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Google Makes YouTube MORE Confusing!! - WAN Show May.18 2018

2018-05-19
are you ready are you ready for the show oh that's good cause we're alive oh that whole time no no no just know I've been saying are you ready for a while it's not like an impression or anything it's just like oh I thought you said it you said so many times I just assumed it was something I didn't get I thought it was like Muppets or something no no no no if I was gonna do my pets I'd probably go like Oh Kermit the Frog here maybe we're going to do the man show like this well that's a great Jordan Peterson impression wouldn't Peter Sam you know who that is is that a reference that I should get is he famous yeah or she I guess Jordans one of those names that can go either way all right so we've got a great show for you guys today well I mean James is here so it'll be an adequate show for you guys today we've got new Google Glasses is something EVGA is apparently ditching CDs next week a mop yes we do actually we didn't even have a mock we had a broom we did have a mop right a broom handle with a wig on it oh this is good a dozen employees quit Google in protest against a military project and what else we got possibly new Google glasses it's still prototype phase and EVGA not giving new DVDs anymore gonna give you USB sticks instead wait how do you not have the YouTube red thing in here that is like the biggest news of this week I go to our forum I look what's on the front page of the forum then when I exhaust the forum I go to my other favorite ARS TechCrunch The Verge Bloomberg that must be on there it's not okay well we're gonna talk about that - you're gonna wing it and I'm gonna sit back and just take it in yeah you're just you're just talking over the music it's good it's terrible no it's good no it's terrible people hate it no they love it have you ever watched that you ever not been on the windrow and watched it because I lived my life before I worked here doing that and I liked it I liked when you guys talked during that yay I think you were the only one oh yeah you probably should have had that on the screening before we hired people like do you like it or dislike it when we talked over the intro music on the LAN show and that's so that's disqualifying if you like it so here's the thing when we hire we usually do some kind of a skill testing quiz and there are answers that if you get them wrong your application gets immediately put into a bin this guy like some matrix equals actually would what okay I was young he was younger than you and they came out for one and it might only be three years but that makes a difference when you're talking about like a 14 year old no they were so bad this okay they're no different they're they're deaf okay what were there were there to see poles or three sequels well there are three movies so two sequels okay so which hold on a second so reloaded in revolutions both came out in 2003 and is reloaded the one with the two weird twins yes well they're in both movies okay so don't take this the wrong way but I didn't even make it through the second one little watch the third one which I heard was much worse third one is worse okay you're throwing the baby out with the bathwater because yes hear me out okay what's the baby the baby is like one of the best car chases in cinema history kick ass fight scenes like there's parts of the matrix that aren't just the like counterculture and cool story there's parts of it that are make it a good movie like the kung fu and the fight choreography choreography or sweet and they're really sweet in that movie yeah so the is the fotografia good to the photograph what another graph what about the cinematography you know the cinematic I can't even do that I had to think about it also okay there's a part where he fights a pile of CG agents myths that looks like dog junk now but that was good when it came out it was cutting-edge so okay I'll admit that watching that ven I didn't get that cuz okay honestly the worst the worst instances of like CGI aging badly and it really taking you out of the experience are when you see the evolution of computer graphics over the course of a series of movies okay so I think like Lord of the Rings did a pretty good job of this where even though the movies were released years ago them at the same time did they from all I believe it they would have done they like post-processing later though like I know for a fact that scene in Return of the King where they're like surrounded by the entire army of like orcs and stuff and I know for a fact that was done like towards the end and that scene probably wouldn't have even been possible with the computer hardware that was available when fellowship came out like that was a really really demanding thing because every single one of those had like some kind of like reactionary AI or something so I I heard they I remember reading this article where they had a really hard time getting the heroes to not like try to break out and run away or something like they had to force them to stay inside this ring oh and because they've because there were like self-preservation thanks anyway apparently it was part of the way that they did like the really large scale like overviews of the battlefield anyway so one of the series that really suffered from this for me is oh oh oh oh oh people are people are spoilers we're talking about the lord of the matrix 1999 people people are mad because we're not talking about tech okay we are talking about