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Linus Tech Tips Live Show Archive - October 5th, 2012

2012-10-05
holy crap were alive welcome everybody to I think this is like my fifth or sixth live stream something like that either way I think I'm getting a little bit more used to the routine I see there's lots and lots of people joining us in the chat already actually not that many but we're starting so you know hopefully more people will will tune in soon I've got a lot of really cool stuff to talk about today and as usual we'll be doing a fair amount of Q&A mostly on Twitter so guys if you're not already following me on Twitter make sure that you put in the thing that's like the app symbol or something at symbol - tech follow me on Twitter because that is the way to interact with the show however there are some challenges with Twitter Twitter is not actually the best platform ever and you know what actually I've come up with another topic for tonight's livestream and that is the fact that I absolutely hate HootSuite it's the stupidest thing ever and I'm gonna show you guys all the reasons I hate it and I really hope someone from Twitter or HootSuite or someone who knows someone who knows someone at HootSuite is watching this because yeah it's not very good whoa and I've got an audio echo going here hold on a second I'm gonna go ahead and turn that that there down and of course because my cat chewed up my hold on Oh can't take that right now because my cat chewed up my volume control I actually have a really hard time adjusting it yeah it won't won't turn off come on there we go there we go all right so let's open that back up HootSuite it's not very good there's my note for later so I guess what we'll do is we'll just get started here so huge well first of all I guess thanks for tuning in guys we've got like 300 people watching already so that's that's outstanding given that I haven't you know what let's give the guys who are waiting for the YouTube video let's give them a chance to tune in I'm actually super impressed with and yes the giveaway announcement will be today and I'm sorry for that tweet where I called it a GTX 670 it is not a six seven my bat it is a gtx 660ti which is also a perfectly good graphics card and by perfectly good I mean awesome so so yeah we're gonna do that later and where was I going with that yes doing oh yes right my youtube video isn't even up yet so the YouTube viewers haven't even had a chance to tune in because the first recording I did like I do a recording and then I upload that to YouTube so the bacon tuned in and then they can see the livestream but unfortunately the first one I recorded didn't have any sound so I uploaded it and fortunately I realized that it had no sound before anyone actually anyone actually looked at it and I I mean I know I have technical problems with my videos sometimes but yeah I'm trying to avoid them trying to avoid them as much as possible so let's say if I just want to make sure that videos up let's go ahead and check if the YouTube viewers are gonna have a chance to tune in yet yes it is up there are nine comments and five views and port poor this guy I mean what what what is this name here I I have like I have no idea I have no idea what this name is here check this out like I don't stand a chance of reading this anyway he just wants to go to work and I'm very sorry that my livestream is going to be interfering with work because that's that's very sad and I hope that you do tune in either way so I guess let's get started topic number one today is in videos greenlight I'd love to see on on Twitter or on the chat on twitch who here is familiar with what greenlight refers to okay Oscar says Venezuela says hi that's cool Oscar hi to Venezuela as well okay Jason says hey Linus you're live is the speed of your rabbit important to overclocking no generally speaking not really it's um it's less of a factor now that we have unlocked processor so Ram didn't matter back in the day when he had unlocked multipliers and then Ram mattered a lot in the in the socket for 78 days Ram was everything getting high performance high frequency round was the only way you were gonna get the maximum overclock out of your CPU and then both Intel AMD now have unlocked processors so you actually don't even need to adjust your Ram speed in order to get whatever overclocking you want Adrian wants to know how I know Logan honestly I don't really know Logan I've never met him in person just we've exchanged tweets and emails and YouTube private messages over the last sort of while here that's that's about it we only really know each other through like like the YouTube the YouTube Brotherhood so I I'm late tonight Brian I am NOT late tonight I was exactly on time I was about as on-time as someone could ever be for a live stream that starts when they show up so no matter what I do no matter what I do I'm on time so no one I'm not familiar with green light oh this is great green light is extremely interesting so it started with the Fermi architecture cards and what green light basically is is okay let's say galaxy for example galaxy colourful palette actually I don't know if colorful is a Geforce partner or whatever they're not in North America so let's go with the g-force partners MSI Susi VGA all of these guys what green light means is they create a design for a card so if you guys aren't familiar with how an atom board partner works basically Nvidia designs a chipset so that's uh that's a GK 104 for example GK 104 is the chip that's on a 660ti it's also the chip on a 670 a 680 and a 690 but there's two of them so they have a chipset then they do a reference design where they take that chipset and they completely design a product around it so they'll put on a memory amount of memory and they'll put like a suggested memory ram speed frequency timings they'll design like a power delivery system and they'll make a PCB for it they'll do a cooler that is a reference card so it's actually designed in every possible way by Nvidia although Nvidia manufacturers nothing Nvidia's chips themselves are manufactured by a third party such as TSMC and their cards themselves are actually usually meant well not usually they're always manufactured by someone else as well so when nvidia does like a new launch for example if they launch a reference gtx 680 that means one of their a didn't board partners was probably contracted to produce all the reference six 80s which then the other partners have to put their sticker on and you know they're kind of doing it as a favor friend video so they probably don't make a whole lot of money on it and all of that but that's nugget reference design oh yeah now the Adhan board partners are more than welcome to design their own many aspects of the GPS so you've seen you know EVGA with their umpteen billion different versions of every GPU or they've got a super clock and a super super clock and a for the win enough for the win plus and a super super clock plus and a classified they've got so many cards so some of those have different cooling solutions some of them have different clock speeds some of them have different power delivery which will enable better overclocking some of them will have different amounts of ram so they might be two gigs three gigs four gigs six gigs doesn't matter these are all the different things that the atom board partners can do they can add different display outputs so great example was EVGA s 570 HD where they actually added and this isn't a 570 but they added a DisplayPort out which none of the other 570s really had they were mostly dual DVI with a mini HDMI another example would be galaxies 570 m DT which actually had triple display outputs on a 570 before Nvidia officially introduced that feature with the 600 series okay so we got reference designs then we have adding board partner designs and that's anything that was designed by someone other than Nvidia and doesn't look like that standard nvidia card okay so green light means that Invidia it has to approve or give the green light the go-ahead to any design that a manufacturer submits before it gets released to market so what does this mean there's a lot of different sides to the story so I'm gonna give you guys a little bit of the history of what's happened to bring the green light program to light to light green to light recently so number one is MSI's power edition cards their power edition cards their hoc edition cards nvidia has a certain spec so you know this is aside from the cooler and the clock speed whatever they have a certain spec for how much voltage they want apply to the GPU how much voltage they want to apply to different parts of the kit that is used to make up this graphics card where the item board partner can design all the other stuff and what MSI was doing was they were allowing the GPUs to be over volted and overclocked in a way that Nvidia did not authorize now Tom's Hardware did a fantastic article actually it was the German site that I think did the original article but there's an English version that's sort of shorter and and easier to read for people who don't read German like me and what they basically discovered was that MSI was dramatically over volting one of the components on this board in order to achieve the results they were getting I mean a 660ti power addition when maximum overclocked could actually run right there with a GTX 670 reference card when they were both at their maximal overclocks which basically means you'd have to have rocks in your head in order to buy a 670 reference card when this 660ti power edition was just as fast once you overclocked it so so they discovered that's that's what they were doing it was also then discovered that MSI is revising the cards in order to adhere to Nvidia's guidelines with respect to GPU voltages and and the overall design of the card to get a sort of green light it again.now green light doesn't mean that MSI cannot release the product you can see they released the 660ti power Edition even though it was not running according to spec so what NVIDIA has basically come out and said in the last last day or so is that it's not a matter of vents red lighting a product they're not saying ok you can't release this product to the market but what they are saying to the Adhan board partners is if you release this product we are not going to warranty the components that you bought from us so basically they're voiding the Adhan board partners warranty for overclocking outside of the certain threshold that nvidia wants overclocked another example is EVGA 680 classified that knot is no longer sold with the evbot utility that allowed it to be over volted ok so a couple different ways to interpret this number one is you could kind of go rawr rabble rabble rabble nvidia is limiting the board partners in terms of what they can do in the terms of the designs they can bring to market the performance they can deliver to gamers so that's that's one perspective the other perspective is this is from Nvidia scamp is