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okay it is when show time again it has been a very challenging three weeks so I was talking to talking to a couple of people about it today because it was such an astonishing realization for me that I just had to share it with everybody in the last three weeks I have spent only six out of 15 days working on our like daily content Wow five days I was out protect show down yeah three days I've been basically out for our og rig reboot yeah and then one day I was out for ultra-wide festival so you throw in a fuel and I have actually had almost no time to work on like our normal content so on the one hand it's great that we're like getting any of it done so that's cool but on the other hand like I haven't actually gotten to goof around with tech in so long like I okay the kinds of projects that I have on the go right now okay I have a thread Ripper IHS transplant to do so I want to put the vanity Linus tech tips one on a working chip okay so yeah it's nice if I can never do it I want to break out the old chiller oh I put you thing like these are things you're progressive and goes no I'm making no progress I want to go sub-zero I want to do the final office update for the for the window TV okay yeah um I you know what I should I should bring up Trello I should have a look at all the other like crazy stuff that I'm supposed to be doing right yeah I don't get to play with that kind of technology anymore but like you need to change your handle man but Xiaomi me mix too yeah I gotta get my review down to that like look look at the screen on this thing it's upside down well yeah Wow but look at the whole thing whole thing's a screen yeah basically yeah and that's cool it's not square and software is terrible it's not first terrible software needs some work I don't that kind of tech but boiler I'm not gonna say your whole handle he need to figure out someone else dude has been like contributing to the sales open source which is super cool and some cool things have happened this week we had that meeting thing which I'm sure didn't help at all with your being able to work on me yeah content stuff but floatplane floatplane progress right yeah yeah ah hopefully dude if you're out there take the job come work with us yeah that would be great we we need we need skilled developers yeah yeah other cool top most insane SSD setup so six 960 pros running in raid zero nice on thread Ripper nice like actually that one progress is being made cuz Ivan's working on it but anyway the point is I think the most insane is is to sit up is actually when that guy tied together like 50 of them like six years ago so I'm just saying I'm just saying like you might have used newer technology but like you said SSD setup in general so like you're just saying anyways for news this week we have a bunch of different stuff one NCIX tech tips is like gone it's in limbo that's for sure for now mmm-hmm maybe coming back google announces the pixel to and pixel to excel and Intel is renaming their KB Lake Pentiums it's super dumb it's like the dumbest thing ever yeah and oh right we'll roll the intro now booth it's interesting because we have a few pieces of Intel news in here which has not been super common for a while has all been AMD news but it's like not good stuff um you know I actually probably wanted to talk about that because yeah actually know what yeah I do have some I do have some stuff to say about that are you gonna talk about this by the way yeah I will okay oh yeah yeah sorry max I'll do that for you I totally forgot I remoted into my computer and then I just didn't do it nope my computer uses a real password yeah unlike everything else um sorry guys hold on a second okay I just saved a v3 and you're good okay all right so you know what why don't we why don't we tackle let's do the dumb intel news first and then let's do the dumber cool dumb reaction to intel news because like honestly I was pretty I was pretty frustrated with the community's reaction to certain aspects of coffee lake and the launch and our review of it okay be kind of haven't looked into this it was it was pretty dumb so num lock 21 post it on the forum the original article here is from tech power up and you rats hold on Intel to rebrand Pentium as Pentium gold oh oh yes ah yeah wait why okay so it's all part of like an overarching stupid thing hold on I'm just gonna turn apertures what I'm so confused is this only for the hot oh sorry one second guys this is kind of silly so low power low power Gemini Lake s OCS will bear the Pentium silver brand besides seller own is their Pentium bronze I don't see a Pentium bronze so there's Pentium silver and Pentium gold so basically as far as I can tell Intel hired some kind of new like senior VP of branding or marketing or like a product naming or whatever that position is where you actually make the decision about what to call the product and they did the unthinkable they managed to make Intel's naming scheme worse it's impressive you know like to give them props yeah they found a way because I had the will they had Intel or determine Intel hasn't named for a consumer okay like I'm not talking about you know Xeon or Itanium little tree Itanium sounds pretty cool what's gold Trillo said it's a codename Intel's code names are so good yeah a lot of the time sometimes they're done skull trail although I was so componentry oh my god I mean even stuff like Alpine Ridge yeah like that's pretty cool be like yeah I want like an Intel Alpine Ridge hell yeah that's a Thunderbolt controller by the way it into him I mean even Thunderbolt has a cool name but on the CPU side okay so back go way back in the day it was like the 286 and the 386 and 486 and all that made sense I know their numbers but people remember you got your generation and you got your your instruction set okay max ad City Street right cool then they got to five and they were like no let's not do 586 let's go Pentium and you know what not bad maybe part of it is that Pentium has basically existed since I've like had a computer well no actually that's not true we had a 386 that we then upgraded to a 40 stand that change though you're going something wrong slightly less Ultra Hardcore yeah you're going your your and then you and then you go generations of pentium okay and then Celeron I was like that's true okay tell her why not then came core what if it was actually how many cores they had then sure yeah so if a core to was a dual core yeah