technology and movies technically that is tech also like the Venn diagram is almost completely overlapped with this audience and Lord of the pens and these movie is like how can you anyway anyway okay so uh that's right the Harry Potter movies because not only were the first two and especially the first one done like before the later ones because obviously that's how it works except Star Wars so okay that's the thing oh shut up not only that but they were way lower budget like you can really tell looking up and you're like oh wow they like weren't even really trying with some of this stuff I remember being a child and seen the first one I'm thinking the it was pretty good me to control came on screen but like if it's cutting edge for the time than the second one but oh wait is that no you're right that isn't the first one yeah so so yeah it was no no I don't even think that was top of the line at the time but it was like pretty good so they were lower budget they were done earlier and I went back and rewatched the entire thing because they had like a box at Costco with the whole thing and I bought it because I'm an idiot and I was like wow these are kids movies and then Prisoner of Azkaban rolls around you're like oh yeah now that's one yeah now they're like real movies all of a sudden so do you think they should do every release like they did with Star Wars when they up that green master it make the graphics better you know what because aside from Daniel Radcliffe Emma whatever her name is Watson thank you and then whatever Universal ginge the most famous ginger ever yeah what does he like drive a bus now or something well yeah I heard you like got out of show business and you just want it to like drive a bus that'd be sweet yeah yeah no they Lewis moved to Italy for like five years just to make shoes I want yeah anyway because aside from their acting getting markedly better also like you could probably you could probably you could resi GI it i think you could actually make it a significantly more immersive movie hmm she had George Lucas on it he should be on the team just oversee it yeah it's got experience in this he's it was a good job he does a hell of a job but he undertakes those projects anyway back to Agent Smith I will agree with you that at the time that didn't pull me out of the movie like I felt like that's pretty cool wow it really looks like he's fighting a bunch of agents myths mm-hmm that was still a terrible movie with us the thing is a lot of people the immersion not being broken for me a lot of people just hate the fact that he fought a bunch of agents oh I was actually okay with that because I was also a kid okay yeah no it was I that's like far from the worst part of that movie it was just oh it is the worst part is that when he has powers outside of the matrix at the end spoiler because that's I think like the biggest division between the first one in the sequels III you know what I'm gonna be honest with you I don't remember it well enough I just remember it being free you're just bandwagoning all the people who hate it you should watch again the cards okay look I watched the first one again like a couple years in that last weekend and it's so bad oh it's awesome God moving on it is so bad like there's no way I would like the second one if the first one has aged that poorly it's so cheesy the leather like the leathers not cool anymore no no it's not and the worst part is that like I've seen Keano a Keano Keanu actually act reasonably well I'm sure of it camper call it right now how can you say whoa as good as he says whoa in that movie I feel like I have to try I just I just jump I just jumped from the building we're standing on to another skyscraper across the way this pickle ad that I'm looking at you know what that's you an angry green dick right there that's you which one left or right uh you know what you're the shorter one huh bear little a little greater though take that all right all right why don't we do an actual tech topic at some point here so the verge has an article here on a reported new Google glass it'll be an AR headset and oh wow I was gonna say it looks just as bad no no no not zero I ain't no that's I hesitate to even call it a new Google glass because I suspect that they're gonna change it all together that probably wouldn't be a terrible thing because it is impossible not to look like a complete jackass wearing that thing yeah so my theories about why the first one failed have to do exactly with the things that they thought were highlights they thought it was so good that the camera was up and out of your eye sight you have to look up at it to see it you mean the screen the camera on the screen but I mean sorry you're right but that makes it so useless because what you want is like a mixed reality you want all the digital stuff to be right there so yes host that's what they're doing with this one is more like hololens okay but it's untethered self-contained it'll have cameras and microphones and it'll use the same new Qualcomm chips as the upcoming hololens so it's a QSC 6:03 fork or chip based on an ARM architecture it'll be built by taiwanese computer maker quanta and is apparently still in the prototyping stage so is that all we know about it right now I think so I think that's that's basically I would say it's probably on the same bit of production cycle as the the rumored Apple what's it called Project Titan their glasses hmm whose do you think will be better mmm because Google will have a much better AI I mean Siri I swear Siri has actually