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it's like I guess I'm going the other way I click the button we're live we're live and you did it yeah welcome to the wine show come on welcome in guys I'm Manning the I'm Manning the computer today I've never done it before I'm very excited yeah I uh we've got Ruby soft is killing game Keys it's it's an interesting title for that subject we'll talk about that soon Facebook the future is private and what everyone believes that a half a cent that's that's solid yeah you wanna do the next shot and well we have two more and blue the Intel Z GPU it supports ray tracing sort of sort of one of them does well to it I mean yeah I guess it definitely does but only one of them yeah also we're not sure how we feel about this one but I guess we'll talk about it later Epic Games by SIA psionics I almost see owner epic bionics which is the rocket League developers yeah they're just out here trying to screw up the ecosystem you know I don't know how I don't know what I think about this I'm very 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platform also maybe talk about that a little bit later on but now do be soft killing game keys yes yeah so I guess there's a the reasoning for this is that I mean what's the problem with game keys so click on my loop screen thing Luke screen boom you got oh that's how we that's how you do the show okay so gubisov is trying to prevent illegal resales of its games with a new method of selling digital PC game keys called silent key activation or ska it's not to be confused with the music music yeah which is not a legal game for news sales yeah I haven't personally heard of this method but apparently you go to an external website you pick a game key you pay them you sign it with you you play account and you have the game yeah which which is a little bit funky there's been external game stores for a long time where you can get a key and just in the when you're done checking out you either get email the key or it just shows up right there and you just copy paste it there this is a new thing and I guess there's been sort of legal issues with that where you know some resellers can manage to get their hands on game keys through perhaps illicit means yeah and so this is a way to prevent that and kind of make it make sure everything is kosher and you know by the book yeah so instead of like getting an actual key and getting that through a website you go to a site and then you have to sign into your account and then so it likes does authentication through the website instead of just throwing keys all over the place right because I know I know when the throwing Keys all over the place thing sort of started pretty early on people were buying keys in countries where the games were more heavily discounted due to the average income of that country hmm and then they were selling them to countries where your income was much higher right so there was countries that would like get a discount cuz like you know what kind of hard to afford these things in certain areas so we'll let it be cheaper for you and then people buy tons of keys there and resell them it's a little shady yeah there's been a lot of a lot of shadiness around that department so this method is supposed to make it harder for illegal game keyword redistribute errs to operate and the problem that I saw with it than when I was reading about it was that this now requires you to sign in to whatever site that you are getting the key from with your like Ubisoft account so then they have probably a like external authentic I don't remember the exact name for it right now because I'm blasted but it's probably not on alcohol on lack of sleep but it's it's probably a like external sign-on thing it's probably okay right it's good probably okay probably cuz I don't know anything about the development side so all I can do is say that sounds gonna crazy it's like how you can use like steam to sign into the line effectives form which I don't do right but you could I don't either - yeah I have my own account but you would still have your own account you're just using it for authentication yeah but I don't want somebody to be able to buy games on my Steam account through the line is tech tips for him which I know you would do if you had the chance okay so I think so what you're saying is my voice keeps cracking I know I don't I don't know if it's actually an issue but so but what you're saying I think I'm gonna try to interpret for a second interpreter yeah is that you're worried that you login and authenticate and then anyone could go on that website anytime and buy groups in the future and let me clarify that that's not necessarily my concern but that is what I read no that's evil we're having an issue with that seems valid if you don't have to login or you don't have to authenticate every time right because as has been proven time and time and time and time again websites will be vulnerable and things will be stored in terrible plaintext very commonly all over the place mmm oh yes yeah once a month does that a lot yeah with all of their different services yeah yeah that's great 10 digital game distributors