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okay guys so I did say we were gonna be five minutes late today and we were only five minutes late today I'm pretty sure the audio is working I hope the audio is working if the audio is not working I will actually cry like I will I will cry we're gonna check the twitch chat to make sure the audio is working welcome everyone to the live lioness tech tip show we are here for all of your enjoyment and of course our own enjoyment because slick loves nothing more after he has spent the day filming with me than to what yeah alright it's flickering flicker on the screen I don't know our feed looks okay it's flickering whatever okay so we have another chance to eat dinner yet tonight I hope you guys forgive us for being a little bit slow kind of getting into the show probably the most important cake I've ever had a chance to met this morning so I had to be at work early probably I had to wear a dress shirt just about this no dress pants shiny shoes the funny thing too is I I wore my sandals I was like guys and I dressed up for you Incline wore a dress shirt today we were like and yeah we're watching it okay we're good now right guys let's get that twitch chat going again cuz you guys you guys are you guys are fast to help us get that fixed alright yeah okay so the kind of things that we should have to sort of you know done by now but okay to give you guys some idea what do you think the speed I averaged on the way back here from Richmond to us mm-hmm no cops watching right I don't even know like just ridiculous we made it all the way from them t IX headquarters in Richmond Sports moves in like 29 minutes to my house which is trust me not a good thing anyway so right sorry slick always has dinner he ate separately that time so nice don't worry about it ah right so my meeting today was with like the most important person ever who is like like a global director of marketing for Samsung SSDs or something like that like just like crazy crazy stuff so I wear shiny shoes I had like a shirt and like pants and a belt and like I did my hair today but you can't really tell anymore cuz total mess but yeah so that was really exciting spent like two and a half hours and that meeting just you know marketing strategies and stuff for those of you watching the livestream who don't know I'm a product manager at NCIX so that's like my real job I don't remember where I was going with this you're just talking oh yeah it's been a long day I had to go in early because it's someone like that and they're making time like they flew from Korea right right so he's like making time to like get on a plane from Korea and come here and come to our office and talk to me so it's like if I won't go in like you know half an hour or an hour early to work then that's like the rudest thing ever so I'm like yeah yeah yeah no no no problem and then so I was at work at sort of 9:30 ish today which means that by the time we're done this livestream it'll have been like a 13 hour workday which is sort of sweet we filmed a really cool episode today though maybe slick can tell you about it while I try and take a couple bites of food we built a computer in the FTO 3 mini and that's a pretty sick case actually so most of our stone cases are pretty epic but for a small case this computer's really cool we fit we fit a 670 in it and for its size if you like actually go and look at a picture of it for its size that's ridiculously impressive so that was a really fun build Oh what else we get we did a lot of unboxings no I'm in the crash in the case what's the name of that the we put the little Asus ITX deluxe board but I don't remember its actual name z77 I I just I deluxe okay you know the asus speeds ozone i deluxe 3570 k although we could have used 3770k we just had a 35 70 K SSD course crucial M for low temps you guys for like what were they like for the CPU is around 28 no no I don't I don't was 28 yeah Oh low temps low the cups I think we're around 50 degrees yeah and then on the GPU is like 70 degrees like totally normal temps one fan in the system because we put a water cooling and water cooler in there well there was there was the air penetrator and then there was the fan that came with the water cooler mm-hmm you didn't put the fan with no you're not supposed to oh there's no room for it okay you used the air penetrator at the bottom of the case and then even though it doesn't quite aligned with the radiator it's very directed airflow so it was right through the radiator anyway the case yeah I thought it just was like basically starting who's asking if Roseville is a good case manufacturer on the twitch chat like come on guys Rose well how is Roseville a manufacturer of anything these rows will a good case manufacturer and why is the there all this stuff I don't know what's going on here I'll have to fix that later um yeah Roseville doesn't make anything Roseville is new eggs like like no name brand so it's like whatever OEM stuff and then they put Roseville on it so there you go that's me film today Oh like I said a lot of unboxings for NC I expected I don't really remember was it just the FTO 3 I think that was it I think we were gonna try and do H 100 versus H 100 I versus we started that that's why we unboxed the hei all right all right the thermal right Silver Arrow was it extreme I think though yeah thermal radiate a Silver Arrow extreme which looks amazing the fans look a little weird but it looks yeah it looks amazing well it's a color screen with those fans red and is like red borderline pink and then for the like casing of the fan and then like bright fluorescent orange for the blades just a little bit a little bit out there a little big scream I guess it definitely extreme definitely extreme definitely extreme um and then I worked on the gauntlet known episode but we weren't done that had some problems with Wireless not let the mountain is wired but no excuse me no seven nature V - that's not even if someone says I know far too little about the business it seems I'm not sure what business he's talking about but it's been my entire job for like five years so I think I know something mm-hmm okay my hands quite a bit better I still can't close it that's all I can do for trying to close my hand but it works down so that's good okay so why don't we do a couple Twitter questions we've got some pretty good discussion topics for tonight we're just like really hungry so sorry all right let's head over to Twitter let's see if there's no work that gonna work yes that's not even the right why did we have it oh I remember okay yeah because the last time we use this we were doing like a totally totally totally different thing and it was not not Twitter and there we go so now we have Twitter and you guys can enjoy that with us and I have my phone is going bananas like just absolutely bananas because of all the all the tweets that are that is experiencing right now there we go all right so question number one from Paul f could you beat up slick do you think a slick could be a Seuss's JJ in a straight-up fistfight I would like to hear slick steak on this I don't really I've seen JJ like twice I don't think more in terms of like does he have the mental toughness think like a fighter haha I don't know I don't know JJ I can't just say I'd be able to beat some guy if I don't even know I think you'd have the endurance he would I think he would have the endurance advantage because you're look at how long JJ can talk about the least interesting possible aspect of an asus motherboard like I swear like 45 minutes on like wonderful feature I think you just have to keep hitting the guy he'd be like was that fighter that would just let you hit him until you retired you many know if you I don't like I can't remember Kara's name but like that guy you think he's like that style please I think he's that style fighter because I think that like his enthusiasm level for like what he's doing like okay if he wasn't interested in the fight I think he could take you or I think you could take him but if he was like passionate about like like destroying you I think he would just like just I think he take it what might take like an hour or three yeah like a three-hour fight like if it was done in rounds and there was like a I think you could get him okay next next Twitter question for the night what are your thoughts on the hybrid fluid dynamic VGA coolers honestly I don't think I've heard of those hybrid fluid dynamic peachy colors I haven't found any that I'm like what I think they're basically like choc at the camera though okay I haven't seen one in a really long time but if I remember correctly they're kind of like eight 100 hae that like like clothes like watercolor style but it works for your VGA oh you can see why I'm not oh yeah those are Dumber yeah yeah those are those are really expensive and they perform better than obviously they perform better than an air cooler on a graphics card I mean the graphics card form factors like PCI cards were never intended to be like double triple wide and have plate coolers on them it was never never suppose I'm just gonna turn my phone off because the the tweets are driving me absolutely crazy there we go phone because something right because they were never designed to have coolers in that kind of a sort of space like coolers are supposed to blow fan air towards something not like downed at its surface and then sort of toward the back of it doesn't make sense doesn't work that way so so yeah they'd obviously be better but you have a couple of drawbacks so number one is that tubing wise you have to have long tubing to get that that cooler to somewhere in your case that makes sense unless you have and it's pretty much always going like yeah that's coming from the bottom leg upstream yeah so it'll be like a totem that's that way then I mean personally the graphics card isn't priority number one for me for water cooling so then you don't have room to mount your CPU radiator plus yeah they're just they're expensive they don't have a wide compatibility they only work with one card ever usually for the pricing that I've seen I would much rather just do my own loop yes that's right phone so I don't really see them applicable that's why I've never really been interested in because in all situations your own loop is awesome but sometimes it's not worth the cost then if you're gonna spend the cost on something like that you might as well but you're just gonna throw away when you're done with that yeah when you can just buy a new block for a loop and then they're like if you get a new JavaScript all right moving along you know our Twitter questions here let's see what else we got Wilson asks how do you pronounce a soos all right so hey soos yeah hey soos ESU's as long as it's sous-sous like dr. Seuss not likes us or not like Pegasus so a lot of people have made the argument to me on Twitter because I posted a video made by made by Zeus where they it's like a really cute little thing where like two girls go up to like two guys at a bar and they're like hey do you want to see our asses we love asses something like that and then do you want to see them and the guys are like yeah and they pull out notebooks and their ACS notebooks so the guys are like oh you mean a soos and the girls are like oh yeah yeah so it's funny because it's a soos is subtle way of telling people stop pronouncing the name of our company wrong just the song stop doing it and I had a bunch of people still arguing with me on Twitter no no it's it's a sassy Asus Asus Pegasus and because that's what it's learned from because the company used to be called Pegasus and you know it's you know it's funny almost all of those guys had like really cheeseball memes to start with you know what dfi used to stand for that's always been