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um do you want the camera to be adjusted oh yeah we've got a little bit too much Headroom do you mind that's good yeah and we're live ladies and gentlemen welcome a to the LAN show Luke is cavorting about in Asia so he couldn't join us but that's ok we have budget Luke sorry is it discount Luke sorry cavort John port dance around excitedly I hope he's cavorting yeah oh I'm pretty sure he's cavorting he loves hanging out over there I'm pretty sure that's the only reason that he wanted to go to Computex Luke if you're watching I'm on to you it's the only time he cavorts yes the time he avoids I rarely cavort but when I do it's in Asia he actually can't really come for it over there because a lot of the time the ceilings are too low oh I thought you'd say he would like to squish people step on them he really does stand there get back I'm cavorting in a very real way so yeah we've got a really great show for you guys today and I'd love to tell you about it except my laptop is updating so maybe James can tell us what some of the great topics we have are we're gonna talk about our favorite things from WWDC I actually do have some favorite things from WWDC like not everything was bad ok no spoilers though ok and remember when YouTube was down last weekend we do remember when the LAN show was supposed to go up last weekend there's lots of things conspiracy and AMD and Samsung partner up for ultra low power graphics and possibly mobile phones all that and more at 11 News at 11:00 roll the intro this is great I just like the timing someone messages how rich is Linus in the chat and someone super chats $0.99 not so much that he doesn't appreciate this it's actually less than 99 cents because YouTube takes a cut of that oh they taken how to super chat course they do how much it's not like 30% no I think it's more than that yeah I actually don't know super chats while we definitely appreciate people's generosity are not really a needle mover for us and part of it is that YouTube does take a significant portion of it so super Chat YouTube portion sorry I have to look this up because I actually don't know how much money does YouTube take from super chats this is an article on stream geeks and I should probably be looking it up on my laptop now that it's not updating anymore and then I could actually share this with you we are directing all the super shots to Brandon now no that was just that one time hey Brandon you got your free lunch right okay good just checking those super traps move the needle for you guys please continue super chats please god he got a free he got a free lunch out of it so that's pretty good I can ice all right how much money does YouTube take from super chat wow this is a really long article for just like search on dollar sign or search on percent control f you have seen our 100% YouTube live super truck blah blah blah okay when I click the estimated revenue and YouTube's analytics it was roughly thirty percent less than the total super chat amount so they take a 30 percent cut of Super chats through YouTube that's exorbitant well yes and no its exorbitant hold on a second yes and no it's not quite that simple because for one thing Google while they do use their own payment processor which saves them a lot if they were using a third-party payment processor you could be looking at as much as 30 cents or more per transaction plus a percentage of the transaction so even if I was just using stripe or Braintree to take a dollar from you over the Internet thank you very much I would still be giving 30% of that over 30% of that to my payment processor this is something that we've learned the hard way as we've developed floatplane Luke's not here so we're not going to talk about floatplane attend today but my apologies to the floatplane fans out there only blockchain can save us well save us blockchain yeah but the transactions aren't even Freeth with crypto like some crypto currencies have very high transaction fees especially if you want the transaction to go through in a reasonable amount of time yes I know it depends but the some of the more commonly used ones have extraordinarily high transaction fees whatever man it's the future all right it's it's hard to have a real conversation but then I mean you don't cost as much as Luke so it's discount conversation I don't okay no one wants to have a blockchain conversation right now I just want to make the joke and leave it okay that that's fair you know uh bitcoins up what like 60% this year though last I checked it was is it like 10 grand I don't I don't know honestly I'm like now we're having a blockchain conversation I'm I'm out it's 8 grand it's 8,000 US dollars so I'm I'm out I don't care anymore so I'm actually trying not to pay too close attention to it I'm just like you know what forget it you guys enjoy your crypto thing call me when it's actually manageable to integrate as a payment system call me when you know the Canadian banks and the Canadian government have all decided on a way to deposit and withdraw this stuff and not have everything disappear mysteriously in a weird town in India where people are known for going to fake their own deaths you heard about that right the specific one no um so what's the what's the crypto exchange that went down the one that was like based out of here uh what was that called I don't know they all have the same name out of business owner died quadriga yeah quadriyyah so it's a 30 year old CEO and co-founder died of complications arising from crohn's disease while traveling in India supposedly except the circumstances of his death are spurious all right yeah but did that ever come to a conclusion I don't believe it has at this point but I haven't been paying really close attention to it because like I said I'm out I hope he's alive I really do I like