are doing it right now including fanatical and GamersGate not gamergate GamersGate what gamersgate is up is a I've never heard of it but it's barely the game that's amazing while Green Man gaming have their own equivalent tech in place like that's what that says I don't know exactly what that means okay they probably had a similar set up already done but yeah I mean I guess I'm ok with it I forgot the thing was on my screen is on your screen so yeah sorry go back to main I'll go back to main basically have to be at the beginning of Nerdist have the power I have the mouse the beginning of an article we jump to one of those screens really quick just so people can see the article oh you guys don't want to see they don't want to see important information first you know part of it I do I'm not I'm a tech lend guy okay I'm not the way and show guy you I respect your work flow here ok that's they over here I don't know if I really call it a work flow it's just like something we fell on top of after doing it for a while there's any flow or plan actually gotcha but yeah it's interesting I'm not against it I've always thought those websites were pretty kind of sketch yeah I mean I thought some some games keys from resellers but every time I do it I'm kind of like feel a little bad you know I doing something bad it's like this is discounted a ridiculous amount there's got to be a reason for it but also it's cheap it's also discounted ridiculous amount so here we go yeah so if there's a way for me to like be assured that this is like more legit I think that's a good thing yeah because like the big thing is like making sure that you know the morally ambiguous sort of situation is kind of streamlined less morally yes okay well should we move on I mean I don't know I don't really have any other thoughts about that do you guys have thoughts I can yeah that I'm not used to be half to being able to look at the chat I can't do it I can't multitask I mean tasks yeah I can't at all yeah so one random thing I'm going to say for floatplane viewers were we're testing a new CloudFlare thing today and it sounds like it maybe isn't working that great so if it's super bad I'm sorry the test isn't working out maybe temporarily jump over elsewhere next up though we're gonna do Facebook we're gonna do it we're gonna do Facebook so Facebook had their f8 Developer Conference I'm sorry geez sorry guys so the f8 developer conference this was kind of one of the big first times that Mark Zuckerberg was oh yeah we're going to Luke's screen oh the future is private so Mark Zuckerberg wrote a blog post a couple of weeks ago or a month ago or something like that talking about like alright guys you know what Facebook has had a lot of these privacy gaffes up to now but you know what now we're committed to privacy you know more eels we're doing it this time the future is private and I mean there hasn't really been a horrible major privacy gaffe since he did that it's more like it's more like some news still kind of trickles out every once in a while that's like oh yeah back in 2016 they were doing this when they said they weren't yeah storing people's passwords in that plain text file well wait didn't that happen like literally weeks ago with the Instagram I don't remember because I deal with this news all the time but yeah I don't remember whether that was like oh we were just storing them like last year go back to the main thing go back to the main thing so yeah you should have just done this we thought this would be a fun idea for me to control it this time but no so like yeah we're gonna look at April 22nd news article yeah yeah yeah I think that might have been about them storing them previously yeah that makes sense let's see stored past tense well yeah I don't think they would say that when it's still currently that's true that's true you can't really trust them saying that we're not doing it now that's that's a fair point they don't seem to specify a long or a time look I'm I'm as anti-facebook as the next guy okay yeah I'm not trying to use it all anymore I I have not used Facebook for years I mean other than to like but like for specific functions yeah but you have an H a messenger somebody yeah I have an account yeah yeah so like yeah I think the biggest problem what did you not have me I know I tried I think I've deleted my account three times really keeps cracking every time I delete it I come back and it's never because like I want to you and I always be grudgingly come back and it's usually because like I need to contact someone yeah and the Yellow Pages isn't really a thing anymore but you're not going on there and like posting a status I don't post I don't do that post I don't post I used the I use messenger and I use a couple of the groups right I see I was I think I I wasn't a group and then we kind of like I kind of like stopped going to the like I didn't really have a reason to in the Facebook group anymore and so I'm out of that group and that was like my last vestige into it and so now I'm like I don't even got it set up so that I have an extension on I believe it's Chrome and Firefox where if I go to Facebook it deletes the entire