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okay do we have audio twitchchat do we have audio do we have audio whip flickers what flickers I work we have light are we good does it work okay it's all good so but I'm like super low not impressed right now because we were doing did you if you saw that that unboxing we did up the Kraken X 40 where we were doing a dual cam setup we were using xsplit to record the both both camera angles and we were trying to capture audio to the FS or through the FS and it wasn't working it was popping and doing a lot of crazy sounds and stuff yeah but it wasn't I don't think it was as bad as what yeah well I think it's the problems that there was already plus the fact of like putting it through xsplit which is like barely working and then streaming it online to all these people like the combination of all those things probably just made it so much worse but basically that that puts me in a position where I'm kind of sitting here going well how does how's this supposed to work cuz I can record audio just fine to SD on this guy but something about opening the HDMI suddenly doesn't work guys this is the exact setup that we were using for live streams in the past and we didn't change anything and yeah so I mean we're sorry but I don't know what else to tell you because tonight we sat down to prep for the live stream an hour ago and we should have been just ready to go and everything should have just been fine but we've got a boat I don't know what half a dozen blue screens on the editing computer that ended up irony of ironies being caused by our AVerMedia live gamer HD which usually is totally solid compared to the Blackmagic car which usually crash and cause all kinds of random horrible problems but I think it might be because we were using the bottom PCIe 4x slot on a z77 board which is routed through the chipset rather than being routed directly to the CPU so yeah that sucked yeah um one other thing uh as I've seen a couple times posted in the extra chat as you may have heard the forum is kind of a live it's down right now because of physical server relocation meaning DNS servers that are everywhere I have to repopulate and refigure out where my server is so that you guys can go to the forum good news is everything will be exactly how it was the minute before I brought the server down so you're not gonna lose your posts you're not gonna lose your accounts yeah you're not gonna lose whatever you had it's just gonna be down until something some way or decides that everyone can now see the forum and we're really thrilled with how much traction there's been on the forum already I mean you guys have been amazing and I don't think even that many of you know about it yet yeah I mean dude do any of do any of you guys know yet there's a few people one guys saying what is the IP screw wave the DNS I can't do that because the htaccess file in my apache folder is pointing certain things in certain places based off of your own name so if you go to the IP address it's just like an FTP site basically so it's not really gonna help you very much um nexium my buddy and I have been spending incredible amounts of times huge thanks to him he's done tons of things that I have no idea what he's doing it's all of hoodoo magic he's but huge part of the reason pretty much the reason why the forum was up at all so thanks nexium but we've been slaving away making vv5 be both in five work at all it's incredible we are the only site that I know if it's actually a production website like not like an example web site hosted IV bulletin that's actually running this software and there's a lot of things that are broken like editing posts has a lot of you have probably already noticed just doesn't work like you can edit the post but when it goes to the Edit screen your post isn't there so it's good it's kind of weird like there's a lot of stuff that's broken like that that we can't fix because that's based on vBulletin there's a lot of stuff that's going around that we can fix that is kind of messed up the view bulletin has like okay we're using like different sizes for attachments and stuff the defaults for that are very weird and not what they actually say when it tells you like oh it has to be these dimensions at this size it's not actually those dimensions of that size so we are looking into problems that we can fix and hopefully vbulletin beta 24 is as nexium would say the holy grail of beta releases and hopefully it fixes everything but other than that the forum is working pretty okay the main problem we actually add was speed which is the reason why we did the relocation and we pulled it from here where it was running on a line that was 5 megabits per second up megabit maybe bit think you said megabytes per second I meant to say megabits per second to align ncx head office which I was hoping was gonna be 40 megabits per second up but is actually now that we got there 25 but that's still incredibly faster from what we have right now and will hopefully get above the bottleneck that we're currently sitting on it to be clear guys this isn't an NCIX forum this is a Linus tech tips dedicated forum they're just sponsoring us the bandwidth increase that we need for now we're hoping to move either to an off-site host somewhere or get some kind of like baller internet connection here which may may actually be an option I mean we can pick ourselves up a load balancing router for about a hundred and fifty bucks and then Shaw has a new service they're rolling out here that's going to be 15 megabit up we can pull two lines in so we might be able to do 25 to 30 megabit percent from here which would be that would be really cool sort of redonkulous I would like to have the server on site we're hardware guys so it's cool to be able to like actually manage the server here yeah but you have to do some key jiggering to be able to manage it off-site we should tell them about the config you have oh I know it's kind of ridiculous but so there's two servers right now there's two servers right now one of them's windows one of them's Linux we're trying to move everything over to the Linux box but then we couldn't like properly SSH into the Linux box so off next - oh man I spent ridiculous amounts of time today just trying to make it so that we could actually connect to the boxes on its axis Network because they have us behind like layers of networking so it's kind of odd trying to control things when I have no control over the routers of the switches so I'm just like calling up the networking guy every once in a while I'll be like hey I need this kind of changed so that was very interesting hey it's me again please do this please I mean access please and everything ended up being can I get a rig but is working and yeah well we're at CES I've got I've got one super moderator set up and I've got a few moderators set up everyone's kind of on a trial basis right now so watch those moderators let me know what you think of them make sure they're all doing Fairplay I think they're all really they seem like really good guys I like the moderator so far but we need to make sure that they're all actually really good guys so pay attention then but the only admin that's me running online so the only guy that's gonna be like controlling the back end of the site well we're at CES is gonna be nexium so good luck to you thanks man we appreciate it if it like actually if the computer power is down and doesn't like turn back on so like if it doesn't restart or anything like that and we're it's a yes we're kind of screwed because it's sitting in a room that so basically don't ddos us greatly appreciate don't like don't go to the NCIX head office and cut the power lines I mean you shouldn't do that these