn't mind it that much it didn't feel like the game was designed around it Battlefront absolutely absolutely battlefront 2 feels like it was designed around the idea of the loot boxes instead of the other way around which is bad this is very bad so we haven't even got to the news portion which is the new lock that after a brutal AMA where they just made everyone even more mad either question dodging and brutal unsatisfactory answers they made another determination which was for now they're just gonna turn off all of it all the ability to purchase crystals in in-game will now be completely off it's offline and John told me that actually if you go to the the interface where you go to buy these crystals instead of just removing the button and not letting you go into that area you can click the button and it brings it just like a random janky blank page maybe people on the check and confirm or deny this but that's I haven't seen that I don't I don't have it some of the chat said Luke won't be streaming battlefront 2 technically I will be streaming battlefront 2 I'll be streaming battlefront 2 tomorrow it'll just be the original one because I'm playing games throughout the years so I don't remember what your the original battlefront 2 came out in but I'm playing it for that year so it's gonna be all pixelated and wonky and fun so fun I was involved fun there's no loot boxes it's great 2007 apparently what No maybe it's not 2007 so thing to note about them turning off this this game mechanic for the buying is that they didn't remove it they've just turned it off and they say the ability to purchase crystals in-game will become available at a later date once EA has made changes to the game so it's funny because the internet seems to lag here a little bit it felt like if you if you pile everyone which isn't fair it's not fair I understand if you pile everyone on the Internet into one little hive mind bubble hmm they read the first part and then about an hour or two later read the second part because the whole internet rejoice like we did it reddit we we won they took microtransactions out accomplished and then like starting about half an hour to an hour later it started kind of bubbling up and then by two hours later it had passed posts about the original happiness yeah that oh my goodness they're just putting the microtransactions back in the game and they called it the wait what inning yeah so like it's it's frustrating because this is so transparent they're trying to get this huge wave of people that are refunding the game like me to rebuy it play it long enough that now they're invested maybe they have a group of friends that play or I don't know how the great game guarantee works on origin I know that I played for zero hours so I was zero minutes zero seconds whatever so I was able so they're gonna wait til that expires I think so but I don't know if that matters I don't know how the great game guarantee works but they're trying to they're gonna wait til people are kind of stuck in it or can't refund it or whatever and then they'll put microtransactions back in they'll make their money off their whales and they'll move on I'm sure that the microtransactions I'm sure it's gonna be they're gonna adjust it so you don't have to do so much work the disparity won't be so huge okay there is a huge issue there as well did you hear about this so they reduced the cost of Heroes but the right they do that in the amount of credits that you get that's right so they basically just it was the same basically they did two different moves that were both two-faced non moves yeah they were like hey we reduced the cost of yours by the way we also reduce the amount of credits you get don't worry about it right and then they're like hey we removed microtransactions to the game by the way they're also coming back don't worry about it so it was like a hero used to be a grand but you start with a hundred bucks now a hero is only a hundred bucks but you start with ten bucks yeah essentially so I guess this controversy just got so bad that they were actually afraid of losing their launch day sales like that upfront $80 yes that was gonna get so heavily eroded that you're like okay we can't sacrifice that and I wonder at some point because like a lot of these moves are so dense like a sense of accomplishment when you're answering a spot a a post which its title is it takes 40 hours to unlock a hero and you can just buy it like that's so obviously not the right way to respond to that I seriously wonder at some degree if this isn't just any press is good press because now every single gamer definitely knows about battlefront every single mom and dad knows battlefront is around now this is too too bad too bad too bad usually when companies take that strategy on they only alienate people who weren't gonna get their product anyway you know what I mean yeah someone in the chat Oh Neha KJ I think I probably butchered that name I'm sorry said Disney CEO literally called up the EA CEO and told them to remove the option to pay for loot boxes because Disney started getting Kraft for purchasing which is mechanics towards children I haven't seen anything about that at all if I heard did that be very badass where he's just like looking out for a bro it's like yo this is not going well for us don't do it yeah I I don't know I haven't heard anything about that but it's it is pretty brutal there are people who have been posting examples of like the Disney star wars XD shows the animated ones where it's like a show about how gambling is bad based in the Star Wars universe it's like a part of the Star Wars show I think it's rebels and it's about how gambling is bad and then they have a Star Wars game that has gambling in it and you can say as much as you want like this isn't a kids game kids are gonna play it like our generation we played I'm assuming you did as well yeah I thought our games pretty early on Grand Theft Auto was one of the ones that my parents were like I played it a little bit like friends houses and they knew and they didn't care but like okay like halo I was in there pretty early on counter-strike I was in there quite early as anything goes and I grew up like the thing is now it's our generation and a little bit above that are starting to have welfare a bit above I guess that are starting to have kids at these ages that were you're talking about where they might watch something like Disney XD you think our generation that grew up with like shooter games is gonna care too much if someone plays battlefront which is like pretty innocent for a shooter game oh yeah like can you can you chop