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and I think we're live it's Friday again which means time for another livestream today it's gonna actually be a pretty fun one I'm just gonna go ahead and my Wi-Fi why is this off so you guys might remember dr. Zaber maker of the original century this like super small basically console sized case that was able to hold a shockingly powerful system inside it and they actually reached out to us just kind of randomly what about a week ago or something like that Jake does that sound right I think it was about a week or two ago anyway they're following it up with a century 2.0 and we figured yeah be a lot of fun for us to do a build in it so we actually posted a poll on YouTube for members only like channel members and asked them if we should do our build in the like classical gray version of the chassis or if we should use the black one instead and they said to go with the black one I have my doubts though because I think a lot of them thought it was Silver's based on the picture but actually it's got this delightfully kind of retro gray computer look to it that I personally really like and no we're just doing the black all right can you take those can take the gray one there all right thank you never mind we're just gonna do the gray one also what is this DHL thing I have no idea Oh new o-rings all right so I have not looked at this at all I am going in completely cold here and I'm gonna do my best to do a super sweet super small build that is extra powerful so in terms of hardware we're going with an 8700 K because that's what we had lying around all of our ninety seven hundred and ninety nine hundred KS are presumably ocupado right now and then we're going with a Titan RT X for our graphics card we're gonna see if this thing can handle it and then oh wow they have stepped up their packaging game quite a lot that is pretty cool so they still include this little stand if you want to set it up vertically I wonder if they've also improved the rubber feet here they still come off but it would be hard for it to happen by accident now which is nice and oh they're uh they're kind of a harder rubber so they don't like kind of grip too much and come off there either actually they seem quite they seem quite a lot better okay it's almost like they've had a couple of years to uh to refine their design they're you know cool alright so now what else we got in here they include a screwdriver oh well it's torques the security torques do you really need security Torx screws to put your computer together all right we've got a PCI Express 16 X riser we've got a PCI Express 16 X extender so presumably we are going to both rise and extend a little something like that I don't know which cameras should be holding this up to but whatever there you go else we got here hey this is almost like doing an unboxing isn't it it's fun I'm having fun speaking of fun oh right this video is brought to you by P I I actually didn't even think about doing the sponsor spot until I said speaking of I was gonna do something else entirely our private Internet access is the VPN for you just head out head to LMD GG / what is it Jake P IA I know P ia when works so why don't you go ahead and do 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industrial nough Sun it looks to me okay to me not everyone's gonna like it but it looks to me really clean and I'm actually a pretty big fan so I'm gonna put those there and hopefully not drop them I'm gonna put these here and I'm going to worry that I actually don't see any instructions so they did a really good job of safely packaging everything but these kinds of cases generally are a little bit more on the complicated side to put together and I guess I'm just gonna be guessing here oh thank you Jake that is so nice see to all you people who were saying that he was useless and annoying and obnoxious and loud and his voice socks and his hair socks and oh my voice sorry sorry okay so that I got one wrong so to all of you people who were saying all of those things shame on you he clearly has his uses who else would have brought me this magnetic parts tray I'm just kidding you guys got it understand like Jake does all kinds of stuff around here that you probably wouldn't expect I mean we needed like something altered for our security for the building and he was like custom fabbing up a thing and he's actually very very a very important member of the team anyone who still works here is a very important member of the team because they weren't they wouldn't that's kind of that's how business works it's business time you know all right so there's our top it looks like they are still doing this apparently in original this was for thermal reasons but it's like do you have a way of indicating to me what angle we're working with here Jake or David if you cuz if you can like throw something at David so he knows he doesn't have to hold still and like maintain focus then it would be really nice for him he's walking away he's just leaving he's done he's gone he's gone so they said that this here is for like thermal reasons or like air flow reasons it's to keep from having like a dead zone here where warm air just kind of sits there I don't know that I was ever super convinced but that was that important but apparently it made it into rev too so they're they're sticking with their story and then Wow other than that it's just it's just empty so our graphics card is gonna go right about yeah and our motherboard is gonna go about yeah it looks like they've moved the power supply since last time I want to say I even I'm not even sure where that goes right now and all right that's just that's just coming off so that's a thing ah yeah I do I do actually wish they had some some documentation included in the box but you know what we're going for it we are we are straight yoloing it and newest manual on their website it says on the side apparently of the box all right well I will I will go I will probably end up having to look at that because this is a bit complicated first why don't we go ahead and do the things that we can do so we got our motherboard got our CPU just check my positioning here take what angle are we on yeah yeah okay Sabre comm Weber comm dot PL slash century all right all right okay all right I could have read the box all right all right rubbing it in I swear he has redeeming qualities you guys I swear I swear it's true it's true story heard it from a friend of a friend of mine okay who was it it was Jake no he's he's the one spreading all the propaganda all right we're gonna go with Noctua for our cooler today super simple cooler to install I actually love this thing what's the l9 I all right love it now it's not the highest performance cooler on the Block by any stretch of the imagination but it's just for simple screws that bolt through from the back and it does a pretty good job for its size although I wouldn't expect to be overclocking this 8700 K at all I would expect to get you know pretty much close to full turbo but maybe not even that it's gonna come down really to our graphics card anyway though we're gonna do some maybe do some 4k gaming something like that all right so we're gonna check orientation here go ahead and plug this into our