are things I shouldn't have to say so far everybody on the forum and everybody on Twitter and everything has been super helpful that's really nice reporting problems is great reporting stuff like it's slow like that's good that you told me but we know we know it's slow part of it is the five megabit connection we've been on part of it is the fact that V bulletin 5 is just kind of a dog yeah when we browse on it locally there's still that delay like when you click on a thread the page populates and then there's like one two three steamboats before you can actually click on something we can't stress enough the backend for the forum VB both and v is still in a pretty brutal stage of beta so there's a lot of stuff that we can't control one of the members of the vbulletin community was calling it was calling them some kind of a travesty that they're even calling this a beta yeah I needs like a pretty esteemed member of V building community max possible reputation points 30,000 posts like really big guy and he's raging it was like this is an alpha this is not a beta yeah and we're running it on production yeah so hang with us things will be fixed some of its out of our control and I'm going as fast as I can with nexium to fix everything else that is within our control all right so why don't we let's do some Twitter shall we oh okay the angles a little funny we actually don't have the we don't have a mount for the camera so it's sitting on a cardboard sheet on top of the actual tripod yeah I don't have the tools handy to remove the stupid mounting plate from the FS and we're trying to get this back up as soon as we possibly could so it's okay it's just not worth then use a quarter I don't have a quarter on me calm down all right so let's do some Q&A what's a good mechanical keyboard under 70 bucks toys they're not under 70 bucks you can find it was sometimes $69.99 I think I've seen a quick-fire like the 10 coolest ones $69.99 okay there you go if you can find it possibly somewhere ever yeah possibly some wherever I mean asking for mechanical keyboard under 70 bucks is me being like hey where can I get a good like uber gaming graphics card for under a hundred and fifty bucks it's like well sorry it just just doesn't work that way my jacket is ugly Matt asks my CPU is an FX 4100 it doesn't perform well in CPU heavy games well upgrading to an i-5 35 70k show me a noticeable difference the answer is yes especially once you're overclocking at 35 70 K will destroy an FX 4100 FX 4100 is basically okay think I'd think of it this way guys phantom one didn't actually really improve anything over previous but branding did they even use f1 64's I think before that phantom to improved very little over phantom 1 it was like an incremental lake like like a talk and then FX didn't really improve anything over Fenton - and then that's where you're at so you're basically running an Athlon 64 where as Intel has been marching along in terms of CPU performance 3570 cable just destroy a 4,100 editing post that comes in the next beta of people listen right supposedly but it was also in previous betas so this is what I was talking about about brutal beta stage is like features that used to be in it are not in it and features that were today before are in it like it's it's very much a beta and then our version of it like what we've changed the stuff is still also in beta so you're basically running the beta stage of a beta is what your form is so yeah we're doing good yeah thoughts on PC 360 I've heard it's a BC er version over 350 I'm not a big 350 fan okay so it's probably better than 350 I buy 7h probably I like them a lot more than 350 s have you tried this 360 I never tried but uh Harrison's got some oh okay yeah if they're like actually I like them for a headset I'm not usually way into headsets right I like headphones with a mic but for a headset they're pretty awesome yeah I built my first computer today how come you never told me the back of the motherboard was pokey um I didn't think of it you know what guys when you're building your first computer be careful of the metal on the outside of the power supply it can be cold we're teasing oh it's all good it's all good you did good good work building your first computer feel free to post a picture of it on face the picture and post the specs and when the forums up got a new build section and yeah poster build cuz that's awesome yeah have you ever built a hackintosh um that project is play kind of ready to go like I have the installer files on my USB Drive that I'm ready to install on the motherboard that we brought back to the back to the lab today so hopefully soon but not before we go to CES yes it's gonna be like Oh ridiculous all of our time before CES it was kind of devoted to like finishing off projects and me starting and hopefully finishing but that didn't happen the forum makes it happen it's not gonna be finished well it's never finished - Shaye's yeah but it's it's it's I hope the form comes to life see I'm getting kind of worried finish anything before that no and then even when we got back from CES for the first day or two we're probably gonna be just like managing stuff that we didn't get to release while we're su yes and we'll probably be sleeping cuz we'll probably be sick I don't sleep every year I get like just super sick people because you don't sleep there's a million people there from all corners of the world where they've got all kinds of weird diseases that I've never been exposed to and I was gonna say I've made it through pax every year but pax is a weekend not an entire week so this will be this will be a new challenge oh yeah CES is is a haul see it slicks ever been to CES this will be my fourth or fifth year now and it's it is it is people think it looks fun but it's not fun - Willie IPS makes a huge difference from a TN panel the answer is yes forum must be up because it's down it won't load for me too much traffic no no it's definitely down it's down like not because of too much traffic or it being broken we physically move to the server like we're doing this morning when you ran out of gas haha it just hasn't been a good day in general like the tech tips episodes the NCI expected episodes we filmed at at MCI xhq today one of them was like a build guide in an m-80 X machine that's actually within Silverstone's classification of small form-factor so this n ATX tower system is actually not much taller than an N ATX board like in the lone Vista yeah go get it go get it we'll show it to them I'll explain it in the meantime so it's not much taller than an M ATX board we put dual GTX 680 s in it we put a thousand watt power supply we put I think we changed it is it if you have it already oh here we go alright so it's in the sukkah in case and holy crap this is one of the most difficult machines I've ever built in spite of the fact that I did a full build guide on it in spite of the fact that I did a full build guide on it at the end of the video I had no choice but to say look guys I don't recommend this for novice builders so check this out it's not actually much bigger than a shuttle it's about the same length as a shuttle and it's about this much taller than a shuttle it's got a 120 millimeter intake in the front this is in the SGO 9 okay it's got okay one of the video cards is out now but it had dual 680 s in it see like I said the m ATX board goes from here to here so it's that bad gives you some idea of the scale here this is a 120mm fan not a 140 and I'm gonna see if I can get this this top panel off so entertain them with talk about what we're doing and see yes what are we gonna do they're gonna have lots of meetings we we've been so busy with other stuff stuff we haven't even discussed what we're gonna be doing at