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we'll never get uploaded I don't know about you but I'm having basically kind of the roughest week ever we killed the dual socket board Anthony yeah you killed the dual socket board that's Alex Alex killed the dual socket board Anthony got pulled out of the office on a particularly busy week for an event that ended up being a complete and utter waste of time thank you Intel i I just you know it's funny did the average viewer out there there seems to be this perception but when a company like invites you to a product event that it's like free travel you just got free travel in hotel you guys are so you guys sold out so hard like there's this perception but what they don't seem to realize is that it costs me money to have myself or someone else out of the office not just money but time time that I might have spent with my family spent clipping one of my toenails that's a little long right now and is kind of catching on the inside of my sock and there's a little uncomfortable you know the things that things that we might have wanted to that I might have wanted to do and in this case like I would I would actually prefer not just in this case but in most cases I would strongly prefer having a company get on the phone with me so I don't have to sit in an airport for three hours sit on a plane for anywhere from you know two to five hours sit in an airport for another half an hour waiting for my baggage and then do the whole thing all over again I would strongly prefer if they just got on a phone gave me a PowerPoint presentation where I can understand the product and just sent one over so we can test it in the comfort of our lab with all of our equipment and all of our staff that we can mount ideas off of all of that good stuff and you haven't even mentioned the opportunity cost of Anthony not being here Anthony being in an airport instead of being at his desk being productive exactly so audio issues persist is that where you're laughing / dying if you think the audios bad read my lips apparently it's very quiet that's all you're getting but we are weirdly we are getting all the way into the yellow territory so I don't know what to tell you I can't turn it out because it's gonna clip I can't do anything we're just gonna have to live with it this is your problem man turn it up when the ad comes on and blasts you and you get a noise complaint and a strata bill slash condo fee bill alright so anyway it has just been a rough week having people out ivenn sick this week alex is gonna be out next week so one of the videos that he was supposed to get done this week but he was busy breaking a motherboard didn't get done this week so it means we have to do more next week next week I'm gonna be out of the office two days actually we've got some really cool videos that we're gonna be shooting next week I love it when you're the office don't okay well on one of the days I am actually gonna be in the building I'm just gonna be really busy so I don't know if you guys remember the murder box yeah it was sort of an unfortunately named like boutique system integrator that existed around eight nine years ago anyway Charles the guy who was running it eventually decided to do just a case the MDP C X no X forma okay whatever I can't remember it's called it's freaking awesome though it looks incredible so he's got a full system built up in it including metal hard line tubing metal hard line tubing with like these gorgeous bends and stuff and what we're gonna be doing is we're gonna have him come into the studio and do like a teardown of it so it's gonna be kind of like like disassembling a supercar on camera it's gonna be badass like a supercomputer but not a supercomputer because that's the specific thing and it isn't that when I first saw that system I was like I didn't even know such things were possible like in Gladiator when they see it when he sees the Colosseum I didn't know men could build such things they weren't pc and gladiator times okay so let's jump into our first topic of the day this one is we talked about it a fair bit last week apparently my explanation of it was very confusing because a lot of the comments on the windshield last week were just saying that people were having a really hard time understanding what the crap it was that I was talking about exactly but the GeForce Partner Program Nvidia is claiming that this is all about reducing confusion for the consumer but according to an article written by yeah I know according to an article written by hard OCP it appears to be a means for Nvidia using its stranglehold over the supply of the GPU chips that its partners need to survive using that to basically force them to favor Nvidia products over AMD products in their marketing specifically in their marketing that talks directly about gaming so our source here is this was originally posted by clads in on the forum and the original article is from reddit seems to suggest although this is of course in our slash AMD so take it for what it is but seems to suggest that the first victim of the GeForce partner program may have already been unveiled so gigabyte just introduced a new AMD orden oriented external GPU box and the branding is different from their other external GPU box so we've actually got one of the GT X 1080 based ones and it uses the ARS branding while these new AMD based ones wow this is like a how deep do I have to go in these links to find the actual where is the there you go if the branding isn't just different it's just way way way more basic yeah so so worse and just rx 580 with that said it does have gaming in the title which hopefully is an indication that contrary to the rumor partners will at least be able to use like game or gaming in the branding