feed and just puts like a random quote there so that there is no feed in the middle and there's just your messenger in your groups that's it oh yeah it's it's great well actually that segues really well into what we're talking about here so the app TFA developer conference one of the things that they focused on was they said we're redesigning Facebook around groups events and like kind of features meant to help people meet up in real life so there's like a meet people function because they were doing some dating thing as well yeah there's dating so it would just like go through the notes and see if there's something here yeah so at Facebook's f8 conference Mark Zuckerberg pledged to transform the companies approach to privacy while revealing major changes to Instagram and whatsapp he acknowledged that the social media behemoths had much work to do to rebuild trust with the global community I know we don't exactly have the strongest reputation very true so they're gonna roll out a redesign site that's simpler faster more immersive and puts communities at the center like I said so app users will notice immediate changes with a new desktop site is expected in the next few months and they're gonna make it easier to switch between public spaces and private groups where users can engage with groups of people who share your interests so yeah I totally track with that because I don't go on there for like social media use yeah no I don't go on there to like see what are my friends posting I go on there if I like have a specific function - so do you think this is them accepting that their audience is older yeah maybe yeah I actually saw an interesting take on it which was that because they're focusing more around groups and events it might like make the whole kind of we call it bubble like the okay yeah yeah yeah he called that look at my brain I think a couple works I think there's like another word that people normally put with it I don't remember but bubble yeah but like yeah like a bubble so only interact with the people that you want to interact with yeah you know yeah which is fine I guess but like yeah it's an interesting take on it so then you were saying the dating thing yeah there's also a dating thing I think it's called secret crush and one of the ways that it works is why is the way that it works is you select a certain amount of people that you want to be your secret crush and then they get a notification saying that someone ooh the added them is the secret crush but they don't know who yeah and then if they happen to add you back out of nowhere then then it tells each other yeah it's like tinder yeah if you like there's no like swiping it's just your friends on Facebook right but that I mean I feel like it's even more interesting because it's like someone you already know and you're like I wouldn't mind like dating that person so we all know like one dude who's just gonna secret crush every single one of them secret crushes him back like yes I did it I mean I think I'm married but if I have an interest income if I was single this would be like pretty interesting I'd be like oh I didn't know Ashley likes me but you wouldn't unless you flagged everyone on your list well if I yeah I'd have to flag them Ashley yeah yeah and ok one more one more interesting thing from the Facebook thing The Hiding likes so Instagram they're doing this in Canada actually yeah actually Canada is an extremely common testbed for mobile stuff oh yeah because we're extremely similar to Americans right and if it is annoying then we're like it's okay yeah I appreciate it so I actually saw some people posted about this as well like they they some people are already experiencing it yeah it's being rolled out yeah so like if you are a regular you you can't see you won't be able to see the number of likes that someone else's post has but you will be able to see how many likes your post has but you have to click through to see it so like just on the regular people it'll just be like liked by this person and others and you won't see how many people had liked it so is this like a why like is this a mental health move yeah I think so okay I think that and I think it's a good move to be honest because I think that I think it might be bad for business reasons they might be good for like yeah the mental health of the world reasons well do as a business do you need the public to see how many likes you got on one of you're like well no it's oh I don't necessarily think so what oh yeah no cuz you could still tell the business who's hiring you to wear their bathing suit that you got X amount of views yeah so yeah I have access to like analytics for you but I think it would be harder for those businesses that want to advertise that way to shop around yeah you'd have to like if you wanted to do business for with with an influencer you'd have to like ask them for their analytics yeah ahead of time and just like well hope that they're decently sized well I it doesn't say anything about followers so they'll be able to see like how many okay so they just want to know like how active yeah and I think it fit for older accounts from a mental health perspective