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Is Google REALLY Building an Ad Blocker?? - WAN Show April 21, 2017

2017-04-21
we live hand alright no way welcome to the window where I used to life I don't use any and two computers I use one yeah I don't think they're police on it I'm sorry I'm sorry I hit the mic I hit the keyboard over here I'm not good at using the computers I'm just I'm trying to use the computers that is basically the whole channel hahaha little bit about yeah it's a combination of things yeah we have a great show for you guys today the best show the pretty much the best show um twitch opens up its money-making tools to non partnered channels I don't know about twitch but uh not all of them I don't know if I'd open up my money making tools to non partners if you know what I mean Wow Wow only in approved circumstances which is what they're doing that's right you still have to apply with a condom yeah there's a rumor that Google is planning to add a native ad blocker to Chrome super sick also you can flash possibly your Radeon rx 470 towards a 570 because this seems to happen every time the towards is weird co-op Fox I changed it I included it cuz I was like no and you can't flash something toward I mean I could've elevating rewards and it ends up being a 565 because it was on the way it was almost bad in kleitman 569 yeah yeah yeah cuz it coming god I Jack words with the last name in there 569 yeah I'm totally down that's what it should be called anyways long as you're the other way hahahaha oh that's for phone numbers to confirm dota 2 player identity wow that ranked match that's a big step forward for the removal of anonymity from online gaming and by step forward to be clear I'm not I'm not going to say I'm for or against the move I mean as a step forward towards that particular end goal we can discuss it more later first you have to sit through the intro with sound new revelation Oh savage turkey artis you bastard yeah [Laughter] how you get some accounting yeah I thought okay I saw the habanero one and I was like last time it just lasted forever anyways so I can just eat that one and no one's really going to care because it just burns everyone else out now it's open yeah you know everybody else stuck with the severy single other person every single other person three fair does this is the reason this is the reason that we're pushing here muhahahahahaha is a development project okay if you were wondering why I ate dad's jerky to kick me over the house that's right and you deserved it and you know it yeah time to pay rent alright so let's go ahead and why don't we jump right into our first topic here let's let's have some let's have some fun here let's get right into twitch opening up its money-making tools to non partner channels so the original article here is from TechCrunch and the funny thing about this is it is right on the heels of YouTube actually closing down access to their ad generating money generating tools from folks who aren't abiding by end like an advertiser friendly sort of unspoken content guideline yeah now I'm not saying that this is an apples to apples comparison by any stretch of the imagination but if twitch was looking for a good time to kind of you know open up the floodgates and be my only two creators that want to do it as a job trying to be more creator friendly this is a this is as good a time as any there's some interesting things it's not full partnership so if you're looking at partners right now and being like oh yes I'll be able to become that or my friend will be able to come that or whatever it's not quite the same you won't get everything yeah why don't you start with a rundown of that it's that partners get your partner partners yes our partners have you have a subscription button which is like the bread and butter of being a partner and these guys will not get that a subscription button is five dollars a month and you get a chat badge so I'm showing that your subscriber if you subscribe for a really long time that chat badge can get upgraded you get special emojis in the chat all that kind of fun stuff I think there's been some like potential leak kind of stuff where people are talking about how there might be different tiers of subscriptions in the future but who knows then there's cheering with bits which both of these tiers will be able to get cheering with bits is like there's always been donating to streamers this is a way to donate to streamers through the twitch platform instead of through something that the streamer sets up it shows up in the chat with a little animated thing depending on how many bits you actually donated and streamers can tie it in to actually have it pop up on the stream and play a sound notification wherever you will get that it's a virtual tipping they call it and I believe yeah when you when you cheer you get a chat badge that slowly upgrades over time depending on how much you've cheered I'm gonna be honest with you I'm streaming on Twitch right now I do not get that the to your thing yeah I don't get it I don't get why it incentivizes people to to like donate more to like shiny things I know I don't get it and like okay another one is if you cheer and comment in the same line you get the partner can have a thing where that gets pinned to the top of the chat the most recent cheer can get pinned to the top of the chat so if you want your comment to be seen by everyone for sure in a chat with comments flying by you add like a little bit of money to it and get spin so everyone sees I don't personally care about commenting on twitch so it's not for me I only comment patrol you on your stream occasionally everything I'm not even listening so I can't even respond okay the only - the only time I have enough time just sit and watch your step no offence hahaha maybe the only time that there couldn't that there isn't some things anything that's why I got me is what I'm like rocking the baby to sleep yes yeah and I'm just like yep it is not important in what I'm doing right now it happens quickly so you're muted you're muted af yeah and I'm just like well I'm in the chat scrolling and then everyone freaks out and they're trying to like communicate for both of us so the chats are trying to talk for me to you and then sort of like it that gets really weird yeah well there's the delay yeah so the guys days can be really long yeah or not or not it exists in almost at all yeah so it's really confusing it's very weird um so so so can people pin it so can people cheer for us like here so I believe our we partner we are partnered for sure that we might not have that enabled okay and that would be good oh because language cheering I'm an idiot and I don't know how the dashboard works basically but well not the dashboard well there was that one feature that you're like yeah you're going to need to turn that on I'm like and you're like I'll do it for you well we also know how to hosting thing enabled is that we yeah yeah yeah no there's been - I don't the other one life I don't ever exactly where it is but it's not dashboard hard on your sound will be there are settings subscriber only chat exclude custom to enable cheering with bits any blue is faithful so it's the same we have everything we have royalty tax and service tax disabled an interview what the heck is that we have