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okay it's when Showtime again or that is to say it was when Showtime about 20 min about 20 minutes ago thank you for your patience those of you who are watching on YouTube in a certain area meaningful to you we were on time today in some timezone who are on time yeah it's five o'clock somewhere which is irrelevant because we don't start at 5:00 yeah wait yes we do oh crap but not in that time zone um okay can we please daylight saving time oh yeah last week yep so actually no one's gonna be watching this week anyway like a go look at the viewership statistics probably everyone was like everyone everywhere else in the world probably thinks that it doesn't start for an instant for another hour yeah so no we're for a minute sorry whoa oh my goodness we are early for like most of the world that's fantastic we are so good at this yes like online content creators yeah all right so we've got a great show for you guys today yeah we specifically went out of our way to avoid talking about it last week and the reason was that honestly I just needed a little bit more time to figure out what the heck was going on here the GeForce Partner Program yeah on the surface this looks like some pretty jank pretty scummy stuff and below the surface well we'll talk about it later but I mean realistically if I was gonna say it's all good I would have said that before yes there was another big news item this week security flaws found in AMD Zen processors from CTS labs Wow that's been a drama and a half so but I think that even technically started last week - yeah but especially this one super muddy waters last week and it's like still kind of confused do you ever play the game at the beach where you would like you would like stomp and then you get like the like the kind of Godzilla looking cloud that comes out around your foot and then you'd be like oh that was fun stomp and then you would get to the point where you couldn't really see the cloud because it because you just mocked up everything so that was last week now we've left it for a few hours and like we can go sort of stomp around a bit again but it's not it's not clear either what else we got okay apparently another Nvidia thing they're both just slamming it this week apparently they're gonna announce our TX or rate racing technology which is pretty interesting and another companies removing another headphone jack now it's the same headphone jack yeah that's fair well I guess it's a different headphone jack you know what what's the same kind that's just really yeah can you eat either of those things that's a real bummer because I'm super hungry I was like if I thought you were like spilling into a spot I'm sure you can have these oh I'm not gonna eat you turkeys not sponsors Frank they're right there yeah they're right there and I'd feel better well first I'd feel worse that I'd feel better and I'd feel much worse [Laughter] why don't we jump into the news um this is gonna be like not very many topics but a very long time yeah I'm not ready for the g-force partner program we jump into that not yet yeah yeah let's talk about let's talk about something kind of trivial I'm the easy fish first wow you and I are gonna have to play we're gonna have to play share the power adapter over the next little bit here Oh ten percent that's okay I'm gonna oh I'm on battery saver already well okay then I'm gonna turn down my screen brightness a bit okay Sony removed the headphone jack from the Xperia XZ 2 and X said to compact they outlined the details of why they did this in their blog this was originally posted on the forum by diehard live would you mind doing it's die hard to live die hard to live yeah I can do a strawpoll heck yeah do you even consider Sony phones when buying a phone that is a fantastic strawpoll would you consider a Sony phone now yeah here in North America Sony's market share is like third this is one of the reasons why I want to do this poll though because we don't necessarily have just in North America not exactly it'll be a little skewed because we're live right now yeah if this was the if we were able to get these results from the YouTube audience I think it would be different than what it's going to now someday when we're streaming on float plane and that stream and then go we could have like perpetual pulling that like sits right under the video and that would be super cool I totally work I mean yeah it's all sort of theoretical at this point because flow plane is not it's particularly fully featured at the moment last week I'm not trying to be a dress or anything last week hit a little deep that that comets further yep okay so I've gone ahead I've dropped the straw poll in there but it's how this was originally posted on the forum by die hard to live and they basically outlined the two reasons for removing the headphone jack that subjectively are probably about the worst reasons that you could do anything and contribute to in my opinion oh my god was that absolutely okay I haven't read there two reasons before was that actually it or did we just like come up with that contribute to probably why I think probably why the straw poll results will be what I think they will be so I pull up the results here would you consider a Sony phone remember we didn't say would you buy a Sony phone yeah we said would you even consider even think about it at all we've got 26% of you saying yes 74% of you saying no and only 500 of you even bothering to vote which is some pretty low numbers for these winchell which I'm gonna put that category as a wow I really don't care and no one is even no one is even still voting like the results aren't even rolling in anymore oh wait yes