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Nvidia and AMD are FRIENDS NOW! - WAN Show August 11, 2017

2017-08-11
boom we are live baby oh man it has been a prick I think calling it a rough week would be a gross understatement like disgusting understatement it has been so tiring like shot three LT t's shot and reviewed three fats and also moved into a new office space went to the strata meeting for our building complex here dealt with the inspector failing us oh also by the way I found out we are going to have to clear the path to at least one of the rear doors that are now covered behind sets do I need to go on like can I just you know go off for a bit here about know how this week went because I want to know more of open doors we have had all hands on deck basically reorganizing this entire place for three days and with all the stuff that people had to do and just with all the stuff that needed to be done it has been a nightmare like if you guys have seen any behind the scenes footage we're going to have a whole organization vlog series coming because that's the only way that we can get around to cleaning stuff up is by vlogging about it but like that unit on the other side of this wall that I'm pointing right there that wall the brown wall the unit on the other side their total disaster if you were ever wondering what happens when you tell a dozen people hey there's an empty unit so like if there's any overflow it goes in there if you're ever wondering what that looks like after six months boy do I ever have the answer for you a little fun like that by the way Colton that that crate that you just saw that is leftover /ex when show stuff and then that an Techland boy is the recreation of Linus's first pc so that could be like a charity auction thing for LTX next year or something I don't know what else we would do with it so like oh and like the kind of crap that we're cleaning up like we're talking the rotted out husks of old CRTs and like I meant literally rotting house like oh no no but like dangerous yeah and like furniture that we haven't used in months like the the couch that used to be on the ltte set that just went to unit 101 oh this was a good one this was a really good one so you know those old shelves we had back at the Langley place in the background yeah okay though that was like the old a roll when we were shooting in the dining room you know like wood code yeah the wood color ones okay so all the shelves for them we're in a scrap wood bin and then those with just the MiG shelves had just like a plank across them and were being used as like a warehouse rack and I'm kind of sitting here going you know we actually have scattered around the two warehouses many many pieces of warehouse racks that could have been assembled to make a warehouse rack but like to be clear I understand why people are doing these things a lot of the time because they don't have time to solve the problem properly and we're like constantly working at a frantic pace around here like I get it that just doesn't make it not frustrating and yeah so lots of people moved locations random acts are in the camera den now I'll Luke has his own office have their office baby it's cool I stole to the beanbag chairs yes all that I will have the comfiest meetings ever with my employees that are they will have the comfiest meeting my friend called me they were like dude you have the comfiest meetings yeah I know it's it's it's weird it's very weird because I've been with John for like two years actually slightly more than that because in the previous office I was also with John so you upgraded your workspace because you have an office with a door but I downgraded your neighbor yeah yeah and I because I don't have one anymore yeah and I do massive right now New York but he's not like he has to sit next to Nick but there's like a big wall and stuff like John I had a communal space and now like I got Brandon's old desk yeah my actual usable desk space probably went down yeah a little actually like 30-something percent yeah like it's actually a I used to have all three of my monitors and quite a bit of usable space if I have all three of my monitors and that's where the desk and maybe I was sending a message of what about all the that you don't need to keep on your desk anymore I'm probably gonna get another desk - yeah mostly because I want more monitors so yeah I'm going to put monitors there I'm probably going to go like I like it all in that one in Craigslist for like 25 bucks each cuz I just need junk Oh crappy monitors to do that server monitoring right I don't mean ice one you know we could probably figure out is like we have a knife in it East and that I don't think anyone knows what yes like maybe we could anyway that would you know like before you do furniture for your office you're going to want to oh wow that looks really different and it doesn't anyway we'll solve that later oh yeah we moved the lens show yeah sort of yeah so it's like 10 feet back from where it was the camera is now is essentially where the desk was that more or less before frankly I don't think it makes a huge difference to the quality of the show I mean this show wasn't great quality anyway and I think it's gonna be a lot easier for people to move around now it's not like right in the middle of a high-traffic area so this is interesting you didn't know this oh sorry before no before you do for an insurer stuff in there check with Yvonne because like there will probably be like I'll plan already like we might be able to get you like some shelving I'm not I'm staffer worried about that like we'll deal with it but Tom the head on a little notepad of both things that I like one the hexagon wall from the spaceship so the plan is to just lift that up you know the RGB wall yes okay I think that's just going to go like right here well that's cool yeah yeah because the spaceship is dumb and needs to go like getting rid of that yeah we're getting rid of the spaceship and we're just turning that whole area into like a condo alright actually yeah coming back to the final inspection so the theory was that the inspector would come in and look only at the new tenant improvement and that was actually why we built the new tenant improvement like a half a centimeter away from the old one so that it would actually