I feel like it's good for people to post things to social media and then not like have to worry about getting notified if some likes I don't know I don't know because I feel like that's gonna have quite a draw to I didn't see anything about that oh man okay should we should we prioritize this one or this one I think we got it we got to do the title yeah you're right yeah all right until zgp you to support ray-tracing yes so at FMX is that a I'll go to your thing Luc's see I'm hurting on top of it yeah so um Intel announced at you know what FM X's I've never heard of that before I don't nobody stands for but I've heard of it yeah so Intel announced that their Z GPU architecture will support hardware acceleration of ray-tracing now this is for data center yes GPUs primarily they haven't made any announcements about like their gaming graphics cards that they have coming out eventually they haven't said anything about that but we know I mean it is I guess it's encouraging to know that at the architectural level it supports that yeah more at least up there even like thinking about it which isn't too surprising but having a confirm is nice now that's cool James wrote that this puts the architecture on par with cheering as far as DXR goes and makes it superior to solutions that rely on software or gpgpu acceleration which is basically saying it's hardware acceleration what we're better than software accelerant yeah yeah racing for big-budget movies like Pixar films is done traditionally on CPUs because they are a hundred percent accurate unfortunately they are also orders of magnitude slower so I mean this is yet another one of these entries in the Sega of Intel GPUs that I think that we're all trying to get excited about it we're like oh how great would it be if we had another competitor and that's in a space other than AMD and NVIDIA but because no offense AMD isn't doing that great right now in that space it's wonderful that AMD is doing fantastic and the CPU side of things hmm but it would be kind of nice if like AMD had to dual compete for a long time but didn't have the money or the resources to really do it right and Intel kind of does so if it ends up being Intel that has to do a compete and anybody's more like yeah CPUs are great that's morally better I think that would make more sense the strong should take the burden for the week and these been you know AMD you've been trying so hard and we love you tradition you know we love you I'm really happy that they they've got a winner right now their CPUs are doing awesome heck yeah really cool rise in 3000 generation coming soon good stuff we got a navvy GPU Oh supposed to come out by the end of 2019 not seven nanometers confident well personally the the rumors and leaks and stuff that I saw indicate that it's going to be like a replacement for Polaris instead of Vega so it's gonna be like their lower power yeah which kind of sucks because like I've been like following this like all these Navi e-news and stuff and I'm like oh it's gonna be it's gonna take out like cheering or pascal or whatever I'm like nope it's gonna be low power stuff again I'm not a yeah yeah that's really exciting though I have a little bit of a hard time getting properly actually excited about like non like like things that are definitely not for consumers there's stuff where it's like it's enterprise stuff but you can get your hands on it it's great this is like data center hardware so right ok that's cool that's definitely cool you know like hey technology and another company entering in space and all that kind of stuff kind of way but it's not super likely that a bunch of people that I will interact with will get their hands on it it's less cool and then it's it's if it ends up being a rumor that this is coming to consumer stuff it'll also be hard for me to personally get excited about until I'm like yes it is actually definitely coming well you're talking about ray tracing on Intel GPUs yeah see this is what we know dedicated hardware I mean well we don't okay we don't know this but the PlayStation 5 is supposed to have ray tracing that's what the the system architect said he's like it's based on an AMD GPU and it's gonna support ray tracing so I'm like if the PS 5 does ray tracing I actually Intel better freaking do it I saw your tech linked thing with like that sort of reaction is that was perfect it was like the ray tracing console masteries know console master race pc plebs what have you done tech news reporting through a would you even call that through a console lens no no but uh like like for not an iteration of a specific type like not the Xbox one X not the Xbox one s but the original Xbox one oh yeah it's like this is a much larger step than we got from the S to the X or from the one yeah I think when I first started at NCIX I think like ps4 launching then yeah that was like so that was 2013 yeah I know it was around that line but I think wait longer like that winter mm-hmm so like I think one of the first netlink dailies we did was about the Xbox one oh that's kind of cool ya know it gets a little wild because right when the consoles first launched they usually actually like