that yes they are oh oh and it's died off pretty hard at 6:35 it died off pretty hard it's like still kind of going it's okay so here are the reasons that Sony outlined for making this decision and you gotta remember the the strong opinion on this would be a yes anyone thinking no like it's kind of effort for them to be like yeah so like there's probably a way higher percentage of people that actually wouldn't consider but anyways reason number one it looks more sleek without it so by that logic a human would probably look more sleek without an anus but you probably shouldn't remove it reason number two I thought you were gonna hold it together on that one but you couldn't to other companies are doing it oh so painful now in fairness it's not actually what they said in fairness to Sony in fairness to Sony hold on a second here okay look do you want me to read the whole thing this is part of the shift to our new ambient flow design language in order to create the beautiful seamless design our designers needed to remove the headphone jack plus we were aware of the major market trends towards wireless headphones over wired headphones so yes they literally did they literally did say that mmm so okay in fairness to Sony in defense of Sony something that I'm not a hundred percent sure if they deserve right now no one cares about their phones anyways no that is not what I was going to say we grew there I was also kidding in fairness to Sony I never I never sent the announcement video live I was trying to figure out why so few people used to like their phones until we had so many of them just bend in half yeah well - I think three Burkle's mine yours Burkle's did - yeah oh I didn't even know that yeah how do you manage to do that it was a compact oh the compacts have the same issue is just less like it was just Buerkle he's an action man I'm probably more actually in his pants Wow I meant like wow okay actually my defense of Sony is actually worse than anything you said in defensive in Tony's defense the last time they tried to do something really innovative that was probably really expensive from an Rd perspective because remember Sony was the one that made waterproof mainstream that's cool that was very cool that's why I used to really like their phone and then it still didn't manage to sell more phones because of it but that's a whole other issue the last time they tried to do something they were the first to have a 4k display now creating a 4k mobile display you guys got to understand when you have a feature on your phone let's say 1 plus launches a 2560 by 1080 mobile display yeah 1 plus did not go and get that freaking panel created bear a relatively small player and when you're a relatively small player doing relatively small volume you don't get to walk up to Samsung's display division or LG or auo or Phillips or whoever it is you don't get to walk up and be like yo we need a custom SKU it needs to have this color gamut this response time it needs to be this size at this resolution they're gonna laugh you out of their office you get to do that when your Apple when your Samsung Believe It or Not apples knotch display was custom created just for them because until Apple did it of course after Apple does it which ties into some of these other reasons yeah of course other people want it but until Apple did it nobody else was gonna want that okay so so Sony would have had to actually create a 4k mobile display in that form factor for that phone that quite honestly they probably didn't sell a ton of based on our straw poll results and also you can just google it and just see like the people around you what phones are using so they didn't yeah once last time you saw one yeah so so Sony didn't probably get a great ROI on that particular you know breaking the mold kind of investment although even then giving them credit for breaking them all in that way is not entirely friendly because they were just following an overall market trend they were just trying to get out ahead of it in a way that was totally meaningless and stupid yes and almost never even worked anyways the phone ran in default 1080p almost all the time and then you'd like view a picture that was in 4k and you'd have to wait a second and then it was just like and then change resolution of it was really weird it was very odd almost everything ran at 1080p but anyway so I can see how they don't want to take any risks because you have to move a lot of devices to make up for any kind of R&D investment beyond just even the base um but I'm just I'm disappointed I I was thrilled to see that Samsung still had the headphone jack on the s9 and s9 plus I think that you know what yeah the mainstream is moving to wireless but Samsung is going to sell some handsets just for that and I really hope that they do get rewarded for it you know all right what do we got for our next topic here all big deep ones I just have such as this thing if you want to go pretty light and easy no no let's just let's just get this out of the way okay so the GeForce Partner Program this was originally posted on the forum this is actually an 11-page topic over on our forum and it was posted by WM groom a Kay and this lady or gentleman whichever it is going on here basically read an article over on Hart OCP from Kyle Bennett and said this found all of this interesting if his reporting checks out because basically and and this is sort of the problem this came to light from AMD bringing some of the details of what's called the GeForce Partners Program or GPP to his attention and you got a look at that's yeah you got a look at no matter who it is like I I get that whoever you're a fanboy of whether it's AMD or Intel or Nvidia I get that there's