subscriber only chat disabled we have excluding subscribers from slow mode disabled we have cheering with Fitz disabled the custom cheer mode disabled bits threshold settings disable chat badge settings disabled restrict access to archives disabled ad free for subscribers is enabled heck yeah and our affiliate options are disabled as well as our earning revenue from game sales you might want to turn the bits one on we are clearly not doing this right we must be the worst partnered twitch streamers on the entire platform free BET I think you're also supposed to stay a minimum of three times a week that clearly never had like we're even on time let alone three times a week so yeah maybe maybe not so like what people should aspire to be okay so this this just in we are not what people should aspire to be more adolescent extreme West don't stream for as long don't stream Dane head hold up it all the money-making stuff yeah allow subscribers but like don't really worry about giving them anything cool apparently yeah and pre-record last week swag show that's right I almost got the lens that was actually um oh yeah you'll have you'll have cheering with bits if you get into the affiliate program I believe there's also ads right you can have advertisements on the channel those are all give you some money but that is very bro and then if you are planning to livestream this week's LAN show make sure you change your clock setting oh ah see that see that changing the clock settings for this clearly pre-recorded show haha thanks livestream yeah I don't get any weird issues with like the computer not being able to do things on the internet because the timecode is so wrong and stuff because you're just local recording that's right you just set it back to normal and upload it later no problem easy alright so anyway in a nutshell this new tier will be called affiliate yeah not um partners okay it's a little cooler for partners because partners get stuff like a verified chat badge we haven't set them apart when they go in other people's chats and and it will still be on an invitation basis so based on a number of criteria including timespan stream oh sorry I'm spent streaming viewership numbers and follower account I think those last two were pretty good right yeah we're doing pretty okay okay yeah alright it's an easier way to start kind of getting your foot in the door because right now the threshold for becoming a partner is very hard to hit when the discoverability of which is platform being not a partner is really really bad yeah right that's fair like unless you're like the first person streaming some hot new game and even then you've got like an hour yeah you really don't have that long yeah and you need to be like exceptionally good at it often yeah to really draw people in like there's a few success stories where someone gets like a weird early access code so they get like a day of head of everyone else so they're further in the game than everyone so then they get a bunch of your I hate or like a bunch of servers goes down but the one they're connected to is able to stay up so they get a bunch of it like there's there's weird ways if you wait and make it accidentally promoting small fun streamers since 2000 whatever it hasn't been that long I've talked to you about this and it's it's hard because with with something like YouTube you get off board it every about 5 10 minutes because the video will end and it's going to suggest a whole bunch of other videos right so you'll get off work you might continue purposefully going for their videos but right it's making a conscious decision over and over and over again every 5 to 10 minutes with twitch you click on one person and then it tries to keep you there so it's it's harder for them to try to spread their users out and then if you want to go find one of these little smaller streamers you're going to be going to some game and then you'll be like scrolling through pages and pages of all things that look the same yeah just like thumbnails yeah of a game yeah cuz like that's pretty much it that's going on yeah cuz you can't put boobs in it anymore so what do you have to do like I can't I can't even like am I even allowed to wear a low-cut I think that yes this is okay you know I've shown it known it known it so I could even I could even like that's what's probably fine that's probably fine too I think mid-drift is also not allowed it's kind of funny is it yours probably cool depending on the compression this kind of leg hair could even look kind of like a shadowed between boob kind of cleavage area what do you know why why did you show it giant pecs yeah giant backdoor knows that's what's going on over here giant giant weird ah ha ha we put the loot in nude yeah all right another news Google this is rumored the original post on our forum was by dead-eyed psycho thank you for posting that Google is rumored to be adding a native ad blocker to Chrome can you even imagine honestly after you read through this it completely makes sense what they're targeting is stuff like pop-up ads that don't go away for a timer and that autoplay videos Sheriff adds that autoplay sound there they're only targeting ad blocking for things that they view as like kind of pain in treatment yeah intrusive a damaging the user experience this is coming back to is it ad block plus I can never keep track this is coming back there's so many or whatever but the concept though of a responsible yes web ad yeah and white listing ads that are non intrusive that's the idea then so their thing is they're they're blocking ads that are beneath a threshold of user or consumer acceptability mm-hmm you go to website it's like oh my goodness this is ridiculous hopefully they'll be blocking it so tell me this what would this mean for the effectiveness then of online advertising because there's a reason that obnoxious ads exist if they didn't work they wouldn't exist nobody would put them on their website so and and I mean you've got some experience with this yeah the obnoxious ads how much more do they pay a lot more like to the point where I actually don't know like I don't remember the exact numbers because this was a couple years ago where we had this like fight you did well no not you and me oh I see cuz I was gonna say I don't I don't think I was ever pushing you for like oh I'm not okay to give a little bit of context we're talking about the four yeah particularly the tech kids calm forum that's the only place where we there's a recent a little bit of a kerfuffle where member of the team Colton added a bunch of ads and like didn't put them in the right spots and didn't enable the right rules so like people that had paid to be on the forum while not seeing ads we're seeing ads and they were like everywhere and in really obnoxious places and stuff but I took care of that it's fine now but there was a little bit of a kerfuffle way back in the day when we were kind of deciding how we want everything to work and a partner that we had that was like getting the ads for us to put on the website was a little distraught because they wanted to put ads not just above the fold because we have one ad that's above the fold on the top right I don't think it's too intrusive but they want to put it like center middle top here why don't I log in so you guys can see okay so here you