mystified okay well at the end it was designed for innovation now it's our before before that it was Dimond flower international let's like who calls third component company diamond flower makes no sense LG lights good you know what that used to be right yeah you told me it was something yeah lucky gold star yeah it's like this is my lucky gold star washer and dryer smiled and you get like you know the a shine on the gum the teeth it's like they know so uh so yeah so so Asus change to something that didn't sound like a unicorn what a pegasus is all right - it's like weird question what our stylists made out of BC I can't use any heat touch items I use a head pointer to use gadgets I think he means like Oh what our stylus is made out of because I can't use any heat touch items I use a head pointer to use gadgets um okay well let's go with the part of that question that I think I can answer most styluses are made out of plastic there must be something different though because if you just press a piece of plastic against a stylus reactor screen it doesn't go off okay they must mean something else you know what I don't know great question sorry we can't help you sorry yeah Kelvin asks Linus what do you think about WD red drives been reading some reviews and some people have do a for those of you who don't know what that means it means dead on arrival also can you review Western Digital for terabyte black hard drive um my thoughts on my thoughts on w red drives is that we got four of them and none of them were DOA also DOAs don't necessarily indicate anything about the quality of the product they can just indicate that someone was unlucky let me look at it this way if you make a hundred thousand of something and a hundred of them die you got a hundred dead drives out there that seems like a lot but in terms of the actual failure rate that would be like socially pretty good 0.1% yeah that's pretty good right so even if a thousand of them died that would be a one percent RMA rate but that means because remember satisfied customers whose hard drive is in their computer just working they're not gonna say anything most likely would you go on a forum and talk about how your hard drive works no I've gone for us to talk about how certain parts of works and how they've worked really well but not a hard drive not a hard drive definitely not okay cuz if you did that I'd have to smack you yeah yeah yeah okay yeah sorry guys cuz you know it's funny every once in a while like on the ncx forum we're like hardware connects forum or whatever someone comes in and they're like never boss you good I bought three Seagate hard drives and two of them died and I don't think I've ever seen anyone come on a farm and say buy Seagate hard drives I have six and they're all alive so guys you got to take every bit of information you get with a grain of salt it just doesn't work that way if someone's like boy yuvigi a video card died after two years of my work he was only one year they screwed me it's like no that's bad luck it's really bad luck I mean if you'd registered your card you'd have gotten one extra one year warranty anyway but it's bad luck you got a bad card it's not it's it doesn't mean EVGA cards are terrible in fact pretty much everyone's graphics cards are especially reference cards pretty much the same quality anyway so so yeah I mean I get a kick out of it when people who are like you know why rhis cards more expensive they're like oh they're better quality and I'm like okay not the reference cards they're pretty much the same for everybody although some cards lightening classified like ones where they're really over building the card those ones are better someone's asking you to post on Twitter that I'm streaming at the moment but I can't imagine that it didn't go to Twitter when my YouTube video went live so I don't know if that's live yet yeah it looks like that's why there's a few people that have looked at it and almost oh that's funny look at this people don't even like me anymore this guy's like I almost tuned out when you said slick wouldn't be on cuz I was teasing them in the in the teaser and I said slick wasn't gonna be there because he was going to get our food and and yeah apparently people don't even like me anymore whatever you guys don't have to take this and how many years do you recommend upgrading hardware won't you feel this one I that's really subjective depends what hardware you have talking about do more things if it's a mechanical get it okay if it's a mechanical keyboard yeah remember if you're happy with it never uh if it's those cheaters things on it you may want to clean it some kind of cookie words you can take off he kept silent rid of your problem which made me stop eating so many cheetahs at your computer um yeah it really depends what you have what device it is when you're not satisfied anymore is your computer slow are you lagging in games are you below a certain acceptable threshold of fps are you out of storage you might want to buy another archive uh or would something bacon new comes along like SSDs are getting well below my teller per gig right now especially on Black Friday sales so if you don't have an SSD yet now might be a good time to buy that but as for like graphics cards two CPUs it really depends what you have to start with well that could lead us into one of our discussion topics you said okay fine I'm not telling you how much RAM do you really need for gaming not that much good question okay yeah well how much does not that much come on man hey gigs me buddy eight gig kit for really really cheap just buy that and you'll be fine I saw them NCIX had 88 kits for $19.99 yeah like ridiculously cheap just go with that you'll be fine for Kimmy that's more about the form you're working on sure actually let's let's let's kick off our first discussion topic then fine okay do you want to do the other one first the one that you said that was a good lead-in to no that's fine we can do the other one first it's okay no this guy we pronounced this guy's name wrong last time you're fired for what it's worth I warned you I told them I was gonna fire him on the line she did Nate you did we promise this guy's name wrong before he's I can't remember if anyone knew Tweety's anyone it's Greek or something hmm so bad 293 is back yes but it's not bad it will always be bad to me so you know what guys I want to involve you in this part of the discussion he's got a pen and paper this good series um no no I'm not writing anything down I'm actually writing down because I do those here though I need to write down the time 9 through 27 forum well yeah I wrote something down but it's not because I'm writing down what they're saying so what I'm writing down is the the time codes that I put under the video right so instead of actually going through and watching the video because quite frankly he's very boring and I have a hard time watching a show that has him on it also ugly I don't know what you people say just makes it a little bit easier for me to put those in at the end so first of all the choice of vbulletin so I had quite a few people on Twitter asked me why vbulletin because it costs 250 bucks it is not free like pH P V and there's some other options as well so question answer number orchid okay know what I want you guys filling in on the twitch chat and Twitter right now is what you guys want because there's a million hardware forums like literally probably a million hardware forums what do you guys think would set apart a Linus tech tips forum and I'd love to take your feedback right now and maybe I will even write some of it down no no I'll write some of the time but we're both listening we're both here and between me and slick 99% of the work on the forum and the conceptualization is going to be done tell us what you want so why vbulletin vbulletin was chosen because I'm familiar with it so I don't have to learn which is great because I have to learn enough new things to do my job and it's tiresome so I don't have to learn wow that's a really big factor number two is with vbulletin 5 they have a pretty cool content management system that's completely integrated into the forum so I want and you know reviews for example unboxings I want to have a couple little pictures I got a little short article I want to have a way to drive traffic to this site where people can really engage in discussion beyond the YouTube comments you comments are fine and dandy but let's face it for every sort of on YouTube in general for every well-intentioned coherent individual there's maybe 10 morons and I think that my videos bucked that trend I think for every 10 coherent individualist there's maybe one moron but that doesn't change the fact that there's still that guy reading it for everyone and YouTube is the ultimate mainstream platform where everyone has a everyone watches videos on YouTube absolutely everyone so I want to create a forum where we can weed out the one moron and we can just have really good discussions about tech I also want it to be a noob friendly forum I never ever want to see a link to let me google that for you not once if I see a link to let me google that for you I will ban you done because I want this to be somewhere where you can actually ask a question and get an answer and have people be respectful to each other so that's one problem that I have with a lot of the old guard forums so one that I particularly have taken issue with over the years is a super hardcore enthusiast forum based out of the states where basically anyone who goes there just gets treated like crap especially particular sections where people are not helpful they tell people to you know go read the stickies or go do this and I mean yeah people should read stickies but you can also be polite about explaining why stickies are there and why you should read them and all that kind of stuff you could point them to the correct sticky for example so there's ways to be polite about it so um I don't slit what's what do you think we can contribute that someone else doesn't already cuz you're he's a huge ocm guy yeah so what could we do that ocn doesn't do for example um OSHA has its own community and I think from the livestream you guys talking in the livestream you guys talking in the comments you guys talking on our Twitter's you guys commenting on each other's posts on Twitter that happens a lot sometimes I don't even have to answer a question because there's a couple guys that seem to go to my Twitter a lot and just answer questions for a week which is kind of cool um yeah you want them to wipe your butt for YouTube what like well this guy he's all like oh yeah I don't even have to reply to my own Twitter anymore it's cool because they like it's my view bass knows what they're talking but I'll even pay you for I think it would be cool to have somewhere for everyone to come together and talk about things amongst our community so I think that's pretty cool I think it'd be cool for everyone to show their own build logs and like we should definitely have a bill log section and you can be like oh like if you're new you can go like oh I got to this part my bill but I'm having problems with this and then instead of just being it being like bill logs were it's just epic and baller that's awesome but I think the bill dog could also be a helpful section right could be like look at this this is weird what am i doing why is it wrong how is my cable manage my cable management is there any suggestions for how I have this laid out is its water loop good how is this going bah bah bah bah bah it could be more of a helpful helpful space like that would be good I mean other things I think that we can do with a forum that are really difficult to do with Twitter and Facebook is we can take we can take feedback from more complicated things