for their AMD products that's a descriptive word isn't it MSI that the gaming is actually their line of gaming they won't be able to do that well the or they'll have to take a little TM off the top of it yeah so the rumor was though that Nvidia would be forcing their partners to actually rename product lines that had gaming in them for products that were not geforce so it's still a work in progress though because if you look at some of the Amazon links to these these products that have been otherwise D branded in physical form the Amazon titles still have those monikers in there like I'm assuming they're gonna be taken away eventually so maybe it's still like a role out here that we're witnessing yeah so it looks like there's some things that still haven't been updated so some Amazon product names apparently have been updated now not for insignias like ROG Strix and MSI gaming but for the actual product names themselves some have been updated and some of them haven't do you have any examples of that if you go to the forum thread there's a bunch of examples now not just the Auris one all right let's go ahead and pull that up here so update number two yes MSI seems to have removed all their gaming from AMD graphics cards only Nvidia ones have the gaming branding on them now let's see if we can find yeah this wow this thread is like really going here we go check this out no so this is an example of one that has not been changed yet so asus rog Strix radeon RX 560 now with that said one of the things that I would have to wonder is that given the the complicated nature of updating the name of a product that's out there in the wild already is it possible we're not seeing the full effect yet is it possible that in video would be waiting for like the next rollout of products like like a 600 series graphics cards you possibly retro actively like hey best buy hey Walmart update your product names on your websites I mean you could ask for it but I mean what there's so many channels yeah there's I mean there's the websites there's the little like tag on the actual shelf there's flyers that they would be working out on there's all kinds of promotional materials that would be very difficult to change and there's multiple marketplaces like Amazon isn't even in Australia presumably Australia has some other you tailor that's big they'd have to yeah I mean gay with is PC PC case geared the Amazon PC online I'm trying to remember who the big ones are down there wait why did I search for Amazon Australia it's just best really is on such a weak man like such a weak scorp tech is one of them that's one of our mods on the forum used to work at scorp tech but doesn't anymore so that's that's really all I know about them did you used to be Australian isn't anymore no no still Australian no still super Ostrom that can happen alright this was originally posted on the for me I have one question yes there I saw some fear you talked about the the supply that NVIDIA has on the market being a bit of a stranglehold do you think that applies to people like us influencers and media who don't want to speak out or disparage this move by Nvidia because they're afraid that they're not going to be sourced the GPUs that they rely on to make reviews an editorial content okay so that is a good question here's the thing NVIDIA has to if they're trying to create a competitive advantage for themselves they have to do so without creating a bunch of negative sentiment amongst the consumer base sort of I'm not actually convinced like NVIDIA I I would describe as sort of not the individuals that I know they're everyone that I know that works in Nvidia I really like on a personal level but to describe them corporately I would say they are a little bit Riggins but I'm not necessarily saying that they haven't that they haven't earned it in a sense like comes with a market share yeah it comes with having what I think it's like 75 percent market share or something like that and discrete graphics and that's in terms of unit sales not in terms of dollars which given that they have much higher end products than AMD has it this time are pretty significantly different so I'm not saying that they haven't kind of kind of earned it but we are the stewards of that right a minute right so here's the thing Nvidia doesn't really have to care about the sentiment now because at the end of the day what else are you gonna buy you know you can't find stock of anything so people are basically buying whatever they can get for one thing and for two and videos in a position where in certain segments they really are the only product that makes any sense especially at the high end so but but but with that said Nvidia still seems to somewhat care about their public image because you never know when an AMD might turn around and release something that turns the market on its head and if people had like this pent up negative sentiment towards Nvidia it could it could backfire on them then when you say at the high end what are you talking about are you talking about h EDT yeah yeah I'm talking about well that's if you're talking about likely Intel uses that terminology yeah if you're talking about server stuff then I don't does this really apply because this is isn't this about consumer grade yeah I'm talking about high-end consumer I mean AMD doesn't have anything competitive with the 1080 TI yeah all right and I mean as as for Vega Vega 56 and Vega 64 I mean even before the mining craze they they weren't they weren't that competitive like they were okay Vega 64 wasn't mega 56 was but you haven't been able to buy a Vega 56 like what where where are you supposed to get a Vega 56 and you really think that when they were deciding whether or not to to make this move and how to spin it and