but yeah but then you're like you're backed into a corner cuz what are you gonna call that what are you gonna call the next generation you would have to call it the core to to do remember core 2 quad though yes core to do low core 2 quad so you would have to say I mean you still have to do it you don't have to say yeah I've got an Intel Core 2 Duo dual core CPU bad no and then you got these indecipherable numbers at the end of them and in Intel's defense there is a legend on their site for how to decipher those yeah but you know many of the numbers like never ended up getting incremented at all so they might as well just not had them and Intel plans out their product roadmap so far in advance like do they really need to leave you know like a 50 there just in case they need to use it like they never do it so anyway anyway so we've been stuck with core core i3 Core i5 core i7 for a long time and then at least core i9 made sense in the sense that it was a continuation of something that's been established over the last 10 years if you want to show off how ridiculous this is just show our Intel naming videos on tech wiki yeah I think it's got like 6 million views like what is uh what is core i7 videos yeah hold on here we'll bring this up seven million like it keeps on trucking this one where's at core i3 Core i5 and core i7 as fast as possible seven million frickin views alright what is the core I nine that's got a million since three months ago like people like clearly understand it a little better now than they used to but at least core I nine had the advantage of continuity and I photos people are shopping for it as much expensive and the other issue too though is that they did kind of screw it up because if core I nine had simply been high-end desktop yeah then sure but they've got core i7s and core i5s on the same platform and Oh men seventy seven forty K or X is it an axe I can't even remember but whatever the like the KB Lake chips on X $2.99 they were super done when X 299 launched now they are like super super mega ultra dumb because now that coffee lake has launched 77 40 X you would only be buying one of those if you were just a complete idiot or you were a professional overclocker looking for like perk or records or something cuz coffee lake is overclocking pretty well five gigahertz it looks pretty attainable and not just for like people who are sorting through trays of CPUs so that's pretty cool anyway coming back to Pentium so they brought back the Pentium brand after having gotten rid of it for many years and they assigned it to their cheapo products and now it's kind of like like that feels a little bit like kind of sad yeah it's like reusing what used to be like top-of-the-line like cream of the cream and like going for like a nostalgia sale to someone who you like I guess in the sense it's like it's if it's competitive with Intel's like old CPUs like you'd have to be running something old enough to be a Pentium for it to be an upgrade right maybe that was the rationale I don't know like at least they didn't at least they didn't pull an AMD where they brought back the FX branding Oh for like a super super pain stream product because remember guys or maybe not remember like imma let you know young people FX used to be $1000 yeah period you didn't buy an FX for less than $1000 that was it it was let's cream to the cream and then they brought back FX as like super ultra mega rebranded stuff we had that's cool so it might sell some stuff yeah exactly so anyway um back to gold as far as I can tell Intel brought in some kind of rebranding executive who renamed all these eons according to this bronze silver gold platinum naming scheme and it makes no sense at all I'd love to see internal numbers to see if anything changed when they did that no of course not oh I know but I would like to be able to represent my argument with facts and it's so confusing because again Intel's server products the product names were a little confusing like something did like I like a 2687 W but like you need such specific things yeah it doesn't really matter if it's confusing you're gonna work them all anyway and if you know what a W is a W is like a high power workstation ship then you'd know it's not gonna have the same like max core account as the ones that are designed for like tons of virtualization or whatever else and it's gonna have like higher boost clocks is probably got a higher TDP like you could kind of piece it together if you were somewhat familiar with the lineup now like a gold could be a high-performance view that fits in this socket or that one or like this dual platform one it has to do with like the raw performance but the features get left behind and so now we're just we're just like gonna just tack gold onto stuff like I just it's just frustrating so the name change comes with a refreshed case badge and a slightly modified box design and it'll be effective November 2nd 2017 so basically gold which is I don't want to say always tacky but it's pretty much always tagged usually tacky unless it's a rank in a competitive video game it's tacky well now hold on golden black can look pretty good I mean as like a product naming thing oh oh yeah that know that like how dead is that like don't the last time anyone did like bronze silver gold you can use gold peacefully it just has to be used properly like remember when we were doing the support tiers on the forum which incidentally our bronze silver and gold we were talking about it and I was just like you know what I just don't have time to think about this let's just do bronze silver and gold but like but what's your Excuse I think ours is also pretty easy there isn't any confusing like it doesn't actually follow the features it only follows brought performs like no there's really not much else you get yeah you get a different colored badge and get access to a better forum thank you for your contribution that's ultimately what it is so it's not a better forum everything happens in the bronze forum spoiler alert yes there's a counting to ten thousand thread in the bronze forum and the silver and gold forums are pretty much cobwebs hey do you guys want to do you guys want to get some really cool insight into the way that YouTube does or doesn't deliver video notifications to subscribers this is pretty cool so hold on I'm actually gonna load up another another tab here to give you guys some context for this it was pretty cool and I have some I have some good Intel news in a