really competitive right and everything gets all has a challenger and then a couple years ago playing it's like it's like oh it's the ps4 get rekt oh the ps4 is way more yeah it's fun though I I actually really enjoy new console launches because even it's I mean it's cool too it's a little bit harder to judge consoles compared to each other so that's kind of fun because you have to do a lot of like more deeper dives cuz not as easy to like swap and component out and Testament there's alright but then it's also fun to see the PC space have really solid competition on terms of price of performance right as the new console just drops and you're like oh this is gonna be a really interesting console generation launch because I feel like diffuser also really expensive for you so is RAM gp's are expensive but also the like gaming ecosystem and the the environment is kind of like streaming is becoming a big thing and like the the Xbox one X and the ps4 Pro are like some of the most like PC side like and then rate racing coming out now and as far as I know both of the new consoles are going to have key most support yeah they already do I think yeah yeah it's not like why wouldn't they still have that so yeah they have ray-tracing strong graphics very like PC like architecture keyboard a mouse support right like prepackaged yeah well progression computers you plug into your TV right that only play games well I think like I hopefully I've hope every times we report on something that Microsoft is doing like with the Xbox ecosystem and PC gaming like they've said so many times they're like we care about PC gamers and we want it you know we want we want you to use the Xbox Live app on your PC that a discord or whatever like come on guys we're adding spotify support to the game bar on Windows 10 like come on so like I keep every time they make an announcement like this I'm like oh do they actually care like are they actually gonna try to kind of unify these like Xbox and PC gaming units ecosystems like unify as in like you buy an xbox and it basically acts as a PC like a prebuilt gaming PC or something you know yeah yeah it would be cool if you could do that all I want all I wanna sell on your xbox 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first one oh there's two there's two see it's been I I think I watched the first one when I was like a little kid yeah but I haven't like seen it since so all I know is like booted or excellent yeah I'm people are gonna hate me I'm sorry guys look I have a cursory knowledge of Bill and Ted I'm pretty excited which probably makes me old but whatever should talk about LTX now should we talk about the thing you really love so I almost I went all the way up Tarek so I'm so excited but we can talk about that's a good idea well there's some updates I don't know if we talked about the updates last time what updates are see those updates they're bolded oh they're bolded guys oh I don't know if we talked about this okay updates LTX 2019 just case you didn't know which would be surprising Dreamhack and lioness media group are coming together and making this awesome convention slash huge land party in Vancouver at the Vancouver Convention Center you should check it out website is not linked here that's pretty sure if you search LTX 2019 it'll come up it'll come it's pretty solid they're organizing panels for the main stage so they're wondering what you guys want to see discussed hit them up with ideas on the forum or on Twitter at LTX Expo and yes the ex and Expo are redundant but don't worry about that I'm upset as of this morning so there's probably less now there was only 16 Bui o TYC tickets left b ox eos if you want to be Ock you better be on over to the site and get a ticket buddy like actually cuz they're they're gonna be gone snazzy cue from snazzy labs that's who cool and where Nelson are also gonna be at LTF and hardware connects Demetri and Eber yeah I haven't seen those guys well I've never met Clint Quinn but I sort of know Dimitri Niebuhr that's exciting have you met then you sort you said you sort of know I sort of know it like I've met them okay yeah yeah they're super cool I mean I wouldn't say that we talk all the time no I think Dimitri and I we have each other on on Facebook that's fine so there's like you know you guys get invited to each other's like Super Bowl parties no because he lives way the heck yeah that'd be hard yeah yeah yeah you could do telepresence just like you're gonna watch the Super Bowl with me he's like I have stuff to do hey there it's like really late for you but day in the computer you live in there you don't get to sleep but yeah come to LTX guys it's gonna be great July 27th and 28th is that right that is correct sweet I'm super excited my whole floatplane team is coming in locally heck yeah we're doing the like meet up at that time so we're gonna hang out after LTX and everyone's gonna meet up for LT exes can be great you know be really cool as if we had an actual floodplain and I don't know why I'm suggesting going because I really you haven't seen this Oh like the computer thing yeah oh yeah yeah yeah that'll be fun but there's also the Vancouver