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Even Intel is Impressed by AMD's Progress - WAN Show June 28, 2019

2019-06-28
BAM done whoo welcome to the Rancho ladies and gentlemen if you have any issues viewing the stream go ahead over to twitch.tv slash Linus tech it seems to be working just fine on Twitch we have done as much diagnosis as we can while the stream was offline and as far as we can tell we have no idea yeah it started working on a test Channel and it looks like it's still a little borked right now yeah so that's pretty sweet I don't know yeah so there you go it's just doing the same thing it just yeah well it was yellow for a while at first on the test stream as well so we don't know it doesn't say anything Jake hovering over it does nothing it just says okay viewers may be experiencing minor issues and then it'll probably turn green again it was green while everyone was complaining last time so we are gonna start over we've got a great show for you guys today the big news I mean oh yeah Johnny I've is leaving Apple but it's also not the end of the world because he is going to continue I be involved ok yeah so Apple might be ok I guess or I mean it depends on whether you think Apple is ok now okay you know what about it more later Intel Intel's internal memo reveals that they are impressed by AMD's progress now that is a high praise indeed that is for it to be in an internal memo that's pretty high praise but again like I said before we killed the stream internal memos are basically just blog post now have you read the memo though no it's pretty impressed we'll talk we'll talk about it most of our also known this was going to hit media and going to hit AMD yeah I guess I I don't understand what they could possibly yeah okay we'll talk about it more later yep I'm sleep or 2.0 spec announced and it's amazing and probably I'm assuming still won't work at good distances and a laser can identify people based on heartbeat out over 600 feet away which sounds not creepy at all I love that intro role that intro loom this headphones is that closing active I don't know right oh they're fuckin way back there we got this so today's brought you by savage jerky madrenas and Squarespace oh here comes a train that's what we needed yeah that's what we needed more more issues okay yeah perfect so it's Friday ladies I will say in the amazing video that I don't know if it's on YouTube or not yet but the high refresh rate gaming video yes that actually hit YouTube yesterday the train segment was hilarious that actually happens far more often around here than you guys would probably think I mean it's one of those challenging things where the only place that you can find affordable commercial real estate go figure happens to be next to the train tracks because nobody wants to live there because nobody wants trains rolling by all times of the night and day when they're trying to sleep or gold out their daily lives yeah it's just something that we have to deal with because I don't even I don't even know if there is any industrial no nutrition not near either train tracks or like a superhighway superhighway heavy trucking Road yeah something like that yeah so anywhere where you're where you're gonna have a ton of noise pollution that's where you stick your commercial zoning at least here in the in the Vancouver area so the reason the reason that it was particularly bad in that video and that it interrupted us more than it normally would like sometimes we would just roll through it like right now the trains going you guys can't really hear it was because in order to shoot high refresh rate video we had to have the bay doors open to get as much natural sunlight in as we possibly could that's why it was a problem interesting so every time you double your frame rate you lose an f-stop is that right Brandon lose a stop yeah okay so when you go from 30fps which is what we normally shoot at 260 you lose a stop when you go to 120 you lose another you go to 240 you lose another you go to 480 you lose another then you go again to a thousand you lose yet another one so by the time you turn something up to a thousand frames per second if you were trying to use the same lights that we're using right now at 30 frames per second you're basically King at a dark frame yeah like there's not much left actually could we could we compare that or could we yeah yeah like do we have enough apertures on this camera this is great oh hey we got the readout on OBS so everyone used to see that that's kind of cool nice okay so we're here yep this is 30 frames per second so there's a stop so remember this is going from 30 to 60 okay so now we're at 120 this is what it would look like at 240 that's what it would look like at 500 frames per second and then this is what that's a recording ACK so guys to put that into the proper context it looks so bright now the on screen displays oh yeah do you mind Brendan thank you so to put that in context right now we're shooting with two six-foot softboxes in order to well look natural so I so yeah so you basically need direct sunlight now normally when you're shooting in direct sunlight you would actually apply what's called a neutral density filter ND filter directly to the front of the lens in order to block out a ton of the light but when it's high refresh rate you're dealing with you want as much light as you can possibly get even with as much natural light as we could get some of it was still pretty dark especially in the upcoming mouse latency testing video that we'll be releasing in the next little bit here people are discussing apertures Oh like Aperture Science we didn't turn monitoring off those headphones are still clearly used yeah hopefully unplug them not a problem yeah I could I said around the back oh sorry I thought I was on the front no it's way around the back okay that's oh boy oh geez I'm just gonna like bury them put them under your shirts okay cool shut up okay sounds good this is the problem I run into whenever I'm not the one who sets things up because it's like it's not complicated it's just you know which which audio source is map to which output but like if I didn't do it I don't know exactly the way that someone else configured it yeah and there's also hardware ways to do that with our setups it's like your dad setting up your home theater system in the 90s like no one's allowed to touch it you know Logitech Harmony remote changed my life because it's relatively speaking once you get your IR blasters position that's the main challenge is getting your IR blasters in all the right places so that it actually consistently activates and deactivates things