a lot more easily yep so thank you milady oh my goodness I get so many questions on Twitter that like if I answered it it would I would have to spam you like nine times because 140 characters is just not enough so many of the times it's really frustrating I get questions all the time where I'm just like this is not like this is not the right medium for this question I can't do this properly right now Twitter doesn't have adequate ways like for example I try to answer the vast majority of my tweets and Twitter doesn't have good tools to show you like HootSuite is a piece of garbage I don't even get me started on HootSuite what a horrible piece of software considering the company's worth like millions and millions now how are they worth millions of dollars they make one piece of software for one social network that anyway um so there's no way to track whether you've replied to something or not yeah it earlier I can't find it again yes there's no way to find stuff this search just doesn't work yeah at all yeah like you might as well key in Google tweet about something and like try to remember something about it because that's the best chance you have of finding that tweet so a forum would be a way for me to actually prioritize and keep track of messages I mean YouTube YouTube private messages are another example that's where I'd love to reply to YouTube private messages but honestly it's just stupid and it's a waste of my time because of a couple things at least 30% of people on YouTube have the private message block enabled so unless you're on their contact list you can't private message them so they'll message me and then I'll type out a reply for 10 minutes and then I'll extend and they have it blocked and I'm like you know what that's a waste of my time it just is and then the other thing is it doesn't it doesn't um it doesn't archive the previous parts of a conversation below your message I get so many private messages on YouTube I might have to go back five pages to find the original message you sent me and then figure out what I replied and then find your new message just to figure out what you're even talking about because people will be like oh so still don't say something like oh I guess I'm shopping for a monitor what's your suggestion and I'll send back this and then they'll say oh well what about this meanwhile have no idea what I suggested or what they originally asked me or what it's for and it's just not helpful so a forum would be a great thing for that any other sort of off the top of your head before we get to some tweets um no I like the bell dog idea a lot of course I want house build bugs but I wanted to be more helpful based and I know a lot of people have helpful kind of build logs but I just I don't know I think that would be cool and just bringing the community together one place one yeah one place instead of having all like of course these other different mediums will keep flowing but having a more permanent kind of housing for everything would be really cool and just so you guys know I don't have any intention at this time to put advertising on the forum so just if you're if you care about that it's not something that I'll be trying to that I'll be trying to monetize it anyway oh wow 203 tweets awesome I in-depth tutorials at - yeah yeah like like a lot of people asked for the mineral oil guy mineral oil cooling guide and I'd still don't think we'll do that but if we could have a section on the forum where people could ask more specific questions instead of just the general how do I a little computer because there's yeah I'm just not gonna get into it but if you have like more specific questions or have any questions at all you can ask them there and then I could like take my time and absolutely flush out answers that make sense you know what here's something I want to do a little bit differently from other guys as well a lot of forms have level up systems and they'll have rankings for their users on the - tech tips forum rather than it being pasted on how many posts or being based on sort of anything honestly guys I think that every level up in terms of your user status will be yeah none of them will be it won't be a paid level up you can't pay for a level up you might be able to pay for you know a custom avatar or something something something it does cost money to run a forum but I think every level up will actually be assigned by me or slick and I don't know if I've talked to you about this at all yet nope but what I want to do is I want to have rankings for people based on really I mean we'll both be monitoring the forum very regularly so I want to have rankings that are based on are you contributing how accurate is your advice I don't want someone on our forum to have a tag that says Top Contributor when that's just based on replying +1 or whatever else I want it to be based on oh I saw that guy and make a really good reply to someone I'd go and check his post history I make sure all the advice he's giving is accurate and awesome and all that kind of stuff and then I can put like a like a - approved advice seal next today's post we should have individual ones and yes - approved slick approved diesel approves yeah so we can do multiple tiers of rankings so that we can find a way to really differentiate no matter how many posts you've made or haven't made really differentiate the people who we see as top contributors right from the very start so you come in you make ten posts and they're awesome I would love to give you a better ranking even though you haven't made a lot of posts you haven't been a member for a long time so that's another way where I want to be really friendly to new members especially guys who are willing to be helpful we should we should we should have that but I think there might also be room for it like like seals like those could be seals I don't know but I think we should get your input from this too but we could have like seals like no like the Linus seal of excellence or like the slick seal of excellence or whatever I still want to start the League of Linus yeah well kind of already dating but whatever man all right thank you for coming your commitment I love your videos and stick thank you it's like a we're gonna have his own YouTube channel heaven forbid so ugly I have to cover it up in the library at this guy huh it's like Linus seems to make fun of you a lot have you ever considered pimp slapping him it happens but really I'll be doing an unboxing of that microphone soon a Seuss for sure yeah you know what here's the thing about subreddit subreddit will never have direct control over will never be able to label our top contributors will never be able said thank you know you you get like you could be a model okay why am i driving traffic to their website I know I'm just saying I'm just saying yeah um I cruise around I'm not gonna give up my username but I cruise around build a PC and keyboards and a bunch of other tech based subreddits it's pretty much all the sub rates that I follow or deck lease oh goodness but I I cruise around and I post again I'm not gonna say my name but I've never heard of of X here my random choices are Kingston core fare so no muskan gee spilled yeah never heard of a mixer sorry hmm yeah that's probably a graphics card upgrade that'll help you the most no one is talking are you guys serious ah Knicks missing the livestream because he's only on he's on 4G - platform profit no we're not actually planning to profit from the forum but thank you I think he means profit is it like this is a good idea that that's what a profit in financial ways oh I get it okay nice teamliquid sweatshirt slick foods if they're asking what is around just send those link to Wikipedia yeah don't that well no one asks what brand is though um okay so colors color schemes use neutral colors on the background so text is easy to read okay that's actually those are those are all that's all good input I'll look into that Michael wants a test of knowledge to join acts to join the forum Michael you are automatically been I think that was the point of making it noob friendly yeah there isn't a test of no there's no test we want everyone to be welcome at the Linus tech tips farm except people who are sort of what's it called lowest yeah mmm acknowledging someone who knows a lot isn't a bad idea but just try I think it's more thrashing on people that we're trying to stay away from you haven't a to user rating system yet for sure no we're not automatically banning anyone who requests to build with them and put it all but what we will have is a sticky saying what information we do need and then we can refer them to that yeah we're definitely gonna skin it I don't know how much work we're gonna be able to put into the skin cuz like I said I'm not planning to make it ad monetized so we're not gonna have a lot of money to spend on like graphic design and I don't think slick is very good I am probably ranking within the worst artists that have ever been born onto this planet and I'm probably gonna be the one and we are one of us will probably be the ones that make the skin so no easel can help looking out oh I'll try and find a template and hopefully diesel can help but in the early early build which I'm hopefully gonna be doing this weekend really hopefully oh well there you go that is what I pay him for it not as bad as that but hopefully doing this weekend I don't entirely know if it'll go live but it'll be running on my computer in the very early build and once it's probably the first version that goes live will probably not look insanely pretty but we'll work on it okay well Maldon things be bulletins just fine I should devote a forum just to stalking you I'm absolutely not building a PC versus NCIX building one or hacking dog versus a Mac Pro build a hackintosh don't like an AK just make sure the hardware is compatible as for building a PC this is having NCIX do it it doesn't it doesn't matter if you're lazy then you can have NCIX build it the additional benefit is they'll do a one-year warranty on the on the system itself it's honestly not that expensive I've got a buddy that every computer that he gets me like he definitely knows how to build computers but every computer that he gets he uh he gets it built by Intex because he's just way too lazy to build it himself um Michael get the H 100 I that one's new newark okay so we're not actually seeing that much feedback about the forum let's go back up to the top let's see if some of these 121 new interact all so if we have a forum I can post like the documentation from my benchmarking oh yeah that'd be kind of neat yeah so stuff that doesn't make it into the videos the actual spreadsheet so people can actually see it stuff like right so people I can load it and manipulate it themselves and whatnot so you don't just have to see a video version of it so I'll be kind of cool Oh was a good point okay mm-hm I didn't see the guys name but someone said that Jason asked when we when we plan on launching and obviously soon okay so I think we spent enough time on this topic we can go back and have a look at some of these tweets after um you know what have a look at some of your some of your topic suggestions for tonight let's do some more just general why don't we give the twitch chat some love let's see what they want to know these guys go so fast I can never well there's a good suggestion C let someone make a forums gonna make a contest out of it I mean the thing I don't like about contests sometimes it's just because one always gets hurt someone's feelings always get hurt no matter what someone's feelings are always hurt um like like if someone makes something for you no matter what it is if you don't like it for whatever reason they like even if it's incompatible or if there's like some weird reason that