go you know I'm actually here I'm just going to move us so um this spot right here is what we call above the fold which is above the first page break on a website you can actually see we don't even have anything on our section well we don't have a lot of advertising on our site is impatient we have water down there okay there's no food or water but there's but like why would anyone be here down at the test post yeah not oh wait probably not everyone can see okay well anyway um okay well right now we're logged into an account that I think has access to stuff that not everybody does but basically the advertising partner wanted us to put one of those ones here or above that I like I like they're here yeah you know they've wanted it specifically to go in line with the logo up in the top part and and they wanted it auto-playing video not necessarily sound because they agreed that was pretty intrusive but like auto-playing video pop up stuff like because those are the things that make money if you make it like the top middle of the page at the a bit more money and like I think Colton put one right in this air opes hold on at that think Colton put one right in this area yeah so I asked that pretty quick there's one where if you go into a forum section yeah it's if they're not logged in who's the long post I am logged in though if you're yeah I know but if you're not logged in there's one that goes in between these two posts but if you are logged in it goes away and right now it doesn't have it but I'll put it there again and back in the day it had this where it shows on each side of that ad because just log in to get rid of this ad right and the idea was we just wanted more members yeah and if you're if you're just checking out like a troubleshooting post and you're not going to come back like sure you can never have enough members that could get ridiculous pretty great that's it yeah painful deliver ha ha ha ha well the member itself not that painful as long it upstairs each of them doesn't have a ballsack probably okay yeah has branched into this look though sorry Brandon okay so in a nutshell there's there some reasoning behind all this so Google may choose to block all advertising that appears on sites with offending ads instead of the individual offending ads themselves so Google is like taking a stand against crappy advertising because these kinds of ads are what are pushing people to install ad blocking software and 26 percent of US users now employ ad blocking tools on their desktops anyway yeah and this is I mean this is estimated but if you're Google and your whole business is contextual advertising with the idea behind it being that you are providing an ad that has relevance to the user I can see why you might be leveraging your position as the number one browser to to try to reverse that tide and try and try and stop bleeding out the users that you can show advertising to and there's that that common quote that I don't know how many people actually go with this but there's a common quote that like if the ads weren't so intrusive I wouldn't run adblock yeah I personally think that's kind of BS I most a lot of the time I'm sure they're that I'm sure it's true for some people I know one person in particular that has it set to OFF for all sites but then if it was like that he can like barely view because of it help specifically turn it on right okay and I'm like okay that seems a little bit more of to me right but like whatever I understand the concern there's it is very annoying when you go to some sites and it's just everywhere and unusable one that I particularly really hate is when you're on a news style website and they have those news style ads that are just all bullcrap the a sponsored story I never I never actually click on them but I often think that it's real at first so I'll go read them and then I'm like oh crap it's one of those stupid things again no I just that so it just it's it's distracting and it's never going to make me click on it because it's so obviously BS but that's the thing is like they wouldn't exist if comes from well there you go clicking on them here we go so this is what we're talking about it's like he doesn't speak with his daughter anymore after the incident and like it's obviously can you yeah I don't know who the chick is but she's probably some well-known person too it's like she had ideas about I think that this one usually has an O in and I think this is yeah how can you not even copy paste and like it's it's there's often lots of skin like it's there there's like weird medical stuff is always in there yet you can see at least at least too early the secret will destroy the diabetes industry try it tonight what watch this simple trick up like I just I hate where yeah absolutely hate this all right so yeah I would be very done with that go ahead google run for it I'll make sure the forums all good I do wonder if they're going to make the make it through the like you know the regulatory bodies that exist I don't know who exactly would be would be sort of monitoring that I don't think it's a problem because your browser interprets the its anti-competitive if Google is blocking other ad providers ads with their browser that they control and their an ad provider and they're not blocking their own ads I mean they could say no we're blocking our own ads equally ours aren't obnoxious so they don't fall within this criteria that was determined by this third-party Coalition for better it's not our fault but that's got to hold up in Crimea I'm sure Google has like done is going to do their duty I mean it's not like this is happening yet it's not like this is even confirmed very much a rumor I'm sure they'll do their due diligence before they just roll this out but I have some serious doubts about whether or not this would make it through the scrutiny of a legal review and given the size of the advertising industry the kinds of damages that Google could potentially have to pay for a move like this could actually be enough to dissuade them like they yes they have enough money to buy the earth and all the heavens but it could be significant enough to be an issue yeah to do it this was originally posted by filo one so for those of you who were wondering if perhaps AMD did do the retooling and refining of the manufacturing on their RX 470 and 480 graphics cards that they said they did in order to turn them into 570 and 580 graphics cards then I don't remember how I started that sentence so I'm not sure how to end it but for those of you that actually believe yes um it may be that they didn't do quite as much as they said they did and the high power consumption of the 570 and the 580 may simply have to do with AMD binning for high leakage high power chips and cranking up the voltage so it is it looks like the original article here is from guru 3d there could it even maybe been some retooling to help them get larger bins of cards that they think would fit under this yep yep and that's that's very very possible and we may probable as well but what it looks like is that most of the board partners are using the very same PCB design according to Hilbert they're that they used for the 400 series and since the device ID doesn't appear to be changed just the subsystem ID then there's the possibility that you can flash the graphics card using