also I had to contact Logitech support to change I think it was either my TV or receiver I had to get them to add the menu option for power on and power off instead of a toggle no it was my home theater PC that's what it was so the only option by default is power toggle and as if anyway if you've ever used a universal remote before you'll know why that's a freaking problem yeah because as soon as it D synchronizes every time you try to turn this on turn it turns it off yeah and you you end up in this stupid flip-flop you have to get up off your butt which is what you didn't want to do always play video games or watch TV yeah you have to get up off your butt and go manually turn it on and off and so so hit this I complained about this they went oh yeah that's a known issue we have to go into your harmony account and add that option for you and I went that's not a solution so yes my home theater works perfectly but can I recommend a harmony remote to someone else who has a media PC as part of their TV setup no I can't because that is a phenomenally stupid solution to the problem that should just be an option because for pretty much everything else in my setup so I could decide what the activity was so for your activity you can decide what the commands it sends out okay so my TV has power on or power off or toggle I can decide and what that's when you launch and when you end the activity you can tell it which ones to do but for whatever reason PC didn't have that option at least when I said so as someone who never nomads how to Harmony remote why do you even have to tell it that it's a PC well when you you have to tell it it's a PC because whenever it takes the IR input which is watch PC is what I call mine so watch PC it then needs to blast out one after the other all the things that go with it so it has to say receiver fire up receiver change to this input re and then it has to go TV fire up TV make sure you're on this input then it goes PC wake from sleep so it has to know what that code is supposed to be okay so so mad because I was like holding my old Microsoft media center remote and I was like okay we have on and we have off so clearly those codes exist because some devices don't have it yeah and that's just a problem on the device level yeah so it so basically if you want to recommend this to anyone of the home theater PC you have to say buy it like before you even leave the store or no you'd have to set up an account you have to get home and part of the account creation process is cause I'm gonna have to yeah you're just gonna have to get now in Logitech's defense the harmony support team was excellent okay but it still made me really mad that I had to talk to them to do another thing that I should be able to do within the menu talking to anybody makes me mad so like totally hear you why don't we move into like the big news this week yeah Johnny I've leaving Apple so for those not familiar he's the bald guy with the Brita accent in the commercials yeah unapologetically plastic guy yeah so he's he's their chief design or was chief design officer he's leaving the company Apple announced it on Thursdays that's yesterday he's considered and you know I guess it depends who you ask I'm sure there's by many people I'm sure there's lots of people internally at Apple we're like yeah maybe it's time to move on you know it depends who you ask I suppose but he's considered one of the most important people at Apple responsible for the industrial design and the look and feel of all major Apple products including the iPod iPhone and the Mac which really raises the question all the other people there do ya know I'm serious design department yeah I'm actually serious right now because they have so many designers it's it may be like taking his ideas and actually creating them like does he just draft ideas maybe and here's another question Apple doesn't actually have that many products or okay another thing okay to be fair about with Apple as they seem to over credit individuals really hard core right so that like this individual person is responsible for everything that happens a lot with Apple so maybe he's the chief design officer so maybe he ran those things for all major products but I have that's not the way that it gets communicated I completely agree but that has been a thing with Apple for a long time so either Apple basically runs on like eight people yeah or there's maybe something else going on because this has been true for like the history of Apple so anyway sure people are gonna be on me including an iPod iPhone and Mac so he's worked at Apple for more than 20 years and he's gonna start his own design business called love from with capital L capital F which I'm sure is very important extremely an Apple will be his first client so he says while I will not be an employee I will still be very involved I hope for many many years to come he doesn't have an immediate successor so yeah sure thing there's a couple of åland I Evans Hankey will report to Jeff Williams the Apple's chief operating officer while I've reported directly to Tim Cook there was a note in here that says I've was first noticed by returning CEO Steve Jobs because of his colorful design concept of the iMac so was he the like carry it by the handle colourful transparent iMac guy if I recall correctly yes that makes sense in terms of timeline yeah gosh I'm old okay no so anyway that's both a big deal and then also sort of a nothing burger just because he's still gonna work with Apple he's just hot take I don't think they've had very inspiring design for a while well okay so this is where I okay so this is where it gets kind of so I say a lot that I feel like Apple products are designed for people who don't have a lot to do so if you look oh okay hold on yeah quick pause sure when's that competition happening uh oh not for a few weeks I think okay yeah so what he's referring to is the editing showdown Jonathan Morrison from TLD is going to be coming up here to compete in an editing showdown with our very own Taryn van humored it was just obvious like you guys should have a like quick hot takes about the other platform thing before the competition like independently so Taryn and Jonathan will make their own comments but I am not there to editorialize oh I will be mostly hosting the showdown oh cool that's cool we also are working on absolute celebrity judges oh god I'm not going to comment on their status yet because I don't want there to be any like pressure on them or anything but I have certainly reached out for the premier side of things we we wanted a panel of four judges two that are more steeped in final the