that the greenlight program is designed to improve the reliability and the consistency of the experience for GeForce GPUs for gamers so NVIDIA has an internal philosophy that and I agree with them a hundred percent on this that if your video card dies after a year or two that's not a good thing and that that's going to create a bad customer experience a bad experience around the GeForce experience and NVIDIA is deeply concerned with what kind of an experience the customer has whether they buy a Gallic galaxy card an EVGA card Asus whoever it doesn't matter from their perspective they want to make sure no matter who the customer chooses they get a great experience so very valuating things on this greenlight program they're evaluating acoustics they're evaluating the temperatures they're evaluating the size of the GPUs making sure that the customer is gonna have a great experience so from their perspective they're kind of sitting here going ok we did all the work on this we understand how this chip works down to its varied like microscopic level we've done all the testing and determined what is a safe voltage in terms of the heat that it's gonna output you know whether the cooling design can handle it or whatever else what is a safe voltage in terms of the longevity of the chip they have bend the chips at their level so remember guys a GK 104 GPU is exactly the same GPU exactly the same thing whether it's in a 660ti of 670 or 680 so what is the difference the difference is that they actually take these GPUs and they sort them into which ones are validated for 680 670 660ti operational speeds as well as the number of functional units that are enabled okay so in videos basically okay look well we already been these for you we told you what voltage is safe to run the matte from a reliability in a heat output perspective and if you want to go ahead and turn them up that's fine but the onus is going to be on you to support these things once they're out there in the market because this is not what we designed them to be used for so who's right actually that's outside the scope of this conversation but I would love to get your comments on Twitter and have a look at what you guys think about the greenlight program and whether ok you guys are just like you guys are just not talking about this at all ok please please outline is tech tweet that direction tweet and let me know what do you think of the greenlight program whose side are you on are you with the adding board partners who are basically going ok well we should be able to take this thing that we bought from you in video we should be able to do whatever we want with it and you should warranty it because you know we're your partners or do you take the other perspective and go well Nvidia kind of has the right to set a warranty termini they're not telling the partners they can't do it they're just saying we're not going to warranty it because you used it outside of the oven it's like if you use your fridge to cool your PC you're not gonna get warranty for that it's like a consumer TV actually consumer TV is our great example Toshiba I believe is the only brand that will actually warranty a consumer TV the instant you put it into a commercial environment so if you use a sony tv samsung TV in your business in your restaurant you have TV displayed you want it up on the wall the second you put that in there your warranty is void because it is not valid for commercial use so it's not like this is an uncommon thing ok we finally have some interactions let's have a look at what people say all right doo-doo-doo-doo oh wow we've got a lot of responses now yeah way to go guys okay Nicholas invidious side Ria's we're not talking about that right now Jourdan Nvidia is taking a stand I like it they aren't limiting us we'd still have both options no Jordan something I would bring up about your point here is that we actually don't have both options every partner that I'm aware of that had asked you that was not warranty able under green light has pulled that skew back so effectively by pulling the warranty out of them they have removed those options from the market whether they're correct about it or not is sort of the debate we're having here but we don't really have a choice anymore so they're something to bear in mind Nvidia is correct Nvidia Nvidia Nvidia are in the right here Ryan says what's going to happen to the existing 660ti so well for the power addition from MSI which is the example I focused on a lot here any that were already released are going to be what they are and so they'll perform a little better and then the new ones that are redesigned will be under the same name they'll be the same SKU and they'll have slightly less overclocking potential you won't be able to crank up the voltage as much and that will be that okay fax says NVIDIA has the right to control their warranty Alex I'm with NVIDIA they shouldn't have to warranty something that's not designed for so it looks like by and large you guys are both are all very much on the green light Nvidia side which is very interesting because a lot of the time consumers and I'm not going to generalize you guys hear anything like that but a lot of the time consumers are not very quick to side with sort of the multi-billion dollar international company in this case I can see it from both perspectives because what Nvidia is effectively done is they've taken something the GPU partners have always taken for granted they've always been able to do this before and it's always been one of the ways that they can compete against each other because it's not like Nvidia supports every partner equally I mean they try to do their best but it's like no if you have like ten children there's bound to be one that's your favorite or whatever else so one of the ways that the GPU partners could use to differentiate from each other has has been taken away so I can see why particularly some of the partners that relied on this would be really upset it's like um should your kids have an ice cream every Saturday you know what it there's nothing wrong with giving them an ice cream every Saturday if they're being good are the kids are the kids wrong when they say well we're still being good and the expectation was always that if we were really good we were gonna get ice cream on Saturday and now you're saying no ice cream anymore I don't know I don't know I don't have I don't have my dancer here but uh okay invidious side and videos on the right Matthew so say my name that's creepy dude creepy creepy creepy oh wait you didn't mean it like that all right what else we got here so we've got about another 65 results which means I can't read all of them but I am gonna do a quick skim here once I get down to whoa we have a lot of lot of tweets here Matthew something something I don't know whatever let's just look at them possibility change motherboard is it gonna be descending videos correct in videos correct oh I think I actually went past it there we go on invidious side as the partner doesn't want to crank up the cards Scotty Scotty you the first one decide with the partners here I'm with the partners because they produce brilliant coolers and it just improves the cards performance you're right it does improve the cards performance so here's an interesting take on it this was um I forget who brought this up but a EVGA 'z 680 was originally permitted to operate this way and then now they're not able to ship it with evbot anymore so effectively in videos created this environment where SKUs that don't really exist anymore okay so the power Edition as we know it for 660ti doesn't exist the 680 classified with all the over voltage doesn't exist but SKUs that no longer exist have been used to set overclocking records and set an unrealistic expectation with customers did they do this intentionally did they not I actually don't know and they asked the right to limit their warranty I'm on the nvidia side I think the greenlight program is great and I'm all for a good customer experience you know what that is that is one huge way to to look at this is that if nvidia is effectively improving the reliability and the GeForce experience then how can we see it as a bad thing hard to say I mean what if what if the partners basically said to you guys here we'll give you a bios that you know if you register your card we'll give you a BIOS that unlocks all of the over-voltage options and you will you'll forfeit your warranty would you guys do something like that I mean that might be the solution to all of this MSI continues producing the power edition exactly the same way that they always have and then they just kind of go okay well you know we're gonna ship it like this with this BIOS that limits all this stuff so we can maintain our warranty and then we'll give customers the option to and I don't know how they'd track it to be perfectly honest I mean it is all hypothetical but we'll give customers the option to forfeit the warranty that way it's not on MSI's head what the customer decides to do with that card and NVIDIA won't have to deal with it either that way you're just taking responsibility for your own your own overclocking adventures which is how it used to be actually I mean overclocking used to avoid everyone's warranty back in the day so okay you have a similar process AMD I think is pretty much they they let the partners do what they want at this point I mean you look at something like the devil 13 7990 from power color I mean that's a very elaborate design that went into that card and they also yeah they've released it power color managed to release it so I'm with Nvidia not warranting misuse I'll take Nvidia side I want to look for anyone else who's who's on the who's on the partner side here I think we only had one person side with the partners through all of this and videos oh here we go here we go Mikael says I think I'm more on the partner side because if they buy the cards they should be able to do what to Nvidia is right to vote okay I'm unfortunately I don't really understand that T tweet but Thank You Mikhail for parts debating okay we're gonna move on from this topic now I see I have a ton more tweets about this but as you guys can clearly see it's pretty much impossible for me to read and and and analyze all of them but I just wanted to share this whole situation with you get your guys's thoughts on it I give you my thoughts on it let's move on to the next thing ultra books so my understanding of an ultra book was that aside from MacBook Air which we all know hopefully we all know is not an ultrabook MacBook Air is not an ultra book okay so we're clear because ultra book requests the word ultra book requires an Intel license to use it it's licensed on ask you by SKU basis for those of you who don't know what a SKU is a SKU refers TIFF means stock keeping unit it's like one sort of set specification of a particular in this case notebook okay so it's on ask you by SKU basis there's no charge from Intel to validate a notebook the only charge involved