over a hundred million dollars of assets like are you saying you've never fantasized those faking your own death it's a sick funny thing to think about it's illegal as far as I know isn't it I think it is yeah I mean you know the thing is that you know most of the people who do it you know never get prosecuted because they're actually dead I love how there's like a mecca for this like if you want to fake your death come here how can you have a good fake if everyone knows oh he died in that town no one really dies there like their whole newspapers obituaries like big news yeah so I don't know like there's a place there's a place there I forget what the town is called or like like the area is called but they're really well known for document forgeries including things like birth certificates and death certificates and that happened to be and this could be a tinfoil hat conspiracy theory in fact YouTube chat is probably blowing up being like I personally oh wow it is blowing up like I personally saw the dead body or whatever like good for you so yeah like I said it's possible this is all nonsense it's a hub for makeup artists but it's it's possible someone says not illegal you have the right to disappear yeah you can disappear but you can't you can't forge a death certificate because that is a legal document so that would be about like forging a land deed like you can't do that and because there are such large incentives for some people for faking their own death there's definitely definitely is that not make it so you can't do that faking your death is sometimes called pseudo side pseudo sigh that is great I like that that's that's lever Wow well don't know if it's illegal or not yet but how about Apple stuff how about it how about it alright well why don't we why don't we bring up the WWDC news and kind of kind of talk through some of our the wind or favorite things the land dock why would I go to the weather's the links therein I know but the people who work on that they just don't do a very good job it's funny cuz he's the one who works on the window alright alright alright alright so there's like nothing in here I said follow the links the links your I didn't build this out because you already made videos about this you know this we all know this stuff alright so should we start with the Mac Pro now I've kind of said everything that I want to say about the Mac Pro I there oh actually I do have a couple small Corrections from the video that I made earlier this week so I had speculated that the the very low end system configurations that only have four sticks of memory might not support six channel memory right I remember right after the Mac Pro announcement we missed it Intel announced their 3000 series Xeon w lineup that was going to be the processors in the Mac Pro and it does go all the way down to eight cores and Apple apparently confirmed that no there will only be one motherboard so they're just shipping a 6 channel motherboard 6 channel CPU and they're just putting four sticks of memory in it because 6 grand for a an 8 core processor makes a ton of sense no from like an optimization standpoint well what does that mean well it means that you're getting effectively 66% of the memory bandwidth that you otherwise would now with that said you've only got a piddly 8 core processor so who cares I guess because it's not like it's not like a 28 core where you could legitimately have a workload you're running on it that needs all of that memory bandwidth like you just don't have the come pew to justify it anyway but I also just don't think that an eight-core configuration of this machine should exist it doesn't make sense like so much of the price of this thing is making up for the R&D of the case design it seems to me that you're just not getting any value on the on the low-end on the low-end I think there's people already defending it but I don't I don't understand these people because on the low-end you should just be buying a latest gen iMac it has an 8 core processor ECC memory it's a really it's a really interesting feature because I even went as far so we published a very negative review of intel's previous xeon w lineup the one that was based on their LGA 2066 platform and what Anthony and I concluded and I ultimately said in the video was these things are a rip by an ad DT processor because the only differentiating factor is that they support ECC memory which if you really needed it while AMD supports ECC up and down their entire lineup all the way from thread Ripper down to Rison 3 so if you absolutely must have that there might be an AMD option for you go check that out and you lose overclocking support which depending on your workload might actually make sense because you're using their c6 20 whatever chipset instead of their ex 299 chipset which has overclocking support built into it so we ultimately concluded that you were paying anywhere from 500 and over dollars for a trade-off in features that may or may not have any value to you and Intel was upset about my conclusion because they said well actually you know Xeon w is good for workstations and I went why is it good and they said well because it's made for workstations and I said well what makes it made for workstations exactly and they said well it has DCC support and I said well that's nice what does that do for me because here's the thing the perception for a lot of years was that in xeon processors were somehow better than their consumer equivalents and there have been times when they actually were but over time the rd cost to make a new CPU design has become such an enormous part of the cost of a processor that by the time you've done all that R&D it's actually cheaper to just make the same cpu and put it under two different brands with some features turned on or turned off and a feature that you would turn off would never be