be a completely separate structure so the inspector will not come look at our old tenant improvement because if they did that then any code changes in the last two and a half years would have to be retrofitted to that one you don't want that that's a big problem yeah okay so it turns out they also want to look at the warehouse space because that's under the new tenant improvement so that needs three exits to the outside and I thought that those two front doors would still count but technically one of those front doors which is now enclosed and is a dedicated exit for the new improvement because it needs dedicated exits because it's not actually technically part of the old improvement that doesn't count for the warehouse even though assuming that the employees of Lynas Media Group are not a bunch of raving idiot I'm sure people would be able to figure out to open one more door to get to the outside and there are already two exits but we need three so those ones are technically sort of obstructed right now well that one definitely is well on the one behind where the the long-term dust project that one definitely is too so there's one here one there we only have two so the good news is that we were planning to rearrange some stuff anyway that way so workshop is maybe going there but then maybe also staying here because like it's pretty I like this that it's the one that I still really like yeah but the green screen is going to shrink and then we have condos are going to move this way but then what we could do is we could maybe come get our final inspection while that stuff's kind of torn down and in flux and then maybe the inspector could GTF out of here and then if there ever was a fire there would actually be two full exits for the maximum like five people that are ever in the where I know there would definitely be 3 3 full exits people for the 5x5 exit yeah many all the exits we have the best exit which America pay for the exit those jokes like just never get old I know right it's like I have an intro of the show yet oh right yeah anything else crazy happen this week Thomas the inspector part anything else crazy I don't know all the things like it was like archaeology town around here man like honestly organization vlog could be as much fun as moving vlog because even though we didn't know I don't I don't know yeah yeah someone broke into my van and it's also we're talking about yeah no I'm not going to give up so like I was a good so yeah but like I'm a really loud trafficked honestly we've actually here wrap your brain around this okay I'm about to blow your mind all right we've been in here longer than we were in the Langley house no I know I had that realization I walked out of my office today to come down to here and was like bye office and then just like brain wave hit me and I fell over into a beanbag chair so I was like holy crap because I was like I was like that felt more impactful than leaving the old office and I was like I wonder why I was like oh wow we did in there forever yeah yeah they're not crazy what's your anniversary on Monday it's your - you want years yeah is that past the point where I can just fire you for no cause and with no notice is it Matt Matt Matt hahaha that's like yeah dog alright well then I guess you're so much in Colton yeah we're going on the team let's see some ads hahaha I'll get to the ads later at it later um so yeah there's actually like more archaeology to do here yeah then there was there and you remember how frickin O'Reilly's nuts yeah that place was so yeah it's going to be a lot of fun and there's a lot of personalities involved okay things got snippy hello cuz like I know you weren't here that is awesome the teen chat though things have gotten a little snippy you know there have been some there have been some messages to the group chat about it grading people's ability to park their cars yeah are enough back from the sidewalk yeah um you know like there's been no that was probably a little over the line sassy and so yes that's that's gotten real this week about I mean wow I'm like on a train yeah I mean while you're on a train I can't really tell about what my event was retrieving our broken company van yeah which was like so I was expecting this train trip to be horrible and we got two hours of sleep beforehand yeah docked but like it's a train trip so whatever yeah I got held over at the border they didn't want to let me down because they couldn't understand what I was going down at me del lab me well they're like why are you going here I need Union and you do right now that don't really don't know I guess I remember they're like they're wondering why I was going so far to pick up the vehicle and then like stopping off somewhere else that's not a question it wasn't my vehicle to fare class and then he kept on getting confused what who I worked for okay which was really difficult enough Aaron question well not really because he would be like who do you work for and be like Linus Media Group who owns a vehicle Linus McGee group okay so is it your vehicle is like no it's the company what companies Linus Media Group no thank you so you did make it pretty easy on him yeah like it wasn't it wasn't super complicated Oh cousin yeah we got pulled in and it wasn't it just took an annoying amount of time when like there's a train that's going to leave right by left intentionally like way early so I ended up being totally fine which is part of the reason why I got such a small amount of sleep or whatever and then the Wi-Fi on the train was legendary no streaming of any kind of loud yeah not even a lot of your music okay any files above 10 Meg's they just killed really yeah you can you know you can VPN it usually yeah some of the some of the eyeliner on the ferry in half like I'm not new to that but it's just like ah alright come on come on and then so I get down there get the vehicle to find trigger rods shop it's amazing yeah holy cow his CNC is incredible it's so it's expensive but it's badass um rods pretty dope and then I went up to Microsoft and things happened and then you guys will hear about that later yeah so by my week was definitely more eventful than yours I mean might was pretty eventful yeah yeah you know but we wouldn't know that no right good owned right um alright so I guess we should get into the