is you take your notebook we're gonna pretend this is no but this is gonna be my prop for the rest of the night no matter what I'm talking about so you take your notebook you stop a shipping label on it you send it to Intel and they analyze it they look at it in a bunch of different ways and sort of then they either give you the okay yes this is an ultrabook or they say no go back to the drawing board you have to fix this and this and this and it is not an ultrabook yet send it back again when it's done and so anyway so Apple does not participate in that program so MacBook Air in spite of its similarity to something like an Asus Zenbook is not an ultrabook okay so I would love to see some tweets here guys about what you think are the characteristics of an ultrabook so we're gonna go back to we're going to go back to the Twitter feed here 36 new interactions of course of course there are 36 new interactions you guys are you guys are crazy you guys are awesome honestly in the last week I've gained about 4,000 followers on Twitter which is which is outstanding and I'm sure not all of you were just in it for the graphics card giveaway I'm sure most of you were in it so you could participate in the live streams and send me messages and all that kind of good stuff that's what most of you were up to all right let's see anyone got it up ultrabooks sock yeah okay ultra ebooks are cool however all right here we go here we go so let's get into what people think of this whole ultra book thing Zach says ultra ebooks are cool but I would much rather get a more substantial customizable laptop my response to Zach is this is the direction things are heading then whether we like it or not Apple has set this trend with MacBook Pro MacBook and MacBook Air that that's the direction notebooks are going I mean look at something like the razor blade if that's not like an Apple aluminum unibody sort of inspired design then I don't know what is you look at Asus Zenbook if that's not a MacBook Air inspired design and I don't know what is but anyway moving right along so Joseph Ben you're right thinnest part of it um other books overpriced sliminess st ah Nicholas okay so slim yes SSD not necessarily but I'll get into that in more detail later Joel says good quality good quality can be quantified in a lot of different ways um so again don't worry guys I'm gonna talk about this I'm gonna talk about this okay high battery life says Jordan fast small and lights as Derek ultrabooks our Intel laptops that are thin and light and good battery life Joe I love your picture this is the second time I've seen you on the Twitter feed I still need to know if that's actually you though because that's that's amazing that burger is well it's literally the size of a man's head okay battery life and thinness until I seriously psst integrated graphics ultrabooks suck not enough power okay Dom we're sorry 60 new interactions okay okay I'm just gonna take these 60 if you guys do want to participate in the whole like Twitter thing I need you guys to like be on the ball on your tweets because I can only read so many of them it's a little powerful battery life size and weight okay I'm looking for a few different things here guys that I'm not seeing yet because there's way more to Ultrabook than I actually understood myself but the we had one of Intel's field guys in today and he explained all the different aspects of things that Austin Austin you can watch the livestream after on the YouTube channel so I can't I can't I can't redo the whole thing just for you ultra books are nice I wouldn't buy one so yeah he explained all the different stuff that goes into it none of you are getting it which is which is awesome because I feel a little bit better about me not knowing what an ultra book was about okay so number one then then then form factor form factor is huge so depending on the screen size the diagonal screen size intel has different specs for how thick an ultrabook is allowed to be to still be an ultrabook okay so if you have a bigger screen size you're allowed a little bit more thickness and it can still be an ultrabook okay battery life honestly until isn't too stringent on battery life the requirement is 5 hours and that's that means five hours of like real 5 hours not like five hours of like you put it in hibernate and you try not to like go too close to it and it'll last for five hours you know five hours with Wi-Fi with using the computer of actual general usage and intel validates this stuff okay however the sort of the recommended what we're seeing more commonly is closer to around eight hours which is fantastic i mean eight hours is long enough that you can realistically use the computer and sort of an all-day type environment as long as you're putting it to sleep whenever you're not using it and then waking up when you are using it aha which leads us to another spec so a lot of you suggested that an SSD is a necessary part of the Ultrabook spec it is not an SSD is a great way to meet the Ultrabook spec because it'll mean that you can have a thinner form factor if you're using like an M SATA SSD it'll mean that your power consumption will be really low it'll run really cool it will also enable fast wake from sleep times and overall snappy performance so intel has a spec that says it can take no longer than seven seconds for an ultrabook to wake from sleep now when his name's Ben we're gonna have a couple episodes on the NCIX comm channel featuring him in the next next week or two so Ben point it out to me that with an SSD an ultrabook can typically and oh yeah boot boot times are are probably looked at as although it wasn't on the list of things that are and analyzed so the UEFI BIOS went very quickly the first time we booted it up and it booted up extremely quickly then when we put it to sleep and opened it up it took less than two steamboats less than two seconds to be fully functional when it was coming up from sleep so an SSD enables that however an SSD isn't the only way to do it you are allowed as a laptop manufacturer to implement a hybrid solution such as a hard drive with an SSD cache the SSD cache has to be at least 16 gigs and with that hybrid solution you can honestly with the hard drive you would just wouldn't be able to meet the spec Intel doesn't explicitly say you can't use a plain hard drive but what they do say is you have to adhere to this performance standard which rules out hard drives so with a hybrid drive you can meet that spec while not having the added extra expense of going with a straight SSD solution so something like a momentous XT or a separate 16 gig on an M SATA with a separate mechanical hard drive running in the shell these are solutions that the partners can implement so ok so there's a performance aspect it has to use a third generation Core i3 i5 or i7 processor I personally I wouldn't mind if they locked it down to just i5 and i7 I mean at the point where you're looking at low power i3 s they're not they're not going to deliver that that snappiness about performance connectivity an ultrabook must have a high-speed connectivity now until doesn't specify what that is but in practical terms it must have a USB 3 port and it or or sorry or it must have a thunderbolt port or both it has to have at least one though what are the other things with respect to connectivity is that I believe business class ultrabooks must have an Ethernet port they can't rely solely on Wi-Fi now all ultrabooks do have to have Wi-Fi which makes sense because none of them really have optical drives and if you had no Wi-Fi and this Ultrabook display portable device that actually you have to plug in every time you use it that would be stupid but that's an aside at this point moving along to some of the other things ultrabooks must have right they must have Intel's identity protection technology and they must have Intel's anti-theft technology you know we did a really cool tech tips about Intel anti-theft technology and I'm gonna give you guys I'm actually gonna give those of you who are who are subscribed to or not subscribe see I'm so used to being like a youtuber those of you who are following me on Twitter I am going to explain one of the most cryptic things that I have ever uploaded to the internet ever today so this was an image that I that I uploaded today and this is the crazy Russian for those of you who asked if that's like of course it isn't slick it's the Russian look how Russian he looks so that's him drawing an evil mustache on yours truly so the episode we shot today was really cool because we we had me steal Ben's ultra book yet I steal I mean I didn't keep it you know although maybe I should actually I couldn't know because I stole it I went to a nearby Starbucks where I could get on the Wi-Fi and then I gave him a call and we did kind of like a fake thing like it was kind of fun you're like a big I stole your ultra book and I'm going to log into your Facebook and I'm gonna message your grandmother and um and so Ben was like mol no - I'm gonna use my anti-theft technology which is built into the Ultrabook at a pre BIOS level so there's like there's like hardware and then there's like like bare metal firmware then there's BIOS which is programmable you can erase and and reflash it then there's your OS okay so it's built in at this level and what he was able to do and the subscription to McAfee service I think cost like 60 bucks a year or something like that what he was able to do is he was able to tell his ultrabook you can tell it a couple things you can tell it if you go too long without an internet connection shut off and lock you can also tell it next time you have network connectivity shut off lock you can't get around this three formatting the OS will not help reflashing the BIOS will not help once it's locked so once he locked it and I was sitting there I was able to show the screen to the camera and go okay there's a message from Ben this has been please return my laptop and you cannot boot the notebook no matter what you do which is very very cool so that is required as part of the ultrabooks back every ultra book must have that feature so if you pay for the service then you'll be able to we were even able to see where the ultra book was within about a couple block radius just using just using the IP address that it was that it that was registered to it when it was uh it was on the Wi-Fi so very very very cool stuff I'm just gonna see if there's anything else that I'm forgetting about the whole ultra book concept I don't think so I can see if there's any more any more tweets about ultra book and of course there's probably like 1 billion oh ok change the ultra book topic ok I'm sorry I'm sorry the ultra book topic isn't interesting for you something about Gangnam style okay we're not talking about that okay you guys aren't interested in ultra book fine be like that fine fine we'll move on to a new topic ok so my next actually you know what let's do it let's do a short Q&A and then I'll move on to move on to my next topic so