final cut ecosystem okay and two that are more premier folks okay and so I have reached out to Eber from Hardware connects as well as Niko from the corridor digital crew oh cool and I have received receptive responses from both but neither of them are confirmed okay so I would love to have them on our panel of celebrity judges but it's always complicated coordinating people with such busy schedules oh yeah here in the studio difficult angle it really and I don't blame them at all I totally got it because my schedule is stupid I literally have no idea when he's in the country or not okay so back to my back to my point about Apple products seemingly being designed for people who don't have a lot to do have you ever used Apple's calendar app no it's utterly worthless than you really like you you just Google counters great you can't even Google calendar okay so yeah that's good so even Google calendar compared to there's a third-party app called business calendar that's only available for Android it's not available on iOS and it is full beast mode like tiny text you can configure it this way you can have like tiny text so you can actually read everything and you can actually tell what the hell you're looking at meeting coordination in Google Calendar is fantastic though yes so that's the main thing I like using it for Apple's calendar app by comparison simply has no way to configure it with the same degree of display density okay so it seems to make the assumption that you either don't have a lot on your plate or you have all the time in the world to drill down and look at things oh you mean like okay I thought you meant in terms of one like you want to be able to read everything of one task but you mean you can read your entire day by making it all really sure you can read the entire month like all the agenda items for that day from the month view on this business calendar app and it's just it's a whole other level like I I was telling Yvonne because she had issues with she had some issues with Android cuz let's face it there are some issues with Android yeah she had some issues with Andrew and I said look why don't you try an iPhone for a bit and she tried it and she was like this is completely unusable because there isn't a replacement she tried every calendar apps i OS also really annoying I have to carry one now and it won't stop yelling at me and vote Apple pay yeah yeah I know right and like everything else it's like hey you should use this feature I'm gonna pop up ten million times I don't want this to turn into a rant about iOS yeah but if you don't have a sim in it there's no way to disable the hey there's no sim installed I know you're an iPod right now okay I don't know buddy right past butter deal with it it cannot handle that's like no I am i phone yeah I am a phone where is your SIM card I deserve a SIM card I was born with sim card privilege so yeah oh yeah look at this asteroid week says our asteroid says week mode and business calendar is the best yeah yeah pretty much is so it's pretty waiting so I end up I end up with this sort of observation almost every time I go to use an Apple product because the amount of sort of manual drilling down of things just annoys me and you know what iPad OS looks like it's going to address a lot of my complaints about iOS on a large screen device iPad has been very I seems determined to resurrect this sort of I won't say failing but I will say stumbling business unit they've had a really hard time convincing anyone who already has an iPad that they should get a new one and that's been my I still the only tablet in my house is an iPad 2 because a lot of the things are gonna do with it doesn't really matter you can still do it just be fine put the kids in front of it when I need a break that's basically it's only you entertain the young one like and the thing to use nerds I don't even use it for that that often but it's still perfect for that because it's an iPad so you leave it for two weeks and the batteries still alive you can never do that with an Android tablet yeah and so the very occasional time that I use it it's ready to rock and I can take a nap the nap machine the nap machine this machine creates the eye net that would actually be an adorable commercial they would never do that Apple's marketing collateral is all about what a creative intellectual person their product turns you know but like you know like getting a rest it would be cool if they just named it like a million different things and they could even go back to that like put the eye there and then rotate the word and think of like like for this person it's the eye nap and it creates naps for them for someone else that's like the I create and they can throw that yeah crap in and then for someone else it's its eye game whatever I feel like that could be actually kind of energy they would never do it would never do it speaking of things I thought they would never do Intel internal memo reveals they're impressed by AMD's progress yeah this is kind of hilarious as well so I'm gonna try and bring up the actual memo because it's freaking awesome okay yeah here it is on tech power up if you guys want to read the whole thing make sure you head over there but basically here we go we are now entering the latest chapter of the tech industry single long running business rivalry Intel and AMD have been competing for many of the same chip customers for more than 50 years oh wait no this is dangit this is tech power-ups introduction where's a Intel's thing following a muse blah blah oh here it is why AMD is now a formidable competitor Wow is actually not alone a subheading in the internal memo that alone is huge right oh man so they basically go yeah they've had two years of greater than twenty percent annual revenue growth thanks basically to Rison and epic and then they pretty much attribute it not entirely but a big part of it to the strategic refocus on premium high performance products now I do have to look at that and go I feel like it's a little bit oversimplified and more even misleading yeah I'm sure if AMD could have built high performance products five years ago they would have they just had nothing yeah like they had straight-up nothing a link until right now I mean it's not like it's not like Zen doesn't scale down to low performance products they can do a quad-core processor if they want yeah I mean okay back to a particularly dark time in AMD's history they could build a tri core processor basically what did - yeah they just don't those are they're not stuck making just that like it scales down just fine the issue was they just had nothing anyway back to back to the art