CES that much so I don't make animals don't even know I know we're gonna be spending not as much time as I expected on the show floor because we have a lot of different Suites to go do within the hotels which will be like a different vendor will have like a suite where they'll show off specific parts because the show floor isn't big enough and not personal enough well that and the show floor is extremely expensive and I don't think a lot of guys see the point yeah if they can just hold a suite and then get in contact with the exact people they want to anyways it's not really necessary worth it for them so yeah the plan is we've got a pretty epic internet connection hopefully so we'll be hopefully shooting out videos actively while we're there yeah we've noticed one problem with reviewers that go down to the CES is that they don't release their stuff until like way after and then it's usually pretty lackluster so our plan is to be uploading it as fast as we can every single night okay check this out sorry Stage two of showing you guys this machine so this case holds two three 1/2 inch hard drives here and here we have 2 SSDs and raid 0 down there that's 2m force right there you can put another two SSDs here if you want slimline optical drive in the top okay see that tower cooler in there this thing is full of stuff plugging in see I didn't look closely at the at the instructions silverstone includes for this case our TM guys our TM because and ok they also made a slight mistake because they show when you install the motherboard they showed the CPU heatsink installed on it that's wrong because a guitar would you have to install the motherboard install the 4 pin and then put the heatsink on but I was thinking maybe I could put it on before it settled a there's something like that so anyway I had a really hard time plugging the 4 pin in I ended up having to take the heatsink off again to plug it in and then and then I realized I forgot to plug in the CPU not cool not cool at all but here I want to give you guys a closer look at this I think it's on autofocus so you should be able to see so there's a silverstone duel tower heat pipe cooler there's some high profile memory in there this is a really cool cooler because it has one fixed side and one thin side so that you have enough room for all your memory slots good idea hey there's the power supply right at the front there with pass-through 2 cord at the back see you right there that's where that plugs in and then while you keep talking about CES plans I'm gonna take off the bottom part of the panel so you can see where the graphics cards go again ok if you commit things to them now then there's nothing I can do about it and we'll have to do your ideas so we're gonna be eating out very nicely the entire time we're there this is coming out of my pocket I was sponsored by the company No ok we'll probably be eating with all the inside um you'll be lucky if you get McDonald's now yeah Samsung has an interesting TV yeah I think they released this press room you're not number number number four you 23 you you know the audio is there audio still is their audio now you okay so we can't show huh yeah we can't fix now is it yep all right fixed it soggy everyone so back and foot okay tell them okay so as you can see there Samsung released this picture and then some blurb about how like true innovation comes when you like change the shape of things and all we got something along those lines basically this huge thing about how they're changing the shape of the TV and then they release this picture which makes me think like why why is it in portrait mode and that's not really a different shape either it smells a rotated shape you turn a bit like this like okay well they turn it vertically press one okay now they can see us again so I don't understand how this is different from taking an existing TV I'm just I like they have a driver control panel for that I think it's called you know the Nvidia control panel ATI control panel just turning monitor I don't know I'm kind of hoping it's more than just a portrait mode TVs because I don't see a portrait mode TV being very applicable maybe the point they're trying to make is the extreme realism of the image and like how thin it is or something it's an awful lot of hype to generate over but then the second you try and watch a movie is it gonna be like half your screen is gone no there's no way it's a portrait mode TV but look at the shape its in I know but you could just take that shape and go like this so what I need is good constant lease will be your TV no I mean it might just be thinner but then this is like I said this is a lot of height to generate over finishes shape and brighter and more vibrant and more 3d which is what probably what it is like it since I started going to CES it's been nothing but 3d TVs and here we are but three four years later and it's still 3d TVs and I'm just kind of like okay so last year the big thing was was 3d TVs but not using them for 3d it was like having cruise alternating images so that two people could watch TV and something else at the same time yeah or not split screen split screen PlayStation TV yes something like that has has okay here would love to hear this guys has anyone on Twitter or or in the twitch chat actually encountered someone who is actually using that solution are we local recording as well I don't know yeah press 0 yay okay oh yeah one of my old roommates where two people are playing the game at the same time seeing different oh look at that guy yeah oh okay yeah so I don't know if it really counts it was like black ops zombies that's exactly what it was black ops black ops fanboy but only the zombie mod I only knew that he did it once I don't know if he did it other than that and it was with like one of his buddies who also used to be a roommate of ours quite a while ago yeah check this out guys so I had two GeForce graphics cards in here two gtx 680 so they were going all the way to here there's the power supply there's the cpu heatsink you can put up to 32 gigs of ram in here just a monster monster machines check out that fan in the top just like almost hilariously stupidly full of stuff so anyway what I'm trying to say it's not that it's not a really cool case and not that it isn't a really cool machine but that it was really hard to build in and because when you film how to build a PC episode there's no such thing as like running some benchmarks and doing some prep before the episode like you can prep you can sort of you can read up on it you can sort of think you can bus around the things and see how it all works but you have to actually build it you have to actually do every step and some of them were just really hard yeah to do I was off in the corner with my crazy setup of multiple servers mess around with nexium hearing like oh we gonna redo that I gotta take motherboard out again oh I get here the amount of frustrated that was on the other side of the room you know what it wasn't as bad as the FTO three minute one know that once I was just a weird case it's very cool very good so again cuz it's a Colin yeah it's column case and again like an impressive amount of hardware you know small space yeah but but very dense at least the power supply was a lot easier on this one than it was on the FTO 3 because of the short cables because of the short cable can't that you can get with Strider series power supplies so I hear let's do some Twitter that where's the Twinkie box Twinkie box is slicks in the way right there alright - what tips you have for up-and-coming tech people read lots reading lots is the most important thing for up-and-coming tech people go on our forum when it's up yeah hey hey that's it gonna be lots of up-and-coming