I'm just gonna look for some of the stuff Dom why do retail shops say one or two gig graphics and not the specs of the cart because retail shops you know big-box retail guys who rely on the ignorance of their customers to make additional margin don't want to tell you any specs that will be helpful because from their perspective like ok this is a 2gig graphics card so from their perspective would they rather sell you so this this cost like 300 bucks ok so would they rather convince you that the cheapo graphics card that they have you know like let's say a GT 640 or something but they want to charge 150 bucks for would they rather convince you that that 2 gig card is as good as any other 2 gig card absolutely and because the customers walking into these places don't have the knowledge and the experience to know that the GPU the memory bus the amount of remember the speed of the memory in a type of a memory all of these things are way way more important than the amount of memory on a video card in fact for any low-end to mid-range card the amount of memory is actually almost totally meaningless because it doesn't have the GPU horsepower to back up that memory anyway so with that 2gig frame I mean okay you could take a GT 640 you could put a four gig frame buffer on it there's no reason you couldn't do it that card could potentially hold enough texture data in its frame buffer to power like a six monitor gaming setup but that GPU would only be able to run that set up at one frame per second so who cares can have all the memory at once it's totally irrelevant because it will be bottlenecked by the GPU power long before the memory amount even matters 640 could be a 512 Meg card it wouldn't even matter and the same thing goes for even high-end cards as well so something like a 660ti unless you're running surround you don't need more than 2 gigs if you are running surround all of a sudden more memory starts to matter because it has the GPU horsepower to back it up so it all comes down to resolution as well as how demanding the textures of the game are if you're running high res texture packs now we're talking about a completely different thing where memory could be the difference between chugging along at 10 FPS because it has to swap out to the system memory all the time and running at a smooth 30 40 FPS so there hopefully that addresses the topic of GPU memory once and for all let's go ahead and have a look at some of the newer tweets that came in once all 81 81 tweets okay so let's have a look at some of the people who tweeted sort of first here so these are two minutes does that mean you could also hack into the anti-theft thing to lock up someone's computer I guess in theory I don't know but that's actually been done yet alex is in a good mood cool story Alex building a web cam ultra an ultrabook with AMD CPUs would be great for portable gaming fantastic point Alex Wagner so I don't know if you guys saw my episode about amd's art rather two episodes on my NCIX tech tips channel about AMD's AP use so what we discovered is that as a cpu with dedicated graphics yeah it's semi competitive with core i3 like it does ok ok it does ok but it's not winning any awards however you you're using the onboard graphics it wipes the floor with not only a core i3 but a core i5 core i7 doesn't matter if you talk on board graphics versus onboard graphics apu destroys intel so an ultrabook with APU graphics would actually be fantastic for ultra portable gaming I am super excited though to see what Intel's Haswell brings to the table because Haswell is going to be very power efficient and they are going to be dramatically boosting up the performance of the GPU Derek says thank you for saying my name you're welcome again Derek David says I'd prefer GPS me too but it costs more to implement so what do you want me to say I'm sure that they could do it with GPS it's just that's not the requirement yet Troy - how can I stop my Galaxy S from discharging when I'm charging it and using it could I buy a different battery please Troy the only thing I can tell you is I get maybe a higher powered USB port if that's what you're charging it off of there are some motherboards that have like super powered like 3x powered USB ports that'll charge things faster just make sure you don't totally exceed the amount of current that's supposed to be used to charge that join Linus fan club what is this - fan club that is a bizarre thing sir I will create a facebook profile at some point but yeah I don't I don't necessarily think I need a fan club per se that's an awesome security feature what are your thoughts on sleek book haven't heard of sleek book unfortunately what is the hot but dupa dupa do would you see improved what do you think Kyle what's your favorite junk food my favorite junk food Lindor chocolates I love Lindor chocolates on the total girl when it comes to Lindor chocolates rephrase says did you know that raising a baby costs eighty thousand dollars okay I mean that's sort of an arbitrary number especially because anyone starting raising a baby now we'll still be raising a baby eighteen years from now which means that those numbers will be totally irrelevant because of inflation and whatever else but yeah that's cool okay uh Michael VAR pls pls for sure so pls is actually closer in terms of the technology to IPS than it is to a PBA or MBA however I was just made aware today on the new VA it's gonna be called H a VA or something like that you know what I'm gonna have to look this up but uh little dot CA H AV a panel no that might not be it BenQ a VA h VA shoot I'm boned I can't figure it out so so Ben Q has a new monitor coming that's using a new panel type that is not a pls it's not an IPS but it's similar in technology and they're super excited it's gonna have a hundred percent srgb color gamut it's going to have one 78 degree viewing angle so the spec looks very similar to what can be achieved with pls but right now based on what's actually available at this moment I'm a huge pls guy I love POS Cullen don't worry nothing happens to your warranty and 660ti power edition nothing happens and the side will still deal with it okay when can we expect something something what do you think of okay Yi wants to know what do you think of the future of LGA 2011 after ivy bridge-e will a new socket be introduced for haswell-e right now I don't think anyone knows for those of you who don't have the context for this question LGA 2011 is now two generations behind LGA 1155 in terms of the cpu architecture it is still using sandy bridge-e for I don't know enthusiasts workstation whatever Eastern's for so Sandy Bridge has been waiting pulled on Sandy Bridge no no sorry it's one generation behind and once Haswell launches on LGA 1155 it will be two generations behind so by the time it gets our refresh it'll be two behind so what does that mean so it means that in terms of instruction per clock it is behind so single threaded performance is actually lower on LGA 2011 and it is on 1155 in spite of 2011 being the enthusiast platform or enthusiasts happy about this I don't know personally as a 2011 user I wish I had an Ivy Bridge processor to drop in my system I wish that I you know had haswell-e to go into my system so that's the disadvantage of 2011 is we seem to be getting a bit of a short straw in terms of upgrades however the advantage of 2011 is that it's getting a much more advanced so much more robust overall architecture so 2011 when Ivy Bridge gets its refresh so right now okay so we had Sandy Bridge and sandy bridge-e LGA 2011 LGA 1155 then we got Ivy Bridge then on 11:55 this is 11:55 we're gonna get Haswell so until we'll have gone through two architectural changes then we're gonna get ivy bridge-e which will be sort of caught up but still a generation behind however LGA 1155 will not have more than four course intel's already said this they won't get more than four course 2011 already has six course if you're like me you render a lot of video six cores there's actually more important than a few more instructions per clock okay so once we get say ah once we get ivy bridge-e we're gonna get anywhere from 10 to 12 cores and these will be high performance course because there's no need to have a GPU core built in as for what happens in the future I hope we'll get as well but honestly I kind of doubt it however looking back at LGA 1366 so remember 1366 lasted throughout part of 775 you know some time five was still there on the low end when 1366 was a premium platform lasted through 1156 and was still relevant once we moved to 1155 if I recall correctly although I could be getting that mixed either way 1366 lessons from multiple mainstream sockets and there's no reason to believe that LGA 2011 won't last through multiple mainstream sockets it's got all those pins worst case scenario they might do a chipset refresh or something like that but they probably won't change the socket and I guess basically I don't really know nick says can i have a shout out please okay Nick you are shouted Ria's once no can you please tell me what should be the maximum temperature for overclocking a video card Ria's there isn't really a maximum temperature it depends on the card so unfortunately it's one of those questions that I know you've tweeted this at me a few times but I don't really have an answer most modern cards are good up to 90 95 degrees and they're actually designed to run like that however you can see what in television do you've been doing with the last couple of generations improving the power efficiency and improving the temperatures that they're probably not trying to have their GPUs run so hot anymore thank you Matt I'm doing well and I hope you are doing well as well ah yes Amir great question this is one of the other topics that I wanted to launch into so we're gonna go ahead and do that now why is Quad SLI a terrible idea for a gaming machine and I should clarify I'm a Mears question is actually not as terrible so he wants to know would you recommend two gtx 690 sr 4 gtx 680 s for extreme benchmarking easy answer for gtx 680 s the reason for that is they overclock better than 690 s although that's not as true anymore so you have to find ones that over bolt along the lines of that green light topic we were talking about earlier and just the fact that in terms of thermals you will be less limited because you can use better cooling on them by having them separated now forget extreme benchmarking I have a lot of people asked me about anything beyond two-way SLI so 3-way SLI four-way SLI they'll say hey is this a good deal a good idea should I get should I get dual 690 s should I get should I get quad 680 S or triple six 80s or else and whatever else okay so a few things so number one power consumption is going to go through the roof number two the actual officially actual performance you gain I did a great video about this the actual performance you gained from 3-way SLI oh shoot there we go three dash way SLI - let's try switching for that here so the actual