whether or not it would give them bad press they thought you know what right now nobody can buy anything cause a crypto they really considered the crypto mania and the availability of GPUs and they're like ah we can probably get away with this I think so so so I think that the timing is a big part of it and then I think the other thing is like why not try to get the press to buckle well it's because they have far less of an impact on our livelihood than they do on their partners who rely on them for chips like if so we I would be more worried about YouTube than I would about Nvidia if YouTube were the kind of company where I didn't feel like you know they could accept criticism as it is you know I can I can I can tell our YouTube rep stuff that I hate about the platform to his face and his job anyway is to take that feedback and actually try and make it actionable and try and try and improve things believe it or not YouTube does actually care where his client yeah it's it's where his client but he's also our you know that's that's actually an interesting way of looking at it so we're his client but were his client in a way we're in videos clients are not as much because Nvidia could just find someone else whereas once you reach a certain point as a creator in much the same way that YouTube doesn't really focus much attention on the small creators that that are replaceable they do focus attention on the big ones that are difficult to replace well I think from invidious perspective pretty much everyone can be replaced at this point like they've literally done it XFX used to be a major nvidia partner especially in north america back in the day it was like 1 2 EVGA XFX now ever since XFX defected to AMD back in i think it was the 4000 serious days don't put me on that might've been 3000 series anyway back then ever since then and video basically went well ok you know where if you're gonna defect if you're gonna go from being exclusive Nvidia remember this was at a time when in video was in pretty rough shape with some hot running cards it didn't perform that well if you they're gonna turn tail and run into the arms of AMD good luck with that we'll just find someone else to replace you and they did when BFG disappeared so BFG was another sort of talked to your partner for Nvidia in North America one of their big things was that they offered a lifetime warranty when Nvidia discs are one BFG disappeared Nvidia didn't you know they didn't run out and try and find you know try and like quietly fund through you know venture capital someone to take over the brand and continue it they just kind of went yeah them's the breaks and if you think about it that has been the strategy with board partners since the dawn of time like I could probably name half a dozen board partners off the top of my head who existed at one point at least in North America and don't anymore let's try well there's a PFT so I already got that one there is chain tech there's another one there is let me think gain word there's another one gain word used to be like kind of like halo halo tear products a bit I think dabbled in GPUs at one point they're gone entirely now from the motherboard business - dang is that all I got that's pretty good shoot I think that's all I've got I mean and then there's like there's like the really old stuff like like back when like 3d labs I think used to do graphics cards but I don't think they ever did in video ones for ati firegl diamond oh yeah diamond multimedia sorry that's the one that I was thinking not 3d labs diamonds okay whatever that's fine that's fine then I did have to Google one of them so it's kind of cheating but that's not really the point the point is I think Nvidia is in a position where they feel like they need their partners a lot less than someone like YouTube apparently does with us so let's see how this continues to play out so they still have that power and they don't really care it doesn't matter this the sentiment is a drop in the bucket compared to the power of their market position so yeah but I think that they are I think that they wouldn't also risk going to press directly with some with some kind of an agreement that you can only mention gaming with Nvidia products and then a gag order if you talk about it because if they ever showed something like that to anyone in the press it would be out there yeah let's remember that it was AMD who originally kind of leaked this or let it be known because the press has so much less to lose within video like worst case scenario I've got to buy a half a dozen graphics cards a year I mean at the rate that we're going lately with them releasing like two three graphics cards every year bleh it's not even that bad so yeah sure whatever go buy a video yeah but I used to buy video cards but the price of those video cards okay that's true - Media Group's bankrupt had to buy three graphics cards : really Colton's got fired he's laid off alright why don't we why don't we jump into one of our one of our quick ones let me talk with this one you want to talk about the first put oh I've been following this since it broke alright hold on we'll talk about that in a minute first we got to talk about our sponsors for the day they might be behind us you're vegetarian right yeah so I'm the only one eating savage turkey today yeah that's a real shame cuz it's pretty 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to decide which components you want to cool down with water and all the products not only come with blocks and tubing all be assembled they actually come with water and really high-quality quick disconnects I believe these are some colder yeah I don't actually say on it but I'm pretty sure when I looked into the best quick connects way back when I was doing