a TI tool or excuse me a TI flash so looks like it can be achieved regardless of CPU and yeah there you go I mean it's not like this is the first time that yay thank you oh it's not like this is the first time that AMD has run into this sort of thing which really does kind of raise the question did they did they not see this coming it's not it wasn't even that long to go maybe they don't care I think my favorite one was 292 to 90s because it was like literally sold as a different product within the same time frame yeah they've had other situation they taught a lot fracturing radians goes all the way back to like 9500 non-pro where they reused the PCB design and memory layout of the Radeon 9700 there you go and if you had I believe it was the I shaped memory config versus the lower cost with lower clocked l-shaped memory config then you could flash it to 9700 that right you would probably know that wouldn't you memory yes so so so Elvis okay L was good or bad sorry so apparently L was good i shaped was bad anyway which kind of leads me to believe then that they must just not care I mean remember the 50 not 50/50 870 it might even be good for them it just had a bio switch on it yeah and they're just like yeah there's like a normal BIOS in like I'd needed whatever bio do whatever you're going to do with that maybe they just don't give a crap it might legitimately be good for them because this isn't it's very unlikely to come across as bad news to people that are very informed because they're just me like oh sweet I can buy the older one and they just do this crazy manual thing and most people that aren't informed aren't really going to care and they'll buy whatever one into their budget properly so the hardcores will be like excited and talking about their brand maybe this is hi AMD ends up was kind of that rebellion about that team that team red kind of fanaticism where it's like they just kind of leave stuff there for those super hard course there five years built on hope built on Easter eggs Easter eggs and hope um where it's just like realistically no one else is probably even going to care about the small performance difference between a 400 series and a 500 series and like the actual risk I think a lot of companies worry about this where they're like yeah I mean realistically we don't care if people were to flash the card but what we're worried about is people screwing it up and breaking the card yeah but I think the the percentage of users who are actually going to download a tool like ati flash is so small that all you really stand to gain is hardcore users who are like super excited about it doing it and talking about what a great company you are and the people who don't care just not doing it and just having to listen to their friend yes yes okay them yes the 480 is cheaper and better you know what I just learned my game just 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have a 5 No we have the Carolina Reaper that's what I ate last time I like died and we also have the ghost pepper did you try ghost pepper yet oh we caught it okay I want to try the Mojo habanero okay let's see how you do with that I'm calm are you good with spicy stuff to you I just really like the maple one so I'm eating that first okay have you tried the maple buffalo bacon I have not just really good it's not that hot hmm you might not get the full effect if you've already eaten a really spicy one recently I can clear it up yeah you got a silent really this is like the same consistency as milk it works you disgust me in every way ha ha what's wrong with you everything we're gonna wash down ha ha ha turkey bacon lips some swollen everything is wrong with that paper okay so the mojo have now this is an order the 3 3 plate oh no it's gonna work for you okay okay so yeah that's the two is like oh no no the Reaper is 5 that does go all the way behind it adds another Bowl adds another 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personally well I'll just keep this then yeah I love being the host because like olt who's been keeping everyone else away from this stuff with a stick for the last week and you've been seaming it basically for us to sit on stream and eat it that good good pretty spicy though cool oh I don't think I'm completely dying like with the Reaper I never tried the crack suffering sea salt one so I'm going to just eat Whoopie ones for the rest of the show but they add it guys savage jerky well I call it a little wrong there uh-huh yeah inhaled a little wrong trust me you don't want hot jerky down your windpipe that's bad anyway savage jerky dot-com use offer code ltte to save 10% lots of different flavors and it's a it's good stuff Ninh so this one the ghost pepper one is like a good top of my tolerance level spice I think yak like I had one I'm good for a while I'm okay I'm processing it everything's fine until the reapers are elves too much I'm actually usually pretty good with that yeah yeah I've never had that problem that's far more detail about your bodily functions than I ever cared to know but I guess I kind of invited don't I we shared it with everyone yeah on the stream that's uh that's the way we do it live and archived all right so Val this is a huge move originally posted on ARS technica let's go ahead and get that are you sure this has already happened with csgo just to add to that valve asks for phone numbers to confirm dota 2 player identities and the idea is that this move would cut down on expert players intentionally smurfing noobs and if you're not familiar with the term smurfing then get off twitch because you suck and I'm kidding because I know a lot of people are here for our tech show and not necessarily regular twitch viewers so smurfing refers to creating a separate dummy dummy profile that is a very low level so you can just like kind of fit with your jackass friends and be look look God doesn't know how to play this game as well as me because I've logged like 800 hours so like I'm not on a new account now I want to do a cow and I'm just going to like kick as Oz's is so great so I think the ghost over one sorry to go back hits you a little bit later yeah well my salivary glands are like firing trying to like cool everything down nice it's uh yeah I don't know these are maybe like for me at least like one strip every like wide while thankfully they are resealable packages anyway yeah so the idea is you have to have an attached phone number this should cut down on Smurfs like you were just talking about but also cheaters because if your phone number is used and then you are banned I believe you cannot reuse that phone number for three months three months oh so phone numbers can't be passed between accounts without a three month waiting period yeah so it should reduce cheaters as well so if you can queue up with only people that have verified numbers mm-hmm that means you'll have less cheaters and less Smurfs which makes a way better competitive experience this I'm like fairly certain this is already encounter so I guess I should have just checked chat valve statement here players using multiple accounts create a negative matchmaking experience at all skill brackets so our goal is to add just enough friction to this process that the number of players doing this will be noticeably reduced having more players using their primary