people up your lightsaber humans not okey I think it goes through them I don't think they split in half they just like fall over yeah cuz like ever since I was eight I wanted to be able to just totally do people that hard ribbons yeah I'm not sure I could be wrong on that if you can't do that then like that's like I don't know kids are absolutely gonna be playing this game it doesn't matter that it's ers are berated whatever I don't even know what it is might be em I don't know what they are look at them there's no ways what is what is the normal rating T okay that makes sense teen whatever kids are definitely gonna be playing it and gambling's in it and like a gambling mechanic that makes you better at the game isn't it and that's bad because kids always want to be better there's always that kid in your school that was like my shoes make me run faster now there's gonna be some kid being like I have a better card from a ship I'm better than you yeah that's I could see kids at school being like use your scrub yeah yeah I bet they don't place a scrub anymore they should bring it back to the route and pretty cool as far as I'm lazy James thinks you should bring scrub back yeah I know we've talked about this topic for a long time but it is pretty important we can get out of it though we're pretty good we're pretty done aren't we yeah I guess I'll talk about like the aftermath and kind of what to do and stuff so a lot of people been bringing this to local representatives because they're trying to get loot boxes and games classified as gambling I do think personally that something needs to happen I'm a little bit worried about how far seeing things in games as gambling could go because like randomized loot off of a monster that you have to farm by spending more time in the game where a game is subscription-based might be seen as gambling slippery slope so it depends where it ends but something needs to happen and loot boxes are just horrible so maybe contact your local authorities to some degree well I can tell you the language that the Belgium Commission was using yeah the Belgian gambling Commission is investigating Battlefront about because the loot boxes and what they said was loot crate's that you purchase without knowing what's inside can be considered gambling because your ability to succeed in the game is dependent on chance and therefore it's a game of chance and if it's a game of chance so in that permit so if that individual item is purchased and it's a random chance that's that's a good way to define it because I don't want to screw with like random chance that is inherently built within games well I think that the emphasis here though in my interpretation anyway is that your success in the game really depends on it yeah see that anyway this is probably not a conversation to bother have on LAN show but that's where like like if you get a legendary item in world of warcraft your success in the game could be based around getting that it affects your success for sure but like but it's not but it's not a loot crate and it's a totally different style of system and ba-ba-ba-ba-ba pretty should be pretty easy to divide between I don't think it's actually gonna be a problem so let's move on tough topic yeah how about that face ID that iPhone X yeah let's jump to that yeah oh they did it so how did how did it happen is that it's so awesome if you bring up the pictures of this mask it's actually a YouTube video you can play that YouTube video just put the sound office up hills anyway yeah it's one of those what the heck okay I'm gonna show security researchers in Vietnam have cracked apples new face ID using a composite mask consisting of a silicon nose literally paper cutout 2d eyes mounted on a plastic frame that they 3d printed okay so that's this is no good this is not it well there's like I've won like a two-minute video oh no this is 51 minutes I was like maybe I can find them I think it's linked from the forum thread okay good music so the caveat here is like even though this mask only took fifty bucks to make they did have to actually scan the the victims face with like a face scanner so that's kind of integral to it but other than that the eyes were actually just printed out paper and it's a simple silicon nose silicon nose getting a scan of someone's face is gonna be not that easy what did they have to scan it with they used a handheld like dedicated scanner but they say that in there that's gonna yeah in the future you might be able to use one of those just like cell phone ones yeah or even just construct the image with with images like just use the images to make them on yeah okay because if you could be like sitting across the table at dinner with someone and oh I'm just telling the boss or like yeah and inadvertently get someone's you have to go around them but right yeah so not that far because they just have the white meshing on on most of the sides so he just used that thing to unlock like if you look at it the size of the thing I show the front at some point here but there's a there's a couple things about this number one is it's hilarious because at launch Apple said that it worked with professional mask makers and makeup artist in Hollywood to make sure that masks couldn't be used to hack face ID and these like random dudes have already done it with something that doesn't look all that professional well that's the other things especially the eyes it's literally just printed out in like his face a picture of his face they cut out the eyes from that picture and put it on to this like mannequin head that's wild and the reason that's especially interesting is because people thought from the patents that Apple took out that eye movement factored in to face ID but this would suggest otherwise and if I move Minh doesn't factor in to face ID then that means that you can use potentially someone who is unconscious knocked out or even dead to unlock a fault which is pretty scary even even the touch what do they call that touch ID yeah yeah even they're super crazy even touch ID which Apple claims is like an order of magnitude less secure yeah face ID even that when you had its sense like the heat of your thumb so if you'd been dead for more than like a couple hours or a day they couldn't unlock your phone you can wotty yeah you can do that slightly artificially by like external heating and all this other junk but like it's it's not that easy it's a lot harder than just like you know what I mean like it's yeah it's there's always gonna be a way to get through some form of security nothing is 100% secure but like it's kind of sad this has already