isn't necessary that you don't like it but you can't use it for some reason it'll always hurt that person so making a contest we only get to use one yeah like it's not like the Coursera keyboard video where we're like yeah we're gonna give away five keyboards except we're gonna give away seven keyboards and like 35 versions of Assassin's Creed because we're ridiculous I don't know why would this not be coming you know that it's not amazing I drop my team iris though so I'm super not thrilled about that stretching desert Merc I don't know this check so I had some note looks like it's okay so I had someone ask about the status of my personal build so here it is um as you can plainly see there is no status update so here's my t-virus here put the t-virus down here's the rig okay so basically I've actually unprogressive out it so you can see my 590 is covered in drywall dust because it was in the yeah that's really not good like I have no idea how I'm gonna clean it now my CPU socket is now empty cuz I had to borrow the CPU for something and then my and then two of my RAM sticks are gone because one of these one of my - edition RAM sticks that was in my wife's computer died oh yeah I'm super not thrilled so now I have five sticks take the spreaders off you can't trust me the adhesive you'd bend them before you'd get them off and they're there to pieces there's an outside piece and an unrepeatable it gets to trust me it's not gonna work if you can add some other round I could put them on the back so yeah I took two of those out below I got my raid card wired up correctly now and I've got a list in here of all the additional things that I still need to to do in terms of cutting things and all that so really there's probably only about eight hours of work left in it but I spent so much time on upgrading the studio that I'm putting in the garage and I just haven't had any time to spend on this so yeah between that and the baby it just really really Twitter question or twitch someone say something on twitch my god it's so quick I actually can't read people say hi slick chicken nuggets potato starcraft2 cannot sleep you even lift show us your lifting here you go dude can't do it the t-value can't lift decisiveness two bars is too heavy too heavy it's it's the weight of how great it is I know I just know I know and my first topic which I don't think will take very long a glossy versus matte and why it's important lossy versus Matt okay here we go hold on let me write this down okay we're ready okay so I've been looking through Black Friday sales as long as I mean the same is a bet a lot of you have I've been looking for a new monitor and I just there's a couple really good options and a couple of the really good options are glossy and I just can't do it I can't bring myself a bike loss tomorrow okay we should clarify it glossy screamed Gazi bezel hace bezel glossy bezel okay I like matte screen tubes they don't get glare problems but then I usually just blackout blind by room really yeah and then you get your bag of Cheetos I'm that guy i black out blended most rooms that I've been in um where I am right now it's not as easy but I have seriously I have curtains black coupons pukka boys my parents place is horrible because there's there's a huge double like sliding glass door behind me so you black outline I did not like a woman okay I'm not go by my room I don't like a slick moves out and has his own I hope I can fly to everything it will be a dungeon okay okay I'll let go blanket for you but you'd put your computer in the basement if you had one yes so you'd be like so so you have to have a nerd dungeon you'd be one step above living in your mom's basement I definitely want like one of my dreams for when I move out is like the best most epic nerd dungeon ever like I want arcade machines are Kings know what our team is yeah any idea how expensive those are they're quite a bit but you make your home yeah but I can tell you you can't afford to make your own because I know how much I pay you you're not gonna work for me forever you can be more sweet um you can make your own fairly easily actually especially with a lot of the like ITX there's like main emulators and stuff right yeah that's a legit though you have to have a legit pinball machine and like a legit like yeah I'm like I would want those I would really really want those but at the beginning I would probably kind of just know that's just because if you settle then you'll never upgrade it I don't know because you'd have to like you don't want to find like the one that some dude has just had forever and doesn't take care of it and just like uses it as like something to put his beer on like you don't want that no you find a blacklight yeah go over it if it's clean it's okay but like I mean like dents oh I got myself like I would want one that's still in good condition without dance well brutal where are you gonna find that brutal dance there's a there's a like Museum kind of thing down in the States no no they help you they help you find them they help you find them from the museum steal priceless artifacts don't steal arcade thinking small here I'd much rather arcade machine Minister I'm gonna let you finish by Beyonce had the best album and your trash how did we get here from travel I'll see your singing is trash compared to Beyonce I heard you sing how did we get here I think we started with velocity versus now we'd better monitor okay so let me put it this way I mean I don't own a single glossy monitor new Droid my TV has a glossy bezel as you can see yeah however my TV was a wedding present and as we discussed before there's no way to reject a wedding present I'm afraid I cannot accept this 52 inch television has my wedding yeah so yeah pay attention when you're buying one of these unless you just don't care but I would highly suggest making sure you get one with the map ISM you know what a lot of people what like okay cuz in theory you should never touch it so why does it matter but it collects dust more easily mm-hmm just generally looks dirty and you're gonna move it from time to time I think the biggest problem for me with glossy surfaces is that unlike paint like paint the glossy earth are more durable i'm easier it is to clean but it seems like with plastic the glossy ER it is the easier it is to scratch up and destroy yeah yeah it just looks like crap over time like you can you can see idea pads think books the IBM laptop yeah like super generally they're always pink books something yeah they're always like matte everywhere and even if they're super super old like my grandma has one that she's had for a really long time she got it with Windows 95 originally and it's like still a super old I keep it as a comp or so I can plug it into like old things anyways it's all matte and I bet you stole from the museum okay we got her a new computer and then she didn't want that one so she's gonna get rid of it so I took it so I can play many things with the comport anyways um it's it's Matt everywhere and it still looks new except for the fact that it's like an attic but like all the plastics still look new because it's all matte and great yeah will like Blackie great but yeah you know what a lot of people message me about you know those cheapo Korean monitors on eBay yeah so you can get 2560 by 1440 like IPS I think they're usually a - green panels LG IPS a - great panels lots of different monitors lots of different IDs for those of you don't know ID refers to industrial design so it's like the design of the product what it looks like so I was looking at them yesterday lots of options so they got ones with just DVI in they've got ones where you can supposedly overclock the panel to faster than 60 Hertz no seriously I believe it I'm just surprised they bought ones where they've got lots of different inputs they've got like tons of different options not a single one of them has an that bezel yeah I was not surprised I expect I expected that and I'm not really that surprised I don't know this glossy just seems like the go-to and I have no idea because it looks good in a story looks good on display and it's not it gets dusty instantly in a store the same way what they clean it every single night yeah in theory your magical story I'm just saying but like I don't know look good in pictures yeah it looks good in renders because it pictures it's impossible not to catch the line right exactly or like edited photos but like it's it's more of a sales pitchy kind of thing not a I've used this kind of thing before that had a glossy surface and I hated it okay here's what I want to know does it cost that much more to make a matte bezel i I don't know when I first started seeing like when when glossy started being really popular I was actually surprised because I assumed it cost more it looks like it would cost more I don't know I have no idea I know they have to put more protective crap on yeah because they always seemed like seal it yeah they always have to seal so there's probably tooling involved in something to do with that or like some kind of dye to cut out the plastic and but it someone has to put it on yeah yeah I don't know I just well it's probably machine but your machine and you're wearing green let's hope not machine well I didn't say you were the Hulk you said machines man yeah doesn't say machines man no he doesn't but you're a machine not Hulk the machine has to be green a bunch of people on YouTube telling me is hot and now he thinks he's like huh that wasn't the point why did you why did what does machine have to be green your name isn't Bruce Banner Bruce Banner except that I'd be dead right now I'm glad you not know remember it from Avengers he's always angry and can control it so you wouldn't be dead right now cuz you pay me but you've never necessarily like hulked before so maybe this would be the first time and you wouldn't have control cuz you're still young right yeah he's younger than me like a lot younger even though he's much larger eleventeen is not a number on a previous stream someone asked me how old I was and I said 11 teen and then someone thought I was Ashley eleventeen hello I have a question for the twitch chat we're going to put chat right now twitch chat twitch chat tell me something like this tell me if there's anyone who actually prefers a glossy bezel come on guys tell me what we got who prefers a glossy bezel yes I love no no no no no yes I saw one yes I saw one I prefer glossy people say largely but it doesn't matter twitch chat is just impossible to follow yeah but people complain when I put it on slow mode this is the problem with having 2,000 people watching alright back to Twitter because twitch chat is impossible I love you guys but it's impossible oh this is interesting synapse 2.0 apparently got an update so now when you lose the internet it goes into offline mode so you so use your key bindings so what's your take on on synapse now so synapses razor software that allows you to use the cloud to back up all your preferences for your peripherals and stuff let's I'm okay with it okay those my only real problem there we go if you fix my only real problem that's okay I I'm surprised they overbooked it but it that seemed like it was fixed pretty quickly okay so that's cool I'm cool with that I have not seen the msi empower ram although I suspect it's RAM just like all other Ram um huh Clinton says I have a $5 capture card and a $90 one they both look the crap what do you suggest as an alternate composite video capture card not HDMI Oh honestly I don't have many suggestions adapter off of what yeah but there'll have to be some kind of a gap like there have to be it'll have to be an active adapter well the live gamer HD can adapter off we were doing DVI and DVI we weren't doing HDMI HDMI I don't know but that's composite