like system development back at NCIX I came across these they're super expensive but they're like they lose like point one or like point zero one mils or something like that like when you take them apart basically just the surfaces are damp to the touch and that's it Wow and the flow drop is you know it's measurable sure it's significant but it'sit's not that bad compared to other design it's really cool it like bridges the gap between the super simple AI oh yeah to the more intense enthusiast ones I like it so it's enthusiast performance but with AI o simplicity so they come prefilled so you can just clip them together and the CPU cooling module and GPU cooling module can be connected to the radiator core module in any order separately or together so you can check that out an e KY ekw be calm or through the link in the video description bringing us to our last sponsor wait where did where did this thing go it's behind you yes yes oh and behind me as well are you gonna are you gonna do the demo like is this setup I think the plan is to do a demo oh okay oh well is this is this spoiling the video alright not fine doing good okay so our third sponsor for today is Sewell direct their HD link HL 24 HDMI over any two conductors product allows you to use whatever cable you've already got somewhere like maybe you've already got wires running through a wall or whatever you can use any two cables to send an HDMI signal it's gone up to a two-mile range with a good conductor and it can work on literally anything that is conductive so James is about to demo it we hope in water so we've got a laptop behind me James is in the way of it so it's kind of hard for you guys to see I think you just can't see it it's way over there oh look you can see the keyboard there you got a laptop we've got a wire right here going into a tray of water and then we've got blinky green light is this just on the wrong input they'd be then we've got James trying to do a live demo any time you try and do a live demo it doesn't work it's like it's got to be like some kind of law Colton did you that's not cool Wow not gonna be your problem it wasn't even set to duplicate oh eh do mine well we've got a video coming where we did have it working it's receiving signal the problem is the monitor that's weird why yeah definitely we're getting enough for sure here we go yeah no no that's cuz I power cycle though doing no I don't know I don't know why it's not working is it trying to run it not 1080p or something like I don't know what's going on here alright in the meantime why don't I do another topic do you want to do you want to try and fix it or oh oh we've got the monitor we used yesterday right there go alright next up this is apparently old news but the Xbox one is getting free sync the original article here is from Forbes let's go ahead and pull that up and this is absolutely huge news from my perspective I'm so thrilled about this because on the PC side of things if you're not able to hit 60 frames per second then okay like that sucks but worst case scenario there is a solution you can spend more money I guess I know that's one of the criticisms of PC gaming is that it's kind of a sinkhole when it comes to how much you can end up spending on it but at least there is a solution with a console if you want to play some kind of a console exclusive and it happens to have you know hitches and the anima animations or it happens to not run completely smoothly at 60fps some games are coming out that do actually allow you to alter the detail levels but not everything does so this is great the Xbox 1s and the Xbox one acts are both going to get free sync support so on a supported display with HDMI 2.1 you'll be able to use free sync 2 which means that if you to dip in your framerate the TV's refresh rate will actually drop to match it perfectly which has a real world very significant benefit to the smoothness of the animations now right now James when we recorded this initially the first time because we had to restart the show a couple of times due to audio issues James brought up that right now there are no TVs on the market with support for the HDMI 2.1 but you know from my perspective you have to start somewhere and I mean I would I yeah okay so that is a bit of a drag I'll give you that but you got to start somewhere and at least this gives us an opportunity to move towards that in the future I mean especially trying to run like games at 4k on you know nothing against the Xbox 1x great console got a really positive review here but trying to run games at 4k on anything is demanding right now and trying to run them on the Xbox one X is well particularly demanding this has the potential to be a real game-changer in terms of animation smoothness on consoles that actually leads kind of nicely into another topic we have here which is that the Nvidia g-sync 4k 144 Hertz monitor is that you may have seen at CES last year in 2017 but which were subsequently delayed are supposed to finally being being released in April but the question why I think this is there was a good segue there is like what the heck what card are you gonna use to run something in 4k at 144 Hertz right now the only Oh at 144 Hertz oh nothing like you're not gonna get anything yeah it's the frame rate about hi to use it's kind of a funny product because it's like it's kind of like the product for no one so it's high frame rate or a high refresh rate for like eSports titles but then no one playing League of Legends is actually running at 4k like you you just you just wouldn't do that why would you like I would rather if I was a pro gamer if I was a programmer I'm not if I was I would rather have 240 Hertz at 1080p and from my understanding a lot of pros don't actually prefer these gigantic