been done and it's kind of it's interesting because cameras on stuff like phones are constantly getting better and they're constantly starting to implement things like depth scanning and all this other stuff so we're gonna get closer and closer progressively to breaking through this being easier and easier the security on this get the worse over time unless they're actively improving it it doesn't prove itself as you use it or more and more yeah like I've heard of people being locked out when they put their glasses on and it had yeah when they did the initial scan they weren't wearing glasses or their hair wasn't in their face so then it locks you out you enter your code and when you enter your code it's like oh the the model that we just took like you with glasses on we're gonna add that to the model now so that's just an annoyance banning the model but it's not necessarily making it more secure like see like the having hair your face and stuff is just annoying I don't I don't want to deal with it because it gets in your eyes and well no good call but like like with touch ID if I just like with mine it's not touch ID but I have a fingerprint sensor on the back doesn't matter what situation mean I'd be completely covered in mud if I just like wipe my finger off real quick and go burp I get in my phone yo you still got the passcode and that but like it's just I don't know but it's pretty sick that I can t remember the last time you it's that's still an action that you're taking right you're deciding granted that it's muscle memory that you do automatically after a while yeah you're still taking an action to unlock your phone whereas apples is pursuing a time when you just kind of go like do not know you don't even do that you're just like look you like by the time you look at your phone it's unlocked that's sick so they're like trying to get there I guess they should be aspiring to that that's because that's optimal use case as long as it's secure it's not there yet though evidently it's slower than touch ID which is frustrating fingerprint is pretty insecure though yeah it has a lot of issues too it's like 1 in 50,000 or something like that yeah it's like I don't know what your problems with their methodologies here so the story is absurdly short-sighted it is there though cuz some people were saying that it's possible that when they registered their face they like had their face obscured or something like that or tried to make their face kind of more like the mask so that they were similar yeah but they and there hasn't been there's no way to verify that but the research researchers did say that they made four other masks that didn't work and once those ones failed they rear edge Estate re-registered their face on the face ID and that after registering their face they didn't do any passcode entries to update it that's what they say yeah I don't know I if if nothing else all I really want this to stand for is to reinforce that anything can be broken into no one should ever consider anything absolutely secure this might be better I don't necessarily think it's easier when I go to I always use my phone when it's in my hand I never go like I'm gonna look at it what's on the table so Linus does that we talked about this once and he was like he hated that the finger for things were on the back because he often wants to like just unlock it when it's on the table yeah I just heard a lot of boo-hoo-hoo yeah but that doesn't find me here so like and it's become a natural part of picking up the phone to unlock it by the time you get to it yeah so the speed thing doesn't help for me personally and face ideas slow words over there mad cuz he's an Apple user and he just doesn't know what it's like to have that fingerprint reader on the back do you have a ten gravy baby do you have a ten no you wish even Apple yeah maybe yeah maybe it is in I don't know if you guys can hear that but just in case any of you missed it that was sarcasm it's a fantastic tool but yeah I don't know I I just don't like it for a lot of reasons personally but if you do like it that's great run with it do whatever you want personal preferences are awesome just do know that nothing is completely secure we should also mention that the fact that you can like scans one's face and then make a mask and unlock their phone that's like espionage level packing yeah like this is more like see they're just gonna like run by you and grab it or grab it and then choke hold you and make your face look at it and then run away or or steal your phone and go hey is this your phone and then you look at it yeah it is and then thanks that would actually work way to that's pretty good if a guy with a balaclava comes up this phone so everyone's gonna have to carry your own masks so they have to chase someone who steals their phone they can put the solution that this is more mask yes yeah take those laws away that we can't wear masks everyone has to wear masks so that when they go to unlock their phone they just go huh and then put it back yeah they just occurred to me that there's gonna be people in the Middle East who like wanna use face unlock did they do they just not use face unlock didn't you just only use it at home use a passport your house code public yeah never thought of it yeah moving on anyways last night I got to watch this awesome livestream Oh Ellen Musk's it can't be Elon Ellen must DeGeneres they had a child together and they hyphenated the last name oh that like that hurt oh I need a moment anyways okay so no I know it's Elon yeah they finally unveiled the semi truck yes which i think is pretty BA the question on everyone's mind is when and where are you gonna be able to make these things given that you're struggling so hard to produce the Model 3 for the next like two years and you're spending a billion dollars per quarter on doing that you can't just build another gig of fact for you apparently they're gonna be start shipping or not shipping they're gonna start producing the semi truck in 2019 yeah and the new roadster which is gonna be the fastest car fastest production car by acceleration in the world that's 2020 yeah so things could happen before 2020 and change that claim but as of right now it theoretically is which is really cool there's a lot of really awesome things about the truck but there are concerns like you just said how are you gonna make this I do know they're they're production lines are constantly increasing so maybe a theory somewhere says that they'll be able to actually make them properly by 2019 maybe one will be made in 2019 are they making two more Giga factories as well