CPU fan header are you going to switch to the overhead at any point Jake yeah I'm building the computer look guys I I swear I swear he he's she's really good he's really good at the things that he does that are good did you grab that m dot too by the way Jack ooh did you grab that m dot - from upstairs oh no are we not doing that anymore okay this one has games on it now you didn't do it did you can you grab the end dot - look guys I swear I swear he's the best part is like oops the best part is like Jake's parents watch our videos sometimes like especially if he's in them or like helping run them or whatever else it's great so they definitely read the comments man honestly I wish more coolers installed like this I understand why with some of the bulky ones it doesn't necessarily make a ton of sense because then you're you've got like this gigantic power on the other side of the motherboard that you're you know trying to put down or whatever like it yeah I understand the challenges but like that is so quick it's so clean it's awesome now I'm just gonna grab my I love ITX boards just something about the density just gets me excited cuz you know when I first got into PC building like you wanted a high-performance system it was in like some gigantic friggin Tower it sounded like a hairdryer and now there's just so much performance on this tiny little form factor you got your eight pin power for these high-performance CPUs you got your USB 3.1 gen2 connector for your fancy USB 3 front panels you've got a regular USB 3.0 clasp like style connector you've got four SATA you've got PCIe 16x you've got two m dot 2 s one on the front one on the back they've taken to putting em got two slots on the back of your motherboard now which is madness I don't know it's just it's just awesome hey Jake do you know if this board support no I bet it doesn't this is a z3 70 but they've even got those new dims now that's are up to 16 gigs unbuffered for like small form-factor systems like this hey Jake I had put my iFixit kit here do you know what happened to it oh you cleared it from the table yeah it's still in top down you could just like switch whenever I mean you know we've got a live operator just you know well no don't make a loud noise I just mean I don't know just just like switch between them you know just you know for fun you know to make it dynamic you know we're switching all right all right okay well then then just change the top down all right I think we really need to do a video exploring these uh these MDOT two heat sinks just cause like I know that I know that other people have looked into them but there's so many different types of them out there but I do wonder if you know some of them work better than others if they just all completely don't work at all like I've seen some pretty crazy stuff I think it's a gigabyte I want to say it's either gigabyte or MSI one of them with one of their boards must have an MSI actually included this like GPU frickin sized thing with this giant cooler on it that was a quad MDOT two PCI Express 16x card and I'm just like I look at something like that and I go like is there a performance advantage here why are we doing this I got to know I got to imagine that just kind of putting a hunk of metal on top of it like this one that doesn't dramatically increase the surface area I got to imagine that probably doesn't help much but you gotta remember to there's different kinds of like thermal solutions there's the kind that's designed to dissipate heat which if you have a giant molten like many finned heat sink like this that's obviously that kind and then you've got the kind that's just designed to absorb heat where if you had like a bursty load for example where all of a sudden you're you're writing a bunch of data to it and then five minutes later it's over this heatsink could help absorb that extra heat and then dissipate it later once the drive activity slows down a little bit so it could help us kind of like a heat buffer even if it doesn't increase thermal dissipation a whole heck of a lot so I don't know it seems like it's kind of a complicated thing to try to properly answer so I don't know how we would develop a test that would get all these different scenarios but you know part of me wants to say well all the manufacturers keep they keep putting these you know heat sinks on them so there must be a reason but then we've seen stuff that they do like putting cooling back plates on the back of graphics cards that don't actually do anything so hey Jake where did you get this motherboard from oh okay it doesn't have an i/o shield okay so that's a little unfortunate it is B 3388 and it does not have an i/o shield you might just have to live without the i/o shield here folks because I don't think we're going to be able to this is this is the beauty of life you know this is what's beautiful about live no I oh she'll look at that is that beautiful or what I'm gonna go with and or what yeah I puked a little too I'm sorry you guys that's okay I'm over it now all right so I'm not gonna be using my Phillips head screwdriver to install my motherboard instead I will be using security Torx what is up with that you guys that's so weird dr. Zaber yeah you just I just don't get it I'm not gonna put in too many screws here though cuz right now I'm just kind of mapping out where things go I suspect I still have a fair number of things to install for the case itself like for example this so we got to put our power connector in oh oh that's funny I kind of accidentally did that right I guess because it looks like before I can even put this in I'm going to have to put in that motherboard screw because I'm not actually gonna be able to can you switch to overhead you gotta be dead can you pay attention please thank you oh this is actually really complicated so when this isn't here you can't really get at the bottom of the back thing or with the motherboard in you can't really get at the bottom of the back like right in there and then with this in you can't really get at this motherboard screw so that's kind of the challenge of these hyper compact systems I guess interesting well one thing I know we need for sure oh this is a Phillips head oh lordy this is going to get worse before it gets better so I'm gonna assume that we're using a Phillips head for this ground here I'm just gonna go get our ground attached to the case there we go and then we're going to try to put our power plugs so because the power supply is going to be installed probably over here in the case we're gonna have to run this extension like this in order to actually plug our power supply into the wall now in terms of the way it's intended to go into this there's a really weird gap here made this Tesla see that though there's like a big there's a big little gap well I don't I don't know like all right let's see oh wow the the Torx screws and the Phillips ones are all threaded the same so you have no way of knowing which ones which unless you just look at the manual which I think we all knew wasn't gonna be happening here dang it you guys okay so that's on I'm probably doing everything wrong Jake you got to tell me if the comments are helping me all right all right are they are they trying to be helpful take that Elon