tech people here ah this is for slick so we're gonna get lucky with Tiger imports you go Tiger imports as a cm storm trigger with blue switches worth my money what's a storm trigger that was a big fire what's the difference between the two on a pretty sure you unbox the trigger I guess things are good they're quite good keywords okay yeah I didn't know yeah tuning in at 5:30 we're sorry we're late guys crazy problems watched the archives here move closer to the camera look at his eyes I'm pretty tired I had no idea why by Canon last time I hate Sony ever set it back to stock say trust me that won't fix the problem and we are using a CAD now which has this canon camera has its own set of issues as well oh yeah okay back to like 24 minutes ago so I saw a whole bunch of people posting that they had never seen anyone do the split screen monitor thing yeah I jumped over there while you're doing the system I'm like just everyone's like no no definitely not no definitely not okay here's a good question for Marcus um what do you expect from AMD ah yes expect I'm gonna go look for some of my topics that I had that I had up so I'll get you what do you expect from me ah yes yes I don't expect much I hope for a lot honestly 100% honest they haven't been moving that quickly lately over the last few years but they need to so hopefully if they come up with some crazy awesome stuff it - yes that would be great at 64 and then I've got one for my parents that was iPhone 64 x2 I loves both those processors they're amazing great great great processors and then yeah they do well on the graphics on the side though ATI is very strong AMD a8 C is very strong that you can usually get more frames for your dollar move on what I've seen going with AMD cards whether that makes you buy them out that's totally up to you but yeah usually you can you can pump them really hard you can usually over cock them like crazy yeah I don't know but I worried about the processor side very worried about the processor side but then again they could come up with something crazy so hopefully they do that'll be great it's a yes I mean I'd love to see how the whole I mean okay we we talked a little bit about the Nvidia intel potential merger the rumor just a rumor guys right now but we talked a little bit about what that could mean for the future maybe not particularly on mobile when you look at Intel's expertise on manufacturing and videos expertise on GPU and their experience with arm and just like what kind of crazy process we could see I would love to see I mean they've talked about how they're gonna focus more on it and I know she was his name I can't remember one of their CEOs got got outed not that long ago because he said he didn't care about mobile and it seems like something they do want to do but I'd love to see what AMD an ATI could deliver because the only reason that Tygra has any huge advantage over anything is that GeForce ecosystem and I'm not even talking just the graphics performance of it because it's not that competitive compared to something like iPad weight not today or even or or even some of the other solutions but the GeForce ecosystem is the developer relationships it is the the way that they're used to writing games that are powered by GeForce compatibility developer always working the fact that a tiger 3 runs pretty much the same damn way as a GTX 680 on some level just the way that the software and the hardware are interfacing and the way that the game interacts with it so that is why Tegra is so important right now whereas AMD maybe not quite to the same extent as in video in terms of developer relationships but so much stronger than Qualcomm yeah or Intel or maybe named anyone else it's a two horse race ATI Nvidia radio and GeForce so I'd love for them to just kind of show up to that fight and start doing something somewhere somewhere something something interesting we're talking about gravis Kurt's far cry 3 really surprised me with how hard it was to run I don't think - is plenty yet but you were big fan of far cry too weren't you I know right it was terrible I thought you liked far cry 2 it was a piece of crap I thought you said you played it a whole bunch times I'm far cry 1 loves far cry 1 far cry 1 out and ingame did you ever play it you're a little young for that yeah what were you like nine when it came out I don't think so I'm pretty sure cuz I look maybe like eleven yeah you were like a kid anyways yeah fuck I was girl fuck I too was crap the responding guys all that stuff was crap I okay you know what though I forgot about this is a good story far cry 2 I actually played it a fair bit cuz I hadn't really played like I'd never played Grand Theft Auto or like any other sort of open-world sandbox II right okay yeah so I'd never really done that a little battle thing and the graphics were great and you know the gunplay is good and all of that I couldn't finish it I got a save game like all the way deep into the game and did you play Far Cry 2 yeah but really really quickly in once ok one of the things is that you're sick do you remember that yeah okay you get sick so you have to get like malaria medications like sometimes and what happens is it gives you like a notification that you need to get malaria meds like soon and so one of my save games and I I think it was Otto is it autosave for that game or something like that oh I was doing physically too far away to get anywhere with meds I tried probably a dozen times in every direction in every possible way so I would just die and I was like well I'm not starting over cuz the whole game is just a grind my best three with that is morrowind you start the game and they give you this package and you're supposed to go give it to this guy but it's just like oh yeah I give this package of this guy and you can sell it so with the beating the game you're like oh I want money you sell everything in your inventory you're done you can't start the main quest but it doesn't exactly tell you what the main quest is cuz it's a like uber definition of sandbox game right like amazing game but you could just go screw off like I played this game for months and had no idea what the main quest was had never started it I multiple characters always sold the book her package thing eventually eventually my dad and I were like this ski was amazing but we know we're missing a lot let's go get the players guide so we can find all the stuff that we're missing while the players guy was like whoa there's a main class and it's interesting but I don't absolutely start playing the game that is so much worse than mine it's not even funny I love like so many hours in that game but without even actually playing the game without playing the main quest but that's how good that game was like it didn't matter I never got into it I think it doesn't help though that I'd already logged like a bajillion hours on oblivion and then you kind of have to go through cuz I never played Marling the journal system in Morrowind is very difficult to just pick up you gotta be used to it and like once you get I think it's the tribunal expansion it makes it so you can actually navigate to individual quests in your journal but before then it's just your guy writing logs about things that's happening and it's just like a journal so if something happened a couple days ago and you've done a whole bunch of stuff to figure out why you're out of that quest yeah if I flip through pages and like figure it out like it's not very new friendly and I like I like I fired it up once and I got my character and that's gonna be like cat dude and yeah I went like down the path it was just like I was like well come on what there's no like there's no like noob friendly like questing zone at the beginning a little