accounts will have a positive effect on both ranked and unranked matchmaking yeah so it's already called CS co-prime you have a prime enabled account if you've attached your phone number and that has made a significant positive improvement in the csgo community so they're spreading it over to Rivet - you had an interesting mention I haven't actually heard anyone bring up the fact that it reduces anonymity in gaming it does until you said that but that is true and that's something that a lot of people are really feel very strongly should be preserved but that's a viewpoint that I've personally argued against in the past I mean as but okay and all of this comes you have to understand take it with a dumptruck worth of salt because this comes from my perspective as someone who has willingly forfeited basically all of my online privacy by being a web via video personality yeah so I look at I look at it and I go well for me though the ways in which I could behave like a complete ass hat online are pretty limited because if anyone figured out it was me I actually there are people out there who know who I am I have a reputation to uphold anonymity means you don't have a reputation to uphold it could be the nicest person one day and the crappiest person the other day and there's basically no consequences and there's arguments to be made the other way like anonymity lets you you know truly speak your mind in a way that you couldn't but there are a lot of people particularly in the gaming community that quite frankly I don't think should be allowed to speak their mind um I'm letting him go I disagree I'm just saying but I'm letting him go to get his point across so my so basically I think that anonymity is the same as not having any accountability and for myself I've personally made the choice to forfeit my anonymity and I would love to be able to reap the benefit of interacting with other people online who have willingly forfeited their anonymity so that's what I like about this move from valve they're not forcing everybody to do it yeah they're just saying if you willingly give up that anonymity and you are willing to tie your personal actual you to an actual avatar in a one-to-one relationship then you get the benefit of interacting only with other people who are also willing to do the same and I think that's a great move I'm cool with that concept at this level where the anonymity loss is not public but just to the okay it lessens out see that's that's where some of it loses me to because I want to give a phone number to just anybody um that that becomes an issue even with valve and these big companies like what they do with data is so sketchy we have a topic in here that we'll probably talk about later where Bo's has apparently been stealing people's data in terms of like what music and podcasts and stuff they've been listening to on their wireless headphones which is like what the hell guys and apparently they have very definitely been selling it which is just like so garbo but we'll talk about that later I'm real I so like I do not like giving forward my information but at the same time if it's something fairly minimal I don't really use my actual calling feature on my phone much anymore and if someone calls me and it's not a number that's already in my phone I pretty much don't pick up right and like phone services and stuff now auto detects certain numbers so like if my ISP calls me it will tell me their company name yeah so they show up if it's a super random number I just don't pick it up so I'm not that worried about that leaking I personally think this is a cool system when CS co-prime came out I jumped on that as soon as I could which right because I I thought that was cool I don't like losing my own enmity outwards to people that are playing the game sure I hate that concept I hated so much when YouTube was supposed to be like real names right that was stupid I hated that that was a dumb idea and I think the Internet agreed with me but losing a little bit just so that you can get rid of all to like just terrible people not all of them but a lot of the terrible people is pretty cool especially when like could you attach I wonder if you could attach like a Skype number that I don't know or something that isn't like your real phone yeah that's something I haven't really tried I mean I mean obviously there's the whole other issue of like basically like burner numbers being very very inexpensive yes but but you'd have to go out and do something that's good enough for me in my opinion yep and it like this is a convenience yeah if you reduce the convenient because like I would rather go out and get a burner number or go get a Skype number or something I don't know if that works don't even know if that's possible but go do something that takes a couple steps so that it would increase the barrier of like Oh in 20 seconds I could just be trolling a bunch of people and gabi a giant jerk well okay now maybe you have to go to the store and buy a pay-as-you-go phone or something yeah like that that takes more steps you have to absolutely like leave your house and go deliberately do something the amount of people that will actually do that it's pretty low and that I would be very happy comics aber asks why no s-8 review oh it's coming I filmed it today yeah basically we didn't get one early so there's that all right we did we pick fun of the note too much or like no actually well there I just I had so much to say about it that it was already going to be like an 11 minute video without pre-roll and integration no I mean like the reason why we didn't get it early oh no no we've just that are our Samsung contacts it's it's a it's a complicated thing we're probably getting too far into like the boring business of being a youtuber right now but basically we are physically located in Canada but the majority of our audience is in the US so so for a lot of big companies the u.s. division can't talk to us because we are on Canadian soil and the Canadian division only wants to talk about stupid Canadian things I feel like we really like when this phone is launching on Bell I don't care when it's launching on Bell I want to know when the hardware is available so I'll get these deep and press releases like you know three weeks from now that are like oh can you believe this phone's coming to Rogers and tell us I'm like a review units available right what am I supposed to say about it at this point thanks for nothing so we should just like incorporate in Delaware ah and get like a get like a 100 square foot one-bedroom apartment in like nowhere land what what is this ah oh I thought it was something but you're gonna like get the hammer and attack me no I mean this is exciting um what is that what does that mean paint me scared but excited or something like that I don't member it is but whatever um but yeah like I almost it's a pretty big issue being in Canada yeah companies even when I like tell them we're in Canada and they're like oh yeah we can have our like Canadian contact reach out to you I'm like please no please don't do that no like oh no it's fine I'm like it is not fine it is not fine at all nothing about this is fine yeah um speaking of things that are fine we've got some fine videos up on floatplane Club right now yeah so you guys have been hard at work on some pretty crazy