thank you thank you YouTube comments you guys fully meet my expectations the IO shield is in the desc what pull the cord through the hole oh [Laughter] that is it hey I knew we were streaming this live for a reason nice that's great are we on David or overhead right now yes what's the David that is fantastic ha shoot guys are great what a tremendous idea and then I think what we're gonna do is we're gonna use black screws for that one we're going to assume that the black ones are for external stuff so this is gonna go through here there we go that explains it gorgeous now it's still really hard to screw this in well it's in so I am gonna put the motherboard let's screw in the corner here in first but now I think we can successfully install all three or four screws that we have to deal with in this tiny little corner here I'm also gonna do that ground wire now cool I'm having fun actually really really like small cases I don't know how well they actually sell though that's the thing cause like there's expansion issues you know motherboards been ah the motherboard is bent from stuff on it it's heavy oh oh yeah that cooler that cooler tightens down really tight I was kind of thinking of easing it off a little bit but then I was like I don't know not to his generally pretty good about yeah they usually get the Intel's guidelines right in terms of the force you're supposed to apply to the sockets I was like I don't know it's not like I have never killed the CPU installing a cooler too tight before yeah actually bored sorry not a CPU remember that that stupid pfSense project the old one yeah everyone thought that I was killing the board by like I forget what the stupid thing they thought I was killing the board by doing was it made no sense right by by shaving the plastic down off of the integrated speaker on the motherboard they were like obviously you're taking a dremel to the motherboard not killing it it's like no that's not killing it it's plastic that doesn't do anything I don't know how to talk to you people when you're saying things like that so yeah though that was not the issue the issue was actually that the the cooler that we had was for a slightly different one of the other eleven five something sockets and apparently the specs for the the mounting pressure was slightly different so we ran into trouble because we were tightening it too much and it was causing the board to flex too much and there just wasn't enough extra tolerance there to allow for it and it just was destroying them so I killed like two boards like that and it was really frustrating because especially this because especially because I had to mod it in order to get it to fit so I had to do all this work and then I finally install it and it's like broken again okay so that's how that goes on is that in focus or is I just like totally out of focus yeah oh really oh that's pretty cool neat cool all right so now we've got this run for our power supply now it's time for us to figure out some of this stuff no boy hmm nope you know what let's do our front USB first so this little guy is gonna go now this one obviously doesn't pull through the front this one actually screws in the way that we expect and we're gonna follow the rules of USB my shoes are untied ha ha oh that's very funny thank you did you know that there's like a conspiracy theory going around that none of our live streams are actually live I don't know well there was one that we did Reese is this average video no I'm not doing anything that wrong maybe a little wrong but like come on let's be fair okay yeah I know there was one we did recently where I was in a hurry or something and I didn't end up actually reading any comments I don't think and so I saw I saw a comment on it after the fact where something was like god it's not live just like all of their quote unquote live streams I was like what what do you what are you even talking about what and we and we do we do read comments like all the time on most of them well I think so the logic behind live streaming or like pretending to be live I think is is more tied to like like twitch streaming culture where that can actually have a benefit like pretending to be live is a way for you to go on vacation but not have you're not like have your channel affected by by not being there but the thing is that on YouTube if we wanted to if we wanted to create content while we can't go live we would just upload a video so yeah like there's no like there's there's no reason do that I mean I'm sure there's folks that are more that are more focused on live that might see some benefit to doing something like that but we are not we are not one of them okay I have to confess Jake can you be my manual guy because I'm a little bit confused again here you have to help David always sing attention too tight alright okay well I think that's how that goes in now where did the pieces of the case go I need to know how the pci-express riser goes in because I'm a little confused on the one hand there were like a bunch of pieces here and I was confused and then now I feel like there's not really enough pieces and like I need more pieces like how do you secure this thing it's got these mounting holes right here by the socket but there's nothing to screw them into also what does this do what is this bracket for I don't know I could do that but this is more fun I'm having fun Jake that's what these streams are all about just like having a good you can put a liquid cooler in this thing how on earth would you do that Oh a stubby graphics card okay so yeah last time around I believe they had options for like mounting a bunch of SSDs over here in the event that you had a short graphics card but apparently now you can put an AI Oh liquid cooler there that's that's pretty cool so to speak I don't think we're gonna do that cuz we're not ready this is the bracket for the riser that kind of looks like it okay oh okay no I think I see it I think I see it I think it's like I think it's something to do with these two holes here yeah probably yeah it looks like that goes there and then the bracket or the riser rather seems like it just kind of goes goes in there something yeah heck yeah so then that kind of secures it or something hmm is it that's weird so just like this sits there and just kind of sandwich is it okay all right I'm into it no I'm not checking the manual this is this is a manual this stream fully automatic look I'm not having this conversation again David I don't even think you were on the side of the people who believed in automatic transmissions what are you yep no you're just trying to stir up trouble no we're not doing a Twitter we're not no no we're not we're not we're not pulling people on a tech channel about their favorite kind of car transmission that no no we're not no we're not doing that you can't up you can't you can't post that you can no yep you can but you shouldn't oh man see I take so much flak around here because people see me like you know burning you guys or saying things that are mean or whatever and yeah yeah I know I do it a lot but you guys quite frankly are asking for it for the most part like honestly especially Jake like instead you see you see his hat you see his hand in his pouch there it's because instead of