and back to the memo though so key AMD competitive threats are from high-end products I also think that's kind of that's kind of another funny one because what do you mean by high-end products specifically the key AMD threat is across your entire product stack all the way from like hundred to two hundred dollar CPUs which last I checked is pretty low-end yeah all the way to many core data center products which yes is a high-end product maybe what they're referring to here specifically was AMD's focus on AP use because that was the whoops AMD's focus on AP use because that was the only thing that they could build that had competitive performance and only because their onboard graphics were so much better than intel's not because the cpu cores were competitive maybe that's what they mean by this but like i think again that's a little misleading because almost everything intel's built in the last few years on the consumer side is an APU by AMD's definition yeah the height of the APU wore was kind of a pretty weird time it was a very weird time because everyone wanted to like I think people wanted to support AMD so everyone would flex the APU GPU performance yeah and then no one would run it that way because it wasn't really good enough for almost anything so really awkward time uh hi ed what can I do for you how badly do you need them we can get that next week cool cool thanks dad okay so let's let's have a look at some of the other some of the other subheadings here so you man this like this is like a scary time to be Intel like I can see why they're sending out this memo it's like look guys we have to acknowledge this stuff AMD has recently been gaining some traction and winning public cloud offerings that's a pretty big deal yeah AMD's upcoming next generation Zen core products codename Rome for servers and matisse for desktop will intensify our desktop and especially server competition intensify the forward firepower [Laughter] the latter is likely to be the most intense in about a decade which is another way of saying AMD had nothing for 10 years yeah and it's true okay I mean they're even acknowledging the notebook and the notebooks and business PC competition that's incredible now this is again sort of misleading by leveraging tsmc 7 nanometre manufacturing and be no longer manufactures its own chips they got to get that in there and II can drive hiring troops and higher performance now they they acknowledge it later on in the memo but that's not really the main reason that AMD is able to drive higher core counts and performance yes Global Foundries did stumble we know this but AMD wasn't on TSM C 7 nanometre node for rise in Gen 1 and risin Gen 1 was a return to competition really it just has more to do with AMD's modular approach to their core design that is a big part of the reason that AMD can drive higher core counts and AMD has been driving higher core counts than Intel for a couple of years now the big thing that's happening now is the IPC improvements with Xen 2 that are making these many core desktop processors now competitive even in single threaded tasks allegedly this is all still based on AMD data and/or Leakes what can I do for you oh yes here's a prompter remote Thank You Dennis so one thing that I think is kind of going on in parallel to this is intel's community communication and marketing whatever you want to call it not necessarily PR to the masses because it seemed to be pretty on top of at the very least communicating with enterprise level stuff but enterprise level stuff other than trust in terms of it will work doesn't really care that much nope they'll use a lot of these so the thing that you guys got to understand is for a consumer they buy something with the expectation that it has already been validated for them if you're designing a supercomputer like if we were to go to the very very high end of the enterprise space if you're designing a supercomputer you are in some ways expecting the hardware to have problems and you aren't expecting that you are that you are engineering a solution around them as part of your design process that's the reason why you'll see the latest supercomputer spinning up when there's literally a generation newer hardware available to consumers or to the SMB market or whatever the case may be because that design process happened you know 18 to 24 months ago so yes they get early access to the hardware so that they can work on this design but there's there's only like there's only so much you can do look this look is just not finished yet yeah but I think I think I noticed something so I went to a lot of conventions I got pax is like crazy no it's kind of stuff and Intel started doing something where they pulled out of conventions yeah I was in conventions yeah for a very very long Hugh jetpacks up until like a couple years ago I think yeah and it was like at the start of pax and until was a big deal there and they held a big deal position for a very long time and their booth kind of shrinked and eventually it became a little bit less experienced all and check out our crazy products and it became look at our partners products and stuff like that but it was still there it was still really interesting it still brought actually a lot of people in compared to many booths on the floor that were hard we're based they were very active I know like Coursera was really active in stuff too but they were very active and then an AMD didn't really exist ambu is not what are you doing I'm spamming twitch.tv slash Linus tech in the chat because people are complaining about the leg we don't know what the issue is but it's something to do with YouTube but then again it's yeah so for whatever reason our stream is perfect on Twitch just going to be actually most confusing part is that it is working on Twitch but yeah it's cool so here we go but yeah so right around when Intel who had dislike literally complete market share although there's only two of them four processors showing up at conventions they disappear AMD shows up an AMD show that was literally the most perfect timing for AMD and the worst timing for Intel ever because Intel loses this like and I know ROI and conventions is like ridiculous and terrible and hard to track but don't talk too much about that though we have our own convention yeah but to tie into that convention the sentiment you get from those people yeah and these are influenced really strong yeah and then they're gonna go talk to their friends and they're gonna talk on forums they're gonna do everything else so it spreads out like crazy and when you can have that interaction as a hardware company in person which you almost