stuff is there anything that's not totally behind the scenes that we can talk about I mean there's the call for coders there's the fact that we basically don't know what the platform is I was just going to say uh yeah I guess I can address some of the comments on this yeah that would be cool people have questions in twitch chat and I see them through the blur of twitch chat I will try to respond to them a lot of comments on mainly the YouTube side not this side we're just very odd our cameras gone by the way we're just very very odd like people people being like oh yeah building a different version of YouTube is a terrible idea and I'm yes it is yeah that would be a terrible idea that's not what we're doing did you know I would invest exactly zero dollars in that idea yeah that's that's horrible people that think I'm like asking for a lot I am definitely asking for a lot but they're like oh my god one person can't build this platform on their own like I know that's why I included this section about how they're going to have to collaborate with all of the other people that are working on the project No so so many mr. violence is about to turn into a is about to turn into a rant isn't it a little bit I'm holding back I'm looking for questions in the chat all right I'll talk about some of the some of the videos we have coming up so we've got the tiny laptop tested someone's asking if I did hair implants lately no we did a bunch of really cool testing on that that super tiny GPD pocket laptop including running games on it itself using game stream it's got a great really sharp 1080p IPS display really cool little device so we've got our video up for that we've got the first build guide in over a year the thousand dollar gaming build guide with pyrotechnics that is real fire you haven't seen this have you no that is that is most is that when you just I think I gave you the can for that no it's it's definitely one completely my manager move of include what no no the computer is on fire in this video don't worry about ok so there's something maybe get Alex to work on this I've wanted to do this since scrappy doors for I wanted to work with rod on this but it's like it isn't really working out I want to look into fire cooling fire cooling using fire to pull the air through the chassis okay I could be that buyer would consent it so you use it to pull through yeah so get some big heat sinks yeah okay get a fire going okay fire cooling I like it yeah I like it cool something with heat so other things that we have on there right now we have the worst CPU cooler ever sketchy heatsinks episode 2 oh man that thing really is abominable I will point be open to other Creators underwater microphone for GoPro wow that's an amazing picture not for a while yeah not photoshopped very relocated dolphins adult dolphins their photo sure did you do that we have the RGB Ram roundup they were school and I think now we're caught up to - what's up on you RGB rare roundup yep it definitely is 2017 he had dogs all right so why don't you address some of the questions that people have about Lee a lot of its going really fast and I haven't really actually seen a toggle oh okay how is hopefully supposed to be different the video confuse me so if you remember vessel back in the day there was an idea where a video would show up on vessel one week before it showed up on YouTube and there were exceptions to this like LAN show or anything that was extremely timely if a new product just came out it would show up on both platforms at the same time etc etc etc floatplane is going to accomplish that and and hopefully much more it should have different tiers the quality should be better well it will hopefully soon have its own platform which we are very actively working on gets on the website yeah not just a sub forum on Linus tech tips comm which is like the Anglian works but it is pretty janky yeah and so yeah it will have other tiers that people can subscribe at which will have other things that having our own kind of CDN things set up will enable us to give to the people that are contributing the biggest difference I think from in terms of what we think will make it a success business-wise is that instead of being a burden on the creator instead of being a contract that a creator signs and commits to like a one week early access window that you know they are contractually obligated to uphold that could potentially hurt their ability to get the best discoverability on YouTube that's the strength of YouTube discoverability and reach a broader audience we're not looking to damage that so for us the way that creators would use floatplane club would be up to them yeah so if they wanted to go like a more roosterteeth type route and say okay we want a for our early access window sure then we'd kind of go okay then go ahead and do that you know whatever whatever your subscribers are down for we think is totally cool we just want to build the platform for them and allow them to use it as they will and part of the the like mentality behind the whole time has been not trying to force people to stay there so we're going to try to have a very transparent we've always I think I like to think we've always been really transparent Atlantis Media Group we've literally have a series called honest answers or we explain like we're all going on your question how do we make money now you get review samples like things people really want to know and we want to be transparent not only to users with open club but also to creators we're not going to have weird shadow algorithm changes that like screw with everybody we're going to be very open about how we use people data we're not going to tell people's data etc etcetera etcetera so yeah the idea is the idea is pretty simple we Vessel shut down on us pretty much overnight and we went wow thank goodness we are smart and talented enough mostly what's sitting in that chair to replace this functionality for ourselves what about other people who were successful with a tool like vessel and who would want something like that in the future or we're interested what are they going to use or who are just interested what about why is it that you have to be a giant sort of mega publisher like college humor or escapist magazine or roosterteeth that can afford to develop your own platform in order to move viewers off platform where the Creator can make a lot more purview and deliver additional benefits to the viewer why do you have to be a mega publisher in order to achieve them we don't think you should have to be so that's the idea we're building something that we were going to build anyway for ourselves because we have that capability now and then we're taking it eight steps further to make it accessible to other people yeah that's floatplane club so people can use it like you were talking earlier however they want they can set up whatever tiers they want maybe they have a 14-year exclusivity window that would be a pretty bad way to use the platform I think personally but they can do that if they want we like our one-week model it works for us in terms of like a pacing of how we work on videos someone the chat asks do flow playing videos ever hit YouTube yes all of them yep that is definitely the idea sometimes the window ends up being longer than a week because timely videos go in the