this like tribalism thing that's that's wired into us as human beings and when someone else does it it's the worst and when we do it it's just us getting back at them for being bad people but you got to understand that any time any any company brings something to your attention oh hey um have you noticed them doing this there's an agenda at play there's room first in almost every action is selfish whether it's helpful other people or not there's some amount of em that is usually selfish which is okay in a lot of cases but it's just something to be aware of yes it's you got to live your life sort of thinking about that in everything that you do so the basic summary is that the story began when several sites including Hart OCP were alerted to the goings-on by a by AMD in a blog post from March first Nvidia outlined their new geforce partner program which ostensibly helps consumers identify brands that deliver the GeForce promise of delivering the best PC gaming platform bar none so let's go ahead and pull up in videos blog post that nvidia is very good at this oops there we go let's pull up in videos blog post that nvidia is so good at this sort of puts it in the shiniest possible terms what they're doing here this is the headline the geforce partner program helps gamers know what they're buying oh boy I was having trouble figuring out what I was buying before I'm sure glad that I know now it like last stream we talked about how confusing Intel SKUs are yeah graphics card SKUs are not a huge problem on the in videos yeah actually and even on the AMD side yeah it's pretty straightforward they're not that bad higher number is more better there was a little bit of confusing this intersection there but it's the first number is the generation and then beyond that higher is more better I think it got a little bit confusing on the AMD side when we had like a URI and actually no Nvidia does have some stupid BS going on right now where the three gig and the six gig version of the 1060 are actually different cards yeah yeah okay so hold on a sec is well wait a minute is it Nvidia rescuing us from themselves is that what's happening right now we also had that stuff where the Titan XP and the Titan xpp that okay that was really annoying great that was really so especially when the whole community nicknamed the first one the XP yeah and then they called their next one the XP okay okay so fine okay fine you know what then let's play let's play nvidia advocate go wait let's play nvidia advocate and say they did need to do something about this confusing industry so let's have a look at what they said good man wow this starts off horrible like right within the first two lines the GPU and software of a gaming pc make all the difference in a gamers experience and together with our add-in card and system partners we're dedicated to building the best PC gaming platform BarNone this is the geforce promised partner program is designed to ensure that gamers have full transparency into the GPU platform and software they're being sold now I'm not I'm gonna let you finish but did you ever read stuff that just makes you like tired I'm doing it right now I'm sure where you were going with yeah imma let you finish but there was no ambiguity here there there's already marketing incentives and in some cases like basically an arm twisted behind the back like this where Nvidia really has a lot of control over the the badges that are put on for example a product box or in the case of add-in cards even the overall design like you could take a picture from the side of an entire shelf of cards made by MSI asus gigabyte EVGA and all the Nvidia ones would be basically the same because NVIDIA has mandated and they have lots of levers they can pull to control their partners but NVIDIA has mandated that they need to kind of look like this and the levers that they can pull include pricing allocation of the hot parts that actually sell partner support so things like providing engineering support for your custom boards access early access to the parts so you can begin development ahead of other guys and all this kind of stuff has existed forever and that's like totally kind of fine kind of kind of there's there's some issues in some realms but most of it is fairly standard practice okay fine is a relative term most of this is fairly standard practice for a lot of different yeah depending on how it's done so that we we get a lot of we we get a lot of sort of feedback from our community that the perception is that were sort of like friends of Nvidia but the reality of it is we're not friends with anybody we are a business and we have business partnerships and from a product perspective we like Nvidia products just fine from a sort of how we perceive their reputation within the industry we have some misgivings ones that we have brought to light in the past yeah particularly actually I think probably the most recent example is the 1066 Gagan three gig that's an extremely recent example we didn't like the way they did that well I mean like we mentioned it this show but there's also the recent change to GeForce experience yes we've also mentioned that which was like we put them on blast for that and I still don't install it and I still don't recommend it and while I am NOT always at liberty to talk about especially the sources of the the the frustration with Nvidia that takes place behind the scenes there's a lot of it that we're aware of and there's a lot of arm-twisting and you know it's you know think about it think in videos like the partner that stands there posing for a picture with you and has their foot on your toe yeah be like smile properly I mean that's the perception that I get these come say