that's an analog signal yeah no no no the Blackmagic intensity Pro does do composite like it's a $200 capture card but it's a professional-grade capture card and it's really volatile and then well yeah and it causes blue screen adjust voice dies constantly well know if you have it in the right motherboard it doesn't die constantly right if anyone's wondering why we have the kinds of technical difficulties we do.thank nothing ever works we get pre-release stuff we get niche stuff beta drivers a the drivers we're always running ridiculously like state-of-the-art stuff that like thing a works thing B works but thing a plus B just explosion cuz usually if if we have a video about it if it's on release and we released the video on release we probably filmed it a really long time ago when they were still like you couldn't download the drivers for it it came on like some unlabeled discs or someone wrote with a marker like beta driver and then what number like it's usually pretty pretty sketchy so I remember there was one motherboard where I was getting driver updates in my inbox like every two days yeah and I was like what is the point of me even starting to test this platform if they're sending me new driver releases every two days that will completely invalidate or not driver a BIOS release that will completely invalidate everything I already ran yes why would I even bother to start on this and that happened all the way up till about three days from release and I'm like what about all the motherboards you've already built are they shipping with the BIOS that's not good enough not naming any names for anything but just you know a lot of you know you guys asked me a lot of the time - why don't you ever recommend this brand or ever recommend this thing I assume there's a reason let's just put it that way assume I know and assume there's a reason okay people could submit their own reviews that can be voted up in a database that would be kind of fun as a forum idea it'll be cool because we can't see everything yeah oh it's a good Sandy Bridge upgrade you know what here let's go into let's go into another and let's go to another topic why don't you guys why don't you get a topic for us okay this actually builds into what you were just talking about brand favoritism ah yes people ask why I suggest ducky keyboards Allah say okay this one's not even that's only brand favoritism I've had quite a few people go like oh I see you suggest a lot of keyboards on Twitter why are they all duckies it's because 99% of the people that asked me for a keyboard on Twitter are asking for a keyboard with backlights a mechanical keyboard with backlight so if you don't want a very specific colored backlight and it's mechanical keep like if you want a blue backlight there's three options yeah I think that's pretty much it if you want a back white backlight there's two options and if you want any other color there's one option so oh Coolermaster has some more now as well actually Lumos movie I think they have some backlit ones quick-fire something something there's one in the mail to us but it's shipped by USPS so it'll get here when it does whenever it feels like it yeah yeah okay well that's cool but like the reason why I suggest a lot of Ducky's is like in my opinion it's like ducky in Kokomo or like the legit like top tier keyboard that's just completely out g7 10-plus really really good I don't have enough usage with it yet personally because I've typed on it like three seconds okay so really decide okay I'll give you that um but Logitech as far as actually like software goes is legit way better than anyone else Logitech could blast up there I believe in Logitech seven ten plus but you can but okay here and then this is tweet wait until they come up with one with blue searches that's my whole thing I know I'm a blue switch guy so for me to really really like something it's gonna be blue so you can see what am i what am i doing for tweet okay this tweet is everything that's wrong with like PC enthusiasts so I got a tweet from someone I'm not gonna name any names at - tech I really don't like Apple if I get an iPad iPhone iPod I whatever then I would sell it directly because it is the worst OS ever with two R's and five exclamation marks so let me put it this way cuz I was making I was making a point I'm not a fan of anything I'm not some kind of zealot I have an iPhone I chose the iPhone because it was the best choice at the time Android was still in the gingerbread stage which was rubbish and the devices out there were not very good so I got an iPhone poor Android devices are way better now with stuff like the galaxy s3 being the selling gastón ever and so yeah ever right yeah I was just gonna bring up the Nexus 4 that's all though just like oh yeah Nexus 4 I might you know come up on it but I mean everybody's been out for so long oh yeah I know I'm just saying like like Android selling Android in general is selling like hotcakes right now so the point I was trying to make is that iPhone is a great phone that's it it's not open for debate they've sold millions and millions and millions and millions and there's lots of happy happy happy happy customers just because it's not good for you because someone was saying that it's the worst the worst OS ever really worse than Windows ME and now I'm just I mean I'm just picking on Microsoft is it worse than windows 95 actually 95 is okay I'm not gonna pick on 95 was it worse than I mean I personally liked this stuff but in your mind it wasn't worse than Vista i okay you see my point here right yeah we talking about this in the car and like you guys all know I fight for Android and I will continue to fight for Android but if my grandpa asked for a phone why would I suggest Android that doesn't seem like a good idea that seems like a terrible idea I want something that he can grab it and it will be set up immediately and he wants to do anything with it and you can just send emails and send text messages and call people so the point is that if it's not great for you that doesn't mean it might not be great for someone that doesn't mean it sucks yeah my mom my mom has a non smartphone Android and I wish I would have just gotten here to get an iPhone because she constantly struggles with it because like very simple cues she doesn't really pick up on all the time um which like very simple to me but iPhone seems a lot more intuitive for her usage scenario so depends what usage scenario being for so it might be the worst os ever to you but it's not necessarily the worst os ever everyone else again in my opinion for me especially infra I think probably a vast majority of our viewers Android will probably suit you better but that doesn't mean that iOS is inherently bad no like okay Apple Maps is bad okay but but I'm still managed to avoid updating to iOS 6 right so there then okay so so fanboy ISM in general is terrible and I just want to put it this way being a zealot of anything makes you lame what do you do that I'll just bring it up okay oh but in cases where it kind of makes sense is when they have like great support there great warranty so you can like the brand because of their how much they will help you but then if their products suck that's not gonna help so you should look at the individual products and then if you find two equals go with a brand that you know has awesome support but that's not being a zealot like being a zealot is supporting something that's just that we just know is bad I mean something like okay honestly you know what anyway who bought an original pentium for Extreme Edition tune out now just tune out now stop watching go away I don't want to talk to you anymore because it was an obviously inferior product I mean you're probably a little bit too young for this right here I I was not crazy okay the Pentium 4 Extreme Edition I think it was the 925 X II was the first one I think I could be wrong terrible product it ran so hot and it was so slow compared to the FX chip that it was up against which would have been the FX 51 or 53 or something along those lines the FX and II started this whole thousand-dollar desktop processor thing and like guys you know if you think any you know if you're all like blah blah blah you know AMD loves the consumer that's why they have two hundred dollar processor and he has two hundred dollar processors because that's so much people will pay for their processors when they thought they could get a thousand bucks for a chip they were all over that like white on rice they were they started this whole Extreme Edition thing that Intel continues to do so it was a just horrible product compared to what little else was out there people bought it I know that people bought it so that to me is being a zealot because AMD and Intel both have a long track record of good reliability blah blah not all that good stuff except we know that they cost the same and we knew that the extreme edition was dramatically slower and otherwise equal in every possible way we'd have hyper threading but it was still slower so it doesn't matter yeah like that's that's what I need them but like like let's talk video cards maybe like 1900 this was reskin which ones that 9800 that doesn't have to do with brand favoritism but that's like it was a reskin and a lot of people see I don't even invite him to these things it's just so that you guys can like look at him but a lot of people would upgrade to it just because they believed look at how much its new from its I knew a lot of people that didn't really yeah oh but they're like oh it's new I haven't 8800 DTX my 8800 GT exits good and it's Nvidia so Nvidia came with something new that means it's obviously awesome I should upgrade ok ok ok so I see that you means I'm faith and brands blind blind upgrading when you actually don't need it because you have that blind faith in that elitism so that's something like read review apple zombie syndrome yeah yeah oh my god new iPad I have no idea what just happened but I'm gonna buy one see that's another thing guys like you guys give me a really hard time for owning an iPhone I don't own an iPhone 5 I don't own a 4s I didn't own a 3d yes and I didn't own whatever what came before that was no just three 3G I didn't own a 3G and I didn't own an iPhone I have owned one iPhone ever because my company said we're getting you a phone what do you want so I picked this that was it I know I have actually only spent money on an Apple product once in my life and it was when I dropped my keys on my iPad and I cracked the screen and it was I think it was $200 to get a brand-new iPad from the store because it was under warranty or something so I didn't even buy my iPad I just replaced it when it was broken for it so that was the I was the only time so so guys I don't oh yeah here's another one has anyone ever told - that you look like Eminem I actually get that a lot and I don't see it do you see it no doesn't matter no no yeah see guys no I get it a lot though white guy with blond hair is that like is that what they're seeing well I dyed my hair blonde ones but it's like blonde - yeah I don't think he's a straight one I don't really know yeah whatever I already see it okay uh you know what this is this is a question that's gonna lead us into another discussion topic so discussion topic for right now is him stop asking me what is the best monitor stop asking me what is the best case stop asking me what is the best Mouse stop asking me what is the best keyboard I could go on for a while if it's something that's subjective I cannot tell you you can asked me I mean even I I sent out this tweet earlier and I had a lot of people tweet back at me and go will Linus what they really mean to ask you is what are you using to which I would reply it's probably not relevant because what I'm using for example for