never have it's super valued and that doesn't mean that Intel not showing up all of a sudden generates negative sentiment like it's not that simple but Intel loses their opportunity to say you know hey we're good to right around the time that AMD is coming in banging this we're awesome right now drum we're super awesome check it out and like AMD shows up with crazy booths now that are really interesting they're doing giveaways they have like their booths are banging and they show up out of nowhere yes it's just a really and that seems to be happening not just at the convention level that's somewhere where it's extremely tangible you can see it happen Intel disappeared ambi showed up and they completely took over the convention space I've been asked as a longtime Intel user by I forget what there was over Twitter on our forum or something I but I've been asked would you consider an AMD chip for your next rig and I was like yeah of course like the only reason that I'm not running AMD now is that it isn't the highest performance solution right now because the thing is and I don't want like this is not this is not a flex thing this is not like trying to rub it in or anything like that but I am NOT budget constrained for my computer so I have had a lot of people asked me over the last couple years mm-hmm well Amy's competitive why are you still running Intel because it's faster I'm gonna be the best option if you're building different price your computer's exactly so depending on what kind of a price point you're targeting yeah aimed you might make a ton of sense and I've recommended AMD plenty but no I haven't been using it because why would i well that looks like it might change so depending on how our evaluation of Rison third gen goes yeah it's very possible like people people treat me like I've never had an AMD computer you know what just for fun I'm gonna try and list out all the processors I've ever run I can't remember this every time you do this like I have no idea what I had really hard okay so the first CPU I ever owned was a Pentium 90 like this was my personal tower I inherited it from my uncle it was a Pentium 90 in like the early 2000s it was like pretty slow yeah okay so then the first rig I ever built for myself f 1 XP 2500 plus heck yeah bought me that 2500 plus baby then I got a 2500 plus mobile cuz it overclocked a little better overclocked that thing to 3200 plus but guys AMD fans speaking from the heart for heart to heart here okay we were deluding ourselves if we thought that a 3200 plus was actually equivalent to a 3.2 gigahertz northwood see ok it was not that was not a thing that was real 2% of the audience understands what's going on next CPU was I believe it was a claw hammer I want to say it was a 3200 plus it was the one with less cash um was it or was it north something shoot okay so okay so sledgehammer was FX only and then claw hammer was the single core whatever it was a socket 754 single core Athlon 64 it was a huge upgrade and the reason that I went to that was because at the time games were predominant basically exclusively single threaded so hyper threading while it was nice for your overall system responsiveness did not make a difference for games and games was 90 plus percent of what I did on my rig so I picked up an Athlon 64 single core okay my next upgrade was to socket 9 3d 939 and the reason that I had to go from 754 to 939 Oh super pissed off like that's another thing AMD fans are so quick to point at Intel for retiring their you know their motherboard chipsets so frequently and making you buy a new motherboard it's like don't don't imagine for a second that AMD's hands are clean in all of this either socket 754 lasted for like 10 months or something stupid like that I can't remember what it was and 940 on the desktop was even worse so I went to socket 939 and pick myself up this was the most expensive CPU I ever bought for myself it was a 4400 plus and the reason I went for that was because it was the first consumer dual-core processor not counting like I don't even know it was Itanium multi-core I don't know it doesn't matter the point was it was the first dual-core processor that you could buy for the desktop it was the full one Meg cache was at 1 Meg per core or 1 Meg can't remember compared to the 4200 Plus which had less cache so that meant that with overclocking you could get full 4,800 Plus performance which was other than the FX line which was basically dumb because it was just an overclocked the other thing so other than the FX line it was the fastest consumer chip you could get so from my 4800 plus what did I go - I got an OP Tron 165 are you noticing a pattern here noticing a pattern a lot of Andy Andy not funny most of my growth was on AMD as well so I got an OP Tron 165 and the reason for that was it overclocked slightly better that was around the same time I picked up as rocks very unique AGP and PCI Express board because I had an Ag depart at the time and I wanted to move to PCI Express related cool it was a great overclocking board shockingly other than the fact that you couldn't run 1t on your memory timings no matter what you did I tried everything alright from there I went to the e 6600 now why would I do that well because Conroe was a performance revolution it was a complete game changer it absolutely curb-stomped the aging Athlon 64 and AMD didn't catch up so from there I went to queue 6600 from there I went to queue 9650 to very temporarily I borrowed that one from work I think it was a QX 9650 excuse me borrowed that one from work deleted that I believe I was the first person to ever delete a QX 96 deleted a work thing don't worry about it oh um interesting from there I picked up a core i7 920 man that was a beast of a chip got myself ah this was right around the time that Kim and I went out of business so keen Honda yeah remember c'mon yeah so there a neon consumer line up of memory I don't even know if this is interesting to people they might not even be watching I don't care so they're a neon brand they had these one big games that they were liquidating for I think our cost was twenty bucks a pop and at the time that was once yeah it was wild so NCIX bought everything that we could take and internally we were buying them at cost so it was sick so I bought so I still have some of that a neon memory okay hold on one quick second here just sort of interested in that era upgrading your RAM was like a huge deal that's happened a lot yes no no we were a little bit after that Ram was not affecting gaming performance anymore especially because on the 1366 platform it was okay triple channel memory a little bit before