they're they're constantly expanding so I I can't claim to know what is gonna happen in terms of their production line semi truck itself is pretty dope though did you jet it looks cool it looks pretty cool and it I've been saying for quite a long time that semi trucks and trucks in general are going to be super-important for Tesla because trucks things that need huge amounts of torque are gonna benefit from electric engines a ton now there are some issues coming from the trucking industry like my my grandfather his job actually for like basically ever was financing semi trucks for people and companies that want to get into trucking so a super important detail is costs per kilometer or cost per mile and they talked about that in the stream that was a direct call out for companies and financial institutions that financed the semi trucks because they're extremely expensive that was a direct Hey look at us it's going to be easier to get loans because you can throw this number which is one of the most important numbers when you're buying a truck that is it is cheaper per kilometer you can also throw in numbers like the truck is guaranteed for whatever amount of distance if you have a breakdown it's it's some ridiculous number if oh yeah yeah what was that if you have a oh yeah what happened was it's got four separate independent engines and two of them break down and you can still go like four hundred miles or something like that yeah it's it's not in this document okay by the way speaking of price they did not mention an absolute price at all they only know price per mile which they put at 20% cheaper again it was only relative 20 percent cheaper than a comparable diesel truck it includes the cost of the they're not just talking about the truck they're talking about like a the entire thing I can just buying it and Sharon is moderating it me and maintenance you know maintenance is gonna be a big reason why that number is lower yeah yeah because gonna put that out there right now another huge issues only goes 500 miles on one charge the only there is probably not properly placed someone in chat said only most trucking routes are able to be there and back within that time and truckers are mended mandated to take breaks that is a huge deal in I know North America I don't know outside of that you have to take breaks and that is within the amount of distance that you would be able to reasonably travel within when your breaks easily your break has to be half our during the break it can charge for 500 miles of further just 400 400 miles of further distance during that break and you be able to keep going that's not really a major point as long as they actually have the I think they're called super charging station I think actually he dropped Megatron a good charger yeah Megatron's like it's gonna be like a separate kind of network I'm thinking that kind of a same way you drive by a card lock gas station oh yeah yeah that's for Sammy's ya have to be like that I wouldn't be surprised if it was kind of its own thing so a typical diesel truck can go a thousand miles on a full tank do you know how long it takes to fill up that tank when you're saying it I think he said 15 minutes no no I'm talking with like a like a normal diesel truck oh wow I assumed it would take a little while it's going to take longer to charge this truck but one of his points was that you don't have to stand there the whole time I guess it is definitely going to take longer to charge it but I don't think there's gonna be a bunch of truck drivers leaning against the truck while it zips electricity or gulps I guess electricity from hugs it from the network I've also talked about a guaranteed price for four semi trucks at 7 cents per unit would that be kilowatt I don't remember exactly what analyst is that also in kilowatt that's not on the document either but he did okay got a guaranteed price which is a big deal also also a big deal in terms of getting financial support for trucks one a big question that I haven't I'm sure okay I haven't seen anyone ask it but I am absolutely certain someone has so and I haven't looked so that's kind of an issue that I haven't looked for it but a big problem is gonna be wait they didn't talk about it on the street there's a lot of weighing stations for trucks because roads can only support a a certain amount of weight and the batteries are gonna weigh a lot I did see this yeah okay naked it is gonna be heavier then yeah then a naked normal diesel I think that's gonna be a big issue there's weighing stations like all over the place they did not address that did you see the cockpit design yeah so it's 500 miles with 32.2 tons of cargo so at max capacity is that the heaviest class heat a lot of the stats he gave out were for the heaviest class of truck like the speed and the range and everything so the lack of engine might compensate for that yeah but like if you look at the Model S it's actually a pretty heavy car because the battery and all that other stuff you have to do more than look at it you probably have to try to lift it apparently way stations are for trailer load and balance not total load oh okay we have some really we just got everyone all kinds of now someone said weigh stations over total weight who knows I just it wasn't addressed in the stream and it made me worried a little bit but this will be huge another big thing that they brought up was convoy mode this isn't the first time we've seen convoy mode I've been in a car that was doing convoy mode before being in a convoy but essentially the cost per mile or per kilometer goes down drastically when you have these trucks in convoy mode I believe I don't think he went over it in exhaustive detail but I believe because they talked to each other and they can run really closely together drafting very efficiently okay so I didn't I didn't hear this from the stream last night but it was an article I read today okay they said that in comm what the reason convoy mode is so much cheaper in fact musk said it was cheaper than rail yes it was because but he didn't show the rail number well you only need a driver in the front truck okay yes that's a thing is that they evil they even showed it in the animation there was a person in the front truck there's no people of nugget once following it that was a very important note that's crazy but is that so did they bake in the cost of the driver definitely they must have otherwise that doesn't matter so but I mean in the in the initial Tesla semi versus diesel semi comparison well I don't think so because in the second number when he said in convoy mode he was comparing