moment here but here let's go ahead let's bring up some analytics for this bad boy surprisingly a lot of people said no about what people wanting to see this really there was definitely quite a few people who said yes as well but well whatever it's cool you'll like it controls so here's the dashboard for one of our recent releases so you can have a look at what a video might typically do in the first hour so this is our core i7 8700 K review sitting at 690 thousand videos and in the first hour it did about eighty four thousand followed by seventy two thousand this is a weird launch time so this BK curve looks a little bit different than it normally would but it's also not totally atypical yeah alright so in the last 60 minutes whoa there goes a fly it did about thirty four hundred views oh you guys can't see that whatever it's now you take my word for it thirty four hundred views or so okay so YouTube's algorithm is so I don't use the word smart are you but what I'll say is it is so aggressive about targeting content that it it thinks might be me trying to use my subscriber base as a way to communicate with the people that watch Linus tech tips it's so sensitive to that that check this out the when show and stream announcement video I specifically uploaded at the same time every week with the same title every week and YouTube's algorithm has got this thing crushed to the point where in the first hour it is probably gonna do like let's see we're only doing about a hundred and a seventh of an hour I think yeah something along those lines it has only managed to do about thirty six hundred views in the last twenty minutes or so pretty crazy that's nuts so you see okay this is an extreme example and this is something where you know what quite honestly I could name it something else and that would help more people get notifications for it but intentionally I'm feeding into the algorithm here allowing the algorithm to take the people who aren't interested in wine show and just not pump in the notification like I'm okay with that because we just do it because we've always done it and if it boosts the live viewers a little bit then like great they know we're live that's cool so the that do rely on that notification if we don't put it up some people do miss Lamont show but what this is a fair amount of this to be clear I'm glad max won and the chat said I see the YouTube video I ignore it and I hit the twitch bookmark so that might be part of why it gets buried either way either but but that's one of the reasons that we we continue to do it just in case people are lying on it yeah but this is an extreme example of the way that YouTube does manipulate the way that it the way that it propagates new video information to someone who is subscribed and it's it's one of those things that's frustrating it's one of the reasons that we're we're starting floatplane and I was just kind of inspired to talk about it for some reason I don't remember why anymore but we can we can move on to our next topic um alright so I was a little I was actually a little disappointed in our in our viewers reaction to the coffee like video like there was an astonishing amount of ignorance in some of the comments with respect to how how we would have manipulated what benchmarks we used like and like the problem is that the arguments just don't even make any sense like someone was upset that we didn't include the Verizon 7 1800 X as though we were trying to conceal AMD's superiority and we didn't want AMD to seem like a better value the 1800 X is not a very good value the best value Rison 7 is the 1700 there's 1800 X is what like 200 megahertz higher than the 1700 X what why how would that hurt AMD's value prop to throw in a processor that costs $100 morons clock 200 megahertz higher how are we hurting AMD's appearance of value by choosing one of their chips that is a better value now one thing that we didn't discuss in our video and honestly the funny thing is this like barely even came up people are so fixated on you know comparisons that they don't like or and/or don't understand or whatever else that they didn't even notice this one what we should have discussed was some of the differences in platform cost like the fact that I don't 350 board is cheaper than a Z 370 board but just a number of people that are like when we release a video that's positive about Intel they're like wow you guys sure changed your tune so fast about being sponsored by them no we changed our tune because they released a different product that's different than the one we said we didn't like it's it's called it's called looking at what's in front of you and evaluating it instead of just going in having already decided the answer yeah yeah is it like is it as bad as the oh my god they didn't benchmark with Wow why can't today in the neighborhood I know right now the future of OpenGL Vulcan yeah hard to say hard to say but anyway apparently we're doing damage control over Intel forcing customers to buy a new motherboard on the same socket I wonder how much Intel paid him for this nothing nice so the way that that remote is in common and unfortunately I can't get anyone to go on the record about it so I can't say who my source is but what happened was Intel designed their platform for two generations of CPUs the same way they have for the last 10 years that's how it went that's how it goes down you cannot like it and that's totally cool and I totally get it but they designed it for two generations they did not design it for a 6 core processor and there were physical things that were redesigned good Intel have made it work off the record I've got indications that they might have been able to in fact probably could have but would it have been a janky solution that might not have had the reliability that Intel's known for in all likelihood yes so was this partially a marketing decision possibly personally I'm pretty annoyed that is e3 70 for example cannot hold a skylake or a KB Lake chip but I totally understand why Intel wouldn't want to put their stellar reputation for a reliability on the line by allowing you to put a new coffee leg chip in your Zee 270 board without having fully validated it and here's another thing you guys have to understand just because Intel has a spec and just because like it should work doesn't mean that every motherboard manufacturer out there built properly to the spec it doesn't mean that every SKU will work and when you're someone like Intel if you say it's gonna