Convention Center can technically receive flow plates so I was sure I was running with this like idea for the problem is it was it was just there's no way the ROI on this would ever work but I wanted vias and I to fly into the convention on a float plane riding on top of the wing speaking of crazy ideas epic games buys oh here we go I was waiting tense okay so this I've been wanting to talk about this to for a while yeah because I have feelings me too I don't know what kind of arms over this yeah you want to hit me up oh I'll hit you up dude cuz I know all about the streaming setup and this is how you do it boom boom done sorry Onix is joining EPIK family oh that's so green they didn't they didn't just buy a game they didn't just buy out the rights to platform a game yeah they bought a whole studio about the whole thing so now I'll temper the the initial like kind of outrage like by the fact that apparently the people who made psionics this is what I read in a thing the people who started psionics kind of already know a lot of the people at Epic Games and they like have these like connections so this isn't like a big giant company coming in and force brute-forcing you know the company to do right although it might be that I don't know but that's some evidence to the contrary yeah so the big problem for me about this was that the initial announcement was kind of like vague they're like we're buying psionics rocket league is coming to the store and in the meantime they said rocket League will be supported on Steam and thereafter Steam users can look forward to continued support but there is nothing like concrete that says like everyone on Steam will get the same updates there will be cross-platform support like you can play multiplayer still if you buy the game on Epic Games Store will you still be able to play cross-platform with steam users like there is there is an editor's note at the bottom of the article yeah it says we want to clarify something for you which like isn't this isn't good enough that's what I'm saying super clear yeah but it says we want to clarify for you after today's news rocket league is and remains available on Steam anyone who owns our colleague through Steam can still play it and can look forward to continued support I know exactly what you just said right for how long you know yeah and like does I'm sure it does but this would be the time to clarify a lot better than it is like two line thing at the bottom of an article does support include like feature updates mmm which it almost certainly does but they should spell that out and I think this is a problem nothing up to question this is one of the big problems that a lot of people you know caught up in this Steam versus epic game store fight have with epic game store is they've kind of been like kind of wishy-washy about people's concerns regarding oh there's not many features on epic game store and you know how long are these timed exclusives are they always exclusives are you gonna keep doing this and like stealing games from other stores are you gonna kind of stop eventually what's what's going on guys one thing that I thought was interesting was that Tim Sweeney the CEO of Epic Games tweeted recently I don't have the tweet here but he tweet back to us oh yeah he tweeted recently that if if steam I don't know if you saw this if Steam committed to matching their developer revenue share so valve takes a 30% cut I believe it's something pretty beefy yeah and the big news teams only takes a 12% cut okay also those 18 but you're probably right I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure it's 88% to the developers well yeah yeah you're right right so if they're like if steam matches our revenue sharing model we will stop with the exclusives we'll stop it immediately and back off that's what Tim Sweeney said on Twitter and I think I think I'd say that because he knows that valve isn't gonna do that cuz like to me I see that and I'm kind of like oh all right well then all valve has to do is just kind of match their revenue share yeah but I think valve has like too many things going on now you I've been talking a lot what are your feelings well I'm so conflicted yeah we're talking about this a little bit I tried to not think about this since I heard about it because I knew we're gonna talk about on the show even that thing that you just mentioned with the revenue share thing like I've got tons of feelings about that too because steam is kind of this like old right lethargic giant at this point like everyone in the PC community as far as I can tell loves them but realistically they've just kind of existed forever and like yeah not done a ton for quite a while and I think that's what's made an obscene amount of money yeah not done a lot with it about this whole situation is that I feel like valve has kind of grown a bit complacent yeah like you know you have complete your Ubisoft you know an Activision Blizzard like making their own launchers and Bethesda and but they're not like really making an attempt to kind of come at steam they're just like hey our games are on our platform this Walter and a lot of times our games are also