hi so let's continue reading about the g-force promise here this transparency into what you're buying is only possible when Nvidia brands and partner brands are consistent so the new program means that we'll be promoting our GPP partner brands across the web on social media and events and more so this sounds like oh and Vidya is doing a great things for their partners GPB partners will also get early access to our latest innovations and work closely with our engine team to bring the newest technologies to gamers partners are signing up fast they see the benefit of keeping brands and communication consistent and transparent does this not have like a witch witch Harry Potter movie is it where Umbridge takes over this the professor the the the prim and proper yeah you know yeah lady who turns out to be like an absolute monster remember the name of it but I think it's the second last one yeah not really important yeah the point is does this not have like yeah kind of a rules for you know proper behavior as students kind of vibe to it yeah the program isn't exclusive partners continue to have the ability to sell and promote products from any one partners choose to sign up for the program and they can stop participating at any time there's no commitment to make any monetary payments or product discounts for being part of the program GPP ensures our engineering and marketing efforts support brands consumers associate with g-force that transparency will give gamers the confidence needed to make their purchase whichever products they choose now I don't often feel the need to read out an entire press release from a company because a lot of the time frankly I feel like companies should pay me to read their stupid press release like honestly the press releases though that's not journalism that's not object that's not objective that's advertising they literally pay someone to write it and then they pay like market wire to distribute it not that that's what it is okay so on the surface this sounds like everything about this is voluntary and terrific but let's look at the state of the GPU market right now if you if you can get GPUs you are making Bank because of the whole cryptocurrency mining thing and pent-up demand from gamers who haven't been able to get GPUs because of the cryptocurrency mining thing if you can't get GPUs you are basically plumb out of luck and NVIDIA without doing anything that could open them up to a lawsuit can plausibly say we just didn't have enough for you you were on the list sorry and if you're let's say someone like EVGA for example you have other businesses you sell motherboards you sell crazy ridiculously high waters power supplies yeah you sell power supplies you sell cases even but let's be honest when's the last time you saw an EVGA motherboard out in the wild so they sell they sell motherboards but do they sell a lot of them compared to someone like an asus or a gigabyte no not really and that isn't to say that they're bad boards that's just to say that they aren't as popular and that EVGA is business is very reliant on GPUs so if EVGA couldn't get allocation of GPUs to say that their business would suffer would be a gross understatement so Nvidia is blog post outlining how this is all very voluntary it just ensures that they get the benefits of being part of the partner program it comes across a little bit disingenuous because that's not what's going on here what's going on is that if you don't join the partner program you're not going to get allocation and your business is going to suffer and you're gonna have to layoff real people with real families who won't have a job anymore and won't be able to support them and that's something that if I'm a company like EVGA that for the most part my experience with them has actually been very positive I would like to believe that they care about so you're pretty much joining the GeForce Partner Program so let's go to the hard OCP article a huge shout-out to Kyle for for doing what he was doing here so hard OCP began interviewing AI bees and OEM sometimes I'm gonna reshare this into a sex I showed it why yeah go ahead hit twitch chat with that it's really important so they began interviewing a IBS and OMS communicated a few things one that the geforce partner program has terms in it that are likely illegal number two that the geforce partner program is going to likely tremendously hurt consumer choice and number three that the geforce partner program will disrupt business with companies that are currently doing business with AMD in particular AMD and intel the other thing that he gleaned and we haven't been able to verify this cuz here's what you guys got to understand I don't I've never seen the agreement and I know for a fact I will never see the agreement it would shock me if anyone ever saw this agreement out in the public but what I know about agreements like this is that let's say for example that a gag order was done in an illegal fashion let's say I made you sign some kind of an agreement that says yes spicy agreement okay if you talk about this agreement I will kill you and you won't authorize me to kill you oh okay obviously illegal but let's say it wasn't murder let's say it was something slightly less black and white than that like I'll kill your company yeah like that which to a lot of people is kind of close yeah I mean people have committed suicide over that's something what I mean yeah so let's say that it was something like that you could you could you could you could break the agreement at some point but until you fight me in court and prove that depending on the way it's wording because expensive lawyers can do expensive lawyer things depending on the way it's worded the