bit but not that much they say can you snap like a little bit better why you're done now like it's got D&D rolling systems for attacks so if you run up something you can be like I'm not hitting you cuz you'll just keep on rolling and if you're not good enough at that skill so like say dagger I can just stab and stab and stab this happens to have and never hit over like ha ha ha ha ha my defence numbers are higher than your dagger rolling numbers I then win because of the DD system right so it's it's not very new friendly in that aspect right ok well I had a topic for discussion why does Nero bother to still update their disk burning software we talked about this a bit ago the only thing I was able to come up with was compatibility with different systems okay let me put it this way it's the highest I have an ancient version of Europe that I bought way back like early XP days back when you bought burning software because now there's free okay so okay so aside from the fact that it doesn't need any new functionality there's free options that are just as good now is that so that may be the thing then they roll out a new version make you buy the new version make you buy the new version Holly don't make you buy it that same version runs on Windows 8 just know I know I know but like like no character you have version 4 to get version 5 I'm just using Y right into my own version 5 I'm just saying if you had version 4 to get versified you have to buy it or does it update I think you have to buy it yeah yeah okay so it's for people that are super tech savvy near the goal I need the newest best one what could they possibly think they need the newest best one for that huh like that Allah says keep your stuff updated okay why don't they just do this then why don't they just lay off their entire development team and just change numbers just change the numbers and change my skin it hire some designers to be skinny hire one designer for your attire like what I don't know what nationality is there in disk burning over the last six years LightScribe let's go em disk and this doesn't require some special softness that all done through though ginger all done through the special laser that engraves into the special medium nothing on the software side and so that's just the droid yeah so LightScribe and LightScribe did the same on the software end okay it's possible we need a blu-ray software blu-ray 'very who would burn a blu-ray I've just see why there might be something for all of you out there who have burned a blu-ray I'm gonna open your eyes to a fantastic world of amazingness that you are just gonna be blown away by it is called the archiving your stuff on a hard drive system so blu-ray discs how much do they cost now I don't know I've never bought one last time I looked at was around eight bucks but I'm sure it's cheaper now let's say there let's say they're three dollars just for the sake of argument let's say there are three dollars how many gigs of data do they store it's twenty five one's gonna cook this yeah but then you can get these dual layers yeah but those cost a lot I'm sure they do those are actually like baller expensive yeah so okay so 25 gigs on a blu-ray so here this is this is we're gonna do a quick price comparison here so NCIX down we're gonna look at how much a two terabyte external drive costs so do not do not do not do around a hundred bucks okay so that is two thousand divided by 25 25 equals eighty blu-ray discs blu-ray it already loses whoa hold on there we go so single blu-ray disc so that's a 50 gig for seven bucks okay so that's a rewritable for ten by the way hard drives are all rewritable okay probably more than your rewritable disc okay I can't even see there's a 2-pack for 30 bucks much do these things these can't be right seriously okay this is worse than I thought okay so four okay so okay so you can get them for as little as around a buck but that's like Rosewill so anything that's like a real a real brand it's probably more like more like double that so about about two bucks each so $160 yeah so 160 bucks is what you're paying for your blu-ray discs oh man guys just don't do it I mean something like this is so perfect these backup buses are great because they come on a little like dock thing here's a tech tip for you guys back everything up to hard drives so they come on a little dock thing and then look at this it's basically like the size of like a VHS cassette so you just have a shelf you like put these on it you put a little label on the handy dandy label friendly spot with some masking tape boom you've archived your media on something that is less likely to degrade then then a plastic disc on something that is much more much much more likely to still be around in the future in terms of finding something that'll read it easily although CDs been pretty resilient but then how useful is a CD at this point you can repurpose it for other things you can take the whole thing apart repurpose it for an internal drive throw it in a server you can easily swap them in and out just by popping them on to a base station just like that so and you can plug as many or as few into your computer as you want you can sync from one to another one so you can backup from one to another they're faster to write you ever even need to do this the only disk solution that I would ever see being better than that is like super super super important documents that you write to them discs yeah and it's got a ton of sold on em disc is kind of amazing but then the capacities aren't that high yeah so use like backup hard drives like just lectures everything and then yeah like hard drives for like movies and yeah everything else and disc is like precious family photos are like your will baby pictures wedding pictures are very important things yeah super important documents like you said will stuff like that bothered match backup hard drives don't bring blu-rays and like people think of it in terms of the transactional price I think sometimes because I've had people make the DVD archiving argument they're like oh well DVDs only a couple cents I'm like okay it only holds four gigs so you've got like and how much is your time work don't want to sit there burning like like you said 80 blu-rays and then it's not even it's not even easy to like figure out what you've now written to disk and which discus cuz okay think about it this way if you're like wedding video part 1 2 3 did you burn them in chronological order did you burn them in alphabetical order did you burn like the pictures of the hot bridesmaids on the one over there your wife wouldn't see it like I don't know she watching this I mean it's tech stuff like okay here's another one why do you why do you bother why do you bother updating a phone like notepad app why do you bother writing a special note pad app let's talk about slicks phone because he loves his phone so huggy much tell me about S note hey I have a perfect note app though tell me all about S note I want to give out s note s why did Samsung write a notepad application what did Samsung write any of the applications on that phone be nice okay you've tried to use s note for what a couple weeks yeah I was okay so oh did you know that the memo pad that comes on the iPhone works really well just text input well that's what I want it okay to be honest okay why did you start using s note here we go so I'm using a scope for the livestreams if you guys see me or alliance when we're all the streams forever looking at our phones it's because we have certain people watching the audience there's certain people that are in the audience that have our phone numbers that will text us if things are going wrong like audio Li yeah okay I do yeah your friends don't care as much but I