my monitor is a 305 T plus from Samsung you can't buy it it's discontinued so what am I gonna do I'm not gonna recommend it because you can't buy it in fact same thing goes for my mouse people ask me well what's the best Mouse and I'll say this and this and they'll say oh well what most do you use and I say well I using a carry laser good luck trying to buy one because they're dead no well they're not dead they still work might work they're hard to find but you can't find them anymore so um if you want to ask a question like what is the best monitor ask me a question like what is the best monitor for gaming refresh rate is most important to me or color is most important to me because what happens is I end up asking having to ask probing questions and what happens on Twitter if I have to ask you so if you said me so here let's simulate this ask me a question what is the best keyboard what is your keyboard for gaming do you need macro keys or not no do you type a lot yes okay go with a - keyboard what switches they both have please oh okay but don't be a smart guy so my point is I don't see every tweet if we have to go back and forth four times you're never gonna get an answer so don't ask me - can you configure a PC for me you know what go on and see I XCOM go to buy a PC and then find a computer and then say - is this a good computer or what would you change and then I can send you a summary and slick can do the same thing he's super technical - what would you change we'll go oh well you know downgrade mess upgrade this you can hit approximately that same price point get 10% better performance but if you're just like Linus I'm not willing to put the work into it what should I get for custom water cooling I'm gonna say look man this is Twitter I have 140 characters to tell you a full custom water cooling loop I don't know what case you have I don't know what CPU socket you're using I don't know what graphic card you have I don't know if you Eve a lot of water cool your graphics I don't know what your budget is like we want to help you but it's a lot better if you give us like like these are very specifically what I want or like like not smoothing okay saying I want a great gaming keyboard with blue backlight like that house we can help you that helps a lot but if it's like what's the best keyboard it's way too general what's the best keyboard I don't know what you tell me what do you use I well it has a wire I don't like wires I'm not wireless do mechanical switches inherently use more power why don't we have any wireless mechanical keyboards cuz wireless keyboards are okay the whole like mindset of having a mechanical keyboard goes against the like latency issues that are inherited by a wired by a wire they add a very low latency wireless um you couldn't like you can yourself make using like wireless dongles and whatnot you could make you'd end up with like big okay people want wireless because they want something elegant not because they write son Frank can keep like wires coming out of it here and like screws throw like random USB dongle just like shooting out of the back yeah that's still a wire I'm just saying no I mean like the stick just this thing it's just like uber low latency Enki rollover like all this kind of stuff is the whole mindset is mechanical so why would you go wireless you know why would you have a mechanical keyboard for your like Media PC well yeah but I don't maybe I just don't like maybe I want to have a great typing experience and I don't want wait worse something wrong with that I just the markets not there is my I guess I would have thought but there might also be another reason but I'm not a machine I would have thought the market wasn't there for mechanical keyboards in general but we've got at least like three or four like this entire forums dedicated to well yeah exactly but it's still a nice thing comparatively speaking compared to membranes be key words like memory it's totally nice yeah it's becoming more popular though Logitech's embraced it someone must have a wireless keyboard at some point like you gotta think you know at some point some of this came from some of this came from a tweak and I got that was oh yeah another thing guys is if you've already googled it and you already can't find it like the odds are excellent that if you google like you know 120 Hertz monitor with great viewing angles and you couldn't find anything like that the odds are excellent because it doesn't exist and tweeting me about it actually won't help so I had someone tweet me do you know what 120 Hertz monitor with great viewing angles or at least better than average and the answer is no because 120 Hertz monitors are all using TN panels they're using TN panels that are overclocked like mad in order to get the pixels to switch fast enough between color and a and color B in order to keep up with that 120 Hertz refresh rate TN monitors have rubbish viewing angles rubbish colour reproduction and rubbish color death that's just all there is to it however they are much much faster than VA IPS or pls panels which is good for gaming however I personally prefer my 305 t plus for gaming it's a VA panel it's slow as heck I can see the motion blur but it doesn't bother me that much input lag is very discerning ballif I have anti-aliasing on so I keep it off I like the high resolution the deep colors and the accurate colors that enhances my gaming experience so you might go okay Linus I'm not gonna ask you what's the best monitor but I'll ask you what's the best gaming monitor to which I would go I don't know man you want resolution you want color accuracy you want color depth you want speed I don't know you want 3d these are all I get this brings up the forum thing again these are all a lot better a lot better questions for a forum yes we can't we don't have the typing space to deal with it in Twitter I think that's more what he's complaining about you know what we need in the farm we need like a section with like slicks pics yeah and like Linus's I don't know there's nothing that catchy Slick's pics is way better well it sounds like it sounds like you know like slick sticks I don't know huh oh my goodness no double meaning slick specs where I try to take pictures of you picking your nose so it's pics of his pics and their slicks Wow no that shouldn't be an entire farm section no I don't think so okay then let's go back to let's go back to more topics that I had sort of oh yeah here okay riddle me this why do people buy phones without a contract um this tweets point no no don't worry about that one this one just that yeah why why would you buy a phone without a contract riddle me this like phones are like $600 it's a lot of money I think you're already on a contract you just switch what phone using okay so like if someone had why are you switching your phone cuz you want to do I wouldn't I'm just trying to I'm playing devil's advocate I'm trying to fight for the guys that do like I've got a friend of school that really really wanted the Nexus for I don't know what he has right now but he really really wanted a Nexus 4 so he was waiting to buy a nexus 4 online he already has a contract he just wanted a new phone you and me aren't I like I like Android and I play around my Android but I'm definitely not as crazy as well one of my friends other than that pretty much the crazy star group but like some of the guys a follow me on Twitter of commented on stuff that's a little bit over my head and I've looked it up and figured it out but yeah but like if you're a phone advocate it might be worth for you to buy a new phone you're just buying a new piece of technology okay I'm sure they know it's not what the but the release cycles on them they're so fast that's true what like if you if you have the money to spend and that's what you're really into then why not I would make the argument that any phone from the last couple years is a phone already already does pretty much anything that you could possibly need okay tell me what you can do with your Nexus whatever that thing is Galaxy s3 that you couldn't do with your Nexus S a lot of the games a lot of the games on my Nexus S with like emulators emulators would like some of the higher-end emulators would like this is just generally faster okay which it has a way nicer even though I had jellybean on my Nexus S this one's jelly being due to its hardware advancements is a lot snappier a lot faster and a lot more fluid and I can go from like playing a game I can be in the middle of a playing a game and just like tap home button and just send an email and jump back into the game on my Nexus S would be like tap home button Oh God the game has to like decide that it's quitting now okay see this is yet another like iOS thing I'm kind of spoiled I don't have what like there's no there's no lag I can exit the game and then go do something else and go back yeah but I'm talking about pretty intense games not angry buddies what's an intense game on a phone though they have higher end games like blade whatever Infinity Blade I don't know Infinity Blade supposed okay no that was a long time ago only games I have on my phone are from Humble Bundle okay okay well I'll fine you've made your point okay I kind of understand I mean it's been a long time it's just not really your thing yes phones are not my thing yeah so like you you can't hate on someone for enjoying something really I suppose keys I know this is related to the same thank you oh oh okay you know what let's do a little bit of out Twitter Kunik cuz we've really abandoned the poor the poor peeps on Twitter tonight three hundred and twenty new interactions alright here we go alright I was wondering if you could suggest a good gaming keyboard with macro keys I also type a lot so it need to be good for typing uh you know what actually g7 ten plus would be a great choice BAM okay here spend some time with the g7 ten plus I'll do Twitter question was prevent see what you think because of build quality like pretty solid to me alright 27-inch monitor with two to three millisecond response time don't care about the Hertz and a matte bezel under $400 what would you recommend you know what Ian that's you've got such a good idea of what you want you might as well just type that all into Google and find it however two to three millisecond response time is totally unrealistic so this is where you're asking me for something that actually doesn't probably exist um Wow a lot of people are asking me to unbox the Razer Ouroboros so I should probably do something about that I haven't actually can I now you know this to myself I don't who's sweet I can email myself a tweet to remind me but I will try to remember to deal with that because a lot of people ask me for that and now I've lost where we were what have you done this lick okay here we go we're typically at around one gig for most modern games however more gigs is only really useful for high res or mini displays I'm Nick that has not been my experience I've seen games use more than a gig of ram a contract with s3 for 24 months will cost around 1k but by the phone for 407 12-month contract is a better deal okay Syed um you live in the UK obviously and it might be different there but here trust me it is a way better deal to just get the phone with a contract especially because you have to get a service plan anyway I know that Wireless is really cheap in the UK but here it's totally different because Canada is really big and to a lesser extent the u.s. is quite big as well compared to the UK in the UK you put up like what three cell towers and you have deployed the latest high-speed technology whereas the carriers in Canada have - I mean how many towers do you think they have to put up compared to like + ridiculous and then they don't even they get like a lot of carriers in