Manning the livestream he was on his phone like hell millennial I know I know you're not a millennial even worse you're gonna be the generation that the Millennials complain about that's right what does your generation even called do you guys even have a name you don't identify as having gen Z is that what they're called Gen Z I was before God no X was before us I think automatic no no don't we have one of Coursera short cable kits for this power supply did you think to check because this is kind of a you looked you didn't see 100k cuz I thought we had one of course errors first party first party ones for this yeah okay I'm on David okay I'm gonna try and I'm gonna try and figure out how to install this and are you quite sure that this power supply fits in here sfx compatible you say okay cuz uh it's not looking real promising right about now oh wait oh I see it goes on this side yeah baby and wait am I on top down oh I didn't see I got ahead of myself I went and I did the front USB and now you can't screw in the power supply once you've put in the front USB this is why there are manual see now you're on the manual side this is why you never go full auto you can't control the recoil alright how will you control the recoil first fire auto yeah that's not even a question single fire okay they can't hear you guys so like you guys look I'm not saying I'm not saying you guys can't talk on the stream I'm just saying you should probably get miked up if you're gonna talk on the street what the heck oh I guess they expect me to use the screws that are included with my power supply no yeah no no Jake is literally not a millennial he's like 17 or something it's funny cuz you're not even that much Oh roaming through the chat hey Roman I got actually dude I gotta bug you about AMD epic overclocking apparently that's a thing and we want to get our hands on one of or actually ideally a couple of am these epic processors for some video transcoding benchmarks so we're what no I'm not gonna drop one of them I will be very very careful with them but yeah floatplane wants to take advantage of the new 10 gig connection that we got here at the office so we were actually kind of thinking we would put a transcode server here and we want to play around with AMD vs intel versus GPU and get some sort of real-world numbers but I was kind of thinking would be pretty cool to overclock the AMD CPUs and I saw that there Bauer had a video that he uploaded overclocking and these epic server processors so figured it would be pretty neat to do something like that like Intel Xeon versus AMD epic versus AMD epic overclocked because what could be more epic than an overclocked server pretty sick like just to be clear we actually if you take is the overclocked Intel server video up on YouTube already or is that only on slow plane right now only on floatplane okay so we actually have a video coming up where we use not for not as like like like an over the internet video transcode server but as like a local video transcode server so we have an intel-based one from gigabyte that's actually really cool it's water-cooled it's overclockable but the issue is that it's not actually xeon based so there's nothing really that servery about it other than that it's in a one you like rack mountable case otherwise it could just as easily be a random desktop board with 7900 x in it which is the cpu that we happened to use so by contrast Andes epic CPUs supposedly actually have unlocked multi multipliers so you can actually overclock their actual server class ones what's up to put the rubber feet up oh yeah yeah I wanted to do the vertical mount anyway hold on a second actually wait what really oh yeah if you want to put the bottom feet on you gotta you gotta do that beforehand oh boy um you know what I can make that work I got this the vertical mount just like slots into this this dude out here so it should be fine hello boy is that Roman giving me advice or is that just our random in the chat random in the chat um you know what I've actually thought for a long time that there is a great business opportunity making custom IO shields because honestly think about it it couldn't be that hard from a picture like obviously there'd be exceptions like some really you know wacko motherboards in non-standard form factors or whatever else but for like standard ATX boards it couldn't be that hard to figure out a way to mostly automate the process of taking a picture of the back of a motherboard and you know kind of figuring out exactly what the dimensions are based on some known some known items like the size of a USB port and then I think there has got to be a business in replacing lost i/o shields because I personally have had probably a probably dozens of i/o shields that I would was like you know what this doesn't really matter it's not like it affects performance but boy would I love to have a new one for this because this is really frustrating and if you could do it for like you know 10 15 bucks plus what's up Oh take that off if you can do it for like 10 15 bucks plus shipping or something like that I think people pay for it I think there's an opportunity there why is there a Titan arjax why wouldn't there be a Titan r-tx what else would we put in here you know if you if you got it you flex it right up yeah there's no i/o shield because it's missing because Jake lost it actually I we don't know that Jake lost it we just suspect that Jake lost it that's all okay so we're actually in pretty good shape other than that we didn't put the feet on but I think we could still oh wow no the board is not coming out we would have to take this off we would have to yeah no this is this is a bad time this would be a really really really bad time to to get everything out so yep we're vertical mounting all right let's do some cable management here yeah actually David if you just want to indicate to Jake which one you want based on you having apparently much better game sense than him in terms of what the viewers should be looking at and that would look great that's fine I always tell stories it's what I do alright so that's in there I'm just gonna turn that power supply on now so that I don't forget doesn't matter as long as I don't plug it into the wall there's no there's no drawback to that and we're just going to go ahead and tuck these cables in here all right not bad actually even though I don't have a short cable kit this is coming together pretty nicely power button yeah yeah okay power button we got this thank you thank you I actually really like these I forget what they're calling vandal vandal proof or anti-vandal whatever that means I don't understand what is vandal resistant about them exactly but basically you just feed them through a nice cutout hole like this one BOPE really clean looking and they have these really nice ones now that have an integrated led rings so just with two buttons you can have your power and your reset and then you can have your power led and your drive activity led which apparently I have just been informed quite recently is not cool anymore Drive LEDs not cool why so Jake you were the one telling me that you that's the first thing you unplug why on earth would you do that you don't plug in it's not distracting what not how else