work it is supposed to work yeah like building to spec a lot of the times you make product differentiation by finding ways to not build the spec you end up making a lot more people mad by trying to accommodate them sometimes than you do by just going don't forget it it doesn't work because something that you guys are probably missing here you look at the motivation you go well it's probably money-grubbing so let's look at something like until octane which they opted which they opted to support on only z2 70 was it if I recall correctly obtained roses have been unwinnable yeah I'm sorry Oh blah blah blah blah blah opt-in commit I'm looking to upgrade FPS ma'am essentially number two I want to know if not I lost my pun tolerance okay I think it I think it is I think it is only 200 series hold on there's a there's a thing on puget obtained yeah okay cool so it's only supported on z2 70 so the reason for the it's just an MDOT to stick that's all it is it's an SSD using the MDOT two standard so feasibly Intel could have supported it on z170 and a lot of people might look at this and go well their motivation must be money grubbing they just want me to run out and buy a new motherboard do you really think anyone at Intel is stupid enough to think that anybody's gonna go buy a new motherboard for obtain if you had enough money to buy a new motherboard you would buy a bhoot SSD by dedicated SSD octane is a value solution it's not money-grubbing if they were money-grubbing they would shoehorn in the support not validate it fully and just let people buy it and if it works it works and if it doesn't it doesn't Ubisoft because the reason that they decided not to support it on z170 and this is I'm not going to quote my sort source this was kind of off the record I'm actually not even sure if I should be talking about it was that depending on the implementation a cretin you gotta remember this isn't just like enthusiasts you know gaming boards or whatever this is across the lake Dells and acer's and Lenovo's of the world the implementation on z170 of MDOT - might not have been up to snuff and they can't rely on these guys to roll out UEFI BIOS updates to build in the support because that would be required so it would end up being a very confusing message if they wanted to sell more units they would want a wider install base of supported products da don't you think so anyway I'm not necessarily happy about everything they did here but you also have to understand that it's not always as simple as like they're bad people and they just want your money they do just want your money they're a business but also understand so does AMD so does NVIDIA none of them are your friends right that was gonna bring us really well into the hole off spec thing why are people getting different coffee lake performance results so this was inspired by a tweet from Jays two cents and was originally posted on the forum by oh dang it there's no there's no who posted you on the forum think James was originally posted on the forum by oh man oh oh this was just a discussion in our own thread okay well fine fine James but here's Jays here's Jays tweet yeah I showed that in twitch chat too cool so you can see that our number and Jays number are pretty close yeah but then Paul's is a chunk down and then Kyle's is even further down for that and there's a lot of differentiation this is a significant difference though yeah with us and Jay sitting around the 1,550 range and Paul and Kyle being in for in the 1400s and 1200 s so one of the theories and this was I all's chip compared to Jays chip is almost a 300 point difference yeah and that is it that is a difference in Cinebench that's like you know one of your cores isn't working level of difference in Cinebench so I can't I can't believe he goes by gaben junior on the forum but anyway Anthony from our team I was talking about how gamers Nexus had found that their gigabyte board was giving them less voltage than specified and he was wondering if maybe a Seuss did the same thing in the opposite direction to give us better results so it seems like there's a known issue that has to do with the board's not being fully tuned for coffee lake yet where the voltage is being applied might be affecting performance so we actually have a review coming on the msi vortex g25 where our original script that i reviewed with alex a couple of days ago had this comment on how when we stress tested it it would run at four point whatever gigahertz turbo for like I don't know three seconds and then it drops like 3.2 whoa so we got a new bios fixed so it looks like this launch might have been a little rushed now unfortunately we weren't able to comment on that in our coffee lake review because as a general rule we have made a habit of using only one particular brand of motherboard for our launch reviews because we have found that it means we're less likely to end up with a 1,200 points in avenged score when we were supposed to have 1550 Wow interesting it's like that's paid off for us so far but anyway Anthony also said that one of his hunches is vrm throttling thanks to the lower specified voltages and that could be affecting their CPU scores and it seems like that would make perfect sense for something like that what happened with that with that pre-built machine yep anyway to be clear it's not like I'm crapping on MSI or gigabyte or as rock or a Seuss even it's not like they don't make mistakes they do they all do but what it looks like might have happened with this launch is that it got it might have been kind of rushed if you're not making mistakes you're not trying hard enough yeah you're not go you're not going fast and frantically and out yeah by faster so anyway it looks like that has a fair bit to do with with people's coffee like results being kind of all over the place like even even some of ours were like we have some gaming results for our coffee lake in spite of its faster clock speed and nearly identical architecture and more cache is getting beat by the 7700 K in gaming and people look this is impossible these numbers are fake news it's like ok first of all you guys can't even decide what agenda I'm fighting for I was on Intel aside I sure as heck wouldn't be talking about how the new chip doesn't perform as long you're fast and loose just yeah whoever can hand over the cheque fast yeah like boom from minute to minute yeah yeah you know what when the Mitch brought a when the meteorite I could be changing sides like that if your