onus could be on you to prove that you don't owe me whatever it was so your business could effectively be destroyed in the years and after the money that it costs you to fight me so even though I have an illegal term and I have a potentially illegal punishment for it you don't want to be the one who steps out of line because I can punish you in the mean time in ways that would destroy you to the point where it would never matter if what I did was illegal because you wouldn't even exist to take a payout anymore five years ten years down the road when you would be in a position to finally get your payout now that is a real possibility and I'm not saying that I know that that's what's happening but what I do know is that nobody is coughing up this agreement and I do know that agreements like this do exist okay so with all of that in mind further information that hard OCP is publishing alleges that the GeForce Partner Program and I think okay - - I'm not disagreeing with anything you're saying okay but to play a little at sides I know I know I know but to play a little bit both sides yeah alleges is a pretty important word like there's a lot of according to Kyle Bennett's article on hard OCP and a lot of it makes sense and I'm explaining how it could make sense but it lines up pretty okay but like okay so thank you but like yeah I just want to make sure that's clear because while this may make sense and all that kind of stuff it's not technically complete it's it's all alleges okay so Kyle's article further alleges that in order to have access to the GeForce partner program partners must have their own gaming brand aligned exclusively with GeForce now think about that for a minute because that's been a huge trend over the last ten years or so I think ROG just celebrated its 10-year anniversary with the ram-paige 5 extreme they had a 10-year anniversary edition of that board and ROG was one of the two aces his credit this was a soos doesn't always get marketing right but to ease his credit they built the ROG brand when I called it a stupid idea way back in the day so kudos to them and the rest of the industry basically was playing follow the leader and that's yeah I would also say they they have nailed it so a few times asus rog gigabytes a Oris lenovo's legion who else do you have Dells XPS or alienware to a greater extent XPS is less gaming these days opposed to be dungeon is been having more of an issue getting its well they just launched that's fair like CES 15 months ago or something like that so give them some time yeah but it also alleges that all of these brands will have to be exclusively aligned with GeForce so even though in videos blog post says partners continue to have the ability to sell and promote products from anyone the GPP documentation allegedly says that those who do not participate will lose benefits like high effort engineering engagements early tech engagement launch partner status game bundling sales rebate programs I'll get back to that one social media and PR support marketing reports and marketing development funds so let's get back to sales rebate programs and marketing development funds for a minute here the way the tech industry works and there's a reason for it because if you gave every mom-and-pop computer shop a $1 discount they would take it straight to price and sell the product for cheaper which as a consumer you might go wow that's great but it isn't necessarily because we talked about this previously when Intel wasn't providing the support that we feel like they should on their previous generation chipsets in terms of patching force vector and meltdown but the problem with just charging the bare amount is that it doesn't give you the the business warchest that you need to well to go to war in the event that you have to and it's one of those things where it kind of relies on a business to behave in a manner that is in good faith acting in the consumers best interest but a business that is making a healthy profit is in a better position to as an extreme example still exist a year later when you come back for warranty support you actually need the companies that you buy things from to make a profit yeah does that make sense yeah okay so anyway the problem with the IT industry is that it tends to be and it's kind of a cultural thing I'm not gonna get any deeper into it than that but it tends to be a race to zero industry volume volume volume take down as much margin as you can so you can take the volume that your competitor would have been doing forced them under and then someday we'll raise the prices yeah and you do eventually see that like the hard drive industry enjoyed a short period of great margins when basically everyone was gone and then they were supplanted by the SSD industry in the mainstream and to be clear hard drives are still doing fine in the cloud they're not going away or anything but that business is a b2b business which tends to be lower margins so there was like there was like a golden hour there for the hard drive industry here do you need this yeah go for it right so the way that the tech industry works is that the pricing is fixed you just say okay look a core i5 eighty six hundred K that's $200 us and then the way that you actually provide promotions or the way that you make someone like up formerly so when I worked at NCIX the way that NCIX was able to differentiate from mom-and-pop shops was not the sticker price it was the back end support because every CPU we sold we got a couple percentage kickback at the end of the quarter and every CPU we sold well you know during Black Friday we might get five bucks or ten bucks off now all of a sudden mom-and-pop in order to compete with us have to sell below