slot that it's supposed to go in and it gets bumped back and weird things happen but they always eventually hit YouTube and I don't think we actually have a great example of that so see this the RX 570 and 580 review that went up simultaneously yeah and for that reason going back further the red weapon unboxing is not up on YouTube yet even though it was posted on floatplane Club on April 13th yeah so something like a red epic unboxing those written weapon unboxing is awesome I think it's super cool I'm excited to define a time sensitive yeah it's not a new camera it's an equally relevant piece of content two weeks from now three weeks from now quite frankly and a large percentage of people you guys are watching away and show you so you guys have probably heard about flow claim before but a fairly large percentage of people when vessel died thought we just didn't have that anymore right and didn't notice anything changed because nothing changed nothing changes you still get the exact same amount of videos mm-hmm they're just also somewhere else a little bit early so if you're not interested in full plane don't worry about it enjoy your life have a happy day yeah but if you want to see some stuff in a place that honestly has better comments and does have a guest can't can't just comment section I'll say yeah yeah and that drives us to engage with it more - which is oh there's more comments from internal staff on there and like better bit rates and most scenarios because it's variable okay I tried to ask this question a handful of times would you guys ever get people like team four star I have no idea what that is yeah do you know what that is not okay and how would you handle the MCA so dmca we would handle it the same way we're required to by law yeah as for creators I'm assuming they're like edgy or something so at least for the foreseeable future creators would be on an invitation-only basis ah because it opens us up to a lot of liability to be hosting video content from our site we would have to make sure that it's people that we trust so you would expect the initial roster to be people who we know personally yeah and that's about it a big part of that is we don't want to grow too fast and break the prop or something I'm not one-on-one asking would we be able to make an exclusive series for floatplane club like nerd sports was on vessel yes we would do nothing to prevent a creator from uploading exclusive content and using float playing club as so you can understand what the creator page is going to look like it's going to look like your page slope lane club takes only like the sliver down the left and I think the top banner yeah everything else is branded the Creator and unless the person browsing that page actively follows other creators we don't plan to have a ton of discoverability tools included no the idea is that a creator would be able to direct their viewer to their page engage one on one and not have to worry about any BS that happens in between that so whatever it is that they want to deliver we want them to have the ability to upload it manage it the way that they want and deliver a really high-quality viewing experience and because the platform will be paid every view will be paid for at some point so people that are subscribed to us on floatplane club right now are paying 3 bucks a month we can afford to do that and I've had people point out to me well YouTube could flip a switch and double their bit rates I disagree in fact I think that because of their scale they're actually less likely to do that if it were to cost YouTube a fraction of a cent more to deliver each view that would actually add up to something real yeah whereas if it costs us a fraction of a cent more to increase the bitrate of every beat what do we care yeah yeah it's a very interesting experience and like like he said with the maybe stuff that doesn't go on YouTube or whatever a creator can do that we don't have any plans to do that but a creator could do that if they wanted actually I thought about it but just like cell phone footage okay not like real videos well that that would be maybe where like we'd have like an additional feed yeah because there's like there's a I'm not going to go way too into it right now but the like the other section which one oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so it could just go in like a different area watch the mic pick that up anyways um people asking what about YouTube red yeah what about it so YouTube red is site wide and includes google play music great product we think people should subscribe to YouTube bread it dramatically increases the per view like the per view earnings for the creators that you love you know and there's absolutely no reason not to continue to enjoy YouTube red I mean for us really we want to challenge creators to come up with different and new ways to make floatplane Club worthwhile for their viewers so you know we'd love to we're also not going to be the like developers developers developers where we're just going to put it completely in their hands we'll have some like guidelines and suggestions of how they can do stuff yeah so the idea would be like you know on YouTube bread it's pretty straightforward you subscribe to youtube bread you don't see ads that's it that's all there is to it what if you had other ideas what if you had ideas like you wanted a subscriber only chat for the first half an hour what if you had ideas like you wanted people to have custom emojis you know things that are available on other platforms like Twitter but not on YouTube what if you had ideas like you wanted to have a mailing list like a newsletter or something you're going to do that to youtube bread know so it's it's a tool box that's the idea yeah okay well I don't want the whole stream to end up being about this although I will say that we're not losing viewers people are apparently pretty interested in it bottom let's go ahead let's move on to some of the other stuff that's going on the original article hears from CNBC Nintendo's Ness mini apparently the rumor is allegedly Nintendo was discontinuing the Ness mini in order to make room for the Ness mini which will rumor Glee be ready for the end of the year I love this sub headline here the smash had popular games including Super Mario World and Donkey Kong Country really the sniff had popular you have got to be kidding me no way apparently some Ness classic consoles are on you day for as much as 5 grand that's stupid anyway um ok yeah that's pretty straightforward I basically covered everything that was so the noose Ness will also have plug-and-play setup and an array of games would come pre-installed and ready to play ok well like maybe some random dude put one up for 5 grand that no one's buying because there's other ones that are not $5,000 they look like two to three hundred dollars on average which is a lot but it's not 5 grand a little blown out of proportion cosplay goes bad for a gamer in Grand Prairie or goes really really well I have an alternative take on this go for it though um basically the guy was walking around the street with wearing what looked like a bomb on his back he was dressed as a character from Fallout wearing a gas mask helmet armor and bullet belt carrying a flag that's a new California Republic so first up you're an idiot so