six memory slots so when I had were they to gig gyms I think they were to gigs for 20 bucks they were if they were to gig games for 20 bucks and you could get the one gig ones for 10 I just remember when when we first started playing like EverQuest I never played ever everybody had to go get more RAM I had a like ever Wow everybody that I knew had a dog go get more ram in order to play over quest but nothing else works I had a job and a girlfriend I did not I was younger though anyway sorry so okay so I went to a 920 then I think at some point I moved to like like an extreme addition on that platform that I borrowed from work my extreme that's the only reason why I actually switched to Intel originally was because I got a retail edge Extreme Edition and I was like this deal is way too good yeah so of course the price performance here is wild yeah so retail edge speaking of retail edge I believe I went three thousand series through retail edge and then that was right around the time that I became a product reviewer and I started more legitimately getting chips that I could use in my personal rig yeah I'm work yeah so I've been running Intel since then and actually my personal rig even though I upgraded it I did publish a video about that recently I ended up downgrading it again so I'm still running a 59 60 X so I am looking for an upgrade I need Thunderbolt which might be a problem or maybe I could just run discrete cables I don't know I'll figure it out USB 3 extension cables are not bad time from my experience though yes nick is 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most conventions don't rope off BYOC oh yeah you gotta have it roped and then it's fine for a couple years then things get stolen and then they have to rope it up remember that the be way right is not LTX right it's dream hacks be yoc they're doing it right so they know what they're doing that makes sense so dream hacks free players right here the BYOC is right here the free play admin and the BYOC admin is here and here this is the stream studio I think they're planning to bring some streamers yeah this is the VIP special guest BYOC so that's where you'll set up cool flow cleaning people main stage meet-and-greet with creators of which we have like two dozen coming now how about the float where all the flow plane people are is gonna be right next to meet and greet for creators so I can just try to like poach people as they finish their meet and greets very cool we're doing gladiator jousting motherboard house of cards we have an entire pallet of pcbs so people are gonna be able to like build up you're gonna try and build the tallest house of cards from a pc b--'s there will be prizes we have so much prising nvidia sent over a hundred pounds of grass it wasn't it like oh you did it based on weight or something yeah like r-tx 2080 is 20 70s 26 TSO tak is sending three pallets of prising have they gone mad son what what are they even drunking it kind of makes sense okay I'm gonna give you another pax history thing sorry early date early days of pax it was much more hardware-based I remember one year Nvidia was an entire wall in the singular convention center that there was it's singular convention hall that there was and like many many many more Hardware booths and back then we would come back from conventions with like bags of swag and we would often like technically make more off of swag than we spent on the tickets and the trip in general which was like wild but that happened many times right now you're lucky if you get like a few t-shirts because it's all gaming companies I'm not that surprised that this is going on cuz it's a hardware based convention it's the hardware guys are just like yeah I take a bunch of stuff so which is so cool we have 3,000 people coming each day assuming that we sell the rest of the tickets and like Saturday will be 3,000 people yeah so I'm not saying everyone's gonna get like a full outfit and a gaming oh yeah no but we are doing our best to source as much spread it owns giveaway swag as we can and really we want to encourage participation yeah if people participate they will walk away with something if people don't participate it's gonna be a lot tougher yeah that's kind of the way that I want it to be I want LTI so should be highly interactive yeah absolutely that totally makes sense so back to the layout Razer is gonna be there this is gonna be fun there's an escape VR there's actually a lot of VR experience so is the escape VR like a room that you have to move through or something I don't know exactly how it works but it's a third party company that Lake does these cool yeah so it should be pretty cool it's an asleep trusting and then people actually they can't hear you because you're off mic it's an escape reminded VR environment there's trusting that don't worry it's fine job there's also no regular vr gaming and then there's VR which isn't really VR cuz it's more just reality but a camera person cars there's remote cars board game lounge food and beverage Memex is gonna be there and the size gonna be there and Zen excuse t is gonna be there be s mods gonna be there anyway stuff cool so this year there's actually gonna be a bunch of different like hardware brands there physically and it's gonna be hardcore too like CPU do letting we're gonna have a booth for that again so Roman they're Bauer sent over a bunch of his D living tools he's actually gonna be there by the way that's cool GPU re pasting that's happening Dreamhack Cindy playground K Stas is back and you get to boss an old Mac Pro cheeseburger kind of really sick gigabytes gonna be there the retro gaming lounge and vintage PC area are gonna be super cool dreamhack indie playground that's actually I love the indeed parts of these kind of shows so it's gonna be sick don't miss it yeah yeah it's gonna be sick don't miss it show today savage jerky yeah I got a nice little note from John oh I have to try something new today Oh ran out of maple bacon getting more love John oh so you know what that's fine the sriracha bacon is actually really good so I finally tried my Moho jalapeno hot sauce yeah it's actually amazing my favorite part about it is the aftertaste so if you eat kind of slowly which I do it's perfect you're the slowest eater of all time which makes it perfect like you're so slow yeah it's astonishing mm-hmm meanwhile David I went on a trip with him and we both ordered a pizza we were sitting on the like the curb eating it in Germany because I don't know why not sure so we're so we're like eating 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it's crazy fast 80 gigabit per second of raw bandwidth