gotten Dumber over the last few years well I would think that apples would maybe be a better hardware product and they're a are there a are kit a our stuff is quite good but it will certainly be tethered with the iPhone because Apple now makes products to squeeze more money out of I phone users whereas this being purportedly untethered like I'm reading that as a completely standalone device you don't even need to have a phone if that's true then it has the assistant on it to be useful right and that's a whole different game that's the apples and oranges at that point and I don't even like I don't I'm just trying to hear okay here's my issue with augmented reality is like you know what I actually this is unusual but I want to hear from twitch chat I want you guys to start throwing some some some messages in the twitch chat let me know what and you can't you can't head you can't hedge okay you got to pick one what is one thing that you want a hourglasses to do that would make you buy and I'm gonna throw a price point at you let's say they're not cheap I'm gonna say 500 US dollars oh I thought you're gonna say a thousand no 500 I think 500 is reasonable so 500 US dollars and you pull the trigger immediately what's the feature go so are you ready with one cuz I got one it's ready you go you don't go first okay so for me one of the things that I have like I can't think of anything personally that would inspire me to spend that kind of money because my entire life pretty much revolves around my phone screen or my computer screen and I've I don't find myself having a desire to overlay information on top of a screen with a screen like that's not really a thing I get up in the morning I like check the news on my phone ate my breakfast I take my kids to school I Drive so I'm driving then I get to work I sit down in front of you tur or shooting in which case I'll have my phone with me if I need to like send out a quick tweet or whatever something you won't be able to do with glasses anyway then I Drive home then I spend time with my kids then I am on a screen or or not on a screen ideally that that's it so I'm never that far away if I like really need to you know look something up and that's Smart Watch - of course for me the justification would be business okay so when I'm traveling if I had the ability to be at like a some kind of a cocktail mixer or something or if I walked into a business meeting or like the suite at Computex for a soos and this thing starts recognizing people that are on my social networks so then all I have to do is like add people to Facebook or LinkedIn or there's an app that does something like that yet moki but here's the thing it needs to do it well so it needs to be able to go okay here's their name here's a couple things about them here's the last email that you exchanged with them if applicable like it needs to be able to aggregate all of this data and help me avoid embarrassing situations where like I'm like yeah it was really nice to meet you and they're like we've had three meetings over the last you know eight years and I'm just like well that's enough meetings that I should feel really bad but in my defense when I go to these types of shows I usually meet anywhere from 200 to 500 people in a span of a week and I'm sorry but unless you you have like bright orange hair on one side and bright purple hair on the other side I'm probably not gonna remember you it's how max got hired by the way she was the most memorable application I actually was involved in look what you describing sounds to me like what the Facebook app for that form factor would be yeah and it's consistent with Google's ultimate vision which is not only like here can I jump in cuz these are these are going away too quickly I jump in with some other people's things hold that so man some people are asking for unreasonable things like complete replacement of your smartphone and SmartWatch and put there's no the imp oh yeah there I don't think that makes any sense okay google maps with AR yeah I can see that having a value that would be sweet the navigation is just right over top of the road yeah all right but really 500 bucks you'd buy it for that like how often do you really navigate somewhere exactly if I was an uber driver maybe yeah so again that's a professional use though um Google search info okay Wow holy crap this is respecting women way too fast if this device respected women I'd buy it like that dash cam feature like shadowplay being able to go back and record any moment in your life just recording everything there's an episode of Dark Mirror like that or in black mirror you don't want that yeah I could see it being used it's also a big problem when does that oh wow relationship status I could see a lot of people buying it for that that would be sweet like you basically like the tinder app for that form factor you walk around it's like yep that's a tinder user oh wow that okay imagine like real world tinder people walking around with these headsets just like oh wow and you could swipe with your head so you just look at people be like no you know someone you see them there's a thing over your head you both know the others on tinder they're looking at you going like this you're like like you make eye contact across the room and you're both just like yeah a lot of people are sorted desk though nope a lot of people are saying porn but like why like why do you who would want to be walking around with like a raging erection because they're like watching porn while they're on the bus like what is the point