there's that a little bit at least eight officers responded with their long guns drawn yes we do have guns in Canada and yes if you walk around looking like you're loaded for bear we actually have you will get them pulled onto you who per cap Canada has a lot of guns yeah like a huge amount compared to most countries he was observed going into a Linz alterations because he wanted some alterations made to the costume through conversation with the man police were able to determine that he was wearing a costume and that there was no threat to the public what had looked like a bomb turned out to be several chip cans that were painted silver the man was taken into custody but later released without any charges and probably a stern talking-to about being a complete idiot so I think this is fantastic for the guy like one of the best things that could have happened to him reason being uh-huh a lot of cosplayers going to get sponsored I'm settling in here he made a cosplay costume that was good enough to fool the police to get guns drawn on him to get him pulled in okay so I'm gonna stop you right there and say you're as much of an idiot as haha I see because the maja you were there when we were doing the first channel secret okay yeah on the bug I saw a bright yellow gun did narrow bottoms on you to a bright yellow gun that fires salt tickle flies they thought if you officers they have to respond if someone reports you someone with a gun yeah so it was an idiot neighbor it could have been any idiot the police had to respond but there was eight of them that a drew gun okay that's fair if I remember correctly they just walked up casually and we're like okay no Dobby don't walk around not winging it around cuz like your neighbors are great they thought it was cool yeah they tried it yeah yeah they were actually pretty cool cops like they were they didn't draw guns it's a little bit different so this guy can take this and go like look my cosplay so good it fooled eight different cops they drew guns on me it's impressive bring me your convention pay me and make a cosplay thing I'm there it should be the best thing that's ever happened to his career terrible man claims this is from Ars Technica calm his Bose headphones intercept what he's listening to an Illinois man says my headphones transmit audio metadata to data miners segment dot IO why would they be doing this brutal it's a claim the civil complaint alleges that those collects the names of any music and audio tracks played through the headphones along with the customers personally identifiable serial number it also says this information gets sent to third parties including data miner segment I o Moses lawyers likely will argue that while it may be sending out copies of the metadata artist song title etc its actions do not constitute contents of any wire or or oral or electronic communication as defined under the relevant wiretap law therefore it could argue that they are not liable the counterpoint is that those products interacts with consumer smartphones which transmit operational instructions regarding skipping and rewinding audio tracks which would be content holy crap what's the hell man super lame don't like it at all I guess it's not enough to get to $2.99 that someone like no wonder Wireless is there like 399 there really sorry they're really expensive you already got $400 for a bomb cost that has got to be less than $100 we need someone else to make really good active noise-cancelling headphones sennheiser dixie 550 is available liked the i tried both of them the bose ones were way more comfortable they are more comfortable you just said really good you didn't say really more comfortable really good isn't over they sound really good they sound better yeah yeah I'm just saying which Isis found in this potential I didn't say that I just that I like to the Bose Comfort more because I wear Sennheiser headphones and I prefer some hazard sound signature and I'm very used to how most n eyes or headphones sit on your head and Heiser's audiophile line the HD line has a different feel that I wish they would just abandon all their other fields and just stick with yeah but it's not very it's no recordable it's not very portable it doesn't look very good yeah so I get it but yeah yeah uh Microsoft is doing its own Chromebook thing it's kind of weird that's pretty cool so our original article here is from TechCrunch so it's supposed to be one of those like a Jew cloud kind of devices it's very targeted at education stuff because it's supposed to be either spin effective no pictures of it like you just said but yeah low-end laptop cloud-based services all-day battery quad-core intel celeron processors shouldn't be that bad I mean quad core so it's probably going to lose because it's Microsoft's cloud services versus anything Wow you're as savage as this jerky Oh seriously though that's mean I mean um was it wrong what's it called SkyDrive or onedrive now I can't even keep track anymore I think onedrive ones wrong this is that bad I hate it you upload the file you don't like it now like here yeah all right sounds weird Oh Apple yeah Apple whole home water cooling heating you ruining my buzz right you're just you're harshing it um Apple originally posted by PC world will return heat generated by the data center to warm up homes so this is being done in Denmark this is a new data center that's focused on returning to the community so it's uh it'll be fully powered by renewable energy part of it coming from recycling waste products from farms and won't put stress on the local grid and they're making a major push to be one of the greenest companies on the planet um the new corporate headquarters that I wonder how much it costs in building materials and how much that all harms the earth to solve it from wherever they got it anyway at one point their new corporate headquarters called Apple Park will run on renewable energy they've also cut their use of toxic materials and are using more recycled materials and products and packaging pretty epic all right I got that's pretty much it you well thank you for watching the land show and thank you for participating in the land show thank you as well thank you vinick's been a good week yeah house I ate this whole pack yeah it's fine it'll take me a lot longer to get through all right mojo habit I love to maple bacon I like the mojo habanero the ghost pepper one when I pulled this out was when I could have had another ghost ever what if I really wanted to but it's like it's like just slightly outside of my like comfortable tolerance level the Mojo habanero is like right in where it's like all right so this is 95% flavor 5% uncomfortable but that was the one with the citrus right I think so not one's nice it's good yeah anyway I'm sorry I got a little destroy time juice is the second ingredient intro outro it's the end and then water and then orange juice and then lemon juice that makes sense before I read the ingredient oh I so want to do this video and sting I'll even leave it right here into my stuff okay I can't promise no one will steal yourself yeah look at this PS the sriracha bacon is amazing golden golden you're not on the land shell forget it stop trying to insert yourself into the land show you came in stole a bag I know Hey
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