CPU box doesn't have a few hundreds in it you ain't getting a good review that's right figure it out um actually please don't do that so any it looks like it looks like that could be to do with something like a windows scheduling issue which was one of the things that affected rise in seven performance back when it launched I mean am I saying that it's for sure that no but twelve threads is more to handle than eight and we already know from the past that hyper threading can affect gaming performance negatively so that might be one of the reasons that and we didn't get an eighty 600k I almost want to do a separate review of it because they are kneecapping the i-5 like more every generation yeah the eighty six hundred K is a significantly slower chip unless you overclock it used to be what everyone purchased yeah and Intel has gradually tried to move people the i7 they've tried to brand the i7 better and apparently that's not enough so they are well I bet you that's a part of the existence of i9 it's trying to be like i7 isn't the most expensive one that's an interesting thought well actually I've never thought about this before either but when you go to the store at the shampoo bottle example you know they're like this is a way too expensive one this is the way to cheap one I'm gonna buy the one in the middle or if you take four of them I'm gonna buy the third one because it's like more value than really expensive one but I'm still getting a nice premium thing maybe that's some of the thought process there alright so oh you know why the way people in the chat still doing the yes and no meme that's impressive I know we haven't even done it we should do a shirt yeah but now it's gonna be too late I know it'll be like a month or two until we have this shirt it's our own dead meme yeah I said we 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why they can't do it wait this course start this course tire even still do that yeah look this is an M 65 or whatever yeah is it and they have like their HS which is headset like HS one hundreds if you go back Corsair started moving away from it though they've gone with like void Pro yeah like what the heck is that I know what it is I know what it is but like if I was a consumer who wasn't super into this stuff what is it anyway so they were upset and I told them I would address it on the LAN show cuz we called them stickers and this okay so the key caps are textured ABS plastic that are printed and treated with a UV coating this is a standard process they are not stickers what we were complaining about was that dual shot would be better and because it's a lot more durable and quite frankly it can be UV coated all you want and it can be or it can be treated and what every coating helps it is still a sticker it's a good sticker but it is a thing that it's stuck on top okay yeah Thank You Jake it's not a sticker it's not a sticker so what I want to say is look I'm sorry it was unfair to call it a sticker it's not a sticker no but it isn't dual shot and as far as I'm concerned a $150 keyboard has dual shot key caps so the wording was a little over inflammatory but the point stays the same yes yeah and their defense is that if your name is Logitech you make a lot of different keyboards for the entire world in many different layouts and doing shot key caps might not be feasible across you know some of these more niche layouts and or regions and you'll generate complaints if some of them are dual shot and some of them are not totally got it still don't care a $150 keyboard should have dual shot key caps and that's like that sucks and that's a really annoying manufacturing thing and all that kind of stuff and I hear that but I would rather spend my hundred fifty dollars on a keyboard where I'm getting dual shot key it's a hundred and fifty US dollars that's like a two hundred Canadian dollar keyboards are really expensive people and it's wireless or whatever and that's great but I actually don't care I've keyboard I would be I would be pretty not stoked about you care about wireless keyboards um I like our I like RGB backlighting on my keyboards believe it or not so so no then so no because battery for now yeah yeah yeah apparently if they had made it RGB backlit the battery life would be like a day instead of six months yeah that's right see I'm like I I just having less cables on your desk is nice but one of the easiest things to kill manage on your desk is your keyboard yeah especially in terms of permanent cable listen no actually because it goes right into your monitor stand so a lot of time you have to like cross actually I'm gonna disagree with you there I think the keyboard is one of the harder things someone understands have cable management slots some of them don't all very few yes like monitor makers have got to be some of the most oblivious out there when it comes to like building functionality into their product yeah so yeah but like I guess from my desk it's pretty easy because I have my mixer right there so I just pinched those cable runs in between the mixer and the monitors and themselves but like a lot of money you have like you know legs that come out like this right that can be annoying I have to let it go around the ones I'm thinking of their feet are up and they taper down like this you can put the cable right in there okay alright so that works there's there it's it's not that difficult to manage and I would rather like I understand that the battery life is gonna be huge I would rather just never worry about it personally so doc swag posted on the forum the pixel two and the pixel two XL da and this is a great little spec sheet Wow fantastic so basically better camera than before yeah spec wise it's a modern phone yep so it's exactly what you would expect pretty much four gigs ram 64 / 128 gig storage it's got pretty much the same battery life as the previous pics are pretty much the same battery capacity as the previous pixels give or take DCI p3 screens that's pretty cool same resolutions as before except the XL it has a different aspect ratio the patil Emily okay no headphone jack is this a deal-killer for you no really I don't listen to how interesting music on my like it's it's not a positive I disagree with it I don't like it it wouldn't deal kill the phone for me if that makes sense okay I don't listen to music on my headphones for my phone that often okay because I know you're a pixel fan yeah and it's water-resistant now which I know was a huge deal and I'm