performance you gain from through SLI from two-way SLI is actually very small you guys should check out this video that I did a while back so this was GT 690 versus 3-way 670 and yeah you should definitely check that out it's it's kind of an analysis of the scaling of these GPUs as well you don't get much in terms of performance now if you go okay Linus I don't care money is no object for me it doesn't matter I am willing to blow this money on these GPUs I want to have a great gaming experience I want the maximum FPS to which I would reply wrong you're wrong that's not what you want you do not just want maximum FPS there is more to gaming there is more to a high-end system than throwing more graphics cards into it so I see people and dual six 90s I guess is less ridiculous than triple and quadruple cards for this reason we've only got 7 expansion slots on even your highest end board something like an asrock extreme 11 where they actually manage to implement seven slots on the 2011 board that's your best-case scenario if you install three graphics cards nevermind for where there will be absolutely no slots left if you install three graphics cards on most motherboards you'll have no slots left over you'll have like a PCI slot or something stupid due to the way that they do the slot else if you have for graphics parts you'll have none so let's assume you have none where's your sound card where is your raid card where is your anything your HDMI capture card for streaming your gaming or you get your forecasting or whatever else most importantly where is your sound card anyone who thinks that sound is not an important aspect of gaming and is willing to compromise on the sound experience use their onboard sound instead of at or is willing to use that for the pleasure of putting in another graphics card to get another 10% 15% maybe 20% performance improvement is just wrong you're wrong because a huge part of a cinematic experience whether it's movies or games a huge part of your immersion is the sound experience why do you enjoy the movie theater why did you I mean let's okay not even today we're we've got digital production and great screens and most movie theaters let's go back 10 years ago when most movie theaters had like little pops and circles and sort of artifacts all over the screen were you going there to see the movie big yes were you going there to see the movie on like this pristine crystal-clear screen no you were going there to get absolutely rocked by there 20.2 surround system with huge subwoofers because it makes for a more immersive experience there is more to life than more graphics cards and more gamers need to realize this I've actually made a point of retweeting some of the tweets people have sent me - you talked me into buying a sound card holy crap I can't believe I ever listened to those people who said that a sound card doesn't make a difference get a real sound card get a proper headset get proper speakers you will thank me do not buy more graphics cards - graphics cards is pretty much enough here's another reason so people might respond to me - I need more graphics cards because I'm gonna run 6 monitors or I'm gonna run I'm gonna run 3 super high resolution displays wrong again the reason for that is that in SLI the graphics cards actually don't build on each other's memory if you have 2 2 gig graphics cards you have 2 gigs of beer in effectively if you have 2 3 gig graphics cards you have 3 gigs of graphics memory that is actually usable by your system if you have 4 3 gig graphics cards I know I'm emphasizing this a lot you have 3 gigs of addressable graphics memory which means that by the time you got to a resolution that would benefit from all these additional graphics cards in any meaningful way you're gonna run out of VRAM Oh which brings me back to actually 680 Quad SLI vs. 690 SLI so that's right that's why 6 now I forgot frame so 680 Quad SLI or triple SLI is terrible because you lose all of your expandability for your system fantastic and then Quad SLI with 6 90s is terrible because you have a 2 gig frame buffer way to go with your 2gig frame buffer which is not useful for anything higher than about 2560 by 1600 single display you're not going to be using a 2gig frame buffer to get an optimal experience on triple displays you'd probably be better off going with like dual six seven all right like dual 660ti three gigs or something like that actually no that's probably not fair I mean dual 684 gigs or something along those lines may actually be a better solution than two six 90s because of the limited VM so there that's my lecture on triple SLI Quad SLI and all those kinds of solutions that for 99.9% of people who aren't trying to do what whoopsie daisies where's my where's my Twitter there we go who aren't trying to do what Amir's talking about where you're just trying to set a benchmark record it doesn't make sense alright so now that I've done another topic why don't we do a little bit more what I'm gonna do a little bit more conversation Siddarth I actually don't know a mechanical keyboard with blue or brown switches that has a backlight I think ducky might have something but it's nothing that I've done I've ever actually used so I'm sorry I got nothing i got nothing huh this is funny alex great suggestion actually this is planned Alex writes in can't you do a giveaway where we have to make a nerd rage video and you judge them and pick the best one I haven't announced this in any way so this live stream will be the first time anyone's hearing about this but Corsair is actually sponsoring a contest I'm gonna have 5k 90 keyboards so these are like hundred plus dollar mechanical keyboards backlights macros the whole works Carey red switches I'm gonna have five of them to give away to the five best nerd rage videos however don't start working on your video now I can't emphasize this enough I'm going to have rules and requirements there have been fantastic videos that have been submitted for my video response contests in the past that have been disqualified because they didn't listen to the requirements okay you're gonna have to pay special close attention to what will be the judging requirements and I don't want to hear any complaining if you don't win because you didn't participate correctly however that giveaway is come probably I'll have a video up sometime in the next couple weeks so that's that's very exciting um CW any faults about the Nexus 7 Nexus 7 is a fantastic value have you guys heard about the price drop that's coming it's gonna be $1.99 for the 16 gig and they're introducing a 32 game holy crap like it makes it like the best value ever it has a Tegra 3 processor which is actually fast unlike well peg or two let's know if that fast GPU wise it was pretty good but CPU is honestly my Galaxy Tab 10.1 is kind of not not generating a great user experience for me these days Thank You Caleb his his name was big something else we got here do I get a lot of questions about this what power supply would you recommend this is sort of a general question so I'm gonna answer Dale specific question when I'm SSL eyeing gtx 660ti is i have 3 200 millimeter fans and maybe of course rh 100 or 150 dale you haven't given me nearly enough information if I'd read your entire tweet before I started reading it out loud I probably wouldn't have responded to this question because the information you're giving me is totally useless I know you have to 660ti s which means you need at least a 700 750 watt power supply however you haven't told me what CPU you have you haven't told me well anything else like are you running 10 hard drives in here are you gonna have a whole bunch of different power and peripherals running off the back of the USB are you going to have are you gonna be overclocking fans consume like nothing people who tell me like who asked me what power supply do I need and they tell me all the fans they're running in their system I'm like all those fans maybe like 2 watts out of your power supply totally irrelevant totally doesn't matter and same thing with a course RH 100 it doesn't really consume a significant amount of power so shout out to sofa America I almost said South Africa shout out to that too but you know um he soo says why do people mistake dear phones for headphones and vice versa I just wanted to get that point out there because it's annoying ok he's soo 272 new interactions you guys are killing me here you know what I'm gonna actually I'm gonna launch into a new topic here because 272 interactions is a fantastic point so we are gonna run through the math of why I cannot reply to every Twitter message I get since I started running the contest I have received more than 1,000 Twitter messages per day Twitter actually has a hard limit of 1,000 tweets that I can send out per day so that means if I sat there and typed at my computer and literally replied to a thousand messages I would actually get my account like I've run into it a few times in the last week they will just say you have reached your tweet limit you cannot tweet anymore okay aside from that they split up that thousand tweet limit into time chunks throughout the day so you can only do like a hundred at a time and you have to spread it out through the day so I don't even have the option of like lying in bed with my laptop and typing like this or sitting down and like hammering them away and trying to get caught up because Twitter's gonna get after me after I do a hundred tweets or so and say hey oh no it's okay wait a few hours and then you can tweet somewhere so for those of you who are who are upset that I wasn't able to reply to you or you're tweeting me and I'm not responding to you you know what I'm gonna do my best that's all I can do when I have some time I'm gonna fire up my phone I'm gonna fire my laptop I'm gonna I'm gonna hammer out some tweets but beyond that there's just nothing I can do the sheer volume of messages I receive like guys think about this okay go and read a tweet and then like reply to it and then time yourself now times a thousand every day I have a full-time job I have these videos I have a live stream when I do a live stream it's gonna completely wipe out my place where I was and it's going to absolutely destroy any progress I could have possibly made at catching up because in this live stream alone I've already received well over 600 tweets so I'm sorry guys I do my best it's all I can do it is not mathematically possible for me to reply to the tweets and that doesn't even get into the point that once I reply to a tweet that person usually tweets me back which means that what was a thousand tweets once I reply to them is probably gonna turn into more like 1500 once I have to reply a second time and then maybe even let's say half of those people again reply to me again so now every thousand tweets is actually probably more like 1,700 tweets by the time I'm actually done addressing the person's question so this is why I think I need a forum this is why I think I need a way for you guys to