of that like I know I know okay so here's the thing it's like I think most people are probably just saying that to be funny but I'm sure at least a handful of you I'm sure at least a handful of you legitimately would watch porn on a plane or on a bus or whatever if you could and to those people I would say really like really like III think I think you know what I think I'm not gonna get it I imagine all the extensions you could get all the hilarious filters you could get where like someone's talking to you and you just see objects around their head like okay Hwang's coming at ya Hwang's around linus via of you arguing schematics and diagrams like large scale schematics and diagrams like if you could have whatever you're working on and then you could just like have a picture-in-picture effectively over your vision of of like a manual or something along those that's actually what I would pick what I would pick as a collaborative like virtual object app where you and I could sit we could be having a conversation now you have an idea you want to describe the idea to me instead of using limited language you just say okay here's a cube and you rotate it and it tracks your hands so you can manipulate it eros taka has another commercial purpose if you worked at a car dealership and the client comes in and asks you a question about like that used car like you know who was the previous owner how many kilometers does it have on it all of a sudden you get to be like bippity Boppity sir I've got all those answers for you give me one minute I just have to stare at the car for a second yeah it's all loaded all right so here's what we got for you I know I can see that again another professional application so I see this being a professional device initially much like hololens but that's consistent with Google's what's google lens right Google's ultimate aim was to bring information to you before you query it you don't even have to search it comes to you as you need it and that's what lens is if you looked at Google i/o last week they had demos where you're you're basically walking around Chicago and you look at a historic building and yeah up comes a Wikipedia page for it and it's an AR so it's got the nice depth to it that's that's exactly what you're talking about you look at an object of relevance to you and like that yeah but I just you know I'm not much of a like information about this building buff like for me you walk by a restaurant looks okay and then there's the four star rating their reviews okay that would be useful but here's the problem it has to actually work like I was in London this week and I'm I'm standing where I'm standing I got my little you know blue dot facing whatever direction it thinks I'm facing that seems to be just kind of like a yeah come on baby yes not accurate at all and I search for food which I would think would bring up restaurants or restaurant or whatever I searched for something and it just it's just random like like I walked past an Italian restaurant that looked fine and had a good rating when I like manually search for it on my way to the Italian restaurant that it brought up in the search result I'm just guys sitting here going Italian was right in the name and it was on my way like it was closer to me than the thing that you found like it just seems arbitrary a--sometimes and so it's it's frustrating for me too for Google to come out and say we're gonna have this amazing technology your phone is gonna call your hairstylist and make an appointment for you you're gonna put on these glasses and they're gonna dynamically tell you everything you need to know about everything you're looking at and they don't even have the basic stuff working right now Italian freaking restaurant well there's a problem right there handle that I wanted pizza okay actually didn't want pizza I wanted anything that my wife would also be that's what I wanted that is get full I do that for you oh thank you I did that nice I know I intentionally didn't put icing because when you have ice and your water boil you drink it weird you can't or your mouth so that the ice doesn't come out I just don't like the way your face looks when you do it I don't like warm water to the hole it's not warm you know like just just for you I'm 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the forum by vegetable stew and the original I love that guy's name by the way is from yeah it's s tu haha oh yeah okay stew like it his name is Amos - dang it a non tech how do I get rid of this thank you this is actually something I asked you I asked you as a noob I was like why are they giving discs when I die and everyone else doesn't have a drink it doesn't have a DVD player anymore and you told me it's because it's way more expensive to give away flash drives an EVGA actually confirm that even though EVGA is ditching DVDs for their all the drivers and giving you an 8 gigabyte flash drive instead they actually did admit that it's 20 times more expensive you can give you a flash drive they're still doing it so 20 times more expensive would be like says how much does I think I think a disc costs like on the order of like three cents or something like that like I like basically it's probably costing them a few bucks though for each one with that said EVGA has a bit of an advantage here compared to other motherboard makers because they don't really make any entry-level boards so every motherboard that they sell we'll have enough margin in it that they could probably afford to throw in a USB Drive and there have been high-end