cost giving us an advantage that's the way that you actually stay competitive and be clear this isn't some kind of like subversive cloak-and-dagger nonsense because within sort of the the mainstream stores that you shop at best buy a new egg I mean okay some of these are kind of dated references a tiger direct memory Express Canada Computers Micro Center Amazon the programs are basically across the board pretty similar and whenever someone finds out that they get a bot approach that someone else got a program that they didn't there's outrage and usually the brand ends up kind of doing something to make it up to you and then the other guy complains about that is all negotiations it's business as usual now the problem here is that with GPUs in particular Nvidia maintains a lot of control over the pricing at every level to the partners and to the end users through tools like these kinds of rebates so they sell the chipset to the vendor at some price X but then Nvidia could decide a week later to go Wow you know what here's a sell-through rebate effectively lowering the price without actually lowering the sticker price meaning that someone who has a multi-week in some cases lead time between acquiring chips and then turning them into boards delivering them to retailers and eventually selling through them might effectively have a bunch of stock that's overpriced now and no real recourse for getting rid of it and so it's adding videos discretion to support you to get rid of it which is a fairly direct way a fairly strong but indirect way to sort of choke out a company that's right so game bundling MDF and sales rebate programs are basically like saying you'll never make money on graphics cards again if you were to remove all that stuff yeah okay I forget where we were going with this but partner brand aligned exclusively with Nvidia partners have the ability to sell and promote products from anyone but allegedly this behind the scenes documentation says they'll get all of this support cut and to be clear the public documentation doesn't say any of that okay her hard OCP has been told that if a company does not participate GPP they feel not buy-in video as if in video would hold back allocation of GPUs from their inventories this has not been spelled out contractually but the feeling is that it's done on a wink and a nod to be fair they said that the stuff we just mentioned losing all these different things yeah was in the documentation this is a feeling yeah the allocation bid is a feeling and then the next part the Ruatoria vote is also a like feeling yeah so it was expressed too hard OCP that publishing that article could damage hard OCPs relationship with nvidia oh well we've gotten to the end of it now I guess I guess we're in the same boat look at that but knowing and like okay to jump all the way back to the beginning of this conversation in terms of like there's always there's very extremely massively off dynamic as they always because someone's gonna call me on that it's some weird way but there's basically always a selfish reason for everything well the self is region is tiny or huge whatever yeah saying if if you release this Nvidia is gonna be mad with the thing that the heart OCP was probably pushing them to release it um Kyle has been in the industry a long time he's yeah we connected they may have actually had his best interest at heart possibly but from articles that I've read from him before - no issue but pushing that kind of stuff but let's go let's go let's let's take the helicopter up another thousand feet and let's go why were they talking to him at all yeah yeah seriously so so the particular warning might have been in Kyle's best interest but the fact that they're talking to him at all is probably in their own best interest and I'm sure they know that he likes juicy article and also for the consumers best interest potentially like because remember there there could be a selfish kernel but that doesn't mean yeah it doesn't benefit I'll hold onto people and that we didn't know how much rationalize the benefit you're providing to yourself by saying well it also helps out all these other guys which is great in a lot of situations that's honestly mostly how charity works but yeah like you just don't know how much how much of this is helping other people how much of this is and for Kyle to talk about how this article could damage the relationship with NVIDIA you can find a selfish kernel there too by saying that he's adding credibility to his own publication by saying you know what I'm willing to risk damaging my relationship with Nvidia in order to bring you guys the facts and in this case this actually does look to me and I'd I haven't seen the partner agreement and I won't admit to having talked to anyone about this behind the scenes but this looks to me like it actually does have the potential to damage a relationship with Nvidia Nvidia is well it comes back to the portrait Nvidia smiles a lot and they they talk about partnership a lot and what they mean is they have expectations of their partners and if their partners don't meet them hmm hmm that's my perception and a lot of people think that we're like super super chummy with Nvidia but I've said before in the past and I'll say it again now we have done a grand total of three sponsored engagements with Nvidia we did some pre-rolls way back when we first started and those were actually that was a complicated thing because probably none of you even remember them it was ten spots and they were all for a particular EVGA graphics card but the funding was being passed through via MDF from Nvidia so that one hardly even registers number two we went down to California and hosted mod 20 for their