effective bandwidth of seventy seven point three seven which is pretty nuts 8k 60 Hertz HDR 8k at 60 Hertz later greater than a greater than 80 K six year it's SDR 4k at 144 Hertz HDR on two times five case of dual monitor yeah if you wanted to daisy chain yeah okay at 60 Hertz so basically this is the biggest leap forward in DisplayPort bandwidth ever so one and one point one we're eight point six gigabit per second so you could do 1440p at 60 Hertz which was a big deal at the time yeah 1.2 doubled that more a little more than doubled that so you could do 4k 60 Hertz that was a big deal because prior to that to run 4k you had to do two cables dual cable like super piling on your display was really cheesy it was bad times not good one point three and one point for could do up to twenty five point nine two so that was actually a pretty small leap forward 4k 120 Hertz or 8k at 60 Hertz with DSC which is if I recall correctly that acronym is the compression are the lossless compression and then finally DP 2.0 with I love this I love this the like the acronym for the code name for it whatever you want to call it is you HBR which sounds like uber uber twenty seventy seven point three seven you give it per second so this is a tripling in speed huge nut absolutely huge so they've got not just one but a few different bitrate modes the fastest mode and DisplayPort 2.0 will top out at eighty gigabits per second of raw bandwidth to about two and a half times that of 1.3 1.4 it also introduces a more efficient coding scheme resulting in less coding overhead so as a result the effective bandwidth of the new standard will peak at seventy seven point four so that's three times the physical characteristics the port itself is staying yes that's good both the port that we have now and the USBC connector via the DP alt node both the official ports for the new DisplayPort 2.0 standard and the number of pins and resulting high speed data lanes is remaining unchanged so it will continue to operate over four lanes it also retains the packet based approach to communication which means that image data continues to be sent as packets over a fixed bandwidth link as opposed to pixel centric pixel clock approaches and so what has changed is that the rest of the physical layer has been almost entirely replaced so Thunderbolt 3 o with Thunderbolt 3 which is now a royalty-free standard yeah and is going to be called USB for I guess except not quite because I think Thunderbolt branding Intel is still going to be using as sort of like their best-in-class implementation of the USB for standard that is sort of that has a lot of optional components so Thunderbolt 3 is truly bi-directional full duplex link two lanes allocated for each direction oh and DisplayPort is focused on sending large volumes of data in just one direction so DisplayPort 2.0 reverses the two inbound lanes to outbound cool that's actually that makes a lot of sense I'm stoked actually works yeah yeah and I guess actually that's kind of oh yeah we can talk the laser one sure yeah so it's a new device developed by the Pentagon after the US Special Forces requested it basically everyone has a cardiac signature and they can read that cardiac signature with an infrared laser apparently it works through typical clothing like a shirt or a jacket which surprised me Wow apparently not a thicker like winter coat but still a jacket which blows my mind and I'm assuming they're gonna have I'm kind of wondering if they're including like windbreakers as a jacket hard to say I don't know what if it's to do with thickness or to do with layers layers might be a problem too I'm not sure but but yeah apparently cardiac signatures are already in use for security identification this has happened before Canadian company company that I'm gonna butch the name of but I think it's Nami has developed a wrist worn pulse sensor as an alternative to fingerprint identification a little little crazy apparently it can take a little while for it to kind of lock on but it does work at a fairly far distance so it's only really effective if the subject is sitting or standing not really like moving around and stuff got it yeah so 200 meters it works from pretty wild that's crazy wild so one glaring limitation is the need for a database of cardiac signatures but even without this the system has its uses but you could probably pretty easily get that especially at like passport stations mm-hmm where people have to stand there for a while you just install it and grab it yeah yeah because you're handing them a passport you're giving them your name and all your information so yeah mash that up and create a national database really fast called jetson in practice it's likely to be used alongside facial recognition or other identification methods but in the long term the developers believe in addition to identification it could be used to scan for arrhythmias and other conditions remotely and hospitals could monitor the condition of patients without having to wire them up to machines which I guess is cool yeah but it's just yet another way that Big Brother will be watching and there's no real preventing it at this point yeah this one's kind of hard to screw with the future is now yeah just start wearing like a plate over your chest I was thinking about but it's not just that because I think it can see it through your skin in general yeah I guess they don't have a cardiac signature in like your arm right yeah so you'd have to have clothes only solution led clothing you'd have to have clothing that like ripples intentionally like actively ripples you'd have to have active clothing active active IR camouflage all right then show you guys see you again next week same bat-time same bat-channel goodbye see you later it's a vibrating chain maille it's a bitch super chats Oh birthday Preston happy birthday Wyatt lazy ak-47 says so I get a pulse wait commercial any other commercials you're in or will be in no not at this time but it is a service that Linus Media Group does offer like commercial production it's not something that we publicize a ton so the only reason we ended up doing that with pulse wave was just cuz like I don't know we just kind of ended up chatting about it like it wasn't yeah I don't even know if it's on our website but yes it is something that we do but no there's nothing really planned right now bob says cake or cupcakes you know I'm not a cake guy or a cupcake can either give me a good muffin oh yeah okay on this topic because wonderful the same but this two chocolate chip cookie oatmeal raisin cookie chocolate chip whoa I don't have had that it's amazing oatmeal is just better in