stability like you does not think about it it is not an intel's interest for their core series processors to crash once every four hundred and twenty two hours to what end so intel can talk about how xeon w is really stable but if you ask well is core i nine not stable they just kind of yeah it's stable and it is so what i asked them to do was okay guys let's talk about ECC i want to do a video where you guys take me to like you know Sandia National Lab or something and and we we we simulate a solar a solar event we flip a bit we actually flip a bit on a memory chip and show that this system recovered from it and this one didn't and they were like we can't do that like they physically can't do that they don't have the instruments to do that they wouldn't clarify okay they were just like we can't do that and so I said well then my conclusion about your processor given that there is no meaningful demo I also lied before we got as far as like going to a laboratory and like doing this I asked well give me a demo give me something I could do on two machines that shows that this one is more stable than this one and they were like we don't have any workload like that I kind of went okay thanks guys like the thing you gotta understand is that ECC does do something in the event of an accidental bit flip it is supposed to recover from it the thing is that each subsequent generation of ddr technology has also added more resiliency against accidental errors so I'm not saying it doesn't have a value today I'm just saying that it's not a value that even Intel was able to design a test for me to be able to demonstrate this the people I talked to there if anyone from Intel is watching and knows a way that we can do this yo hm new as the kids say right I'm almost as old as you now man yeah and you're gonna be wait is that public knowledge or no that's okay and he's gonna be a dad too yeah he's gonna be the second dad at Linus Media Group I was gonna say second parent but my wife works here she's also a parent that's true she's very obvious she's a parent oh that was great oh I'm gonna let that wash over me for a second yeah so it's like a feature that is over serving those people and being disrupted by the same companies other features yes anyway I forget where I was going with this right you should just buy an iMac because it's a faster eight core even thermal throttling I think it's still faster than this that's Z on W because yeah whatever or something and then that even ignores the iMac Pro which starts at 5 grand and I think what does what does its core count start at I feel like we need to go like look at that now my Mac Pro Apple USA I don't think this is going to take me to the US site no it's not well whatever we'll just do it manually thank you very much for that you know what the prices I love how this stuff you know me the price no I do need the prices because the the Mac Pro is gonna start at 6 grand so if we have a look at where the iMac Pro starts because remember these are not the same processors they fit in an entirely different socket but from a performance standpoint I don't believe Intel has changed anything like a clock speed for clock speed core for core they should be quite similar so let's go ahead and have a peekaboo at what we get for this so we got a 3.2 gig of gigahertz Xeon w that turbos to 4.2 and what do we get the Mac Pro we got a 3.5 that turbos to 4.0 so let's configure it we've got a grand to spend because they both come with 32 gigs of ram in the base configuration and to know this one has a 1 terabyte SSD out of the box of course it does right so we can add another 2 frickin course and I'm not saying the iMac Pro is a perfect machine I'm just saying it also happens to include a display with a stand and it'll all perform the base model Mac Pro on paper we will have to actually test that we might have to crack open our iMac pro again oh stop cracking it put like different processes of cracking it please oh I know I know I think the graphics card is the most embarrassing thing about this stock configuration really a 580 X let's fire up the new egg comm now I know it's a Radeon Pro or whatever but you guys got to understand that is a they'll just bend that's it no that is just a driver switch that AMD flips it is the same bloody card 5 ATX hold on typing yeah I'm working on it I'm working on it so what is a 5 ATX cost these days here's an msi Armour whatever $200 like we're talking at a $200 graphics card in a system that costs 6 grand so basically the message that Apple is sending with this base configuration is by this if you're the kind of like ego image is everything moron that wants to have a Mac Pro as a status symbol but actually doesn't care at all about what's under the hood of it at all yeah that's the message it's like being like oh I need a Mercedes to impress the ladies and everyone else is like yeah it's the cheapest one yes but as long as the ladies don't know that I guess you're good then you're good so as long as it's cheese ladies who aren't into cars what else did I did I want to say about the Mac Pro right okay so we know it's all the same socket so no you don't get a different motherboard it's just stupid now I've had people say well what if you want to upgrade in the future well then you should use your current machine for now and you should upgrade when you order because upgrading computers is very rarely a good idea now I'm not saying you should get the you know most loaded out memory configuration in fact there's a good chance that companies like Oh WC or iFixit are gonna have kits that you can use to upgrade that stuff for much cheaper I'm just saying that you're basically buying a processor that you then are just gonna put in a bin and trust me no one else is gonna want it because the kind of motherboard that's gonna fit in LGA 3647 xeon w is gonna cost five