would you okay so a couple things one how how else no no no no hold on hold on I need a chance to I need a chance to argue my position here so so one how would you know then if your drive is active and number two is why are you watching movies off of your hard drive or your SSD when you should have an ass like a real man you don't have enough stuff to throw Nana's okay so why don't you why don't you have enough stuff to store on an ass like a real man I'm just I'm just asking I'm just asking questions because your gen Z okay this is gonna be a little tricky to install but that's fine we got this power switch I kind of ran all these cables before doing the power switch in the power led and they are under all the cables but that's fine I am a pretty experienced header plug or inner although I have been known to make mistakes from time to time and edit them out actually it's a funny thing like people I think feel like we make a ton of mistakes when we do things but I think a big part of the reason for that is that we don't edit them out you know we leave them in and like I don't know it's on the one hand I think it's like damaged our reputation sometimes because you know we'll sometimes we'll try things and you know sometimes it's actually in a spectacularly stupid idea and other times like it's honestly not it's not really any different from what someone at home you know might have tried but we're you know we have you know we're willing to put ourselves out there and say yeah we tried this and here was the result and if nothing else you know the way we feel is that it like it answers someone's question because if we were wondering if it works then someone somewhere was probably wondering if it works and if it's a good idea and now they know without damaging their hardware so stand behind it wow that is a great idea you know what Jake I'm putting you on that project Phillips hue activated by your hard drive activity LED yeah so like it's like yeah we're loading that game switching levels I'll be awesome sort of so stupid like I Lyla I love it though that's hilarious Thank You community it's like this is why we can never run out of ridiculous ideas because every time we think we're close I'll just like go on the forum or fire up Twitter and people do like can you cool a GPU by just like throwing it in an ice cold bath like gee yeah good question we're cool a Macbook by putting it in a puddle yeah or like that actually that was my idea that was not a community submitted idea if I recall correctly oh yeah it worked really well but it's not actually what I wanted to do so here's the thing thanks Danny so here's the thing what I had actually wanted to do for that project where what we what we kind of oh wow am I gonna plug this in oh this is getting real tight here yeah the front USB yeah no I figured it out I'm gonna go through here and I'm gonna go over here so what I had actually wanted to do with that project where we took a MacBook and basically I think the bottom of it was unibody so I didn't have to do anything but we pretty much put it in a puddle of like ice water but not fully submerged so it was just making contact with the the back of the the MacBook which was a passively cooled machine and I was trying to see if we could get a performance boost like if there was if the hardware had more to give if it was properly cooled and yes it did and it actually worked really well but the concept the original concept for that video was something kind of different I what I had wanted to try to find was you know what would be an example of something like this like man have you ever seen like those those really thin foil like like you know a hot water bottle like you know you guys know hot water bottles like those rubber things okay and like can you can you imagine for a second like a really thin foil hot-water bottle okay so like like putting camel backs maybe maybe kind of like that yeah like a like a metal like a metal foil like bag kind of you know and so I've been trying to find something like this ever since then like periodically I'll be like look I don't know what it's called or what it would be called but I'm sure it exists so some kind of a conductive layer flexible bag that can hold a liquid that that's watertight because everyone out there is making notebook coolers that frankly don't work very well because all they can do is like blow air at the bottom of your laptop and we've tested them before they don't seem to really do a whole lot of much whereas if you could make a notebook cooler that made physical contact with a large amount of the bottom of your device and that actually had cool water circulating through it with an external radiator I think you could get really similar results to what we did with our MacBook there but without actually having the water come in contact with the laptop which is really stupid for very obvious reasons and something you would only want to do very very temporarily we should probably revisit you know phone and laptop water cooling it's been long enough that we could probably take some modern devices and yeah but the cold plate yeah the thermal transfer would suck and if you had something that was more flexible than you wouldn't have to worry about that so much so that was that was actually the somewhat legitimately good idea that spawned that video at least I think it was a legitimately good idea yeah no thermal pad would be nasty okay so SSD now it looks like it goes over here this is one packed frigging case man this is nuts yeah I put the m-dot two in yeah thankfully because if I was trying to figure that out now yeah you know what forget it yeah MDOT two is the past the present and the future now man not even because like I think the performance difference is especially noticeable you know when you're firing up apex legends or whatever the kids are playing these days but just because it's like it's small its compact you know it's the future baby Hey look I can play apex legends with the best of them they will also be in the game while I am there so I can play with the best of them yeah for a short period of time yeah yeah yeah could trout and ninja carry me do you think so I don't know I'm pretty bad it's pretty humiliating I screw it's fine oh good yeah that's right okay so was that the whole build this actually was pretty painless yeah what else is what else has left I feel like I'm missing something I really feel like I'm missing something am I missing something also there's like twice as many screws as I needed it looks like there's an entire set of silver in an entire set of black is that just an option like is that mentioned in the manual because so far I haven't needed a single silver screw like am I gonna get to a point where all of a sudden I go oh well now I need all the black screws the oops is Ninja bad at Apex alright I don't know look I don't know I don't even know what game the kids are playing let alone like who's good at it so I I'm hiding behind that defense how could you expect me to know anything if I clearly know nothing is that even a defense GP power yes we will need that cool Han I still really like this case honestly they haven't changed that much it's little tweaks like I guess it's appropriate that they called it the Sentry 