large format displays because it actually makes it so that they can't see everything that they need to see at once it seems to me like it's just the first product that has this suite of features that they're all gonna have eventually they're just first yeah and then the flip side of that is if you're more into like the sightseeing games you don't need the refresh rate you don't need that refresh rate because you're not gonna be running those kinds of games at more than like 60 frames per second now with that said though we don't know how the upcoming GPUs whether it be they ampere or Volta or whatever Nvidia ends up calling their GTX I guess whatever they end up calling them we don't know how powerful they're gonna they're gonna be so that might be even the Buffalo Bacon's got a little bit of spice and it kind of went down my windpipe there I'm good I'm okay I'm not gonna die on one gel I don't know anything about why these monitors were delayed but could it have been to do with the HDMI 2.1 spec like is this thing gonna use two cables or wow these are DisplayPort so as far as I know and this is just based on rumors that I read on the Internet as far as I know it has to do with delays - in videos latest g-sync module ok you know what I think I giveaway was 144 Hertz correct me if I'm wrong but I think even hdmi 2.1 is max out of 120 that might be right back check that I'm still alive I'm still alive everyone's like rip lgt in the chat no I'm still alive I'm okay well then all right in the meantime why don't we go on to your big your big topic here well so this happened I was supposed to buy delicious on the forum the original article here is from rt.com the first pedestrian death has been not just like it's not just happened but has been recorded from a self-driving car well naturally the thing this is really sad so 49 year-old Elaine Herzberg was struck by the self-driving Oberer last Sunday night at 10:00 p.m. it was dark out she was crossing the street with her bike in Tempe Arizona naturally a lot of these self-driving car testing projects are in Arizona they made some attractive terms for to attract companies and they have pretty nice weather it's kind of easier the car was going 40 miles per hour an hour which is 65 kilometers and this is an SUV it's a Volvo xc90 SUV so there was a backup safety net kind of driver a human driver in the vehicle and when the story broke we didn't have the footage of what the camera saw the dashcam footage as it were so we didn't know why didn't the backup driver react well I didn't the human driver hit the brakes how was it possible that this woman was struck the original details were just like irrelevant things like it was dark out and she wasn't a crosswalk neither of those had any impact of whether or not the car should stop so Bella dine lidar said it won't be advising its customers to halt tests in the wake of this death because they don't believe the accident was due to the lidar which often it works even better at night due to less interference less noise they think it's possible they don't design the software Hoover does so it's possible that it's how the data was handled in the software end it's still unknown why the car didn't stop when the dashcam footage was released it became clear that there was if the dashcam footage looks like what it really looked like that night there's no way a human could have reacted she basically is not there and then they're like she is crossing the street like in a shadow or something like that even though the driver there's interior car footage and you can see that the driver is looking down and not paying attention even if they were paying attention there's nothing they could do and a lot of the media was focusing on the driver and how this person has like a previous criminal record and whether or not boobers like policies like should have hired them it's completely irrelevant what we were wondering now it's like obviously this is a big setback for the self-driving car community in industry and what's gonna happen in California California was about to initiate programs like this there so it might take a little longer so uber has halted tests in San Francisco Phoenix Pittsburgh and Toronto man like so here's the thing on the one hand you're gonna have the I forget the terms for them but you're gonna have the the the pragmatists that are gonna go well you know what's one human life in the grand scheme of how many can be saved in an autonomous future but I'll chariot thank you but on the other hand if this was like my kid like there's no no amount of no no amount of like other people getting to survive in the future does anything to make this any better for me and from my perspective like I'm reading an article like this and this is us someone who really wants to see self-driving cars succeed and wants to buy one as soon as humanly possible I'm glad they're not allowing testing here in my neighborhood you know as soon as I read this I go well I'm glad this is being I'm glad someone else is the guinea pig and maybe that's the wrong way to think about it but well this is exactly why I said her name and age in this story here because when I posted this on my Twitter when it first broke it was like I expected a lot more varied comments than I got the only comments were like you know in the future it'll be good but this is like a real person so regardless of state to say the tests that occur without a driver present in the car which are I believe legally allowed in Arizona yeah but we're on the cusp of being allowed in California are gonna be delayed man that's rough uh in other news Oh Congress passes cesta slash FASTA which sounds like like like kind of like a hip bill that's like a pasta bill you know it's like pretty foster you man