missing wondering about this I'm hoping they fixed this it's cloth oh yeah the the earpiece the the earpiece grille on the pixel and pixel XL not the pixel to in pixel XL to is cloth and people go in there and try to clean it and mine's like not looking that great because it like absorbs gunk over the year dish that I've used it and you can't clean it because if you try to scrape it you'll rip the cloth there's pictures of people that have done it it's so stupid there's a lot of like really weird stupid things that were overlooked that will hopefully have been fixed one of them is a water resistance you've checked out the colors yeah like kind of blue just black or clearly white the names are weird I I don't know I I kind of like the Panda look yeah okay I think it looks alright I think out of all of the phones the pixels are kind of boring if that makes sense like they're not sleek and sexy they called the design iconic would you agree with that no oh I don't think it's a bad thing necessarily I just think it's it's it doesn't stand out it's not iconic it's the like opposite of iconic and there's glass on the back so everyone's probably just gonna want to skin it anyways so I don't know you know it's funny a lot of people a lot of people in the in the twitch chat not upset about know three and a half mil jack because my okay my thing is yeah they have all the adapters the main times that I use headphones on my phone is when I'm travel and it's usually my active noise-cancelling headphones that have a carrying case that have their cable in the carrying case sure I can just have the adapter in yep like it's the eye I use headphones with my phone so little that it's not a big deal okay all the people who are upset are flipping the math out right now oh yeah because they are upset okay okay okay I got it I got a mic in my car I use bluetooth you can buy Bluetooth dongles where you plug your like headphones or whatever into it and then it interfaces with your phone so you can turn your wired headphones into Bluetooth headset that's super cheap they're ridiculous actually five dollars they work on it really well they hold charge for a really long time it's it's not that bad I don't like it I don't think it's worth it I think it's a bad design move I think it's not worth making the phone thinner at all because the phone doesn't need to be thinner I think it's very stupid it's not a deal breaker for me personally all right let's draw pull it baby we've got people who want a straw pull ok just everybody stop everybody stop talking on the twitch chat so I can and I can totally understand why people would be upset straw whole strap let's drop pull it so I'm like I'm okay I used to carry my headphones loose in my pocket until I lost so many ear tips and broke a fair number of pairs of headphones and now I use a carrying case that has a little pocket in it but I keep my stupid lightning adapter which is the same carrying case I carry and now I'll my head earbuds now I'll put now I'll put a type-c adapter in there too I guess yeah along with an extra ear tip and mine on microphone backup cable like I'm clearly working around this but it it is a bit of a pain in the butt for me because I'll go and I'll like pull them out and I'll be like alright I'm using that phone that's a pretty nice use case I know I know and I think you also use headphones with your phone more than every single day yeah every single day multiple times a day I use them in each use case on top of new shoes yes and it's still not game breaking for you right I mean your favorite phones your iPhone isn't it yeah I like the iPhone 8 best right now but um like it sucks I don't like it I would really prefer there was a jack there I do not care about the thickness that you lose by losing a jack well let's talk about niche people for a minute here I also still have an iPhone 6 that I specifically have so I can jack in and like like okay you know that I listen to show nicely do so I specifically still own an iPhone 6 so that I don't have to have an adapter / I can charge it and didn't you also carry another phone for that earlier or was it an iPod or something yeah cuz they're off cycle cuz this one literally runs all night and the other one runs all day so I charge this one in the morning scary and all in anyways so I usually would be carrying an old phone anyway that's true this is true not that it meets your point at all I'm just saying you would have the phone anyways I would I would so 66% of people that they were said that they were mad yep and that's not surprising and I'm rising though is that 34 percent said they weren't mad weren't mad you also isn't surprising if 66% said they were mad you didn't ask if it was a deal breaker because I would have said mad but it's not a deal breaker but it's a not a deal breaker I would prefer to lose the headphone jack but gain water resistance and no longer have a stupid cloth thing there and I have front-facing speakers which was super cool all right and the squeeze thing I don't really care and like a few other things that are nice about the phone that I would trade the headphone jack for I think it's stupid I would love to have all of those things and a headphone jack because that makes way more freaking sense so I am mad but it's yeah it would not deal break the phone for me so this is kind of crazy last the last net linked don't do so for now it would appear as though the channel that Luke and I both started our YouTube careers on you know is in limbo in limbo it would be the most the most kind word to probably use area so they haven't uploaded anything since three days ago when a video entitled X 399 nvme raid support DJI local data mode no more net linked for now went up so most of the NCIX tech tips team is gone so that's was me at one point and was Luke at one point and there's not those people anymore yeah but was also wheels then Julia Anthony Reilly Jack who else am I thinking of here how did Jack am I am I missing anyone was oh I mean Barrett Riley's Riley's brother was Esther legs part of the team Esther was part of the team at some point so of all of those people the people who are gone all of them yeah that makes sense in in the last episode he did say that he's gonna be trying to make videos still sometimes he was saying hopefully one a week but was like do not hold me to that so we'll see how that comes out so we'll go ahead and like I can maybe address some of the some of the comments here you know rip me if