hundred six hundred dollars nobody buys a board like that and puts a cheapo eight core processor in it that's stupid it's an imbalanced machine that's my point it's six grand it's got a throwaway processor a throwaway graphics card and memory that honestly let's see it's 32 gigs so what is that so that 8 gig sticks so that limits your total upgrade ability as well because it's only got 12 memory slots so 32 times 3 is what like 96 96 gigs of ram like that's probably Lots but you're better off getting 16 gig sticks because that doubles the overall expansion like if upgrade ability is what you've got in mind don't buy parts that you have to throw away and that no one will ultimately want so why do you think Apple makes this skew they make this skew for the for the ego people do you think it's it's their most profitable build oh no no I think they're just because people will buy I think that they are trying to maintain not just a profit margin but also a GP dollars profitability to this product because my dream by GP dollars gross profit dollars okay so so they just want to have covers as as wide a swath of the market as possible yeah so so they want to hit the lowest price point they can while still making what they would have expected to make regardless of which SKU they sell on the core components that they're selling which are ultimately the case a licence for mac OS which is ultimately tied to the main board the sorry the logic board but if that's the case then this and if this product is over lapping with performance wise with the other products as you just showed us then it's cannibalizing those other products to me that doesn't make sense unless it's the case that at Apple those teams are kind of segregated and each team is responsible for getting is it's much gross profit on its product line I actually have and they're competing teams I doubt it works that way I think apples a little bit smarter and a little bit more organized than that I suspect that the only reason they wouldn't care about this cannibalizing their other products is that it's more profitable or as profitable so ultimately it doesn't matter what you buy okay and I would suspect based on the load out of something like an iMac Pro I suspect that this is a higher margin product even if they are assembling it in the US as I think they had committed to doing don't quote me on that though okay so yeah they just have a they just have a base amount of GP dollars that they need to make in order to make this product make sense for their shareholders and well screw you you get to buy a config that doesn't make any sense because remember to imagine this imagine if it didn't start at 6,000 okay imagine if it started at 12 13,000 okay people would be outraged about that too and instead of it just being nerds like me that are gonna break down the spec and go well this is imbalance this doesn't make sense you know you've effectively you effectively bought you know that xform a case that we showed the like $1,300 case and you know put an entry-level CPU and graphics card in and like you're an idiot you know but the people who are mad right now are the giant nerds whereas if they announced a product that was that started at $13,000 everyone would be right there they're like common customer would feel alienated that's right yeah okay now it seems attainable even though what you're buying is essentially stuff to throw away and upgrade later if you are intending to do any serious work with it okay how would the monitor though oh yeah we can talk about the monitor so I can't wait to see it it's gonna be a great monitor let's say that it's gonna be a great monitor oh the monitor I'm pretty excited about actually now Brandon was actually telling me about um a really interesting post that someone created where their main problem with the monitor was not necessarily its hardware capabilities but whether or not apple was going to adhere to any of the existing standards for HDR because if Apple comes in and says okay we're competing with the the Flanders of the world you know we're talking thirty thousand plus dollar displays so this person's problem with it at that point was it doesn't have enough local dimming zones it's gonna have bloom it's just it's simply not suitable versus if Apple was coming in and they wanted to compete with sort of the the more the more average creation monitors they were saying that well Apple needs to Apple needs to just be aware of and adhere to standards like HDR 10 that already exists instead of you know forging their own path with this but what do they call it XD our extreme dynamic range or something like that I can't remember exactly exactly what their wording was for it now I I think that with like Apple isn't perfect but they tend to be good at designing an end-to-end workflow what I suspect is that right around the time this Mac Pro launches there gonna have some new workflow tools within Final Cut with in Mac OS that are going to make working with HDR content easier and I think that they they're going to have to acknowledge that there are standards like hlg HDR 10 Dolby building vision that already exists and that they have to make their tools work for I am NOT as pessimistic as that person was but I also am not as well-versed in it as they are so I'm gonna be really interested to see how this how this goes and how long this display is even that interesting for OLED only has to get a little bit brighter to make more sense because remember it's high dynamic range not necessarily how many nits you can pump through a display so all that only has to get a little bit brighter before for my for myself I'd rather be editing I'd rather be creating on something that has no bloom and 570 is 576 zones 532 I can't remember how many it was but 32-inch yeah that's a lot of zones on a 32-inch but it's sure as heck not an emissive