2.0 because it's still a really really similar internal layout but what I do like is that it was pretty easy to manage my cables even though I don't have custom cable mod ones making things even a little bit easier and yeah the fact that they've now figured out how to throw in a io liquid cooler and there's pretty freakin cool pardon the obvious obvious terrible obvious pun all right go ahead and do this feel like I should be like checking if they oh yeah I could have had the chat up the whole time that's why I put my laptop there and then I totally forgot I got distracted I got distracted building computers can you really blame me okay the web show starts in yes 35 minutes I am aware of that thank you now this is a little tricky we've got a modular power supply and you can see or maybe you can see but there's not a lot of clearance are you only overhead you can see there's not a lot of clearance for our power button so plugging this in looks like it might be a bit of a problem and there's a chance that our power button will no longer work when we're done there's only one way for us to find out though by measuring weight there's another way the MSI Titan what now Titan X Trident X oh why is it better well I don't know you can build it yourself for one thing but no I wouldn't say it's especially better it is smaller it's quite a bit smaller like the the thing about small form-factor off-the-shelf computers is that they're like how do I put this they're like you know validated you know MSI particularly with that one didn't even try to go that small they tried to go really really high performance and like pretty small ish whereas this is full small like I am expecting both our Titan our TX and our 8700 K to throttle at least a little bit I mean especially this poor Titan dual eight pin power connectors in a case that's like smaller that's actually not much bigger than some external GPU enclosures except that it also contains a CPU Ram motherboard etc don't get an ice-water yeah it'll be no problem Titan r-tx cooled by ice water trying to fix it oh man I have not had good luck with my trying to fix videos lately so there was that one that we weren't even sure if it was an upload where I tried to like glue the CPU back together because it was like mechanically separated and people were mad they were like this is stupid he didn't even succeed I'm like yeah okay fair enough and then I have the one that we filmed earlier this week David where what was the problem with that see if you get right so I thought the issue was that we got some some liquid metal that like seeped out seeped off the dye and shorted something but then we opened it up and that wasn't the problem but then we tried like cleaning it up anyway and and putting it back together and then that didn't work so that was like I don't know two hours of shooting time wasted I think we're actually gonna upload that video anyway but not to YouTube because people got so so just what is it tilt it thank you I was thinking twisted but I knew that wasn't right people got very tilted no I was gonna go with tilting because I think triggered is like old now right I don't think triggered is cool anymore no I don't like if I like whoof that's not that I don't like roblox I just don't know what roblox is yeah no I I prefer with subscribe to PewDiePie so I bought harder guys bought harder you know so you're not botting hard enough I forget what I was even talking about yes this is why I script all my stuff now right oh yeah right that video so I think we're gonna just cut it together like barely edited at all and then just like chuck it up on floatplane and if people like it they like it and if they don't well then they don't have to watch it oh man that's dense like like listen to that boom it's heavy I love this thing alright we're gonna go ahead and pop this puppy on here I did put the side paddle on the first thing if it posts I am yeah this is this is bad bad jeebies bad jubie's I don't know it's bad something these Oh gorgeous man I love this case and that didn't even take that long to build how long have we even been streaming doesn't say well whatever not bad let's fire it up just put some stuff away here I'm gonna set a good example for all our viewers back home okay when you're working on your build please make sure that you put everything away and keep everything together as you go because otherwise you are going to regret it get my LIVESTRONG bracelet on you betcha you can't tell I'm wearing it on my ankle so it's on my ankle Jake actually you know what there's a there's a different foot here I don't even know what this foots for I guess this is if you don't have a graphics card that's like hardcore mode wow that is a long power cable thank you pretty much nice do we have like keyboard and mouse and all that kind of good stuff you're working on it I swear he's like really good at some things okay do you think it's gonna post first time wait what's this bracket for well no one knows and now we'll put it in there someone in chat probably knows because they probably subscribed to floatplane or subscribe to Kyle on floatplane and they probably saw his building this thing already I saw him upload a video so I was just like oh yeah that thing but his video is gonna be way better than this one because my understanding is he didn't just like do it live with no manual so yeah you guys are gonna want to go check that out if you're actually looking to build a system in this thing because it's more of like a step-by-step guide for those of you who don't know who I'm talking about Kyle or bit wit he changes his brand a lot so you know it's understandable if you don't know who he is no he didn't change it to something not stupid it's bit with I think that's pretty stupid it's better than it's better than awesomesauce news or whatever it was before so he's got that going for him and yes in fairness to him it's better than Linus media group because like your name is Linus and you're completely devoid of any creative thoughts I just couldn't figure out what to call the company like I wanted to describe what we do so like media and like I want it to be like I want to be like who it is who's doing it oh can I actually have an Ethernet cable Jake that would be swell be supercool I'm gonna get my cell phone no no I didn't unplug the stream card it's all good okay I'm gonna sit in the trendy chair today no I didn't get one but yeah that's long enough cool really really Jake just throw it on the ground and also no it's not long enough bring me a different one do it again actually it's long enough it's fine it's long enough no no don't killing me here all right here we go and I got it no I'm not gonna drop it I don't actually drop that much stuff for you guys okay oh this is not comfortable why is furniture like this cool stupid oh yeah it's awful what it's deer saying it's not stupid it's not cool well why does it exist then that's the only reason most stupid stuff exists cuz it's cool Melissa this is awful okay here we go oh it's supposed to have a cushion okay here we go yeah me too I don't see this monitor lit up though did I forget to plug it in did oh wait what wait did you yeah what no do you much do you mind grabbing another power key thanks Jake thank you