boards before that came with USB drives yeah they're not the first do it that's freaking awesome though especially because flash NAND flash has gotten to the point where it's not any more cost-effective to make like a one gig USB Drive than it is to do an 8 gig USB Drive like 8 gigs is the size they start at so that's what EVG is providing and what's cool about that is 8 gigs is exactly the right size for you to be able to use it for and it's odd install ISO a DVD ISO oh I thought you're gonna say 2 blu-rays no cuz it's not enough for that whoever's like four gigs no DVDs for gigs blu-rays how about 40 what TV DS were like 700 bytes no that's CDs 650 or 700 DVDs or four point seven and then blu-rays are like 40 and 80 like Bigelow they've got much higher like 20 40 80 or something like that when I used to be a scumbag who taunted movies they were always about 700 megabytes yeah that's because there were 720p seriously downscaled so that scrubs like you yeah who were too cheap not only to buy movies but also to pay for more internet download the Holly yep didn't go over their data limits so blu-rays are 25 and 50 gigs okay yeah um well you can put some Word documents on it how about that wait eight gigs no you can put that DVD you can put an ISO on it that's what I'm trying to say so they say the cost increase will not trickle down to the consumer which is of course nonsense I think all that means is they're not adjusting the pricing of their current generation of boards but that doesn't mean that when they consider the bomb cost the bill of materials for their next generation that they won't consider that that's another two or three dollars mean this could have been two dollars cheaper this whole time um okay this was originally posted over on Gizmodo it was posted on the forum by Pyrrha I pi pi pi pi r yeah I think and dozens of employees have quit Google in protest against a military project was this project maven okay wait a second a dozen not dozens yeah sorry I'm a dozen so far so project maven is a project that Google is working on in club really a project they called it project maven and it's a project it's undertaking Wow okay you do it do tell me more no no actually you have to do it because I'm checking that's on the YouTube premium thing that you didn't put in here despite protests from employees why would it employee ever protest Google is charging ahead with the Department of Defense collaboration to produce machine learning software for American military drones project maven aims to speed up the analysis of drone footage by automatically classifying images of objects and people and now a dozen people at Google employees are resigning in protest over the company's continued involvement and this is in addition to about 4,000 employees who have voiced concern in a petition that was circulated internally yeah so basically project maven is a way of using AI to identify targets in for and okay it doesn't say explicitly but the the assumption so this is all like allegedly but the assumption is that the technology is going to be used to identify targets for drone strikes is ultimately what people are mostly upset about Google has emphasized the google claims it is only providing open-source software to project maven which means the military would be able to still use the technology even if Google didn't accept payment or offer technical assistant and they have emphasized that it's AI is not being used to kill the technology is used to flag images for human review and is intended to save lives and save people from having to do highly tedious work and of course I mean you could see that the objections to this their mission statement from the beginning was don't be evil yeah but that's nowhere in their documentation anymore as far as I know but it's still baked into the company ethos and a lot of people who work there make its bought it's possible that you worked there for a long time and that was the mission statement and when you were hired and for a lot large part of your career second part of it is that Google it's been argued that Google has is mandated to protect all of its users and they have a global user base so this is this project serves the interests of the US and the weaponry that's developed from it could be used to harm Google users who are not in the US so where does the responsibility lie this is great frontal on the in twitch at deciding whether or not to kill someone equals highly tedious work so there are other American companies major tech companies including IBM and Amazon that have refused to work with the US Defense Department but the counter-argument to that I don't think you read that correctly sorry what's that in addition to the petition circulating inside Google the total the petition sorry there was another petition that tried to get other companies like IBM and Amazon to work together to refuse to work with the US Defense Department so the counter-argument to that is like well don't you want the united america to you know keep up with you know other countries like you know it is it's like do you think that the engineers at Baidu are quitting because they don't want to do defense contracts with the Chinese government do you think that's happening the engineers at Yandex in Russia do you want the u.s. to be overpowered by other nations that that get this kind of work done from the private sector well private sector I mean what do you is Baidu private sector technically I don't know well that's the other thing what happens to you if you protest I don't not