display technology I actually we checked out a display with 512 512 zones just on a 35 M on a 35 inch and so it's not quite an apples to apples comparison but would you say based on what you saw that apples 500 to 600 class display on a 32 inch is going to be sufficient for like real color accurate contrast accurate color work no it depends on okay well it depends on the aggressiveness because on the display that you and I looked at it was which was the PG 35 B sometimes known as BQ it has such aggressive local dimming that there was always bloom and it was you could really see when you move the cursor from one little 1 inch 1 inch zone to another that you missed when we were playing Tomb Raider didn't you I played it myself earlier but I was there with you did you play any scenes with really high contrast a little bit ok I didn't notice any problems ok because I is really impressed with how well it did when gaming it was only one on the desktop that sucked on it I think sucked is probably about the right word yeah yeah yeah all I'm saying is like Oh even with that many zones five hundred zone x' and that size they're still like that they were about an inch pretty big it's big yeah and apples is gonna be smaller but not that much smaller not that much smaller no like maybe point eight of an inch like 0.85 of an inch but yeah so cuz remember - we're talking about a thirty five inch display but it's a thirty five inch 21 by nine display that is not in terms of actual display surface area that's not as much bigger as it sounds compared to a 32 inch is it sixteen by nine nine or ten I actually don't remember but even you even see bloom on oh let's I think it just has to do with the perception of the eye though that's true that's true you do see some blue mono LEDs but like you said I think part of it is just the eyes contrast capabilities yeah and that's actually another thing that's another reason why I do question how much brighter OLED really has to get for the HDR experience to be really really good on it because we're already at the point now where the brightest whites on an OLED right next to the blackest blacks like my eye has a hard time seeing that line yeah so if we want something like a like a candle burning in the middle of the darkroom if we want it to bleed out if that's the filmmakers desired effect I mean far off I just don't know how much more work is gonna get be put into OLED because seems like micro light is kind of looming in like the three to five year horizon no and and apples when the company is doing really heavily as far as as far as the public is aware anyway yeah I don't know how big of displays are playing on making with it though it's supposed to be pretty scalable alright that's one of the one of the selling points of micro light I believe that it's kind of like you can just scale it up or down now this was a really fun conversation that I actually had with some of the folks at Nvidia and I don't believe ya know there's nothing about this that would have been off the record or nd8 or anything like that but I was um pardon my ignorance every once in a while I get something completely wrong so I was under the impression that when we talk about micro LED technology you know what we really need to do our sponsor spots but yes we are we are running out of time on the wind 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Sony's that's pretty hot that's pretty hot right is there is there a reason we don't just turn on the normal are you sure I don't know if they take 10 minutes I think we'd see them glowing by now I don't think there are I'm happy with this it looks cool yeah organic so my first exposure to micro LED blow I'm not the one looking in the light was with the Sony Cledus display yeah and have you heard of the cleaner yeah that's es oh did you see it I wasn't there that year but the head of the next year didn't okay so the cleanest display is really trippy because the way that it's like a modular display and we've seen technologies like this before but it's a unique one because it's got these panels that are about this big and then you just assemble them together into whatever size and resolution display you want now that's not unique what's unique is that the cleanest display uses an emissive display technology like OLED except it's not all it's it's micro LEDs okay so they've got these tiny tiny micro LEDs red green and blue and they emit directly from the display so there's no backlight or anything like that but the way that they achieve near-perfect blacks on a Cletus display is that I forget what the exact number is but it's a flavor made of black dots no no no it's not like a bunch of black dots that you can see if you go really close to it no instead I can illusion when you back up it's a little bit different than that though so they actually allowed me to go up to it here I'm just yeah I remember everyone was everyone was tense I'm like no don't go that close okay ultimate picture bla bla bla where is it okay here we go okay right because so the reason they can get nearly perfect blacks out of it is that 99% of the cletus display doesn't emit light weird it's just it's actually black so you're looking at this giant display made bet that emits light they're micro LEDs they're super bright but they're actually tiny they're micro LEDs and all the area around them is just black are they clustered or are they spread out with lots of black in between they look like this yeah okay yeah so you've got a red green and a it's either a blue or yellow actually I don't remember but you've got three sub pixels for each pixel and the vast majority the display is actually black but because of the way that light spreads from a source you actually have to get about 18 inches from the screen in order for and it's weird your eyes like go weird as you move through the threshold