don't have any friends that's the idea that's unfortunate anyways text me if there's audio problems that's why I jump up sometimes I'll hear my phone buzz and then just like dart over and see if one of our buddies is texting me saying there's an audio problem or something um and because we keep our notes there I'm looking at pictures of the baby that got sent to me throughout the day he's eating green beans it's pretty cute sorry carry on we keep our notes there for the last room so we shouldn't think of topics so I was trying to use s note man that was frustrating uh if I did like the slightest thing wrong so we'd like go to a different tab with an S note or anything like if I clicked on anything that wasn't proper it would move away from the stuff that I was currently typing you just delete everything oh my god so like we'd be on a really long car ride somewhere and I'd be like documenting all this stuff we're thinking of it like googling up topics that we can hopefully talk about the last few is it boring as all hell and then I've got a whole bunch of stuff and I walk out of the car and like just sleep my phone and put it in my pocket go on open up later it's just like whoa nope all your lines are removed the app is still open but all your lines are removed I'm just like why so I ended up downloading some random happen don't even what it's called it's called like simple note or something so there's just a white screen and like a list of the documents that you have and you just like click on them and then it brings up just a white screen again and then you can just like type wherever you want it's like that's exactly what I wanted all I wanted was a mirror of the notepad app for PC and so that's all I wanted but they had to add all this additional functionality which barely works and then the whole app barely works because everything else barely works we have to do our Windows 8 giveaway so you had a question that you wanted to use as our trivia so I'm gonna brief them on who's sponsoring the giveaway in the meantime while you go remember what it was okay one second okay so guys the the Windows 8 giveaway is sponsored by Timmy Tech TV so we're gonna go ahead and go to Timmy Tech TVs YouTube channel and I'm going to try to frickin get this going 9 youtube.com slash I can't find the slash on this keyboard I've had a lot of people ask me what keyboard this is and it's some SEO one I actually don't remember it's KB 1 7 8 RT KB 1 7 8 RT it's not perfect by any stretch of the imagination but it works and it kind of gets the job done and we really know I don't want to stay on this page go away what is this oh man British Columbia mom makes 7,000 dollars a month and you won't believe how she does it and it's not letting me leave there we go leave not sponsored by that sorry for that guys Timmy tech TV there we go Timmy tech TV channel so he has sponsored us for copies of um look at that he featured my channels on his channel that was nice of him uh he's he's sponsored me for copies of Windows 8 to give away on the next four livestream so oh another thing guys there won't be a live stream next week because next week we will be in Vegas if we manage to stream something on Friday and oh no no by Friday night will be on a plane slick yeah not gonna happen we can't do it we can't do a live stream over there yeah that's not feasible he's giving me that look like he really want he really wants to live stream well when everybody back I'm sorry back oh we're not live streaming the night we get back from CES if I can get everything set up I'll drag him into a chair but there's no promises I might be I might look like this in the chair so anyway have you have you managed to figure this out yet okay okay guys so the first one to tweet the correct answer a hundred percent letter for letter perfectly the correct answer to slicks question here is the winner so I'm gonna go ahead and we're gonna fire up Twitter and here we go slick comeback ask your question how do you watch a ski Star Wars in Windows and we're looking for like the legit way to do it not like going on YouTube and searching for a ski Star Wars yeah like how do you like how do you do it you can do this offline like how do you like the whole thing it's it's seriously okay let's see so the first one the first one oh hold on we have at least one correct answer there once you can actually you have to be all mine okay you have to be alright fine but like that's not the point now there's no where I'm trying to prove like you don't have to open up browser okay here we go so Wow BAM Kevin knew the answer I did not think that would be that easy okay Kevin I am going to follow you on twitter so that you can private message me private message me you are getting a free copy of Windows 8 congratulations Timmy TAC TV is gonna send that to you and you should be super thrilled because it doesn't work in Windows 8 as well apparently alright so you can go watch your ASCII Star Wars and your brand-new copy of Windows 8 thanks guys for participating and I hope you found it to be a little bit more organized this week compared to last last week was a disaster did you watch it I ended up watching yeah it was terrible I just I don't blame you though but like it was bad I look ok that's why I tried to pick something more structured you knew what a long day I'd had that day already plus I think you have a better understanding now of how much I'm able to sleep at night between my cat and my baby it is a miracle that I get any rest at all let's hope that the forum but yeah yeah yes he'll perform indeed ok here we go sound carton headset for 7.1 gaming first of all get a proper bed phone or headset with two speakers in it agreed yep 100% agreed find some sound card that does some cheese ball surround effect if you really want that it will be better it will honestly sound better I have owned both and actual 7.1 doesn't sound as good as really good high quality headphones what's up my dream surround software trickery is where it's at guys remember guys two ears two speakers is all you need and I know that question was Google but pretty much any question that we're gonna be able to come up with is gonna be Google and the people that answered we're really clear yeah they were fast enough that they probably knew they'd probably just knew it and you'll always be at an advantage if you actually know the answer which is which is great guys actually Oh have you done have you seen that virtual haircut thing no no okay mandatory mandatory assignment here guys everyone needs to after the livestream of course you need to stay and watch s first search for virtual barbershop this is I recognize this may be I have this is all the evidence you need there it is use headphones close your eyes and you base oh yeah I have heard of this yes definitely it sounds like you're getting a haircut if you needed evidence that you only have two ears and you only need two speakers that is it so there you go if you're in a home theater setting 7.1 is awesome when when the speakers are directly covering your entire ear it's it's so cool though have you tried it oh yeah definitely I thought you were talking no no no I didn't know your topic no it's so friggin cool yeah the best thing ever you should definitely go watch it all right what do we got and that's das also apparently it works in ms-dos as well yeah it works in like tons of stuff I think it might work in Linux as well okay dude dude dude we have one guy who answered star wars well I guess that would be a way to watch Star Wars in Windows very carefully yeah offline mode in Safari apparently I don't know how many people install Safari on their Windows machines no yeah I do download on iTunes and play through QuickTime Justin you're