those against the other ones not against train and he said it was like 80 cents or something I would think of that at that comparison I mean like it's a company they're gonna make their numbers look as good as they can I would assume that they'd be like yeah but it's like you know 2/3 cheaper because there's only one driver involved and that is that is a realistic consideration if you're well yeah mostly I think I I wonder how they're going to accomplish this because convoy mode makes sense for highways which is what they showed it on it's like you get to it exactly you're not gonna be like you're not gonna be able to convoy for the entire trip yeah you got the turnoff and what do you do for the rest of the drivers well they are getting their enhanced Auto III missed this maybe twitchchat knows what's going on enhance auto pilots they're deaf for all of them yeah and if this is like 1 to 2 years out maybe it'll be even better by then then the Elan did not did not avoid talking about autopilot he brought it up directly in the stream he said that they would have all their most modern yeah that's true but he didn't say that he may not have what they're saying doesn't address our question of whether he said that about convoy mode Oh long did say that they're all gonna get it hence to autopilot for sure yeah well in the video there isn't drivers in the in the trucks behind the first ok I didn't notice that so yeah that's good yeah it's it's it's gonna be interesting does it have air brakes I oh it has the he did talk about breaking a bit because it's never after it has the regenerative braking so I was actually out of test another dealership the other day and I was asking if with the regenerative braking can you can you coast just as well as you can cuz me when I'm driving actually coast quite a bit yeah and he told me as a person who's never driven at esli said actually you can't really coast worth a crop and the regenerative braking is on a slow easy down like pretty fast yeah but the upside of that is he like barely ever have you over a bridge brake which is what he said here he didn't say anything about about air brakes I would that even work I don't I don't have a very good understanding of how semi trucks work don't think it would work anyways what about that roadster though the roadster yeah I guess we can at the end of the whole semi truck thing it was kind of like a one more thing moment yeah and they pop open the hatch and a new Tesla Roadster drove out of the back of the trailer that the semi truck was towing can do 0 to 60 in 1.9 seconds it can do zero to a hundred and I believe 4.9 I don't see that on here but see that but I actually I do have a list of linked a Wikipedia of the fastest zero second speeds and I was like oh I wonder if they like killed some records from other like super expensive cars well they kind of just beat their own record yeah yeah it can go 620 miles or a thousand kilometers on a single charge he was happy because they broke the thousand kilometer ceiling which is pretty cool it seats for production so yeah it's a 2+2 production starts in 2020 the first 1000 cars will cost 250 grand each paid in full up front who later cars starting at 2 underground so presumably their first thousand there they're gonna sell there it was yeah yeah which makes a lot of sense I love this quote Elon said and his stuttering is removed from this quote is that the point of doing this is just to give a hardcore smackdown to gasoline cars driving a gasoline sports car is gonna feel like a steam engine with a side of quiche that's wicked that was 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how it works it's pretty neato the opportunities for education are immense it's embarrassing tons of really cool videos razor blade 4k review I don't think that's on YouTube yet and that has probably one of the best skits in a video we've like ever done oh is that the the one with me when I'm in this coat no that was a phone I don't think it's not alright are you we got lots of good skits I'm not in it oh yeah can't be the best get the best get would have us both yeah yeah yeah so bad pack can get regards that packing I love how every once in a while my the words just come out all right Firefox that topic might as well move on to it yeah you should open up the source number two because we can check it out on the screen and there's lots to see I need to find it huh there we go got it the Firefox hardware survey which uses telemetry supplied by the browser to assess what hardware participants are using has revealed some surprising statistics related to GPU market share yeah so we can not see right here because this isn't the way but I'm just gonna move us turns out more of people maybe for graphics we've got AMD at 15% we've got Intel at 65 percent so that's the built-in graphics on your CPU look they're talking about integrated graphics nvidia 14% that's one percent behind AMD what the heck would what a surprise I mean this isn't just people in the world this is Firefox users yeah who filled out the survey what all right did anyone actively fill this out is it just our first Hardware report I think you have you have to like opt-in to supply data or whatever right so it's possible there's a selection bias where AMD people are just the type of people off into this stuff doesn't seem likely to me I don't think that's necessarily what's going on I have I have I have I have a main theory for this Firefox right now is the like this is the ethical choice of browsers this is the underdog browser this is the browser that not the mainstream uses oh and those are the same people you can run a bell and bry this browser or use this browser I see it's similar arguments to don't use the big mainstream scary guy thing that a lot of the AMD guys are making and I think it might make sense that there are more of them on this platform regardless even if that is true this is still super cool definitely this is good people for some reason are comparing this to uses our stats that we had from steams hardware survey T pcs is coming in with the sassy luke where have you been well there's been the case with Firefox for years so yeah apparently that might actually be more true of a statement than IV so he's backing up your theory yeah I guess indirectly he doesn't know yeah no one actually knows yes that's true yeah I don't think anyone actually really knows but I wouldn't be surprised if that is at least part of it for some reason people are saying that this is like super at odds with the steam Hardware server the latest iteration of which came out in October yeah where the GPU