modding event we were paid what I consider to be a very modest fee for that kind of an engagement yeah and the number three this was the first time they had actually done flat out a sponsored video with us ever they did something with us in q4 talking about how to game at 4k they were actually pretty easy to work with which was kind of refreshing because we were able to talk about game consoles as well we kept it very objective and we told them upfront we were like look we never actually work with you guys on sponsored stuff but there's this perception that we're in your pocket so you got to understand we're gonna have to approach this very carefully yeah and they were actually pretty cool about it but that's the extent of it we have worked far more extensively with AMD Intel a seuss I think we've done more stuff with MSI I mean certainly more stuff with the regular partners like like Squarespace ZOTAC we haven't really done much big stuff we've done actually we've done a fair bit so tag yeah ok yeah yeah like most people there you go so are we putting ourselves at risk given that the relationship was finally starting to warm up and we were really getting some stuff done like us a dedicated sponsored video with us is one of the one of the biggest things that a partner can do with us and we finally did one with them given things we're starting to warm up yes we're putting ourselves at risk but given that our business survived just fine for the 5 years prior to that no it's not a ton so we're not gonna act like white knights here or anything like that but I also said allegedly a lot you said allegedly a lot because reception and that I'm not gonna admit to having talked to anyone I'm gonna say this I haven't talked to anyone and I'm also gonna say this I'm not always a hundred percent honest with you guys so you can read into that whatever you feel like I want to add one thing before we jump into sponsor spots but one thing I want to add to you is some of this stuff is future traceable so you'll be able to tell yeah just keep that in mind like one of the smart things you can do if you're trying to keep an agreement under wraps is you could give everyone slightly different terms that's fair yeah and that way if it came to light you could kind of go OK if it was one of them them or them and then something else came to light you could go it was them so even if I knew anything and I am 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but thank your girlfriend be like I can't wait to get that off of you [Laughter] it's probably not a good idea yeah well he asked if I wanted a hockey sweater or like a more american-style sweater I was like that that's a good point I'll be kind of interesting to have a like Oh hockey style Savage sure he's wearing that doesn't help pickups yeah water doesn't make it better oh it's all plain to undo for playing ball you're all screwed up no do the aim you do full plate before you know B first I hate you so much [Laughter] how's a big bite I haven't eaten in a while you have to build up us you have to build up a tolerance I'm like straight up crying right now okay I thought I did bad this week videos on videos on floatplane what our OEMs original equipment manufacturers I think everyone's heard this term yeah what is it we explain cool scraping thermal paste oh by the way you're looking at the new layout of the floatplane site yeah in order scraping thermal paste is Intel sterile paste actually that bad we got a bagful of processors delayed them harvest the thermal paste and then use it on a liquid metal CPU against normal thermal paste cool all right ahh invidious first SLI gaming setup reconstructed 6800 GTS I mean for sport mode we've been working on that for a long time yep two thousand two million dollar clean room drive saviors data recovery tour you should watch this he likes that want to yeah I haven't seen it yet but I'm really excited tech quickie how does eye tracking work I saw that foam nails like testing the 56 core system holy bleep dude we don't have bleeping on the windchill this was a simultaneous or know this was a short window the laptop to buy right now the LG Graham 2018 they added Thunderbolt great laptop until CPU letters explained I don't think that's actually on YouTube yet and then we do do some exclusive content not a ton but I tested the Nvidia shield from the NCIX auction so no spoilers but that's over there as well and I think I think that's all we got on there right now you're doing pretty good yeah you recovered quite a bit I have I have recovered okay so let's talk about the next completely AIDS topic posted by coaxial gamer on the forum security flaws discovered in AMD's and processors so this sounds on the surface like Oh either yeah you know what depending on what kind of a tinfoil hat you wear this could sound like a lot of things this could sound like Intel trying to make AMD look bad this could sound like AMD actually having security flaws and like them being all like being up on their high horse when Intel was dealing with their flaws wow they're a bunch of jerks or it looks like it may even be possible that this was an independent group looking to make AMD stock perform poorly so they could short it so CTS lassu a security company based in Israel announced Tuesday that its researchers had found 13 critical security vulnerabilities that would let attackers access data stored on Andy's Zen family processors including Rison and even their epic server processors as well as install malware on them the vulnerabilities have been put into four groups called master key rise and fall fallout and chimera thankfully nearly all of these vulnerabilities require root access in order to be exploited