oh wait there's one over there there's one behind the island he's good I'll probably have it before he doesn't okay cool uh yeah yeah cool thanks there you go no I found what sorry I didn't mean to throw it so fast all right input DisplayPort Wow sometimes DisplayPort can be kind of stupid so we'll go ahead and oh that turned off right away that was not good maybe it was just like new CPU installed though like maybe was sitting at the post screen let's hope let's hope that it's gonna work because otherwise we yeah we're free we're just gonna have to end the stream here well you guys that was it that was how to build a non-functional computer in this case there we go nice beautiful beauty okay did our MDOT to AH show up yes it did we've got our 16 gigs around showing up our 8700 K showing up everything seems to be working blink that's fantastic boot override boom here we go see I sort of know what I'm doing that I pretend that it works I mean I can't fake this can i that probably could there could be a computer in here and there actually is sort of some components of a computer in there I don't know if you can see that but that's the remnants of the cleanest desk PC setup so it's just a power supply and in a kitty Oh Thunderbolt GPU enclosure why is that still in here oh wow the I guess we could get this up and running again pretty quickly that's pretty cool I am very curious to see how well this poor Titan r-tx survives in here that is a rough rough situation here I'm just gonna scooch over a little bit more David so you can get a better angle then you can get a look at how tightly that graphics card is packed in check that out oh sorry was that oh yeah well the laptop is here so that I can read chats which I just kept I kept forgetting to do can you put a tridon X next to it shoot I think the Trident NEX is back in the inventory is it right there oh thanks Alex do you mind bringing it over cool yeah so we can show you guys the tribe necks next it's trust me it's a lot smaller probably the new one I would think how about my name is Linus and this is my company yeah that wouldn't have been better I don't think cool apparently the cooling thing I described is called an HTP pad about 20 bucks or so to make a laptop cooler out of it because I had the same idea says Jeremy how interesting HTP pad huh alright did this just reboot in like a bad way or a good way okay so here you go guys thank you Alex so that is not the same size as that at all like they're in a similar class where they're both you know compact desktops but you can like you can really see then the terms of the fitness like if you're trying to you know slide your gaming computer and or maybe it's not a gaming machine maybe you do like a more modest building it if you're trying to like slide it into your desk or something this is not doing that but this is it's really really compact and then in terms of the the depth as well I now have them set back the same amount so if you switch angles here David and go this way yeah if you go from where I am you can really see how much further out the tried next comes compared to the century 2.0 your top down right now oh okay all right well cool Jake is apparently top down right now and he's giving you guys a better shot all right so why don't we just start with some good old-fashioned prime95 get that hhw monitor boom excuse me do you even use sigh soft Sandra alright task manager excuse me can I speak to a manager please the task manager alright so our package is sitting right in the neighborhood of 90 to 95 degrees it's pretty toasty oof oof we just dropped down to 3.5 gigahertz I wonder if actually I'd I haven't had trouble loading things up with prime95 I just wonder if this motherboard is configured to not hold turbo for as long because here if I said I bet if I stop it give it the old stop Arena here and then I'm gonna fire it up again options torture test small FFT blah blah we're gonna jump right to almost 4 gigahertz again and we're up in that 90 to 95 degrees Celsius range and I bet it's gonna it's gonna drop down a little bit so this this workload might not be cooperating with us but that's fine because we probably also have something else that we could throw at it huh you know what we could do is we could even just like try to play 8k footage I've got red cine X on here that would give us a pretty good idea so it's turbo boosting really nicely right now let's go on our remote drive Z Linus we have a video coming that I'm really excited about where we're testing out in videos CUDA acceleration of real time 8k playback and I'm not gonna use it right now because I want to hit the CPU but it's it does take some faffing about in order to get it working so it's like kind of a pain in the butt but it's really really cool and we show a bunch of the different ways that you can that you can accelerate playback of this whether it's with CPU or GPU and yeah it's it's pretty impressive anyway so let's go ahead and play that and that should hit us pretty hard oh we might be Network bottlenecked though oh no we're not actually yeah interesting oh yeah there we go now we're up near 90 percent cpu and we're still turbo wing to 4.3 gigahertz so that's not bad but we're up near that 90 degree mark either way it's clear because you'll never see 85 90 % CPU usage while you're gaming it's clear that our CPU is going to be fine when we're gaming and we're gonna be seeing pretty darn near full turbo on this thing so that's pretty nice and this is a very real-world workload not quite the heaviest one that we could throw at it but it's pretty abusive this is 30 FPS 4k 7 to 1 compression excuse me 4k 8 k 7 to 1 compression ratio red footage and it's just me goofing around just because we needed a test clip normally we shoot it more like 20 to 1 so yeah we recorded this apparently because we're goofballs hey there we go we are getting up near 100% usage now and we're getting near 100 degrees but we are still turbo into 4.3 gigahertz is nice alright cool when we go ahead and fire up a game I actually Jake I don't know if I actually I might have lied I don't have any games installed on here because I think they're on my other drive csgo yeah but oh you know what we've got a nice fast CPU so the cache might actually pull it down pretty quickly I don't show this again why would I why would I want to see this again alright let's see what our csgo download speed is here move that's not that great oh yeah I forgot my thing is woof no I want I'm Oh Cinebench r20 sure yeah that's got it oh no isn't it like a stupid Windows Store app or something well fortunately we are what's it what's it even called Microsoft Store roblox what's worse roblox is that in here you see that you see me search for Cinebench did you see that and it came up with nothing and then I like click the thing oh so stupid no thanks why would I want to sign in to get this installed especially if I don't have to ok what wait hold on is it just telling me that I have to sign in but I actually don't is this still going don't close this I discard my changes oh wait no I think what's Wow what's sucking back all the cpu is this download which is coming down at 60 megabytes a second so yeah we're more CPU limited this must just be one that's not particularly