mark Scheffer and video was over 80% and AMD was only 10 and Intel integrated graphics there's only like seven and a half it's pretty obvious why these numbers are so vastly different yeah selection bias being you're someone who has steam installed so you're a gamer so you're less likely that integrated crap graphics and if you're gonna have a gaming type of GPU it's likely gonna be Nvidia surprise surprise most people on the internet don't have a gaming PC I'm probably using laptops even that just don't have any form of dedicated graphics and it's all integrated on chips and you can't even add one or they're using older like best buy pcs that were just like home pcs that don't have graphics cards even though it's like obviously a weird comparison to make I can see why it's being made because those steam hardware starts to get excited a lot particularly in displays like the fact that only 4% of steam players have 4k monitors like that the stack gets thrown around all the time when people are talking about how prevalent 4k monitors really are yeah so okay it's steam stats are popular but yeah they just really don't have any relevance here yeah it doesn't matter for this specific use case and there's a lot of Cheaper laptops I don't know if necessarily right now but at least when I worked in retail that's sold with AMD graph so it was I actually probably sold more laptops at that point in time that had AMD graphics because it was more affordable so more people were buying them from my store I didn't own the store but the store that I worked at give me can we see that page again yeah it had more than just GPUs on there yeah that was an interesting part too so it has quite a few different things it even has operating system which I find fascinating Windows 7 was that 46 percent which is Wow probably pretty crazy witness again is only that gives credence to your theory then is a certain like the certain type of person uses fire people that windows inside resisted upgrading to Windows 10 that's crazy I love Windows 7 well I stayed on Windows 7 for a long time but the only reason why I moved off of it was because of be constant super aggressive annoying pressure from Windows 10 as I moved to a Windows 8.1 embedded copy so you do that I'm still on 98 and said nice yeah so all day that's pretty good that's pretty cool all day after that we've got 1% of users on Windows XP guys update what are you doing oh just working 8% of people on Windows 8.1 represent I that's me you think there's a sliver for Vista in there that's 5% others 6% dozier there's your Vista speaking of Firefox users these these people are gonna be pretty pumped because Firefox quantum is out now have you used this yeah I have used it I'm loving it really yeah I was taking it for a spin it's good yeah I've so I've seen people having issues I have not personally had any issue okay I know there's some things where people like certain specific add-ons that aren't quite on quantum yet some people don't like how certain parts of the browser aren't customizable but let's talk about the core value proposition of this browser according to Mozilla Firefox quantum is over twice as fast as the firefox from just six months ago built on a completely overhauled core engine and boasting a stylish new design dubbed photon UI which streamlines a number of elements included in previous releases so i'm not gonna lie this marketing takes a lot of people off and for reasons that i understand do they show it here somewhere they showed like two times faster and then they show a comparison of firefox quantum versus the most recent version of Chrome so people don't realize that they were talking about a previous version of Firefox okay because they show two times faster in big bold text and then directly beside it a comparison of quantum versus Chrome right when they're meaning two times faster than the previous version or product they do say quantum is faster to load a number of popular websites than Coronis yeah including Wikipedia Bing no one cares tumblr and shutterstock no one cares like Firefox users around 30% less memory than chrome edge and Safari on windows so there's there's some things going on here one thing that I did appreciate is that in their own testing in their own video showing load time comparisons between quantum and Chrome it shows quantum winning quite often not by two times and someone with chat says in fairness in the comparison video it shows fairly equivalent speeds if I remember correctly quantum wins usually and I'm sure they cherry-pick sites to a certain degree but I know at least one point in time the Chrome browser did beat the quantum their own video and they included in their own video that's cool I thought that was pretty cool so he's a weird like we're gonna show ourselves losing and at the same time we're gonna do super misleading marketing so it was like what so like if anyone actually watched the video at all they would have known something was up but yeah it's been a delight to you so far I think it looks great it's run great for me float plane runs on it beautifully just want to put that out - tech tips writer Allison Young chimed in virtually saying Firefox users may also be more likely to be running ap use yeah so if we want to jump back slightly to that topic this was six minutes ago that he sent me that but we can look at the processor section which has shown to you guys good Intel is that 88% AMD's at 12% I don't know the steam hardware survey for that is but I wouldn't be surprised if on the steam hardware server a into was even higher you think yeah there were so many years where AMD wasn't putting out a news yeah yeah right yeah yeah so I don't know but I wouldn't be surprised but it's it's not like AMD is crushing the processor side of things back to the quantum thing I I was like I should actually just check this out because I used to use Firefox like forever until chrome came out in 2008 I just wanted to check it out and I liked the design haven't use Firefox since I was like I should go back to my roots here but then I had the thought well it'll be like two weeks until chromis better again they'll make a new they'll just make a new version it would be better I like using Firefox and it is very fast it's it's fast to the point where when using the previous they said six months ago it's two times faster and six months ago it was notably slow and now it's not notably slower it's fast enough that I click on a site and it just loads but here's something that made me reconsider I saw quote from not sure if it was a CEO but someone at Mozilla who is like my biggest fear is