but it does get sketchy the researchers gave AMD less than 24 hours to look at the vulnerabilities and respond before publishing the report now that's not illegal but that is not considered to be industry not being a douche practices yeah what else we got here standard vulnerability disclosure calls for at least 90 days so the companies have time to address flaws properly google gave intel six months to fix issues related to specter and meltdown so if it's less than 90 days that could be like rivals like Google and Facebook being like yeah oh well you know we gave you enough time to fix it we're going public with this cuz it makes them look bad right it doesn't make you look that bad when a vulnerability goes public because everyone has issues when a vulnerability goes public but it's like already fixed so if you're trying to cause PR damage to someone you might go live in 30 days so that you could be like well they had a whole month to fix this yeah and kind of plausibly say that 24 hours that's not even enough time to check your email the researchers pre briefed media and a company that makes money by shorting the stock market before going live with it Viceroy research published an obituary for AMD just 30 minutes after CTS labs publicized the vulnerabilities so this is some sketchy stuff now I'm not saying that these researchers aren't qualified to do CPU research I don't know there's been a lot of weird stuff to like people tried to deep dive this and one of the ones that I saw was like someone figured out that the backgrounds and all the videos were stock photos mm-hmm so they're like they don't have real reddit they don't even have a real office or they may have a real office but it doesn't look like super Pro like that yeah but at the same time if you pay attention to backgrounds throughout the videos at one point in time they're like middle frame on a photo that was taken mostly at the floor so like the person would have to be standing on like a 70 degree angle off the ground this way yeah for it to be realistic like I don't think they were actually kind of fool people yeah it was also like a super overproduced kind of video - like it yeah had kind of a sleazy vibe to me but that's okay not surprising from a company that's probably not released a video like a Kickstarter except that the production values were pretty good so for some reason they spent money well to make a good-looking video but um here I think this is it it was a great article from reborn com I'm gonna go ahead I'll post this for you guys banner but check this out like this is actually done well so they put money into looking like they had an office okay sort of but hold on then look at this one like that's that's the floor those servers are reflecting on this photos taken from the floor it's a reflective floor I think no oh I got that wrong yeah it's half way down the server rack yeah nevermind so alright umm I thought that was the floor right here wait hold on but but no I I don't I thought it was really reflective polished floor but now I kind of think that's just yeah so um does it does it look really really janky yes I guess that's basically all we have to say about that yeah so there may actually be security issues but yeah there also might not be or they also might just be like giant jerks all right um in videos ray-tracing thing we're like out of time is there anything else that's like absolutely critical that we have to talk about this week I feel so bad James spent all day on this dock and we ended up talking about the Nvidia thing the whole time famous people play video games that's a thing that happens yeah EA is turning star wars battlefront 2 into a real game apparently I'm a real game no no one cares the progression is now linear star cards or any other item impacting gameplay can only be ran through gameplay will not be available for purchase so basically they made their money I guess or people stopped playing I guess one of the two starting in April you'll be able to get appearances directly through in-game credits or crystals all I need to do is make it Star Wars Battlefront 2 battlegrounds or battle royale or battle extravaganza and then they'll make all their money back yeah they're gonna be rolling out a bunch of new mods over the coming months cool so there you go make it that and you'll do great twitch prime now offers free games every month Amazon just like spending that money hey pretty nuts apparently games for March six to a predominant played a great game oxen-free shadow tactics mr. shifty and tales from candlekeep tomb of annihilation next month we'll be tales from the borderlands steamworld dig to Kingsway Tokyo 42 and dub Wars much like humble bundles I would be surprised if these stay awesome and it will ok it also looks kind of like they've got one more headliner game in each one and then some other ones which may or may not be cool but I'm not super familiar with them twitch Prime is included with Amazon Prime by the way so I mean I already would have recommended an Amazon Prime membership so I guess I recommended a little tiny bit more yeah um at the same time if you don't want the entire world to be taken over maybe consider not by Broadcom is not buying Qualcomm anymore because the US government blocked it it's official and SpaceX is trying to reach Mars in 2019 though SpaceX cool thanks for watching the land show see you again next week same bat-time same bat-channel the web show like 40 minutes of one thing and then like Hello by the way some other stuff like the the timestamps this week are gonna be like four things Wow we had a lot of viewership this vid you should like you guys super all 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