fired I like it though buy a CD it wasn't the point guys these guys are like trying to legit answers like the question and it's like no no it's a it's a trick it's like a trick question I didn't want to say it was a command-line input yeah cuz that's like yeah that's too obvious yeah cuz you gonna say like I wanted the Google search to be at least not 100% straightforward by getting a job and buying it yes the extreme computing you are the winner of tonight's live stream you don't get a copy of Windows but you get our respect all the internet cookies OMG slick is so high and I think Julie isn't the only girl who actually thinks so okay moving on ahh Oh big Nvidia announcement see yes okay I'm kind of curious about this Deacon usually tweets pretty good stuff live from Las Vegas how to tune into in videos news oh we're missing this we're not gonna be there in time so what Evers yeah we're going down on the way let's Sunday no it's during the day Sunday we don't arrive till Sunday night so yeah we're missing we're missing it there's like a live show it's like a big event I have no idea what they're what they're talking about but it should be should be pretty cool maybe it's the things to me I don't know it's probably a lot bigger than that yeah the GeForce experience is cool but I don't think this is probably longer than that yeah they're making like a really big deal out of this what case 300 ro or 692 events that's a 600 are cuz I meant to say 300 are yeah I saw that uh I feel 300 I probably would just the more modern feature set just is a good thing I've built in the 300 armoire yeah which gives it kind of an unfair advantage because I kind of know it I only did a 692 advance build a long time ago but it's a good case I haven't built in one of Justino really yeah no it's really good like it's easy to build in everything's really intuitive coolermaster does such a good job of that no I know I know just I've built in the 300 are a lot I haven't built from the other one so that's why I didn't actually ever give a suggestion but I kind of would just lean towards that one because that's only when I have personal experience with slick looks familiar hey you could easily be out like a mesh between these two guys and this one well yes I might need a touch-up before we go as well but I was okay yeah that's my roommate I'm like I was planning to get a haircut literally like three months ago I'm just never Chris Barry wins all the Internet's we have to take the Internet's away from whoever won it last time because that is the most creative spelling of Wednesday I have ever seen it is even a space it's not capitalized like let's try to find how many things are wrong with this it's not capitalized there's a space there's a space the the diamond the D and the N are reversed there's a missing there's a missing E okay it has like Phoenician marks the sentence isn't capitalized you don't need a like there okay yo Chris we love you man I have blitz bit casas infinite drive I'm not familiar with that unfortunately maybe we should look into that after sure blu-ray burners for giving out there's huge amounts of data without giving them a whole hard drive and BD XL is 125 games okay but how much does it be the XL cost so that still holds with sort of what we're saying and if I ever give people huge amounts of data it's usually not like here archived is either like here take this really quickly and I would use nayad I was going yeah I would use a flash drive man Oh use a flash drive or I would like FTP it to them or I would use a Dropbox so for the cost of your blu-ray discs to match that to terabyte capacity you could buy your two terabyte hard drive and a big fat USB drive and rewritable again yeah but then you could get like a baller one like this that's impossible to destroy survivor style win they're pretty epic yeah like I I understand he's trying to play that was advocating he's trying to like spur the conversation but I just still don't think it's feasible what's some in her name do you play and what region do you plan on shout out to Henry Pham yeah I back up my wii and ps2 games on you okay yes you can back up your games on that's a legitimate reason to have lost sort of legitimate reason to have a bird here he's actually doing it hey look at the color changes when I switched these it's better on this one see how yellow we look cuz you can have different settings in the seats I know but I think I must have messed up seen one well we were in kind of a hurry in my defense yeah I want to replace my to see this is the problem that I have with the case guys who don't use standard fan sizes and I mean I know 200 mil and 160 ml and 180 ml and 2/3 year they're all kind of standard fan sizes but I mean by standard like someone actually makes replacement fans for it yeah I'm BitFenix is doing a good job of supporting the fan sizes that they generate and BitFenix fans look really cool they're one of the only brands they play for them okay yeah no I know they're Prell kamee pros are good fans I'm not saying they don't just like a lot of people like how love noctua fans but look at them and then put one beside a big Phoenix fan and just like get a thirteen-year-old kid to pick which one he thinks is cool okay like the BitFenix fans look awesome by that lot okay so what I should make all the decisions in my life based on what 13 year olds think are cool do you have any of those in your system they're like your favorite fans do you have any of them in your system No but they're the best come on you know that come on why am I thinking you just burned me I shouldn't be acknowledging at all they just look at roches and like okay do you have okay fine I will put an F F 12 in the basement of my TJ o 7 in the basement it's keyword actually I won't bear okay okay okay fine here let me put it this way then yeah I was building it mmm I was gonna say if I was building a machine that had a closed side panel I'd use them but my wife's machine does not use not to us I have I have it aspects with not to us on it that's the point of the test page though isn't it to perform really well no to report back sounds and stuff for fans you're using a consolidated fan format no no not that ones no no the other test bench power supply oh we don't reduce that one we do sometimes it has P twelves on it we use that we used it for months we used that test bench almost explicit for month because no not almost exclusively because I needed another test bench and you said here's a bunch of hardware bill deployment I grabbed those fans no I changed no no you don't remember because I changed them out when I was trying to do acoustic testing on video cards I needed fans that could run near-silent on the actual CPU cooler itself so that I could take sound readings from the video card on an overclocked CPU system without the CPU fans ramping up like crazy they are the best fans but you didn't care about the look of it because it was on a performance based test bench but if it was a choice between these and ones that didn't perform well at all I would go with source yeah nope I I love not to a fans I just can't bring myself to install an oi system because there are but a p120 ones I like they look great before 90% is good gentle typhoons you could argue as good but I wouldn't run them at those kinds of rpms so I would take a knock to over gentle typhoons to be perfectly honest gentle sigh dudes don't look that great but I think they look better than gelid wings aren't that great but they're pretty good and they look really look really good movie UV blue and my system is like awesome ok there was someone I promised to do I there was someone I promised to do a shout-out to this week and I gotta go I gotta go check I don't know what to