even go in there so if it's gonna be happening anyway then who do you want to hold this kind of technology I could see why you wouldn't want to be the one working on it but you should probably understand that when you walk away there's another engineer is gonna work on it and if that engineer and then you thought engineers not at Google that injury will be is either from a different company in the US or another company in different country but I do apparently not state-owned as of this article from 2015 I don't know if it's I don't know if that's up to date but I was just curious oh that's not what I thought you meant explicitly but all right um all right so let's move on then to YouTube's complete dog's breakfast iam sorry excuse me YouTube premium so the original article here is from the verge and basically so how much do you know about YouTube bread mmm very little okay so right now okay I'm just trying to I'm trying to remember what YouTube music is oh yeah you're right crap what is YouTube music we will always does this I know it's so frustrating okay no no so that one's coming soon okay okay so Google okay so on the Play Store you can like get music okay but I think trying to remember all the different like whatever let's just go with how it was up until now so Google Play Music lets you stream music and like download music to your device okay it's like I forget it's like $10 a month or $8 a month or 15 for family but those are credential I had the family plan and yeah I pay like $15 Canadian or $60 Canadian or something like that okay so then for a few US dollars more than Google Play Music you can get YouTube read which strips the ads out of YouTube videos that is the like the Google supplied the Adsense supplied ads and and gives you access to google play music it also gives you additional benefits within the YouTube app so the ability to play song videos for example with the screen off with the phone in your pocket is just how it works now cuz I thought before it was like if you bought google play music you just got YouTube read and I think it was the other way around and I really mean like I got music and I was super stoked on that and then I found out that wasn't in the that was not in Canada okay let's just let's just let's just do how it's gonna work now okay all right so so YouTube red is gone apparently they were tired of being called red tube no kidding you it is red yeah I know I know right how could they impossible red tube has been around since like 2007 or something like that know something like wow look at him covering covering you know because YouTube itself came out in 2007 so red too must have been them no YouTube was 2005 that's fine um okay so YouTube red is being replaced sort of by YouTube premium which gives you ad free music the ability to listen in the background correct and downloads as well as ad free video the ability to play in the background this is cool downloads on YouTube videos so you will now be able to load up YouTube videos on your phone before a flight or whatever I should not have to use one of those ripping tools when I want to rip something off um sweet I can finally get them in their native mean compensate the artists is that what you mean anyway also all YouTube originals so YouTube red originals or whatever they were calling those are now just called YouTube originals and then YouTube music premium for just two dollars less so this is like a pretty terrible deal as far as I can tell just gives you add free music so other other videos will have ads and the ability to listen in the background and download music specifically and then how Google Play Music figures into all this I can't remember yes right if you have a Google Play Music subscription you get youtube music as part of that membership play music is not going away yet but we play music got it what's that in other news YouTube premium is finally coming to Canada so I plan to get it immediately because I am so tonight editor's can ripoff I am so tired no it's nothing to do with that it's because YouTube forces me to break their own Terms of Service every day because you you are not allowed according to Google's Terms of Service to watch your own ads or interact with your own ads because it inflates your viewership numbers that's like being an Amazon affiliate and sending getting your friends to buy the thing you're an affiliate for no that's fine no you can't do that you can't no I can't be like hey guys I here's my affiliate link to buy this t-shirt all my friends and family if you're gonna buy this t-shirt use my link you can't do that oh I see what you mean okay well it's a little I think it's a little bit different from that because it's like actually like it's it's it's it amounts to it like it's a holdover from the days of click fraud where written websites would have banners up on their sites and then they'd like just click on their own ads all day yeah so that they could get a bunch of money but but no one ever actually looked at that so anytime I watch a video like an on skippable video I'm skippable ad for example might show up and then I sit through it I have effectively fraudulently given an impression to that video don't they know the IP of the uploader but if they know that and know it's a little more complicated than that because I could be using a different device but we're talking about a logged in mm-hmm so I've been asking Google for this for ages when I'm logged in don't serve an ad on my video but they cannot figure this out or they just don't care but the second one