Canada or face their coverage off of population coverage not land coverage yeah yeah I think that because although cover is like like ABC but cover like Vancouver and Victoria Island I've been like a little bit of Kelowna and stuff and then they're like don't go up from there seriously okay look it I've seen the Rodgers map because it's just like it the top is like empty yeah it's empty and then it's like it like scoops up a little bit on the west coast and then kind of goes like and then jumps a bit when I get some Ontario that's about it right so like you're not really kidding old Canada codes so yeah here the the plans are actually super expensive like my cellphone's about a hundred dollars a month because I have to place some calls to the US so I need I need a couple more advanced features for business Nick Carter asks is it possible to find this yes it is eBay has them ebay.com go their search for 2560 x 1440 what is the best fans up for the corsair obsidian if i don't use the bottom fan mail going to use an h 100 i in the top mount just use Noctua f-series for everything and it will always be the best actually I don't remember if this he sent me has 140 mm fans you know what best fan sup is always easy find good fans put them in your case don't worry too much about it beyond that 200 - I've read a lot that you need to millisecond response time monitors for to gain what max response time do you think is needed for gaming anyone who tells you you need a two millisecond response time for gaming is an idiot because it doesn't exist there is no such thing as a monitor with 2 millisecond response time that doesn't exhibit motion blur which is exactly what the response time means response time is its Friedan and I have to grade a gray or whatever the other one is and it means how quickly the pixels can change color pixels are not fast they are slow they are so slow compared to CRT compared to DLP and projection are in projectors compared to plasma LCD pixels are slow so any monitor that is rated at 2 milliseconds you know right off the bat they're lying because none of them are that fast what's more important than the response time of the panel because there's only like a half a dozen maybe I don't know how many panel manufacturers are left there's LG Philips there's Samsung I think a ul still manufacture some but there's only a few guys left actually manufacturing LCD panels so it's all the same stuff so it's not like one of them is like we're already faster than something else because of like magic so yeah so anyone who tells you know 2 milliseconds is lying also the electronics of the monitor are in some ways way more important than the actual spawns time on the screen since you know that that's going to be pretty much the same so I have a monitor that has such bad input lag it's an input lag how long it takes between the monitor receiving the signal and actually sending that to the pixels before they change so I'll go like this it's like when I move the mouse like it's just terrible it's an older monitor none of the new stuffs that bad mostly you just see like motion blur on VA panels but um where was I going with this if you must have the fastest possible monitors get a 120 Hertz panel Ben Q's 24 20 T is excellent on a sousou's VG series I think it's at V TV age something whatever they're they're 120 Hertz and 144 Hertz panels are as good as you're gonna get the colors are terrible the viewing angles are terrible don't ask me if it's the best monitor because it's not but it is the fastest and like okay it still matters if you're ridiculously hardcore but the 2ms thing is kind of a sham just try and go for one that's good quality like he was talking about okay christian says he buys off contract for his phones can get a better plan that is cheaper in the long run okay again depends how it works for your from in canada you do not get a cheaper plan for having your own phone no but this is educational for me now i understand why people do it because here in canada injuries mix yeah people still do it here though yeah that i don't understand um I bought a phone case because my old one broke ah Slick's pics and minuses finest that's not bad for our for our like top five choices why hasn't cricket caught on in Canada um well the Sox are an issue it's a very European game yeah I know they're those Sox here and I think the a lot of sports are influenced from like a really long time ago and I think the whole American Canada trying to separate themselves from the European grouping of countries um by the way look at this guy look at him I don't think that's why people don't wanna play it are you sure that's not why people don't want to play it look at him I mean here it doesn't get any better look at these guys so look good look early truly yeah but hurting Cummings inexplicable - but it's huge in Canada old people play it it's like golf we're like old people can still do this so maybe that's why it's popular you look at these guys these guys are probably like super famous and awesome look how badass this guy looks look at that look on his face and this guy's a dreamboat but come on I got like stars on their uniform and stuff okay okay I mean it's not getting any better for this game okay good this kids pretty cool okay fine we're not gonna pick on cricket any more I'm done I'm done and I'm sorry I'm sorry uh you know what I think it's just a cultural thing I mean hockey is Canada's sport it's like you watch what your dad watches it's like why isn't oh boy this is gonna get ugly but like why isn't Christianity popular in the Middle East because your dad didn't believe in Jesus so they never told you about it and that's just it's it's cultural everything is cultural why isn't curry popular in Great Britain because that's not what you grew up eating so I grew up watching hockey my dad watched hockey there's Hockey Night in Canada it's just built into the fabric of your culture it has a lot to do with why is badminton not popular in North America fantastic sport fast paced super athletic entertaining to watch tons of fun to play but everyone in North America thinks badminton is this pink pink pink badminton is not that bad man 10 is 300 plus kilometer per hour smashes by I played tennis and I thought badminton I thought it was more than I think most people from where I grew up thought it was but then after seeing him play it's actually frickin ridiculous I still remember playing myself I still remember what you said to me the first cousin I had to it was a late filming night and I took slick with me to two because I was like I want to go play badminton tonight do you wanna just like nap on the couch there's a couch there and you said some of the long lines of like holy crap you're really fast yeah yeah I did not expect him to be that festival he did not know the game was fast yeah you have to be fast but it doesn't it hasn't caught on and I yeah I don't I don't know you had slits pick sounds like nude pics of slake you know what we could add that to the forum my traffic yeah might drive traffic okay guys if you would come to our forum to semiotics in ham then go away cuz he's really not that good-looking let's cover him up again nude pixels think I have to GTX 560 MS aligned with yes your power supplies fine what does gosu mean I believe Pro in Korean probably in Korean it's from sorry it's from handsome I think it's go handsome gamer calm the big star cough caster has a site where he sells shirts and they all reference Starcraft and you'll see go suits dark pants I was really good you don't care just keep going I like it though it's cool do you feel the nostalgia of the days you wanted a Motorola RAZR so badly actually I don't I've never been a phone guy I've owned like five phones in my life over a span of like 10 years so that should give you guys some idea what my upgrade cycle is and it was always whatever was free with a contract or whatever like work offered me the only reason why I ever got a phone in the first place was that I could get on the cheapest phone with the cheapest plan that offered unlimited texting so that my girlfriend could text me it was the only reason I got I got it so that she could talk to me I've never bought a phone I just realized that my mom bought me my first phone because it was like this cool Motorola thing it was called the me box or something like that it had a full keyboard it was the first like cell phone like mainstream cell phone it was $200 with a plan that had a full keyboard then that one broke so I got a warranty replacement of something else and then that one died so I used someone else's phone and then I got my job at NCIX and they issued me a blackberry and then that one got to be like three and a half years old and I was up for renewal so then I got an iPhone with my plan and it was provided by work I've never bought a phone there you go I just realized that I learn something every day well I didn't learn it but I realized it sort of the same thing oh my goodness it is not a 130 Hertz monitor some people have managed to overclock the early ones that's done down in Soviet Russia Google Linus is you okay thank you Peter I have a level 10 GT you wanted to know if I can keep my family to use the same color at boot I have no idea I also don't know why that would matter - is links isn't that so you need to say that you have to sacrifice qualities for high frame rates for the 120 Hertz mother yes yes you do the only way to get high frame rates great color and um yeah high frame rates are like fast frequencies great color and like great brightness and all that stuff is to have you know 60 pound CRT I kind of wish someone still made like like a 24 inch widescreen CRT I'd be kind of Awesome the shipping costs on those are nowadays well I mean it was always that was always a huge part of why CRTs for expenses no I know I'm just saying like like you're incredible yeah it would have to be just like horrible comparing and the volumes would be so low yeah cuz nobody wants the CRT I mean some people think but they're very nation uh okay we've got like I thought I thought I saw someone say something about tedious oh no I thought someone said our conversation was tedious if you guys don't like the conversation I'm very sorry moderators from forums will be individually selected based on contribution in the forum that much is set in stone at this point in time what you got for a topic got a couple things probably see yes oh yeah so guys we mentioned a little while back that we're gonna be at CES so he and I and Diesel's coming to now yeah are gonna be at CES this year we are going to be doing all kinds of cool stuff we want to know what's your priority so the goal is to provide the most complete content possible so we want to do video then we want to have pictures to go along with a little written article that has the video embedded in it we want you guys to have the CES experience that you would have if you got to go which you don't because you don't have an industry affiliation unless you do in which case maybe I'll see you there so what's the most important to you guys because there's a lot of aspects number one is there's the show floor itself where you're gonna have a lot of iPhone accessories like serious business like a third of the booths will be like iPhone crap then there'll be like the Intel thing which will be like this huge thing and probably its own dedicated video or multiple videos and then in between that you've got guys like you know shuttle for example where they're like IT cool.i key components showing off new stuff but they're not Intel and they're also not iPhone accessories where it's kind of cool stuff then you've got the Suites so guys like some of the boutique you guys like you know an EVGA or someone like that Corsair might have all their new stuff