kind of click in and then all of a sudden you go from seeing the entire image which has no perceivable gaps in it to seeing just these dots and they don't look like anything they just it's so weird okay so I thought that micro LED displays were specifically this technology okay I didn't ever stop and think about that a micro LED is just a small LED and you could do anything you wanted with it yeah I didn't think about that there were other ways that people were planning to use micro LEDs okay so I was talking to Nvidia because they were talking about these displays that bave that they've created with over 500 local dimming zones and they were talking about like yeah you know we see a clear path forward because which NVIDIA displays have over 500 beginnings well the one that we just checked out for one that's not Nvidia I'm talking about the Nvidia driver module and the the fuller a backlight control module that's videos okay yeah so okay that's actually an important point to clarify so they were talking about how you know going from 384 zones to over 500 zones to using many LEDs to micro LEDs they see this very clear technology progression whereas like I'd love an OLED g-sync display and I was like hey you guys working on that and they're kind of like you know they're vague right they're evasive we're working on everything you know what are we're a technology company what are we not working like they basically there's a not total non-answer when I drilled down where I ultimately like they wouldn't answer any questions about it but what I ultimately realized is that because OLED is an emissive display with completely different characteristics in terms of color mixing at different brightnesses you know making them color accurate the way that the pixels switch or rather they don't take a long time to switch like Nvidia would have to completely reinvent the desync module I see to run an OLED display so when they were talking about this clear path forward to mini LED and micro LED I totally misunderstood that they were talking about something like a cleanest display an emissive display using micro LEDs what they were actually talking about was using micro LEDs to have a much greater degree of granularity in a full array backlit IC okay so so what they're looking for as a business then is is evolution rather than revolution it's like we have this tried and tested stuff we just need to iterate to make it you know just do this but do it harder so it's smaller mid-drive it so what I ultimately came away with was that full array back lighting on LCD displays is not going anywhere and where we're probably headed is many many many more zones maybe where we get to the point where each zone is a mini LED or a micro LED so that the blooming becomes much less I don't remember what my point was in all of this anymore I think we were just talking about micro light coming out eventually oh yes so micro LED coming out eventually yes but maybe not in the form that you might think because a micro LED display could be an emissive display or it could just be really really small LEDs micro LEDs mm-hmm behind a regular old LCD panel so yes micro LED displays are coming we just don't know exactly what form they'll take and after that meeting with NVIDIA better understand extense to keep them as transmissive displace because when you have that many other well it depends on when you have if there are almost the level of being like for each pixel is a zone then the beauty of it is that you turn it off and you get the black levels of OLED yes right and the picture response times because the reason that LCDs have higher pixel response times than all that is that actually crystal to twist that takes time and to untwist yes and that's also related to why it's not as black because even when it's fully twisted some lights still gonna get through so why would you give up on all those awesome benefits because you've invested the last 25 years in LCD then get disruptive and do you know how they work get disrupted that but that's it because you know how they work because a lot of the time you can build even using an inferior technology you can build a better display when you understand the technology at play better and so yes get disrupted but the flip side of that is Apple's display is already sort of groundbreaking in terms of its contrast and peak brightness and all that the thing is the thing is $6,000 so but so is it be FGD what's the emissive one gonna be that's exactly my point how disruptive is that technology gonna be if it costs 50 grand or whatever you know what I mean well they should eventually it depends they could end up in phones it'd be great in your watch yes and I wonder if LG I'm sure LG is also investing in it it's just kind of interesting because they also are going so hard into OLED but they don't want to be the caught flat-footed either right no one wants to be caught flat-footed I think LG is still pretty heavily invested in all that only time will tell so we promised in the video thumbnail that we were gonna talk about not just the monitor but also the monitor stand want I understand the one from they wanted dozens come with yeah but it doesn't come with so I guess the argument here is that like the very expensive very very expensive monitors that you referenced earlier those don't come with stands either and it's just not in like in that category it's not industry standard to have a standing hey Brandon can you bring me something that's really stupidly overpriced like a handle or something you know you know what I'm talking about right yeah okay Brandon's gonna find something gonna be something related to a red okay so can i play devil's advocate for a moment here please I love Satan okay so there's a you got something for me okay yeah bat yeah what else you got how much is this this is 1295 for two okay