my opinion okay sorry we can keep going I'm not that into chocolate chip cookies because they're usually crappy cookie yeah and they just try to get by on the chocolate yeah doesn't work that way yeah um alia - will you ever tell us about that colorful dragon tattoo you had about a half year ago yeah I was just messing with you guys it's just a spray-on thing oh that people thought that was real a lot of people did Wow well I kept reapplying it so it looked fresh for like quite a long time oh yeah interesting yeah video suggestion a collab with your Bower since he's coming to LTX anyway the problem is that everyone in their dog is coming to LTX and they're coming for LTX and i'm gonna be like scrambling in the lead-up to LTX and then recovering from LTX so unless they're like hanging around for a week that's probably not gonna be feasible other side guy would you agree that car culture and building custom cars and modding is similar to the PC space yes oh yeah definitely hey Linus decided to blow five bucks just to see make a funny face gap-toothed granny brian says Linus if you feed yourself out I'm gonna Kermit what is what is Kermit I don't know david says lines been a huge fan of your channel for years taught me a lot keep a little good work thank you John says Andy will probably move to four threads per core before Intel just to fully not kick them yeah they probably will Oh what did I click I don't know Oh No the down-arrow me Oh crud team oh I did I got my new LTTE hat and hoodie with home door delivery post girl did parently say that so you didn't need to go to the post office man Canada Post rocks in Finland great feedback glad to hear showed up to my wife Claire who is probably listening to this tomorrow says SEAL team Rex hey cool Midland says good evening - would you ever consider building your own studio and what would you need in your dream studio what a tremendous question so if I were to build my own studio first I would start with a ground floor with like a library for kind of like a quiet place to sit and editing done for all the editors to sit and work together and collaborate like a camera area where we can build up our rigs and tear them down and store them safely and like maybe a bathroom upstairs from that I put a boardroom I'd put my office I put an office for my wife who does all the accounting so she needs privacy I put another small office just in case we needed it in the future maybe a nice open space so that we could put cubicles or something like that nice nice another bathroom probably yeah then I'd expand it okay okay so I'd put Nick in my wife's office I'd put her in mine and then I'd move over to the other side where there would be three offices Luke had one of them at one point but we would have kicked him out by then we'd leave one of them open for like meetings yeah I'd take one of them then we'd have like an open space for the writers another bathroom the more people you add the more people need to pee you know I'd move the camera people out into the warehouse at that point I probably start with three warehouse you and I'd do like a green screen like an LTTE sat like a workshop a teklynx set and then like some storage area maybe maybe a little nook for the land show then I'd probably get a couple more units I'd add like an employee lounge and some more storage and then maybe like a hardcore workshop with like modding stuff sweet yeah that's probably die do smart consider it concise that's what I do I was being facetious that's our studio yeah what did he mean probably didn't know that we have a studio oh I'm just teasing we have a studio yeah we got our studio about four years ago yeah well I could understand why people don't know because we intentionally changed the sets to look like a house so anyone who started watching in the last year or two might not realize that the kitchen that we shoot in all the time is not a real kitchen that was the world yes so we wanted the videos to look less like a set in a studio and more like we just shoot out of a house like a normal youtuber but you do videos out in the warehouse sometimes weird that makes sense Nicola I'm going to an English course in Vancouver gonna missing LTX Oh rude what can I do that's tech related while visiting nicely not much Rita says are you going to do something ridiculous and cool with the Corning off go to 3d three cable oh yeah go free geek do that that's a good idea thank you um yes I'd love to they're supposed to send me one but they haven't yet Joshua says there has been a way to add special IR commands to the power sequence on harmony for many years I think Logitech didn't want to blame the customer yeah so the problem was that I couldn't so you have to pick from a menu yeah we went over all that um other side guy Ella IMO Edie's haven't particularly taken off because the futuristic design employed makes them look tacky yeah that's a fair point it's only part of the problem though yeah a poor except it coin is on the rise again do you have anything in the works for a mining update nope I'm out uh Jake likes tech says this is going toward a new stream PC that's not the stream pcs not the problem also see what LTX okay see you there Johnny says oh gee you gotta make alt X just as big or bigger or next year my boss told me he will be pay next year due to he needs me at work in the holidays I had set aside for going so you better we'll try I honestly can't promise that like we're gonna have two dozen creators there again cuz that is costing me a pretty penny the show itself could expand though yes and then maybe certain creators will just want to go anyways Ron says do you still write dress be six-fifty yes other side guy what's your thoughts on Australia being non-existent in the tech and gaming industry it's really far the only reason there's actually a lot of tech fans in Australia yeah and there's a huge amount of tech sales that happen on Australia hmm so the community is actually pretty decent it getting a show out there is extremely expensive if you're not based there because pax has one I think that's yeah yeah and it's relatively small yeah but again it's extremely expensive and getting a lot of the creators out there show like pax is at the scale where they're not generally paying for creators to go so the creators are gonna be sponsoring themselves to go or getting sponsorships to go and both of those are way more difficult because it's really expensive and they are oh I is a little bit different it's it's a difficult market but like yeah the the tech community in Australia is actually very large vibrant yeah yeah
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