LTT were to ever go under don't worry we're not going anywhere we're good man yeah we're like super awesome and good yeah so a lot of people seem to be wondering about how this could happen to a channel with lots of subscribers and actually like okay viewership yeah like you're never gonna do well on like mesh Wi-Fi or whatever but you know look the core stuff net linked is doing sixty a hundred thousand views and episode that's not bad that's that should be sustainable for a team of a couple people yeah so people are asking like what happened so it seems to have a lot more to do with decision business decisions being made by the parent company so I'm not gonna comment on sort of oh I don't want to comment on anything that I'm being told in confidence like I still know people there so I know stuff that that like people don't I'll say really vague stuff then because I haven't talked to these people so you can just look at NC X and how they're doing right now they're closing stores people have been departed from the YouTube channel you can see different I mean someone works here now that didn't before that used to work there yeah the writings sort of on the wall and it seems to be going rather quickly that's all outside perspective haven't had conversations with anyone in the company stuff so there you go it's an end of an era and I've got to say it's pretty it's pretty sad for me actually cuz this was like kind of my baby well like the store that you worked out of and I used to buy all of my sorry oh yeah yeah so it's yeah it's kind of tough because this is something that like I started and put my heart and soul into and became like a part of my personal identity like this was what turned me into a youtuber yeah and to see it kind of go down like this was really its kind of thing and sad actually because it was weird at first to no longer be a part of that team like the team making the ncx tech tips videos when you and I did it for so long yeah then it's gonna be even weirder having that not exist now people in twitch chat are saying that we should buy NCIX yes that would be that would be that would be a Wow um how how how does this idea fail let me count tell so hard yeah yeah buying companies that will control really losing money is like good business you know people are asking like you know guilty T's about going anywhere right and it is because we don't make decisions like that is doing great just great actually no you know what though I would love to buy the channel someone in Chad says hi ed oh I'd buy it oh that weird I I would buy some of the people that come with it I'm not gonna name any names but I wouldn't buy all of them besides no people come with it at this would you rename it and just make it a tech news channel I think we could just call it like we could just call it like an ex tech tips or something like that we could just like change it a little bit yeah cuz really weird getting the NZXT like and we could just make it straight tech news yeah just get rid of every format that wasn't that linked um cuz I actually I liked the net linked format I would like I would see a neckline thumbnail surprised if I could know what it is good they changed it a lot from what like if you look at the early ones they were trash hmm like they changed it a lot they made it more you to be they made it more upbeat they made it more fun and you know I would see it from Nayla be like oh yeah what's going on with that and I'd click it and like you know four minutes and pass it be like oh I just watch the whole video which doesn't happen a lot for me I don't watch a lot of YouTube videos like I actually like that linked so soon ed yeah so I would I wouldn't mind bringing back net linked but I'll tell you now that my relationship with NCIX is not at the best it's been in the last 10 years and I don't even think for a fair offer they'd be interested in selling to me so I could be wrong I mean I could always reach out and he liked you you guys still want that channel I mean with how YouTube treats subscribers and stuff right now it might not be too bad to just start another one um I think one point one nil has a value because you can build up a big subscriber base back to like getting notifications faster than you can like build a subscriber base from nothing yeah we wouldn't be building subscriber base or nothing I would also just be like I would be like taking back my baby no I know yeah that would be part I know yeah I think this probably most of it that's something part of it yeah but like obviously we understand it if I had to and this I can comment on because I haven't really talked to anybody about it but if I had to guess rather than you know do something sensible with it they're just gonna run it into the ground if I had to guess I would say they're just gonna pull what tigerdirect and Newegg did before them they're gonna having no concept of what made it good they're gonna bring in some random outsiders to try to make videos they're gonna have no idea why people watch videos they're gonna try to just sell stuff and it's gonna be a complete disaster and it's gonna just crater have to like archive some of these old videos yeah good like this do you remember doing this oh the ultimate water cooling guide part 3 where we had to like build the whole thing then tear the whole thing apart and then like build it again I was like was that an all-night shoot I think that was like two all night shoes I don't remember cuz there was part one two and three how many views does it have to at least get a lot of views it's really good for that time seven hundred and seventy eight thousand not bad yeah alright I think we've got time for maybe one more topic okay it's the Intel show apparently cuz I'm super-super not stoked on this posted by Oh doesn't say who on the forum but like war stn this is just Intel will no longer be providing perk or turbo frequencies making motherboard tuning impossible so you won't be able to alter your overclocks perk or so extreme tax has when we queried Intel as to why they've decided to no longer officially disclosed perk or turbo frequencies they said we're no longer disclosing this level of detail as it is proprietary to Intel Intel only specifies processor frequencies for base and single core turbo in our processor marketing and technical collateral such as Ark and not the multi-core turbo frequencies we're aligning communications to be consistent all turbo frequencies are opportunistic given their dependency