multi-threaded the good news is that we're gonna be done in about 47 seconds here so that's nice this product is installed ok let's just see see if that is so misleading I don't have to do this here it is it's so stupid alright we're not gonna be able to run this until csgo is done but it should be done in about 30 seconds here so see if anybody sent a super chat but I need to reply to Oh this was one of them Matt says I'd love to see a hackintosh build sometime so would I we actually tried to collab with the same person that we did on our last hackintosh build a little while ago and we sent this individual an 18 core CPU if I recall correctly along with a it was a 70 900 X Oh 10 core ok so we sent him a 70 900 X and a LGA 2066 motherboard and he flaked just stopped replying to emails and the thing with hackintosh is that yeah with enough time we could probably figure it out but collaborating with someone into the scene is a way more efficient way to to work on stuff like that so that's what we had tried to do and we basically got screwed so I'm not saying we're not going to do it I'm just saying that we tried and it didn't work and so it'll be later that's that's the way that's gonna be all right this is just installing right now just about done three more seconds and it's in a bench time so Cinebench are twenty is based on a much much newer version of the software compared to our 15 to be specific five five versions newer and it gives you some idea of how well the system should perform in cinema 4d now there's actually also an unofficial r15 extreme that's like a community created one that's designed to kind of separate the men from the boys so to speak when it comes to like these huge many threaded CPUs these days but that's also based on version 15 so this seems like it would be a better bet it does seem like it's it's definitely intensive like we are throttling all the way down to three point eight five gigahertz now we're at we were at a hundred degrees yeah it's hitting it hard actually but it does seem like it's still gonna be a really short benchmark because there's only a six core processor and it's still doing pretty well here yeah I can hear it a little it's not bad though here you guys my mic song here so the CPU fan is definitely ramping up but my power supply fan still isn't even on we're using the 600 watt Corsair I think it's an 80 plus platinum unit and it's so efficient that even with the CPU load the fans not even spinning it's pretty cool once we hit it with a GPU load though it'll definitely start spinning we can fire up it's yes go in a minute here not that csgo is a particularly representative benchmark for the Titan r-tx but I thought there were games on this drive in there are it and we're live so it's gonna be what it is you know you got a half button you gotta roll with that roll with the punches there you know there you go we got 30 100 points which most people won't have a ton of context for because this benchmark has only been out for a couple of days neat what I really want to see though is the GPU temperatures when we're in games and the CPU temperature is when we're in games no I don't want to open the download page this is fine so here's our GP temperatures were sitting at 35 idle that's perfectly reasonable but we'd expect that cuz look at all this ventilation you've got like the GPU until you start to generate a ton of heat and it starts to kind of recycle that it's basically running an open air right now cuz it's all mesh on the top all mesh along the side where those fans are drawing in fresh air it's game launcher oh I have no idea what the availability in this case is I only briefly skimmed the email because I was like oh cool it's those guys again that's neat guys let me know actually in the comments on this video if you want it's cuz we don't really do case reviews anymore but if you guys want to see a return to case coverage this might actually be a way to do it just like do a built right layout some hardware get all get all the tools like do it I mean we can draw a pretty reasonable conclusion about the kind of build that you can do and it obviously it's not gonna be to the same depth as the hardware contacts or gamers Nexus or whatever else but it's it's a way for us to have some fun with it make it really like hands-on really practical I'm gonna practice with but you know what no I'm gonna official match make play here okay what what what should I do that's - no no not competitive casual casual I am I am the filthiest casual that ever casual - Jake you know this I'm lucky if I can maintain like one to one kill the death ratio on in a casual match and I don't even have a mousepad right now in fair this to me oh boy he's eliminating excuses man I should have used the excuse after I lost that's the problem with blowing your excuse load early well see now I can't even I can't even buy things because you just are throwing stuff at me killing me here oh yeah it's warm up never mind well look I don't I only play I only practice with BOTS David so I don't know these things alright here we go Bryan's probably coming to get his laptop back he's precious alright want to see my GPU Tim's about 50 degrees oh did I wait okay Matt shouldn't start yet oh there's no there's no team damage in casual alright yeah dual beretta is like a pro yeah you know it baby I'm sorry I get a burrito if I get a kill with these okay yeah no David would get a kill with them I'm terrorists right oh crap well cuz I forgot and that way I'll fire at the right people okay come on did I even hit him I hate these games with recoil honestly I can't play games with recoil no I know I hit him on the first shot because I had the crosshairs right on his head but I didn't go to oh boy so you've played quake 3 arena with me I go toe to toe with you and games where you had the gun actually goes where you point no problem you're better than you you were wrecking me David you were there what was he wrecking me no he certainly wasn't that is such BS yeah Alex you were there was Jake wrecking me in quake 3 arena I thought David was good too yeah ads it's good at everything I hate playing video games with it unless he's on my team in which case it's lots of fun hey my team won I helped I did like eight damage to that guy all right I'm trying one more time because I want the free burrito oh I have the bomb what do you mean I don't get them yeah I get two chances who cares no I'm getting the note you have to do the burrito it's up to the chat what do you mean I lost know if I get a kill that's a kill with the dual Berettas no way no way no way that doesn't count oh come on they even hit him nope didn't even hit him how did I miss from there well I think we're done here hold on actually before we do that though so we're sitting up at around 69 degrees but we also I don't think are even like fully utilizing our our power budget here on this card because this is a pretty it was a pretty bangin card here yeah we're at like 80% power actually it's still not bad there's really quiet huh all right yes I wish to stop playing now I think we're done here also I think we're done with the stream thanks 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it could be broken yeah no I didn't kill a guy so I guess