on Steam you know Ruby soft sometimes still releases Ubisoft games on Steam yeah but at the game store is coming out here and being like we need to shake this up and I feel like that's it's it's kind of conflicting because on the one hand you know you know that steam has kind of become complacent yeah and that they have all these really cool features and they've been there since beginning you know basically I'd like they do to be clear they have way better features oh yeah big game story for sure like it's a better situation over there yeah it's just they've been around forever and a lot of these features are pretty old and some of the newer features that come out are not that substantial hmm right like it it definitely feels like valve does the minimum viable yeah thing that they need to do in order to not make people horribly mad at them yeah you know I think this is really well illustrated by the fact that we don't have half-life 3 yet yes and I'm upset because they didn't need to because I we make you know like 30 percent of what everybody else does yeah yeah so whatever just make tons of man we don't need to let's not worry about it they're like let's make another dota card game dad some hats I want to get over it I want to get over half-life 3 but here's the thing oh this leads well into another thing did you see that Valve index yeah so like because they have a flagship VR game apparently coming on yeah with the index yeah but what does that mean it's the worst because it might be having a PR would be really cool but it won't be with then and if it was half-life VR is it actually Meany good I'm upset look it might be good I'm so upset I don't know I didn't get an index know how that makes me feel what do you mean maybe order it well it sold out like him immediately you're the VR guy yeah but it was just gone yeah I think in 15 or 20 minutes it's yeah yeah I was busy I mean I'll probably you know probably good eventually but like yeah well probably I mean I suspect last media group will get one hopefully that out hopefully but anyways I like I famous so for us we cross-platform thing with psionics and raleigh will be fine my reasons for that is because they support such a wide variety of cross-platform already they support cross-platform friends lists as far as I know there was a fairly a personality yes that's what I meant there's a fairly recent update that stepped away from the steam friends list which is maybe not that surprising anymore I was actually pretty happy they did because maybe they did it because I kind of think they did because I think they're prepping themselves for that and they I think they should have leaned on that more in their article thing if you've been like yeah steams gonna be supported we separated the friends list from the steam layer so you could work on the the epic game store but if you notice you're on Steam and it's working so we made sure that's fine like that probably would have been a good idea yeah but I think it'll keep working for everyone I love to watch I only play the ice hockey mode because I'm weird but I love to watch yeah like various rocket League creators sunless condomless cuz amazing great I always also watch like left Amir and a bunch of other guy I don't know those guys yeah he's more on the competitive side so most cons just a beautiful human being but in a smooth voice he does sultry rocket League essays if you could imagine that it's possible but anyways I love watching all that kind of stuff even though I don't play with the soccer ball I just play ice hockey had a fairly high level I'm by myself that's but this this does bother me because I've been playing ragga League relatively seriously for years and it's scary when something you care about a lot is getting touched what I'm hoping for is steam side of things I mean it's gonna leave the steam store but outside of that I hope it just doesn't get affected and I hope that it going to the epic game store and it being in the news because of this by a out and all that kind of stuff is going to boom its popularity right because while there's definitely still a strong community around rocket League it could use a little bit its bit it's been out for quite a while that's one of those usual boosts that's one of the strong points of this acquisition one of the few rays of see this is the thing it looks so depressing until you kind of look into and you're kind of probably be fine yeah like Epic Games has this like obscene amount of money yeah somehow I guess they just have buckets of money to pay off people to be exclusives but that money is going to help psyonix kind of like inject some more life into their eSports yeah ambitions which is good that would that would be fantastic I love rocket League eSports it's one of my favorite things to watch eSports wise I used to love watching Starcraft oh yeah and I'd stay up till weird hours in the morning and watch GSL and watched live Korean games and I was super into it right now Stark I've kind of died a little bit and then I got I'm kind of into rocket League I mostly like watching the YouTube videos but I have enjoyed watching squishy muffins and all those crazy