on system configuration and workload bs pretty annoying basically what you're doing is you're making us go measuring yeah why why are you wasting our time this is like this is like Apple not disclosing the capacity of their batteries to make someone take it apart it's like you're not concealing anything you're just you know you're just inconveniencing everybody does not even know reason literally not even reverse engineering it's just trying something like it's not difficult to figure I just can't even it's just extremely annoying for all of the consumers so yeah I guess that's all I really had to say about that I'm sort of surprised okay somebody's posting salts in the chat I was surprised people weren't doing salt tips salt tips but did you see that clip no I ate salt and it was a mistake I didn't think it was gonna be that bad because I was talking about like people being salty about something well there was like one of those big ones and I was like oh it wasn't like fully open or anything but like for a bit I was actually okay and I was gonna just keep going with the video and then it like hit me all at once is pretty bad cuz there's salts that you can eat like if you get like salt mixes and stuff you can have like what is the really small one a tablespoon yeah teaspoon teaspoon yeah um I'm not very uh up with the whole etiquette thing aims gone okay I'd be a lot more sad if this was a msn yeah I was sad when this was in the Sun there you go I like had a dream about msn like in the last three days I don't know ever exactly when but man if it came back suddenly I would jump on that train so fast and then they would Skype if I the crap out of it and I would bail out so fast um Microsoft edge is coming to iOS and Android cool I guess I can use that for like accounts that I don't want to have signed in on the other ones I don't know I just use other browsers for that so it's fine and there's gonna be another BlackBerry there's a huge thing on this that we haven't talked about at all yet all right unlike anybody oh wow we're doing it at the very end of the show when no one's watching holy crap we suck we're really it's it's funny cuz we're like in the advertising business and then when we need to advertise our own things we just suck at it I know we're not the greatest marketers also it is like we often just don't market it anyway there's a blackberry phone that's coming oh cool um holy crap how have we not talked about this floatplane um kind of a big deal scrapyard Wars is up people don't even believe me that it's there really yeah okay now hold on I got this I I will show the people like we don't have a trailer we had a trailer for the the like cleanup vlogs we didn't get a trailer for scrapyard Wars oh yeah it's a two-week window a two-week window ah long story oh yeah we could still have a trailer yeah but it would be too early yeah no that no that makes no we'd have a trailer for a floatplane yeah but we're gonna have it it trust me it makes sense sure we don't want to tease something two weeks in advance what we want to do it now because no no but I know I guess yeah we we don't want to create again more salt than you have to I get it but it's there what do we got tech quickie bias lighting as fast as possible that's a good thumbnail it's pretty sad is there Cyprian behind the scenes demolition vlog yeah done don't oh yeah we demolished our sets so that was the thing this was a simultaneous release the car I 780 700 K so you guys have probably seen that the ultimate mega workstation got oh I think that was a simultaneous release as well because of Coolermaster case sponsorship trackball Mouse review yeah that's all these two dudes red ball it's kind of neat yeah I wonder how well it's gonna sell I have no idea probably not particularly amazingly yeah but like I'm sure they're prepared for that like I'm sure it all I'll be fine scrap yard war heck yeah scrap yard war six part one sponsored by D brand holy crap J's two cents holy crap Demitri from hardware connects holy crap hold on a second hold on a second I got like a quick spoiler I got a quick spoiler holy crap you can hardly recognize Linus in this outfit how will anyone ever recognize him on the street he's going incognito I love the glasses wait for it it's coming and he's gone incognito Linus gone so yeah it's 40 42 minutes of scrapyard wars greatness and the episodes are rolling out weekly on I think it's either Saturdays or Sundays so yeah get signed up for flow plane if you guys want to be watching scrapyard wars right meow handy tack under 100 stuff for your stuff oh cool another one of those yep we are finally bringing back handy tax stuff for your stuff this is a pretty cool product that is actually the size of this entire computer that contains a GTX 1080 oh yeah that's really small to 1084 scale yeah yeah is that it is that the Carter this is the 1080 right here Wow yeah it's pretty cool deleting $1,000 CPU is it worth the risk what would you put the risk to hot 40 a thousand dollars no I mean like percentage-wise ah hard to say yeah and last but not least the full RGB water cooling system even the fittings are RGB this is actually one of the better performing videos like of all time oh wow d letting did really well too yeah this one too what does scroll lock do killed it on tech wiki alright killed it on a floatplane so guys I Joe go join go join the plane Joe join the club it's not gonna be called a club anymore no we got it we gotta get out of habit we don't just get on the plane get on the plane just get your pilot's license get on the plane man so head over there it is 3 bucks a month we cannot promise that that pricing will remain after the launch and it goes on to the other side we promise that it won't yeah it won't yeah so you should probably be on floatplane before the site launches and we do not intend to announce when the site will launch because we're big douches yeah we totally could yep so get on there alright guys thanks for tuning into the wind chill you'll see you again next week same bat-time it seemed that channel bye okay do you mind yep doing their garbage also I haven't even ended this stream yet but I got to go finish eating that thing with you okay I'm also gonna try to find a time for us are you still down yeah I'm just totally still down okay because I DEP we definitely haven't returned yet oh yeah I'm sure sure it'll be fine yeah probably like a 7:30 freshbooks that works for me yep synergy bye everyone so long bye everyone