interact with each other and not just me because I will die speaking of which Twitter I mean if you guys want to sort of find anything at Linus tack and throw in your own answers that would be great that would actually be immensely helpful for me because I can't reply to them all on my own all right what else we got here tell you the boss says hey Linus how come you haven't posted a pic of your kids sitting in front of a PC yet I actually have taken one but you're right I haven't posted one yet I'll see if I can find it I'm not sure if I know where it is cuz my wife keeps track of all the baby pictures and all that Neuer says what do you think of a gtx 660 cuz i'm trying to build a gaming machine that isn't that expensive gtx 660 is a good option so is 7870 you should look into both of those i'm mix as I saw the a soos VG 2 you know what I'm not gonna read the tweet so I'm just gonna do this why am I doing this anything looks great what program does Diesel use beezly uses Adobe cs6 so everything you saw done previously by myself or by Slick was done using Vegas movie studio or whatever the cheap $100 option is because I'm super cheap so he's using a real editing software that he he brought his own copy of and that is one of the reasons that the NCIX tech tips episodes have had a higher standard of quality he's all he'll cinders how to use After Effects which is like voodoo magic to me so Phil great question there's really that nothing that's special about a 39 60 X compared to a 3930k it used to be that the extreme edition was somewhat justifiable because it was unlocked so you could break benchmarking records and if you'd like really wanted sort of the the e-peen of having an Extreme Edition and that was cool but a 3930k has a little bit less cash a little bit lower stop clock speed and other than that it actually overclocks exactly the same so we're talking performance within like 1% 2% of each other once you overclocked them both to the max so I've never recommended a 30 960 X to anyone people do buy them I mean by them it's sort of its coup yeah I mean go for it you want to be extreme by extreme edition but yeah it's not something that I've ever really recommended ah can you talk about micro stuttering you know what I can't talk about my christelle ring I don't see it um micro stuttering is one of those things that bothers all some people a lot more than it bothers other people it's like motion blur motion blur drives me nuts on monitors lots of people can't see it at all so Eric if I had to would I rather fight one horse-sized duck or a hundred duck-sized horses I think I could take the horses because I'm a lot taller than them and if they're the size of a duck I mean all they'd really be able to do is kick me in the ankles I've actually been kicked by a horse before and before the obvious joke that explains a lot table slapping you know that's a nice lap and joke right there uh before you make that joke it was a baby horse well not a baby she's a couple months old but my family we lived in the boondocks and we had we had ostriches and pigs and horses and all kinds of crazy stuff but we had a baby horse so so one of our horses we we bred her and she her baby's name was Trixie and Trixie and I had a little disagreement once about whether she was gonna walk with me or whether she was not gonna walk with me and she was gonna go off on her and do her own thing so I gave her though I gave her the business if you guys have horses you know you give them a little you pull down on their on their halter you kind of go look no you get them to bring their head down the head down is a submissive posture for a horse so you're forcing them a little bit okay no look you're gonna be submissive it doesn't matter what you think about this so when they put their heads up you know in rear up that's that's aggressive okay so she surprised me and she pulled away really quickly and then she started doing that whole like bucking bronco like up and down and up and down thing and she was you know going up on her front legs and kicking her back legs out behind her and she actually nailed me right in the head so uh she got me right about here and there's unlucky unlucky there's no scar cuz it did bleed she got me pretty good I actually this is one of the two times in my life that I have that I have seen my entire vision just like I'm gonna simulate it I've seen my vision just start to okay wow look this thing whatever it starts to go wow this thing gets light even if I cover it completely okay whatever that's the only two times in my life that my vision has actually gone okay come on focus focus focus you got this but man that my vision has gone black so one of them was when I had blood drawn for me when I was super super sick and I just felt passed out on top of the nurse and accidentally of course and then the other time was when I got kicked by this horse well what happened was I was like I was standing on my feet she kicked me in the head I blacked out and then I came to in time to hit the ground and luckily I wasn't hurt but man was I ever mad so basically she got the old you know grab her again no pull down gave her the old smack them smack on the butt no you're not allowed to do that she seemed sort of genuinely sorry about it but you can never tell the horses they're a they're a crafty Bunch so yeah that's uh that's that's my story about fighting horses and the time that I got got kicked in the head by a horse Linda and someone's already asked that sorry dude they're their lower-grade panels so they're cheaper there you go and err have the suggestions to use I hear the suggestions to use Facebook instead of Twitter in order to get around the limit it's like guys the point is I can't reply to a thousand plus messages a day not so much just the physical impossibility of it but the fact that I just can't do it it's just not it's just not possible Christian I have a question why will the number pad on my razer naga not work there's a switch on the bottom Christian in all likelihood you haven't switched to the wrong thing so that would be my guess I could be wrong though I mean there's always the crazy thought you could contact Razer and see if they have any thoughts but as possible it's defective so they'd be the best ones to talk to you about something like that ah mizuha wants to know what would I recommend a sabertooth z77 or the new motherboard from the Messiah the Big Bang mPower honestly either there were great options so a soos backs it up with a five-year warranty which is cool awesome and then MSI has a three year warranty but there had testing every single board in an overclock scenario so I don't know you decide which of those two things is more important to you and then like go for it they're both absolutely fantastic options alright Brandon there we go fantastic question when does a motherboard really affect with an a Brandon really affect performance ah the answer is sort of complicated so there's a lot of ways that a motherboard can affect performance so in terms of the features that it delivers so a Seuss's implementation of USB 3 for example as far as I can tell is superior to what I've seen from other guys you'll get faster performance regardless of you know which I'm gonna see if I've got one in my pocket you know regardless of which USB 3 device you're using or whatever the case may be you will get better performance from an Asus chipset from an Asus board using their as media chipset and there you ASPR their turbo modes so that's one of the ways the motherboard can affect performance it can affect performance in terms of just what features it has enabled so if you want to run dual graphics SLI crossfire you better get a motherboard that supports it otherwise you won't get that performance because you can't install those things so there's that it can affect overclocking which means like if you have a better power delivery system it runs cooler you're gonna get slightly better overclocking results BIOS optimization is another way that the motherboard can affect performance and overclocking so the better they program the BIOS the better the power delivery is the better it is however it's not the way it used to be it used to be back in the socket 478 days back in the socket a days but you could actually like Gaming benchmarks on one motherboard versus another motherboard and you might see a 10% spread in terms of performance which these days totally unheard if it doesn't happen anymore that's at the same speed at the same frequency that's what I'm talking about and that was because of the way that the manufacturers were designing the board I mean they were they were doing so much more work at the BIOS level because they had to optimize for the communication from the FSB between this over the FSB between the CPU and the chipset and then from the chipset to everything else including the RAM the second that the integrated memory controller came along with the Athlon 64 the second that the memory controller was taken off the chipset all of a sudden there was less differentiation in terms of performance because there was nothing that motherboard manufacturers could really do besides routing the traces really cleanly to the memory banks that would affect the way that the performance was going to play out because it was no longer being relayed by anything there was no like tweaking they could do to this chipset there's just this integrated memory controller still right into the CPU so there's that and I mean even then though you know PCI Express AGP these were features that could differentiate boards you know better implementations of the graphics ports with something whereas now especially on the Intel platform even PCI Express Lanes are implemented at the CPU level so what's not implemented the CPU level now there's a few things so there's USB 3 which is on the south bridge there's SATA which is on the South Bridge so really anything that's built into the CPU there's not much the motherboard manufacturers can do about it besides helping you tweak more overclocking speed out of it everything else now okay so yeah onboard graphics was another way that motherboard manufacturers could differentiate now that's built onto the cpu too so really there's not there's not a whole lot left they can build in you know things like sass functionality like gigabyte sent with the xix 79 SU p5 things like thunderbolt so a connectivity more USB 3 ports better USB 3 implementations better sound implementations such as a soos is done with the Maximus 5 formula these are the ways that these motherboard guys can really differentiate from each other but in terms of performance you sit down you play a game performance there's not much of a delta anywhere um oh dude do you have to you have to have that twitter name it's like I hardly even want to reply to your message but what reason would make you end your YouTube career um good question I guess I haven't really thought about it I have zero intention of stopping making videos on YouTube if anything