yeah awesome actually we should start using it as like a cuss word yo that's pretty fast asan okay yeah I'm down yeah I think Foster this should mean good like geebo means bad like oh that is some fastest no you think it's good faster faster yeah I could see cess by just saying like zesty yeah but that okay yeah no come on man this is a bill that ostensibly curbs online sex trafficking but there are some critics that say it's gonna increase online censorship stifle innovation and make everyone less safe online so progress past it it's just they're just waiting for presidents Trump's signature for it to come along I can't imagine him not signing anything that he can list in like his accomplishments like I actually think he would sign anything mind you with that said I think the the news that I looked at most recently said that he'd might not sign the the bill that funds the government for the next year or whatever the omnibus bill or whatever they're calling it right anyway whole other whole other conversation so here's here's the here's the issue that they okay so on the one hand if we're actually preventing human trafficking by by creating what is in effect sort of a responsibility on these websites for the content that B is being posted by third parties if we are actually helping people by doing that that's a good thing the problem is that what this creates is a burden on website owners and operators to be responsible for everything that is posted on their sites not just everything that is present on their sites on an ongoing basis but everything that is posted on their sites and as someone who hosts a user-submitted content forum I can tell you right now it is basically freakin impossible to police every single thing that someone might post on a website Craigslist has already removed its personal section for fear of a cesta transgression that would affect the entire site which demonstrates right there that the community is interpreting this as too heavy of a touch to do you want a risk yeah to even want to want to like have a chance of running afoul of and that's a big part of their website the personals ad is a is not a trivial part of Craigslist really tell me more oh you know that's how we met no I don't think we posted our a job posting on Craigslist and what certainly wasn't impersonal job posting oh boy and then so the argument though is that well you know if you have a site you should be responsible for what's on it and so you know companies like Facebook or Twitter for example might be able to build you know AI or algorithmic protection mechanisms to keep offensive content from being posted but one of the arguments against cestus that says it could stifle innovation is that small companies like say for example floatplane Media Inc might not what's that might not have access to expert lawyers and the same kinds of monitoring algorithms that a large company would and might just run the risk of having to say you know what look we can't afford to get buried in legal fees because we're like enabling online sex trafficking because like something went up on our site and we didn't see it for 20 minutes and they might just shut down which could hurt the ability of the next Facebook competitor to spring up out of nowhere which I mean you know I don't think anyone sees anything on the horizon like that but putting more barriers in place is not the solution and and I can tell you right now like it's already challenging so floatplane had a heck of a time getting credit card payments approved first the payment processor and this is all because of their underwriting bank that was requesting all this crap anyway blockchain so their pit so their payment processor wanted to see a finished site before they would give us access to the actual API hooks to integrate into the site bit of a chicken and egg thing isn't it what are you develop a whole site and then have a payment processor go and say you know that blue that's a little too blue um you know we're gonna pass we're just gonna pass so they wanted that then we had to get on this conference call with them where we had to explain a couple of things number one is how we were going to write how we were going to monitor user posted content and we're kind of sitting here going well like it's it's it's us like our sister company and like our friend Kyle that are uploading to right now like I don't think this is gonna be an issue that count like comments are under that umbrella are they not yes but comments are a little bit easier to moderate because you can but again though it comes down to imposing on websites the the the restriction that you'll just have to kind of narrow down like you'll have to effectively make the comments a little less open and a little less free because we could crack down on people being able to post gifs for example or we could crack down on people being able to post links links those are those are pretty easy ways to keep you know traffic and a spam filter for certain diction yep um but but that will that will make an effect our comments more sensor than we otherwise might have preferred to have them so anyway the other than the other thing we wanted to know is what our plan was to keep adult content off the site Merc is sitting here going look I'm not gonna name any names because I'm just it's just been it has really been that kind of week um I hope he's been fine I don't great good so I just don't like I don't want to I want to get into it but we're kind of going ok hey there's nothing in your Terms of Service this is anything about adult content for one thing to which their response was well we can't keep our Terms of Service updated at all times I can't go what are you what are you talking about they're like well you know that's why we have