wonderful how much is this is that still how much it costs us I'm Canadian okay three grand us all right it's just three grand okay so we got it we got a couple we've got a couple things here okay so when I buy a product my understanding is that it should come with pretty much everything that it needs to function right okay okay that's a very consumer centric point of view now I would say that if I were to if I were to graph out the now that now that I have experience in the professional world if I were to graph out my expectation of like a cost versus included accessories curve okay I would say as the cost approaches zero your included accessories go down you expect a more bare-bones experience so the cost approaches zero as the cost of my original purchase approaches zero so if I buy the cheapest phone on the market I'm not that surprised it doesn't come with some headphones okay right okay then as I as I step up in cost I expect my experience to be more and more complete and when you buy something like a galaxy s 10 you know it's got your we do theoretically alive but the camera's dead can you can you guys can you guys make sure the camera is gonna turn back on we just I'm sorry guys we just had we just had a short blackout let's call it brown no no it's called a brown out when it doesn't actually tell when yep I'm a short blackout yeah Wow we have a good name for that guys um we're describing an inverted parabola okay yeah so so basically you know I expect to get my my you know my headphones and and they'll run bundles and stuff so maybe it comes with a micro SD card for expansion and it's a fast charger a fast charger you know like an accessory bundle so unless its knife own yeah and then as I spend more that starts going I get into professional-grade rather than consumer grade gear the manufacturers expectation is that if you only have a little bit to spend you expect very little if you have a moderate amount of money to spend you expect a lot and if you have a lot of money to spend you probably don't care about the crap we were gonna include anyway and you're willing to pay more for a premium perfect option so I think there's a certain level of F you you've got the money anyway pay more that goes on when it comes to profession I don't think they would say that I think they would say that they wouldn't say cuz every because each piece is ostensibly so highly engineered and high-quality and so expensive you don't and low volume you don't want to be paying for things you don't need that would be the way they would say it they wouldn't say a few but it's just implied but if that were really the case if they're really being altruistic then there wouldn't be a $200 base adopter it would just be standard it you could just clip it on there yes okay so let's talk about then so again playing playing a little bit of devil's advocate here I don't think that Apple has missed the mark with their audience at all we are talking about Asian I think they're outright outraging the same person they were afraid of to outrage when we talked about the lower level I think they're gonna outrage people but I don't think those were the customer for this product at all we're talking about a six thousand dollar monitor once you get the anti-glare special etched glass coating we're talking about a six thousand dollar machine that it hooks up to at that point it is an eight percent difference in cost to get the pro stand or just or or what percentage is that or we're talking like a 1.75 percent difference in cost to get a vase amount right 1.5 percent that's all we're talking about $200 nothing people people who can afford that PE the $200 a grand not necessarily maybe they don't P it but maybe they can make that $200 back because this is a tool that they use for actual work so I paid how much should I pay for this the handle 1200 bucks for two for two a pair is $1200 okay so I paid $600 for this let's break it down a little bit here's a piece of machined aluminum here's a screw here's a little aluminum doohickey that you can twist here's a button another aluminum doohickey here's a little adjust II do Hickey with another little do that on it here's a rubber hose go let's go okay so $600 but I did this because there's nothing else on the market that has the the same level of ergonomics and build quality that allows us to operate the camera more comfortably so effectively I'm not buying some stupid aluminum doohickey I'm buying a solution I'm buying a camera operator whose back doesn't need Kairo appointments every week that ultimately my company's health plan is going to pay for that's what I'm buying so it's a different perspective and when it comes to legitimate professional level gear I'm not talking about an iPad pro that's not professional equipment a MacBook Pro is not professional equipment anymore people are doing real work on them but Apple has sullied that product line they have made it about a status symbol that you can use to browse Facebook hot take more than just about actually getting real work done and delivering the best possible performance now my thoughts may change when I actually haven't watched our review of the upcoming eight core MacBook Pro so I'm basing it on the one that thermal throttle lasts apparently it's a lot better but I'm talking about actual tools that actual professionals will buy to actually make money with them it's a different equation when you make money with something that you buy all these cognitively you can justify it sure also if you make more money with it than objectively mmm-hmm it's a good investment well hey do you know how much employee health care costs six hundred bucks whatever or like or like if someone quit because I I wouldn't I would couldn't provide the the ergonomic equipment that they need to not be in pain mm-hmm do you know how much it cost to train a person