guys but I don't know I hope it goes well I I wish them the best even though it makes me a little salty I'm not happy that it's leaving steam because if one of my friends wants to get into it it's usually the path of least resistance we're going to get them into it on steam if I have to start getting people to install the epic games launcher that is going to be a problem I will say I will say that like because this particular instance isn't as like to me it doesn't seem as horrible of a proposition because rocket League psionic has already psionics has already done the work to Ross working so like if they're like oh I want to buy rocket League and then you know they just go to the rocket League site and the way they do that is by downloading launchers oh yeah yeah and then they just come in and they tell you their username and then you add them within the game if that still works and all the cross-platform stuff works fine it's like not the were sweet but like epic games need to make needs to make sure that they do this for every game that they do this too you know and that's that that's the the fear I think bit of a kicker that another thing that I want to consider here is raagh League again made quite a while ago still doing pretty good but and I mean their season passes hopefully those are doing well I play the game so freaking much that I buy the season pass because I'm like my dollar per hour in this game right now is absurd Rhys can take a little bit more money yeah there you go that's fair I'll vote with my wallet in the direction that most people don't I think and try to support the thing because I believe in the thing but I can't imagine they're doing amazing Sonics yeah yeah so the ingest of money is going to hopefully increase long-term support for the game which we've kind of discussed already but it's also probably just good for the creator's well I don't I haven't heard of psionics working on necessarily anything else I could be ignorant here but I think this is kind of all they got this is their this is a big once trick pony yeah so I mean trick rocket car if it sometimes if you want the thing to survive you gotta do some stuff that's a little uncomfortable so I don't know ain't that the truth yeah and I you don't love about rocket League too is that it seems like it it doesn't have like mechanics it has mechanics that you don't see in any other game like it's not like it's a MOBA you know where there are 18 different MOBAs that all are the same yeah rocket League is rocket League there is no other game like it so if we can if that like ecosystem can survive yeah through an influx of cash from evil Tim Sweeney you know that's Darth Vader I got a lot of money bud and it'll feed your family for a year which and your family starving would you take it but I love it I yeah I don't know very very interesting thing yeah do we ever do have we talking about different things in our I think we're it's sort of done here's a here's one last question all right if half-life 3 yeah is a videogames buys half-life oh my gosh can you imagine let's just draw so much money that whatever such an interesting like alternate universes like proposition like they buy the rights to half-life we get half-life 3 the thing that steam and valve fans have been wanting for years and and they hate they've they've got worked up to hate Epic Games they're like oh they're the worst thought we hate them so much and they're like but we have half-life 3 yeah it's not even it's not even that they like bought the rights to it they just funded the entire project yeah yeah and it mean and it's good yeah yeah what would you do if you interesting to see how you do yeah sorry what was your question up something with the index you had such a you changed it and that was brilliant would you would you buy it if the epic Oh games store cat half-life 3 isn't exclusive I think you have to yeah like depending obviously I don't think every human on the planet has to buy it but like I think I would have to it's the amount of pure curiosity oh you know I don't think it's gonna be like I want I really want it to be but I don't think it's gonna be half-life 3 I don't think it I don't think that'll be an IKE ship vr game that they're gonna release is half way 3 or even in a half-life universe I think that's gonna be really cool if it's a portal thing probably or like a left 4 dead 3 thing or whatever left 4 dead VR but I think that the honestly I think that for valve the half-life ship has sailed I don't think we'll ever get it and but this is so annoying cuz every time this news comes up I'm like oh maybe please and you know they like that and hate it at the same time yes I know Gabe Newell is like kind of openly said like this is but knowing but at the same time gabe newell has said half-life is annoying well like the community constantly be like hey give us a flick through we want that thing that you said you were working on and we're definitely going to give us and then you gave up on yeah shut up about that I'm rolling all my my love Marni Marni more money like rolling on the floor at his house mr. 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