news for the week we haven't even rolled the intro well we go without looking at the doc okay I beg a thread Ripper core i9 maybe Nvidia did something yeah cool don't call intro get it through it all the first topics are i9 thread Ripper in Vegas sick-sick bra I'm trying to see if invidious something but I don't think so maybe it just wasn't newsworthy because like it didn't make it into the circle jerk right yeah am I allowed to say Circle Jerks while I'm flashing our sponsor logos on the screen let's just hope they don't look at that part alright and yeah it must be the land show that's weird i resized it not look so different to me kind of under yeah we could probably move it a little closer even try and take out even less me set there yeah all right so why don't we move into our first tech topic of the week so the core i9 CPU lineup specs have been finalized this is according to PC per and it was posted by the Benjamins over on the forum now there was a lot of speculation that the reason that Intel wasn't finalizing some aspects of their of the rest of the core I 9 lineup was because they had no idea if they were going to be able to make these bloody things based on how much power they were going to consume and how much heat they were going to output which ok is kind of a weird trend can I just say if these processors being a huge amount of power he's going to heat Vega huge amount of power huge amount of heat where for the last longest time it's just like those things don't matter because they're just constantly going down well that's I guess what what competition does is it forces you to push the envelope a little bit yeah which is cool so here we go so skylake X goes up to 18 course as we already knew but this is some interesting stuff a little turbo up to 4.4 gigahertz at turbo boost max speeds and little turbo boost at Turbo Boost 2.0 speeds of up to 4.2 gigahertz so that's uh that's pretty sick I guess it'll cost 2 grand which we already knew and it'll have 18 cores 36 threads as we already knew so the pricing looks like from 7900 X which is kind of the flagship right now at a thousand bucks you're going to pay two hundred two hundred three hundred then another three hundred to get twelve fourteen sixteen and eighteen course respectively and they pretty much are all going to turbo the same except the seventy nine hundred X and the seventy eight twenty which are going to hit 4.5 gigahertz so those are your single thread kings if you need a high core cam processor because otherwise you're just getting a seventy seven hundred K because you're not stupid enough to spend money on an LGA 2066 motherboard so you can put a seventy seven forty on it how that stacks up with thread Ripper is that basically multi-core at the same core counts performance is going to look fairly similar remember skylake is a generation behind kb lake on the consumer side so that is one fewer generational improvement that AMD has to fight with on this platform so at similar core counts they're going to perform pretty similarly except maybe a little less for AMD because their max turbo is four gigahertz but what AMD brings to the table is higher base clocks so in those highly threaded workloads AMD is going to look pretty good and they bring lower pricing to the table so your sixteen core is going to cost a thousand bucks so mg is going head-to-head against intel's ten core and their twelve core gets to go up against somewhere between and eight corn a ten core but that eight core is actually kind of kneecapped with only twenty eight PCIe lanes versus red rippers full 64 and then the 1900 x is that kind of weirdo skew where it's only got eight core 16 threads just like the consumer top end risin seven but it's got 64 PCIe lanes for being able to put like lots of GPUs or other devices on it and Nick need something what can I do for you you need me like water like the other one I'm going to show you guys something while Linus is gone that I just think is absolutely wonderful is that what I opened it on the wrong computer it's okay I'll figure this out perpetual window talk so this happened on Twitter you guys might have seen it it was pretty popular on the reddit today but Nvidia tweeted out welcome back AMD thread Ripper and the GeForce 1080 TI makes a compelling pair it's interesting because yet remember that there are technically separate business groups the graphics cards and the CPUs on AMD side so Nvidia is like totally okay with doing stuff like this who the flight is coming in one second I think with that we're going to move on Wow oh okay hold up how do we turn this back on does it automatically you can talk normally it just automatically turns back on okay so unfortunately a light that is like right here was unplugged and it takes like a long time for it to heat up which does that make sense because it was already hot Oh we'll figure it out get back you're in a vacuum here right now oh no I know unplugging that you okay anyway sorry moving on who enter max who's going to have the first out of the gate a IO four thread Ripper I'm going to drop this into the chat and then try to get it up on screen we were quick I don't see it warming up so I'm really not sure about that yeah that might be a good idea what's up what's up we're going to talk about trade routes first waterblock and I showed off yeah Colton that I simply unplug that I showed this up he accidentally copyright strike our own channel while he's at it yeah you heard me Colton I showed this off real quick oh cool what yeah that's what happened on Twitter no yeah you know with how much bad blood there is between those two companies like that almost comes across as like throwing shade man yeah like oh man that is like honestly like the way okay so first of all so AMD did segment the company so they switched over to you guys so that when you're going Andy and radio technologies group so like technically in videos just talking to the CPU so yeah and technically a lot of the bad blood really is between Nvidia and ATI yeah that's how far back it goes but like the engineering teams they like the engineering team and AMD contains ATI people still like first shirt yeah like there's a lot of lifers that are still around there um hey Brandon is it like coming back so here-here-here not a sign sign all right I don't see it warm