mm-hmm we're talking thousands and thousands of dollars in lost productivity what this makes them happy please all right hmm what do I care look how well I want a better chair chair do you have now I'm just joking all right I have had a really nice Herman Miller before our work it was pretty cool should we wrap it up is that in super chats can we do some super travel we should really do some super chats just for YouTube sake yes yes yeah here YouTube here's your here let's find the design the most expensive you super check YouTube can we get so YouTube here's 30 bucks from time and Doug Dole hey Linus Paradox Interactive of ck2 eu4 made a music video for their upcoming paradox Khan will be getting music video for LTX will we get a music video for LTX I have to confess I had not given that one nano second of the heart well I can imagine us having footage from LTX placed over music or with music and released as promotional material for the next one but I don't think we're gonna choreograph any dancing or get any sexy people in bikinis we could put us in bikinis is that something I can make sexy people in bikinis yeah I mean we're sexy aren't we compared to what Linus pH prototyping says would you ever consider fully building an entire production grade computer case from scratch for a video in the future absolutely in fact I mean that would one are we you okayed the wood the wood case did I did I okay making it from scratch no okay actually yeah that is something that we would consider doing it would have to be the right project I mean we have designed cases from scratch before my personal rig is in a completely custom-designed case that was built by proto case Anthony Birk hi Joseph thorny ER hi Chad hi hey Chad blame the dingus more free super chat Thank You junior Andrew moss pack says do you think Apple will lock out the PCI ports I sincerely hope that they don't at least not directly I think what Apple will do is they will limit the availability of drivers for devices to ones that they won't plugged into those PCIe ports just like they do with the Blackmagic EGP you exactly just like you can't plug an Nvidia graphics card into MacBook because Apple will not okay the drivers to be clear I actually had someone complaining in the comments on the mac pro video where I appeared to be blaming Apple for the rift between Apple and Nvidia to be clear I don't I suspect that between Nvidia and Apple you've got the two biggest egos in the entire industry and it's no wonder they can't get along and is probably equal parts both of their fault actually it's probably more invidious fault cuz bait they screwed Apple pretty good on those dying GPUs back in the day carpentry says Canadian dollars for the merge story please sorry it's not gonna happen anytime soon the vast majority of our audience is in the US and the ones that aren't quite frankly aren't either and the US dollar is kind of the international currency Oh apparently it's Shopify's fault we can't have multiple currencies on it oh wow we just call it you made me call out Shopify and you haven't double-checked it dang it Nick so you're saying you're rich so you don't care no I'm saying that I use these products to make money think about it this way you don't you can apply the same logic to anything as a as a parent whose kids won't use it very often I could say $75.00 Radio Flyer wagon is very expensive and I'm not gonna buy one but if my if my son were to say I'm gonna get a job delivering newspapers I can deliver newspapers 30% faster with a Radio Flyer wagon I could make back that money in seven days of delivering newspapers now it's not expensive it costs the exact same amount of money it's just a matter of measuring that amount that it costs against the ROI that it delivers for the business it's a different calculation it doesn't necessarily mean that you don't care about what the cost is it just means that there are other factors at play price is an arbitrary metric value so if your value if you value it differently that someone else does because of your circumstances then Scott says you crashed you tube with last week's mine show actually this is 2n shows in a row that they haven't managed to process correctly so my intention today is to kill the livestream and then re-upload it as Avadh they promise me it's not gonna happen again but they also couldn't offer an explanation as to why it happened last week and why it took an entire week for them to fix it Tyler gaming says I'm a Linux user haha I enjoy your very limited suite of creative professional software like come on it's not that simple you know that tommy gun says how's the 100k pc and personal rig doing my personal rigs great James helped me upgrade it again yesterday so I'm super stoked on that and 100k PC we have a video coming very soon we shot that this week okay I I'm gonna call that it thank you very much ladies and gentlemen and we will see you again next week same bat-time same bat-channel oh I am blurred 20 bucks sorry I will I will answer you do you know of a 2 & 1 or a convertible laptop with pen support for drawing that can also game at approximately medium settings Wow I wouldn't I wouldn't count on finding that I would more look for something that has a good drawing surface that has Thunderbolt and I would use a neat GPU when you're when you're gaming like I don't know what to tell you or I would wait for oh I would wait for wait what I would wait for 1/10 Jenna are gonna have better onboard graphics Alex PA prime from our editing team a super chat asking if this is a conflict of interest sending the super chat what are you even for two dollars are you even I'm reporting him I'm putting Messer in timeout fair timeout timeout No all right bye guys oh wait what the deuce rover yeah Rover apparently gets the whole thing honey us again oh no part of the intro it's dead and it's gone