on display too sweet in a nearby hotel and finally there's just the general hubbub you guys want to see like the traffic and like just all the people around and like sort of some of the cool stuff going on outside the CES building so what's your priority what do you guys want to see you want to see the show floor you want to see the Suites and focus on sort of what's on display more privately or do you want to focus on like do you want to see keynotes and stuff which I don't think is gonna be an option because we can't get press passes but yeah okay forget the keynotes we can't bring you that um but do you guys guys just want like general footage or the whole thing you want like the beanthere experience right yeah but like also what thanks for the contribution like dude if you were talking pretty quick the whole time what you want me to do um like you all I want to say something when you're talking I just talk over here cuz you're a jerk Oh like do you want more of a focus on written articles do you want do you want quick quick quick articles all the time or do you want just like more in-depth thorough articles like yeah just what do you guys want now what do you want lot of computers okay well we don't have to transition into that right away we could actually read what they're saying okay okay bugs no iPhone stuff all right is it useful having four gigs of um yes however I have no idea how much via Graham future games we'll use because they're not here yet when are you going to play Super Mario Brothers we said yeah I have no idea I have no idea it's we're both ridiculously busy so finding time to sit down and bust the super brothers is gonna be hard yeah so that's in school I work full time plus YouTube so that should give you guys some idea but like we will I think at a point in time we will get it done maybe in the summer yeah like it like it might take a long time but it we will announce that the forum is live the second it's live guys yeah I might do some first I'm testing for the forum I might just post on my Twitter so we don't get completely redid cuz Caesar crushed because we will if we post it on your Twitter right um so I might just post it on mine and I might just put it up for a little bit of time just to test certain things and I'll probably have a theme like post pictures or something here's a good question if and asking me I guess if you have any if you actually why don't we both answer if you could have any phone now for free would you go with an iOS phone or Windows or Android go I would love your fasting I would love to try the new Windows one but I would probably go with what if you were locked into it like what if you're a cheap person like you are he's like one of the cheapest people I know what if you were cheap and you knew that whatever phone you pick you're stuck with it for the next three years Thanks is for you'd go with the Nexus 4 yep done Nexus support is amazing you'll always get the new OS upgrades you always get all that kind of stuff so the Nexus 4 okay I love my s3 it's great but if walk into something I would like it to be an xx 40 issues anyways um if I'm locked into something Nexus and the newest one is the Nexus forward it's getting awesome reviews and it's just generally great so we haven't go thanks it's for haste oh I would get an iPhone 5 you don't what okay not not because I'm a zealot but a couple of reasons you're used to the user experience I am used to it I hate learning new things although I have spent a fair amount of time with Android just because I have to because it's my job however all the apps I own are on iOS I have bought apps and my grading is a pain I have an iPad and I don't like Android tablets yet I haven't found one that I really really like I used my Galaxy Tab 10.1 to watch flash videos other than that I refuse to use it I use the iPad I use my TF 700 again for watching flash videos when the battery is dead on the Galaxy Tab because it's too heavy then the Galaxy Tab is lighter I'm a really picky user and I've had people say that I'm just like a really like you know don't be such a bitch just use whatever but come on guys if you could have every tablet yo wouldn't you just be picky about which one you use I mean they're all here why don't I use the one I like best BAM so um so yes so I like you know having that that ecosystem that is similar I'd never go Mac for it like I'd never go back to have the full integration thank God I don't know maybe I'd consider a Windows Phone I'm interested in the Windows folks whose eighties free awesome we play around with that Samsung enough though I know it wasn't enough we saw the Samsung Windows 8 Phone and yeah the windows 8 launch party looked awesome it looks great it was based at me basically an s3 made out of metal yeah that had fine nose aid on it so it was pretty is pretty pretty legit the camera sucked I didn't know the camera sucked did it yeah supposed to be the same as this one I don't think so oh good even know what mr. tablet it was the tablet but the camera tablet okay yeah the the Windows eight one from Samsung has the same camera as this which is sorry okay my bad um okay I would waffle about it it would be a tough choice I wouldn't go Android though okay I'm not surprised that just cuz well I know you don't like these experience I personally I think interest pay and you know what this comes down to that fanboy or something again where honestly sometimes fanboy ism isn't fanboy isn't sometimes it's a negative past experience the Android experience with my wife's phone has been terrible but you're using like again not a Nexus device you didn't get updates and you're using one like an older Android device and older Android OS is we're not that popular this is this is a good one Trent asks can you do more 3d monitor unboxings around 23 inch and more affordable not those $600 ones please this is a great example where if you checked it out and you searched for 3d monitors on safe for example a popular retail website like NCIX what you'd see is that the 3d monitors do cost a lot so for me to unbox the ones that are not expensive would be very difficult slick specs and minuses Lube - likes that's not bad is that on Twitter or something no okay do you have anything else for really important discussion topics because it's 1042 already for people that are really into games a new release that's coming out fairly soon I think it's right at the beginning in December Far Cry 3 if you look on YouTube there's a the first 20 minutes of the game looks awesome really excited for Far Cry 3 the storyline sounds amazing if you've been following the storyline updates at all and the gameplay video is just it's great check it out 20 minutes the room storyline at all the others the advert on The Escapist is terrible the voice actor is I think the worst I've ever heard the voice actor in the main character I think it's did I maybe it's just for the ads like maybe he just phoned in the ad spot or something because it was just terrible my friend dunno I went to an island and then well that's the whole captured me originally he's kind of like a prissy boy man his brothers in the army and his brother like in a little tiny bit of time trains him like very basic things and then he has to like find his way to survive and he becomes if it's better than far cry 2 I'll be happy like he's got like rich parents and stuff when they sent him on this trip and then all of his friends got captured and killed and etc okay Harry asks a question that can be addressed he wants to blog about something everyday computer and gaming server he needs a GPU with dual HDMI no you don't DVI is the same signal as HDMI DVI to HDMI adapter is exactly the same image quality as trade HDMI and vice first stuff for that matter the only difference is that HDMI has half the bandwidth of dual link DVI we can leave that one oh yeah we can actually leave those for next week cuz there's uh we've kind of run out of time I just want to see if anyone else has tyler asks do I still have the surface I do not that was only an eval unit I only got to hold onto it for about two weeks oh I did really like it though this is this is time-specific steam sales there's tons of epic epic epic steam sales going on Black Friday yeah but there's there's like some done by hours there's some done by days like go check it out there's gonna be new steam sales up all the time and a lot of them are really good they have a cup I know there's a reddit thread for like all the top to discount ones so some of them are like 80% 75% cool should check it ok well I've been corrected one writes back in to say actually - you're wrong I have 120 Hertz dot biz hahahaha hold on actually it's on sale and people are having good results a BAM sold out since November first so I don't know I don't know who's right let's go back to Twitter ah let's see yuvigi a step up from 660ti SLI two to six eighty s and s like right that hard to say depends how much you're paying for it what's your experience yeah surface RT I really liked but I'm really excited for sir Pro full windows 8 full windows 8 that's gonna be you install things and fully dues the truly awesome like super excited about that oh yeah I love it good ideas something something what was the question we even asked I don't think anyone's answered it I use xsplit what people want to see yes yeah nobody answered it yes this is a good monitor if the surface Pro's at CES you should do an in-depth article on that yes absolutely absolutely this is good to hear ok no maybe I should change my answer then maybe I should just like say I'd bite the bullet and go for Windows 8 over go what do you think of the g7 10 plus I ok if it's in here for a while right hold it up because they can't see it because it's one of my first things that I noticed is the whole don't know if you can see that so oh yeah you can't as I turn it like this steel the glossy we talked about that earlier today the whole thing's glossy and the whole time I've been sitting on this not the whole thing okay of course well you mean of course there's a lot of coffee razor razor has a glossy keyboard do they have the like oh so like husam mirror was super glossy yes yes I saw someone with it at Al and it was the most disgusting thing I've ever seen oh ok anyways the whole time I've been sitting here did you guys see me looking down a lot it's because I'm grabbing my shirt like this and putting my finger in it so I can clean the glossiness cuz it is just driving me insane already so I do not like that at all the keys feel good obviously I'm a fan of Blues so I'm not really gonna comment on that too much keycaps seem pretty legit there's a few things like game-mode I wish that was a switch they're gonna toggle that um they can't see what you're doing I'm just saying right yeah I know like the mute button and game mode should be switches in my opinion okay other than that it seems pretty legit the build quality seems really good really really good would you put it up there with Philco and ducky the build quality yeah see I'm already cleaning more of the glossy stuff I don't know I still think I need more time with it okay but maybe close though close I think it's like one of the biggest contenders so far but I still think Falco and Daphne would be probably okay well thank you guys yeah yeah okay so thank you guys for watching the livestream tonight and peace out what did you just do you did your peace sign what's your peace on show me that again does it Japanese thing what all right no one's ever watching by the end anyway well at least on the YouTube are no no there's still people watching like the live one oh yeah and thank you all of you who tuned in tonight you guys are awesome yeah yeah it's really cool just click or let's bring up another topic and keep talking one of the two