that people just won't try it I just want people to try it and I read that now it kind of took my heartstrings bit I was like you know what man for you I'll try it I didn't yet wow I think I want it I'm gonna check it at all I don't know if people remember but in a lot of my older videos I used to where I have a couple two different shirts one of them just has the Firefox logo on it and another one says I'm protecting the world's largest resource mmm and on the back it talks about Firefox I kind of support them a little bit um I even have a little Firefox plushie thing cuz I used to be like when I actually programmed things I used to be a big fan of firefox and i stopped using it because it was directly interfering with my day-to-day work because firefox was crashing so often or was slow and all these other issues and i excitedly but with a lot of fear installed quantum because I was like I really don't want this to fail me again they are making a lot of strong claims I'm gonna give it a shot and I give it a strong shot and I installed all my different add-ons I customized it made it look exactly the way I wanted it to and then dove deeply and I have it on my work with you to have my home care now you're fully entangled it's on my phone it's great you get it and been awesome anybody get that joke was a quantum joke oh that is good that is good speaking of I really hope that in the near future these companies stop using Q or quantum in their branding because there's gonna come a point where there are actual products with quantum capability we need to be able to differentiate that yes that is actually I know any means I immediately thought about that what I saw the name I was like is it oh yeah we're getting in what way well I was actually I thought it might be like some super wacko experimental thing that they were working on and then I was like oh it's just a new browser what that actually was a little bit confusing so yeah I hear you on that one but yeah I don't know I think it's cool having a browser that actually isn't made by a company that aggressively profits off of harvesting every single thing that you do in your entire life that's weird you know like I don't know kind of down with the Firefox a little bit so we've been doing this for long enough but you want to do a couple more I mean I'm down we have been doing this line up what do you want to do ah there's so many exciting ones okay there's some rapid-fire ones okay Apple home pod the big speaker it's kind of a smart speaker from Apple delayed missing out on the holiday season this brings joy to my heart actually um I'm actually kind of a anti-fan boy with Apple I do respect Apple and I think a lot of products are pretty objectively sick like they're sweet but on the other hand sometimes I like a little win I like when because it's not that I don't like Apple satisfying stab yeah III don't like Apple fanboys so I have like a counter force to that they get out of here you're talking about the ad not me right yes yeah it's great so full disclosure home pod is not it is a small part of of apples revenue it's in the other services or in the other section why don't you eat apples so much I don't hate apple i hate Apple fanboys apples pretty dope do you hate Android fanboys I hate all fanboys okay I like objective people okay but so you want app Apple to hurt because you dislike the people that like Apple no I don't want Apple to hurt I want Apple fanboys to hurt ah so you're hoping this doesn't really hurt their bottom line anymore but you're also like haha you don't get your thing for Christmas yeah it won't hurt the bottom line because this is one of their other products and they get like the majority of the revenue from the iPhones and their services so that's gonna be miniscule anyway but it actually could hurt them in the future because right now these smart home smart speakers and and home the implementations are really starting to gain traction especially since little mini is out now there's a bazillion different types of Amazon echoes I think they're gonna be a pretty significant gift this holiday season and I got one from Apple to miss that it's gonna be yeah that hurts and it's it's hitting mainstream and my grandfather and my mom have one that's not like that's not like me forcing it on them be like use this to support your sodden dark grandpa yeah this is like I got one for my grandpa I believe he got one for my mom and they both like actively use it all the time well everyone has everyone has everything these days like what are you gonna get someone for Christmas in so this is totally a thing yeah except the home pod won't be notably Google's answer to the home pod which is the Google home max looks very similar has similar sound like speaker focusing capabilities it will be on sale this holiday season and this is just so bad for Apple because even though Siri is the oldest virtual assistant its assistant it is quite clearly the worst and they just need any ability it's less than Cortana hmm or are you only classifying the two I was known as that no I was thinking of a Bob Bixby as well uh Bixby is actually pretty dope really it's probably as a general assistant it's probably on the level of Siri but it has these extra capabilities that we used in our showcase video that you let you navigate through apps like open this app and go to settings and then change this setting go to my home screen swipe right you can't even do that with the assistant yet and I can't wait until you can cuz it's super sweet to be able to do that Cortana I don't know I've actually seen videos on YouTube of people using Cortana to do these like kick-ass things in Excel which I would I'd love to to program macros by voice like using Cortana just like how can't be bothered because it seems like such a upfront cost but anyway Apple needs any opportunity they can get to try to catch up in this space and they're just not getting it and eventually I think it's gonna be the end I don't think I've ever heard anyone say anything positive about Cortana although that Excel thing does sound cool but I haven't had it work in any form in any other way so there's that or Bigsby I haven't personally used Bigsby but that dedicated button is rough well I mean I didn't say it's perfect I'm just saying like serious is pretty weak yes yeah watching the lioness try to use Siri to call someone while we were driving for lunch was hilarious oh no it just it just couldn't it just couldn't do it like it was actually hilariously bad well the Google assistants not perfect either I'm actually no I'm disappointing you know what makes me can