us to explain the internal terms of service to people and I'm like so you have internal terms of surface and external terms of service here's an idea why don't you just have one terms of so what else is on that internal terms of service great question what it would it would a tremendous question that you have well what a great audience yeah um and so we want one okay you don't have that in your Terms of Service and two we know for a fact that there's at least one major site that does offer adult content that uses you as a payment processor and has for years more that's why what is the deal and anyway after the whole the whole interrogate interview process we did manage to get approved we're getting the code integrated naturally the sandbox API is totally doesn't jive with the actual one so it wasn't just plug and play like it's supposed to be but that's why Luke's not here he's working clean that right now but we're hoping to have credit card processing working pretty soon but but anyway coming back to cesta Fausta the issue here is that putting more barriers in in the way of small online companies has a real impact like every week that we spend dicking around with some kind of regulatory thing is another week that we can't be developing products and services that make creators and their viewers happy and it's very frustrating with that said you know the human trafficking is a travesty and a living nightmare for the people that are involved in it well on the one end of it not the other end I don't think I think they're probably probably sleep fine at night somehow and you know you want to see something done about it but it just doesn't really seem like this is it here's another non-answer there are an on way to go this is kind of related have you seen this this is state legislation pending in Rhode Island which would force Internet service providers to block sexual content by default until the Internet user does the following requests in writing that the capability be disabled presents identification to verify that that particular user is 18 years old or older acknowledges receiving like you've got to wait for something to mail that receive a written warning regarding the potential danger of deactivating the digital blocking capability of this sexual content and page twenty bucks as a digital access fee I don't know about you but if I really wanted to look at porn on the internet hey I wouldn't pay $20 for it and be I could not wait that long and yes we didn't talk about this last week all right well it still sucks for anyone in Rhode Island all right so this is supposed to by sc2 Mitch on the forum Elon Musk has gotten involved in hashtag no way so the original article here is from the Guardian hit us with the facts on this well this is lazer James this is the deep context source this is like if you don't know why Facebook's in trouble to begin with we're going here so what happened was Facebook sees itself as a platform instead of just an ad company so they don't care about giving away tons of personal data which would be very valuable to an ad company like Google they don't mind giving that away to developers who are gonna develop Facebook apps because they want to be a platform like Microsoft so what they did starting around 2010 was if you're building an app for Facebook you can get access to a ton of profile data and not just data from the people who use these apps but data from their friends so what happened was a psychologist professor at Cambridge made an app paid a couple hundred thousand people to take a survey which is what the app was for thereby getting access to all those users data on Facebook and all their friends which amounted to about 50 million different profiles worth of personal data that data then was against Facebook Terms of Service given to Cambridge analytical a company it's against the Terms of Service because once you get this data you're not allowed to use it for any advertising purpose which is what Cambridge analytical ended up doing they use it to make highly targeted ads to target these people in a very specific way all these 50 million people they served ten thousand different nuanced ads to to kind of sway the American election well attempt to attempt to sway it can't prove it worked we don't know we're not experts so now this has all come to light Facebook's in trouble a famous hashtag delete Facebook has been started by one of the people who benefited tremendously from Facebook the founder one of the cofounders of whatsapp Brian Acton he started delete Facebook hashtag he and then Elon Musk uh called out about the delete Facebook hashtag and he said oh that exists okay let's just take down our SpaceX and Tesla Facebook pages which they've done and we don't know if musk is trolling cuz he kind of does that or if he believes in the cause or what in other news we got rekt by gamers Nexus what the heck what you talking about look at this we were number five serve gunslinger and gamers Nexus all knocked us off of the leaderboard for the NVIDIA Titan be-what leaderboard is this this is 3d mark on sly extreme Oh that rat bastard hmm well no promises that will take another crack at it but I don't like seeing I don't like seeing that Canadian flag all the way down there that's no fun that's weak sorry this everyone's up 7 baby yeah dude yes but-- oh but no penalty no comments on the Facebook thing it was quite a segue you just handed me um no I don't I don't really have anything to say on that one apparently the audio is a mess again I don't even know I don't even know what to tell people um I want talk about ray-tracing no I don't know elses day you know what I'm done all right I got enough in this week so goodbye forever until next week same bat-time same bat-channel goodbye