I feel rejuvenated these days because it was it was a huge milestone for me to hit that like just huge I cannot express how awesome it was to hit that 200,000 subscriber milestone I mean back when I started doing this I would look at guys with 50,000 subscribers or a hundred thousand subscribers and I'd be like wow that is amazing if I can ever get there I will be so grateful and I'll be so happy and and I and I'm there now and I mean now I'm looking for the next I'm looking for the next level I'm looking for 500,000 I'm looking for a million I mean it's always about taking it to the next level and it was it was just really exciting to get to one of those milestones that I'd really set for myself one of the first milestones that got me really excited was the day that time this goes back to a Logan because he I think he was still on the project at the time but the day that I passed tigerdirectblog for the number of subscribers as well they've still got more views by a long shot but but it's it's it's fun it's friendly competition I mean I have nothing against any of those other YouTube guys it's just it's kind of fun to play that game so speaking of that game one of the things that's also rejuvenated me lately is check this out so since I hit that 200,000 subscriber mark not only has it not slowed down so this is social blade I know this isn't the best one did stats axe is sort of better but this gives me I'm just used to the interface here so check this out guys so before I hit the 200,000 subscriber mark so you can see here this is my total number of subscribers in this column I was averaging kind of 300 subscribers a day this is an anomaly I think YouTube was doing a correction when I hit that mark all of a sudden whether it's people spreading the word more whether it's you guys support me and you know telling your friends to subscribe to Linus tech tips whether it's people who just see that 200,000 number and it feels more credible to them or whatever has happened over the last little while I've been absolutely overwhelmed with the additional support on averaging more like a growth rate of 400 450 per day which is gives me all the encouragement that I need to keep the project going no matter no matter what so I want to keep talking tack with you guys I want to keep producing videos in fact who knows maybe sometime in the next few months you might see me even rent things up to a completely new level spoiler alert stay tuned I can't give any more details than that right now so don't even ask what do we got let's go back to let's go back to Twitter shall we actually you know what no we're not gonna go back to Twitter yeah I'm gonna have a look and see if there's any of the other topics that I wanted to cover so why four-way SLI is a bad idea ah this this is something where I actually don't have the answer for you guys but this is the most confusing thing in the world to me so we're gonna go on a little voyage of discovery here and I'm gonna talk about what exactly is the cost structure of displays so I'll look at I'll be back I'll be back in like two seconds I just have to go get something all right so the prices of displace what sort of prompted me to think about this was the fact that one of my buddies pointed out to me that he saw a 40 inch TV that was in the neighborhood of like 400 or 450 bucks 1080p TV you know what I'm gonna see if I can find it 1080p and then TV sorry I'm just I'm checking on the NCIX website here this okay so 40 inch TV I'm just gonna copy this - okay maybe you guys can help me figure this out because frankly I don't get it so we're gonna switch to this view here gonna go ahead and we're gonna pull up a 40 inch TV okay paste okay here's a 40 inch TV Toshiba LCD TV I can tell you right now there's no such thing as a TN panel TV so this is some kind of a VA or something it's not a TN panel it is $400 a 40 inch TV is $400 okay so why is it that a 40 inch TV at 1080p resolution okay bear with me here guys isn't because it's been gonna go on sort of a wild ride here why is it that a 40 inch TV at a 1080p resolution costs more than a 1080p I'm breaking everything 1080p LCD v a so let's look for let's look for a VA panel okay so here's a 27-inch that's an AMD a LED backlit okay it's got LED backlights whatever so why does it cost more I can tell you the answer it's much larger okay got it so larger costs more actually where was I going with this something to do with large and pixel density and something something something right right okay so a much larger TV cost mark okay so now let's let's scale things back down again and let look at let's look at pixel density so when we get to pixel density all of a sudden the smaller something is the more it costs because it's more difficult to manufacture so tell me something if a bigger device that inherently has lower pixel density and a smaller device this monitor I showed you guys before this is like in the same price range it's on super discount now but generally speaking it's a $400 so if these two things cost the same thing in cost the same in spite of the same resolution why is it that this device which actually is a 10 inch panel so in terms of the actual size difference it's like a similar ratio going from like a 40 inch TV to a 27 inch LCD why is it that this doesn't cost the same even though the pixel density is actually significantly higher this is also a 1080p panel if I recall correctly this is a transformer TF 700 so here's my question to you what is actually affected how is it that we can produce a 40 inch TV which is vastly bigger for the same price as this LCD and we can't produce you know what I had a whole thing sort of in my mind about this and I sort of just totally lost my train of thought so I'm going to give up on this topic but the point is generally what effects it is it sighs is it pixel density I can't quite figure it out because it doesn't seem to it doesn't seem like the cost scales proportionally when we increase the size and then it doesn't seem like the cost scales proportionally when we decrease the pix pixel density or increase the pixel density or whatever else the case may be I mean did you know that iPad Retina display replacement IPS panels actually only cost like a hundred bucks if you buy them from almost like laptop repair or screen repair or something com I give up on this topic I'm sorry it's actually getting kind of late and I'm kind of tired so we're gonna move into something else and this is something that I really did want to talk about Paul's hardware and awesomesauce news are two new YouTube channels that you guys should totally subscribe to if you're not already subscribed to raise the world so I'm gonna just I'm gonna bring up all of these YouTube channels dot here and raise the world okay so this is one of them so this is Logan's Channel from tech syndicate so he is actually growing pretty fast and things are going pretty well over there awesomesauce news is Kyle from that horrible horrible store in the US so he's uh he's doing he's doing his own sort of vlog e style videos and then I wish him well but I think he's only got like a hundred subscribers or something like that see there he is look how sexy he is okay and then finally we have actually this one I haven't seen what Paul's up to but Paul's hardware is another channel that you guys probably want to check out if you enjoy what I'm doing then you're probably gonna enjoy what what these guys are doing here so Paul only has one video he's already produced only half as many videos as Kyle's so yeah way to go way to go Paul I hope you're watching Wow look at this 43 dislikes and 0 dislikes just for that I'm gonna I'm gonna like the video so he now has I don't know bank share it with your friends I've actually never liked a video on YouTube to be perfectly honest I'm not much of a YouTube watcher I'm just more of a YouTube maker what other topics do we have comedy I guess I've had a lot of people ask me about my new gear that's coming so if you're not familiar with my new gear conversation I blew over 10 grand on new gear so I have an fs700 camera coming which is gonna be awesome we'll be able to shoot video realistically at 240 FPS if we need something extremely extremely high-speed it can do up to 960 fps and here's like like just I have all these ideas in my head of stuff we can do with this like all of a sudden we'll be able to empirically evaluate the performance in terms of input lag on an LCD monitor because all we'll have to do is take a microphone put it next to a mouse and go like this hit it so you take a video all the LCD monitor guess you could you could put the mouse in there as well and then all you have to do is sync up with the sound it made when you tap the mouse and you'll have to have the microphone link right next to it we don't want the delay of the sound causing any ill effects actually you know you should probably keep the mouse in the shot so you can really see that point of contact and we should be able to in theory get down to the exact frame at 960 fps okay 960 fps the exact frame where we touched the mouse then we can count how many frames until the monitor responds and I don't know if this is gonna work maybe it's totally stupid maybe 960 fps isn't enough but I'm super excited to try it out so I'm thinking if we have like a CRT on one side and an LCD on the other side we can just try it and see like how much if we take like a su says 144 Hertz LCD and put that next to a CRT how much of a difference is there are the CRT diehards missing out by avoiding LCD or are they still right is it still the fastest way to gain so so that's something that's super exciting so my new gear is coming next week ah so I've got HDMI capture cards coming which means I won't have to use this webcam anymore I've got a new microphone coming I've got a new tripod coming new lights all kinds of crazy stuff so I'm not gonna look all pale and ghostly like this unless I do look pale and ghostly like this in which case you know sorry dudes that means I just don't know how to use this gear that I you know blew a bunch of money on which would be a very sad thing indeed very sad thing indeed 247 new interactions ok so we're gonna try and do a little a couple a couple more cuties and then I think oh you know what before we do more Q&A let's do the giveaway announcement nimble will finish up with a little bit of Q&A so I received and I've got my notes here you know what I'll just let you guys go through the notes go through the notes with me so first I want to say the winner and I hope you're watching I was my original plan was to have it be so that only someone who is watching could win but I realized you know what that's not really fair I mean anyone who does a draw does a draw and then you get in touch with the person who won before I okay before I announce the winner I want a little bit about the format of a contest the format of the contest was wrong my original idea was that the first one to complete the task should win however I made some mistakes