do Q name I forget how to do it ah noobs can play shout out shout out to noobs can play peace bro when I cooked we're not going to talk about problems with the search function on NC X's website mine it says have you heard about vortex bass video no no I've never heard of this I use my iphone notes bad notes app all the time that's one thing I do have a problem with is the Notes app on iOS products is kind of awesome and I have a lot of problems with the one on my Android but then like I said I downloaded a new one which is an awesome thing about Android and then it totally solved the problem okay we have another Samsung topic to discuss the evolution kit you mentioned this but so did you two so this is this is some CES news they first unveiled this last year so the evolution kit get this this face should give you some idea how stupid I think this is oh it's already kind of like the evolution kit allows you to take your 2012 model Smart TV and buy a pack to the back of it to meet the ongoing you know memory and processing power requirements of Smart TVs and the media and everything that you can upgrade your 2012 Smart TV to the 2013 version by putting this pack on the back I feel like if I was in the store I would buy it just so you would go so you get the latest suite of applications you get why do you need a pack for applications well this is the first question that I was sort of thinking okay continue sorry well I guess actually no my first question is why do you need a smart TV at all why don't you buy a pillow say Oh sin and hook it up to your TV unlike any older firmware updates are free Oh 100% and I've heard a lot of problems with the gestures okay do you remember that Samsung all-in-one that we had an unboxing of yeah I tried to demo the gesture thing I didn't get a single bit of usable footage it just doesn't work and the gestures on the TV at the keynote at the Samsung Canada thing the guy on stage was trying to demo it and it didn't work at all gestures are going to be incredible when they work really well here's the thing to actually build in the hardware that would be required to properly map the human body in any kind of remotely reasonable real time and I'm not talking connect with like you know a half second delay okay it's not a half second but with it with any kind of lag or any kind of ambiguity as to what you're doing for it to actually work perfectly so that it can recognize you whether you're standing like this or whether you're like you know on the couch like this but I mean it would basically need a computer in it and like there's a lot of little companies and some bigger companies making some really interesting hand gesture mat programs for computer and stuff but there's still tons of problems with them tons of problems I mean the closest I think will be is like a glove have you seen have you seen that like weird crazy multi-coloured glove I know I haven't seen my camera what they're cold but it looks like you like spilled a whole much different colored paints on a glove okay and they wear them and the gestures you can do with them are insanely accurate okay see something like that could work and guys please for the love of peanuts stop asking us if we heard about the leap motion yes we have heard about the leap motion it's cool it is not out yet I cannot unbox it yet I have been in touch with them we're gonna arrange to get something going once they actually have units that they can ship but yeah I'm super excited about it I think this could be bridging the gap between the touchscreen interface and the totally not touchscreen you know for those folks who don't want to touch their screen for folks who are too far away from their monitor and this is uncomfortable they could still come up and go like this if it works been like awesome it should be really cool otherwise you know we'll all forget about it at some point apparently s note is really good on the note 2 because of s-pen support that's kind of cool to hear but doesn't help all the incredible amount of s3 or easin which by the way is more than any other smartphone ever BAM so like that's awesome and I'm happy it works good for you and s-pen is pretty cool but like there was ability you know that's what I was trying to just pick a really big number do you think it's the transparent Oh Ellie do you display they were showing a while back no cuz if they've shown it before I kind of doubt it yeah because they're talking about like whole new design and like shape of the TV and stuff so unless they took of that and shaped it differently I am building an X 79 rig now and slick runs a z77 rig now so I guess both of us will be waiting for the next chipset before we make any upgrades I use Blu ray for backing up my blu-ray movies no you should use a hard drive for black backing up your blu-ray movies ok sorry if you tweet that many times I'm gonna have to skip oh yes we are gonna have an X for you next 16 a review comparison and conclusion we haven't had time we're going to use the standardized test bench I'm actually gonna have to do some fancy dribbling to make the X 60 fit in it but that's okay we're gonna do it so yeah we will do that but it'll be once we get back from CES yeah Nick I am very sorry if I'm pronouncing your name wrong yeah Nick can you oh okay so I don't know probably not for an incredibly long time but if you're interested in that kind of stuff Google up oculus rift it's the closest thing we may be getting in the near future they're awesome look it up can you order them are you talking about which which one easily dies sorry you those are totally totally different things in every possible way no I wouldn't really recommend a GT 640 anything under a hundred bucks for a graphics card is not a good value and I don't mean it's not cheap it is cheap but it's not a good value because value is I I think of in terms of frames per second per dollar I actually got someone giving me a really hard time on on Twitter because I wouldn't recommend the GT or a GTX 650 to someone and I was like GTX 650 is not a good value I said I and they're like oh Lavina it's not everyone you know blah blah blah can get the best card and you guys are so focused on gtx 660ti is a succes well no actually it's you can get a 650 TI but the difference in performance between a 650 and a 650 Ti is like this and the difference in price is like this value is FPS per dollars not just dollars so a 640 is never a good value because it costs like 80% of what something way better costs but will perform like half as well so it's a terrible terrible value never buy entry-level video cards you got to look into the price for performance yeah curves and like if you're behind like a card like that it's gonna be obsolete so quick yeah do you know where I can buy modded cases I don't know I mod them myself by dremel and some like panels from Home Depot or wherever you buy okay Home Depot stuff well I think that wraps it up for now thank you guys for tuning in to our shortened livestream hopefully two weeks from now when we do the next livestream you guys will be to tune in on time because we'll be like ready and I'm sure we'll have tons more topics it's fun I had lately because everyone's just kind of calm before the storm ring because I see yes yeah so we're gonna have way way too much stuff to talk about yeah instead of just like right now if I do like it deluxe like longer livestream or something maybe we'll talk about it in the in the cool-down from CES we'll plan low like one like a debriefing maybe we do like a three or five hour livestream or something like that as long as we get a huge list of comments I mean topics and people are willing to come around I'm cool with it yeah okay all right good night guys thanks for tuning in