is more likely one so finally I won't have to break Google's Terms of Service just but by being a youtuber and that's wonderful that makes my heart fuzzy they're like stop we all know you use ad blocker no I don't all right so what else do what else do we have today do we have anything interesting oh oh oh yeah okay so for anyone who was sort of speculating that maybe Asus really wanted to do the area's brand no they did not they as of now now that uh now that GeForce partner program is officially dead Erez is gone ROG is back so that's good glad that's all behind us conclusive yeah do you think there's gonna are there any eras cards out there this could be like a Larabee thing if we can get our hands on one that'd be cool I don't think so I mean if there's an employee out there as one that'd be really cool to get our hands on that um all right according to WC CF Texas is supposed to buy black Cup on the forum we've got rumors of a GTX his name was what Evan T black Cup no it's woke up got its buck up Oh buck up you need to buck uh sorry add black cup look I come from a home covered in black Cup I come from eight time zones away right now I landed back in this country like 24 hours ago same people who are still in that time zone field so according to the leaks the GTX 1170 will be powered by a 104 class GPU codenamed GT 104 what would t be so it's not Volta what was it Tom oh I don't remember what the rumored T codename was gonna be there'll be approximately 400 millimeters square so that's a pretty big chip okay 2688 CUDA cores 256 bit DDD are six memory interface 8 to 16 gigs of DDR 6 memory slot that's good that it has an interface that matches the amount of are the type of memory it's rumored to have so the rumor managed to get hopefully at least that much right clocks of 1.5 to 1.8 gigahertz depending on boost so this would put it in the same league as the existing GTX 10 atti so once again if you invested haha infested because of crypto haha if you invested not invested if you plunked down the money for a top-tier card a top-tier ti card you are once again going to have to wait two generations in order to get any kind of significant upgrade from Nvidia so we've seen this a lot of times now where the GTX 680 Ti was the last time they late gtx 60 no they never did a 680 TI so the gtx 680 was the top tier of that generation and then in the next gen there was a 770 that was exactly the same thing and then 17 maybe it's 700 series that I'm thinking of so 700 series yeah then you got a 980 that didn't know then the 980 TI didn't come till later that's right so 780 Ti was very similar in performance to the GTX 980 so when the 900 series rolled around if you had a top to your card there was basically no upgrade for you until the 980 TI came or the yeah the 980 TI came quite some time later then a 980 TI was actually quite similar to a 1070 or 1080 so there wasn't much of an upgrade there until the 1080i came quite a bit later so you actually have to kind of wait at least a half generation in order to get an upgrade if you bought the top-tier card from last time around so if that combined with the fact that the 10 series launched I planned it the 10 series launch GTX 10 to the 10 ATT I launched let's find out the TI yeah so that was back in March of 2017 so it's been a full year you will still have no upgrade path from that so the only people who will be upgrading are probably people who bought 10 80s or before so that was way back in May 2016 people who bought 10 80s and who've been waiting for a significant upgrade at that same price tier and we don't actually don't even know anything about pricing because while the criminal once there is one tidbit about the pricing here oh that it's gonna cost more than it did last generation 500 bucks sure that's that's what is being guessed apparently for the 1170 specifically alright and that's a super rumor that's just like whispers around the industry indicate yeah NVIDIA has been known to mislead people like I still remember there was a launch might have been the 580 or something like that where they literally changed the pricing on us the day before and like no one knew their own partners sigh a lot of money but was like buy a hundred dollars or something that was pretty significant up or down um down yeah yeah can't complain though right yeah that's old news though in video like surprising the industry with great pricing that's not SC to Mitch posted this one on the forum this was originally posted on inside games dot biz and I gotta say this shouldn't surprise me but it does it shouldn't because it's been on the wine show before well whatever I probably skipped it cuz I was like oh that's boring so the IOC is to host an eSports summit in whatever however you pronounce that lizanne Lausanne in July there's supposed to be a French speaker oh is it French since Switzerland alright so basically this is just to continue the organization's dialogue with the gaming industry it's just a one-day meeting and in due course approach the stakeholders of the Olympic movement again never gonna happen man eSports will never be in the Olympics and I argue that they don't belong in the Olympics I'm not gonna disagree with you I'm not even gonna play devil's advocate here cuz I don't think it makes a ton of sense but with that said there is stuff in the Olympics that I don't necessarily think belongs in the ellipse or sure I mean here you know what let's bring up the fullest speed walking and stuff look I mean the stuff hard but the point is that it's athletic the way