do that assistant doesn't seem to be able to is chain commands like on Bixby I can say Siri can't do that because Google assistant can Google's my goo my Google home even though I can say the command and say turn on my TV and I can tell it to play a certain video on YouTube I can't say turn on the TV and play the latest Vsauce video on YouTube it'll say I don't know how to do that but if I say there was one I did yesterday words you can't do that either well but BICS we can change commands it can do things like go to Instagram and post my third latest photo with the caption blah blah okay how's that one long command yeah yeah you can say go to the settings and open and go to display settings and change the screen timeout to ten minutes yeah okay which is cool but there was a command I issued to my Google assistant that I it was two commands and I put them this way and it said I don't know how to do that and then I rephrased it the same commands in a different order and then it did it like I wonder if that's part of it cuz I use Google assistant for everything and I play specific songs with it within like it has to open an app and then find the specific song and whatnot all the time which is two different steps hmm well music and play whatever that's actually one because you can't say open google play music yeah I know that I can't say hey open YouTube on Google home I can't say open YouTube on the TV I have to say open you two can play Linus tech tips on the TV yeah but then I don't person it this is what we should probably move on but I don't personally think that's a huge point because Bigsby isn't in a home device is it yeah I don't know anyways Amazon echo is coming to Canada Lance would be so stoked we can finally start reviewing him and stuff yes do you know that story no we got neck oh oh he tried that's right dude I tried on the fire TV I brought it home on a weekend and stuff and I was like the interface like this is work yeah I was on tech support calls and all this Junkin is like yeah just not supposed to be using that yeah it's like you and you can like with mine it was like you can't use it at all it wouldn't even allow itself to set up so I like VPN to my router so that when it connected to the Wi-Fi I thought it was in America and I was like okay cool okay and then yeah yeah hi - hi there are gonna be all salty that you're not here now well they're going well now they know that I'm on the LAN show even though you're in the building what does it mean why is this quitting video someone in the chat said Linus is fired he's just gonna drive his multiple Tesla roadsters from now on that he drives around in his Tesla semi-truck what are we talking about we're talking about a Mazon right yeah so so we got one for review I had a vpmi router - even freaking make the thing work at all and then it couldn't do almost anything because I'm in Canada and it doesn't know any of the stuff for up here and I was just like oh okay and then we sent it to a person I'm not gonna say who who was in America to do a review on it and like write the the the notes for the review for us and then we never heard from them again no it's gone well it's here now and apparently it's gonna speak Canadian English with a Canadian English accent so Eastern then I know I don't I it's gonna say a boot like I don't know what's the difference what's it gonna say yeah open that a it's gonna say sorry instead of sorry sorry alright so I say like I don't know I guess what this one summer in the chat said Zed that makes sense yeah yeah yeah it's mostly it's mostly that we's pronounced o's like o's and they pronounced always like a is a lot like I'm sorry and what's another one I've been oh sorry yeah yeah but anyway it won't speak French yet I don't care neither do I is I don't speak French people who me apparently 20% of our population does yeah yeah well like as their main language it'll be coming from more than come I bet you more than 25% of our population can speak French I bet you twenty four twenty percent of our population speaks French as their main language no if it's less than that actually really didn't put in the in the notes what I read it earlier but this isn't actually the first country I thought we would be maybe the second country that echo was in but we're not they went to India a month ago and Japan last week and presumably it's not English in India and Japan yeah so get on it French come oh there's give you some deals to the echo is gonna be $99.99 Canadian peso is instead of a regular 130 the echo dot is gonna be fifty bucks instead of 70 and the echo plus is gonna be 170 instead of two hundo Gary a B that's what it's gonna say you yeah issued a command it's gonna execute the map command and say dare you be dare by if you like if you if you tell it like I'm gonna go hike Mount Everest it'll be like good luck big shoots I've never even heard that one anyways show's over yeah that's it bye if you want to see a cool charity stream tune in tomorrow I'll probably start it noon are you gonna be lazy looking no try it try it but I'm not gonna do it I like it man it's crazy how much everything everything's super blue that's cool hey yeah that would eat every day we should actually submit this Rancho to an editor so when you put these on at the very end it like does a crazy effect just super enough for the people that made it to the end now all these people sing lazy Luke anyways come by check out the charity stream if you want it's gonna be awesome I don't know what the heck Jake is trying to say but it's fine you called me a ho these are relevant Oh hardly it's okay oh that's the most harsh thing influencer could say to you well I was dropping a reference back to the idubbbz rice come kind of deal no no that is it I'm going home Wow where is bye thanks for watching bye bye a charity stream twitch on TV / Lucarelli afar show up donate money to kids or just watch actually do it it's gonna be lots of cool games retro stuff yeah boom it works where'd you write on that napkin that you crumpled up lazy Lou looks at you and make to beYOU apparently I'm also supposed to say discord dot G g /l TT yeah nothing ended yet we were just doing the thank you - I fix it and thank you too Mac Weldon and thank you - ZOTAC so yeah I guess check out that discord we actually have an official discord now so check it out if you link your forum account you get access right away if you don't I think you have to wait 24 hours or something so link your forum account heck yeah sounds good and usually use the laser Jayma mote is not a thing yeah
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