in the task that made it so I couldn't really do it that way so I required people to format and punctuate the secret phrase which they had to jump around to different videos and check out and discover and then ungentle so the secret phrase I had them format I want but from the format exactly the way I did unfortunately I formatted it incorrectly so the secret phrase was I finished the quest where's my swag and I had a period on the word quest and I was missing a question mark on the word swag what I also didn't realize when I was creating the challenge was that I finished my quest weres the swag would also be a correct way to solve the puzzle so instead of taking the first person who replied exactly the way that I had it written which took I mean there were over a hundred correct sort of correct like not what I had in mind but correct responses where they added a question mark or they they switched around the the and the my before the one who formatted it the way that I had wanted in my head for it to be formatted and I didn't think it was fair to do it that way so what I did is I took all the people that did answer it correctly I dropped them all in Excel them and generated a random number and the winner is can I get a drumroll can everybody drumroll please Bernard Yip so that's your email address I'll email you if you're okay okay we have to go okay we have to go to Twitter though so there's some notes here I'm going to go to Twitter after Bernard if you're on Twitter please message me or email me again I can have a look at my email on the other screen let me know if you're watching I hope you're watching and I hope you're excited because you are going to be the proud owner of a geforce gtx 660ti whoa and the shipping is free don't worry about it I'll cover the shipping even though it's expensive do you guys have any idea how much it cost me to ship the Duke Nukem the Duke Nukem Nvidia price which was a GTX 580 I think 480 something like that 580 3d vision monitor and a copy of Duke Nukem $500 it costs to ship that to the winner $500 un-freakin'-believable um so anyway okay I'm gonna have a look at my email over here and in the meantime so yeah okay these were all my notes for everything I wanted to talk about so I accepted any of those answers so with or without punctuation and with bhuvah and the my switched around I did end up requiring the period because there were already so many people that did have the period in there that's but yeah it ended up having to work that way now the way that I'm gonna do it next time in order to make it more fair especially for people in other time zones I feel for you guys is I am going to leave it for a couple days maybe two or three days I might have a longer treasure hunt so that's more difficult but then what I'll do is I'll give you guys a couple days and then I'll have everyone submit and then I will do a random draw and I'll make that very clear from the beginning I'm sorry that this wasn't better organized and yeah so so you know hey congratulations to the winner and I don't see an email from him yet but you know hopefully he'll get in touch soon and thank you guys so much for participating it's just been awesome and I think that wraps it up for the giveaway we've got six minutes left so let's do some more QA and that is the most terrifying thing that I think I've seen today that that is that is horrible dude he says I think I've made the best t-shirt ever and by best t-shirt I think he means the t-shirt that will like get him kicked out of places that's awful I'm gonna go ahead and favorite that that's terrific all right Daniel talk about non reference graphics cards and fully custom liquid cooling what happened to person like seventy-nine build Daniel I had an update on the X 79 bill not a week ago so I'm still working on it I'm hoping to get it done in this calendar year talking about non reference graphics cards and fully custom liquid cooling unless you have a manufacturer in mind that has already made a water block for your non reference card if you want a water cooler card get a reference card because it's very different difficult these days to water cool a video card without a full cover block and full cover blocks do not work on non-compatible cards so it just doesn't work that way esteban what would you recommend gigabyte next 79s up5 Wi-Fi or whatever or whatever okay or asrock x79 extreme 9x 79 su p5 that I mean asking me that is kind of like asking me what would you recommend the motherboard that you're using that you're using which is that's the motherboard I'm using or some other motherboard asrock is not one of my preferred motherboard manufacturers so I I prefer a susanna Messiaen gigabyte so I would definitely go with the gigabyte option there Markus if you were to build an LGA 1155 PC today what mother wouldn't CPU would you choose you know what great question but there's a lot of different answers and I'm gonna tie this into what one of the other guys here asked I saw something about talking about ITX gaming if I was gonna build an LGA 1155 PC I would want to take advantage of the fact that it can fit in a very small form factor so I'd probably go with something like in ASU's p8z 77 i deluxe okay so there's a z77 ITX board then I'd go with something like an external sound card like you know what I don't have it next to me anymore so you can't use the onboard sound on that it's terrible but well it's not terrible that it's not it's onboard sound so I've used some kind of external USB DAC and has a headphone amp and all that kind of stuff so I'd do that and then I'd probably go with a 35 70 K because I'm assuming this is for like a portable gaming machine and then I'd throw probably something like a 660ti in there so hey Bernard there's my recommendation for what you do with this card and then in terms of case I'd probably go with either that coolermaster one that I just unboxed the Elite 120 I think it's called or I'd go with a silverstone FTO 3 which is a sweet sweet case the mini one the mini one FTO 3 mini Joel what do you like so much about the TJ o7 it looks like it's showing its age to me something that is timeless and classic doesn't age at ejo 7 ages like like a fine wine or like a perfectly cut steak it is showing its age in terms of features which I can fix I can cut cable management holes I can throw in mounting for whatever it is I need to put in it but you cannot fix beautiful design and I love the unibody shape I love the size the efficiency of the size I mean a cosmos to actually can't fit anymore water-cooling crap Benanti jo7 i mean maybe a little bit more but when you look at the difference in size it's the efficiency of the layout of the internals that makes the TGF 7 so appealing you can fit all this water-cooling crap in there and it's still not that big like it's big but it's not that big um brian is there a sound card you can recommend for a balance between gaming music enjoyment honestly anything from the asus line the sonar line is gonna be awesome if you're using headphones get one with a headphone amp if you're using speakers get one that doesn't have a headphone amp because it doesn't matter and then as for a balance between gaming and music enjoyment good sound is good sound i've always taken that philosophy about it maybe to the most extreme of audio files there will be some difference between a gaming optimized sound card and a music optimized sound card but the reality of it is if it produces clear sound you know deep bass rich mids clear highs if it does all those things it'll be great for games it'll be great for movies and it will be great for music did I say movies or music whatever all three alright one more minute left so I am going to take the next tweet the tweet that's at the top sort of gonna be my thing where I take like the top tweet I'm gonna click it now Michael great question Michael this is a fantastic question why do TVs have 240 Hertz plus and not monitors fantastic question Michael TVs are doing this ok this is your leg this is them pulling it your 960 Hertz or 480 Hertz clear motion or whatever it is they're doing on the TV is not a 960 hertz panel it doesn't work that way you are not actually seeing 960 or let's use your example so your example is 240 you are not seeing 240 image refreshes every second HDMI is not even remotely capable of carrying that kind of bandwidth even the new revised HDMI is not capable of carrying more than 1080p 120 frames per second that's the one with the faster processors on either end and whatever 1.4 a or something like that who cares HDMI sucks but what they're doing is they are not just refreshing the image so let's say here's your motion ok so something's moving across the screen like this these are your frames ok so instead of just doing this so let's say let's say we've got 4 frames 1 2 3 4 to show you the motion in between each of those frames they are flickering the backlight and that plays a trick on your eye that makes so if they go to flicks and one frame two flicks and one frame two flicks one frame it plays a trick with your eye that makes the motion look smoother but also has sort of a strange effect that makes it look unnaturally smooth to some people so when you see someone saying this is a 240 Hertz TV or 480 Hertz TV they are referring to the modulation of the backlight not to the refresh rate of the actual LCD panel so that's a really important clarification that's why there were so many 120 Hertz TVs out there that people were talking about or they wanted to buy or they were even mistakingly buying with the intention of running 3d vision or something with their graphics card getting in a middleware driver and they're trying to do this only to realize that they're 120 Hertz TV was only a 60 Hertz panel it wasn't even capable of displaying a left and a right image at 60 Hertz for each eye with 3d glasses so fantastic question and thank you very much for asking it thank you guys so much for participating those of you who are here live and don't forget to subscribe okay anyone who's here is probably already subscribed to his tech tips I I think if you're not already following on Twitter make sure you follow I know that I'm not able to address it like look there's a hundred more interactions now guys sorry there's nothing I can do but um I know I'm not able to address all the questions but I do do my best I do try and there's a chance that you'll get through and sorry you know think of it kind of like calling into a radio show you know there's a chance you'll get through and then what I really need is like four operators like got out there like filtering these and sending me all the best questions but I'm just one guy right now so yeah thanks so much here's to uh you know I wish I had a glass but I'll settle for I'll settle I'll settle for this here's to two hundred thousand subscribers and here's to two hundred thousand more and thank you guys for being with me every step of the way and good night
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