I look at it is in athletics there's something you intend to do there's an action you want to carry out you see that action in your mind and then because your body it has crappy tolerances even though you want to throw that ball into that particular spot you just can't do it but in a video game for the most part you can you want your units to move right there you click there and they move there so I think the fact that there's greater tolerances that you don't have much control over on your own body that's what really separates I mean you could make the argument that moving the motor very precisely is a pretty good analog for that sure but that's only a part of the game and not the whole game there aren't really a lot they were Olympic events than I thought actually most of these aren't that steep let's winter though no no I got both okay okay hand ball are you gonna put it on the screen really handball handball is huge in Europe man there's a bunch of people yelling at you right now huge pretty ba - all right well then fine so-so is there is there anything here that we really think is pretty dumb football guys kicking the buzz and make any sense joking joking equestrian that's kind of weird what is dressage a dressage it's like fancy walking on horses it's but again this is like the horse I guess there's skill and training a horse and I'm sure there's skill as a rider but you're telling me that if the rider gets hurt that day and you still got the good horse you're not gonna just send someone else on top of that good horse and still maybe win I don't know anything about this sport okay here's another angle that John Martin here the writer of tech quickie told me when we discussed this all those months ago or maybe there's someone on the forum they basically said an interesting angle is the fact that video games are commercial products so you're gonna go on to the Olympics and you're gonna broadcast something that Blizzard owns or something for example so you think there's a potential like licensing issue here or just like the IOC wanting to be paid ultimately maybe that someone wanting to get paid or at least being free advertising right it's bizarre and then there's another quote here that says that they're not going to do anything they said killer games but the guy has a has an accent so but violent games and that's like half the games half it can be like the competitive ones especially yeah like what what games are competitive that don't involve killing I mean I guess like dota is a lot better than call of duty okay yeah okay or something but that's a fair point but you you're not gonna watch direct or something I'm gonna watch Civilization six in the Olympics yeah I mean all right they're games they're not sports so they're like there's stuff that you could like shooting is shooting a sport then where's the game what why not like shooting a target like it's super physic or like archery where's your argument that it's not well yeah okay games are in the mind you think games are in the mind the mind chess is a quintessential game Youth you compute what you want to happen and the the action of carrying out that task yeah is a non-issue you just pick it up and put it there that's not the hard part of the game it's the computation that's the hard part of the game in sports it's the carrying out of the task that's difficult everybody wants to get the ball across the line it's doing that as hard I would argue that I would argue that video games sit in between though I agree like it I very just very area I agree with that but if you say it'll never have I think they're way closer to the game end I'm sure twitch chat is hitting us up with some games that aren't that don't have killing okay rocket League I can't rocket league is just soccer yeah I can't imagine watching rocket League like in the Olympics I just I like it man I I have a hard time like it's such a ridiculous concept I think the like these cars running around and like using their butts to hit a giant ball into a thing like I just you know what you're hitting on right now is the level of abstraction with video games compared to the real sports because what happens everyone has a common experience within the Olympics come on Street Fighter okay the Super Smash we're gonna be great fighter in smash okay okay - come on you've never watched pole-vaulting in your life you've never watched the sport in your life but you're sitting there and you just instantly get it you can appreciate when someone does a good job you're like that was amazing yeah that'll never happen with eSports someone puts on a Starcraft 2 match you don't know that they have all these battle cruises you're just like oh that guy has ships okay like it's too abstract it from a visceral feeling that we can all share yeah I agree with you I think it's far more likely that they'll just make their own Olympics I agree the black dude they should have and you know we on France line yeah close friends that you pay to hang out with you employees hey friends have the night got those I'm out of here all right so I think that's pretty much it for the wine show today we will see you guys again next week same bat-time same bat-channel that's all that no guarantee on the time don't talk I'm gonna talk don't talk to you never get oh yeah yeah I'm can sing on the intro alright fine never gonna turn around desert you how weird is that guy's voice though yeah this guy was talking to me put this thing look good yeah and that one bye-bye
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