enough I got a solution here look it's not it's not what oh nice yeah yeah we use the flashlight flashlight on the phone baby there we go no problem okay we got this we got this so what's what's your vibe what's your vibe genuine genuine welcome back to the enthusiasts party or or are they throwing shade like like haha you weren't you weren't around for five years I would give them benefited out here you would give Nvidia the benefit of the doubt when it comes to crapping on AMD okay but it is crapping on them the welcome back mmm-hmm the welcome back part is crapping on them but they are legitimately saying like we think our GPUs will work well with your CPUs which they will yeah and they are legitimately saying that so I think they're like like to the guy who like goes on vacation for a year and then scores his first touchdown after like a really really really long time and you're like welcome back you did a good job it gets a little sassy but at the same time you're like okay good job or it's just broken now yeah it's possible that we like hey it's on okay oh lordy okay what else we got in the news this hearing train Wow world's worst throw sorry this is interesting so this is supposed to buying Ritter knack on the forum or thread Ripper news the Iridium is gone it's warming up now you guys will ya come on right it's coming it's done the original article is from Tom's Hardware okay so there was a lot of controversy over Intel's I don't even remember the stupid features called anymore but they're bootable raid that bypasses the PCI Express controller and the chipset and go straight off the C ah Bob something something rocks dang it d-roc so vrock Intel's software raid that's running straight off the CPU that's bootable there's a lot of controversy over Intel's intention to allow users to upgrade to it with like a hardware like enabling key that they have to plug into the network although so I'll give them this though they were a step ahead of AMD who is straight up not able to support bootable nvme raid at all right now so there you go many people do you think this excludes ok two answers answer number one very few yeah answer number two within the community of users that are going to buy it or buy a thousand dollar processors yeah $400 motherboards if I'm spending this kind of money on a motherboard I better have cashola to the wrong one and be MLA but even then buying a one terabyte nvme Drive it's just your bootable Drive and then doing other stuff with other things like hard drives and whatnot for like huge amounts of story to be on that seems pretty reasonable I think yeah even my crazy stupid over built computer just has one nvme drive and and it's lightning fast and I can't tell the difference between the stuff that's on the state of rape yeah as it's pretty fast having like three really quick SSDs in raid 0 so there aren't a ton of of consumer applications for nvme raid boot drives however drives that's that's the part that I'm trying to make very clear that I'm talking about it you can always software raid nvme drive yeah that's been I have a software rate of ng me drives that we're running our editing server awesome yeah so we're not really talking about boot pro yeah and honestly I have a hard time telling the difference between an nvme boot drive and even a good SATA SSD boot drive like not even read zero unless I'm hitting it pretty hard yeah however Red River is being targeted at the workstation user as well as the enthusiast who's just like Cooper given what's best girls are going to go faster and just like buying more nvme drives even though they know they can't tell the difference and on the workstation where you're working with some like huge data set or something we're talking 16 cores crunching it you could run into an i/o bottleneck well how do you care about it being on the boot drive also they're enabling the future in the future so this is kind of an odd story and I know that weren't at Lourdes okay now just Mouse's mostly like it barely matters and it only matters for a limited period yes all right this is kind of okay this is one of those things where like it's kind of like Intel having okay so Intel had support for our nvme raid within there what's that stupid rst rapid orange technology or SR - no rst their rapid storage technology like their driver like software raid doodad that lives in the film track so yeah okay so they had support for nvme raid going back quite a quite a ways but the problem for me when I bought that 48 nvme murder if you'll I'm sorry I shouldn't say bought because Super Micro sent it to me but I bought the drives that laminate going back quite a ways and so remember making the video for like the first Drive let alone right anyways okay so when I got the 48 Drive server I ran until these problems trying to create a raid array because it turned out that it was capped at 12 devices I was like well this is a spectacularly first world problem very few people like like you know no one else had ever brought it up to Super Micro I was like hey so you've got this 48 drive enclosure like how do you run all the drives together they're like nobody's ever like what do you mean nobody's ever asked like well don't take this the wrong way Linus but most of the people using a device like this I know what they're doing I mean they said it a lot nicer than that like way nicer than looks okay but it was pretty savage and I got all the way to like what are there like a like class support texts and the guys just like yeah like we're shipping this crap to like you know Tier one software companies like they've got their own proprietary crap they're running on it like like there's like four tching Linux distros to like build their own yeah freaking thing and I'm like so like you know you got a number for someone over there if anyone asked me after all like Oh brutal yeah so I end up with Windows storage spaces which is what you great by the way boom which is working great by the Working Group what for me what's not working great I I have I've talked to multiple people about it I tried to set up my system with storage spaces oh yeah do you remember cuz the like evidence lots of problems with those two boards the first one wouldn't do with certain RAM configuration yeah yeah the second one I had just no raid setup yeah it just didn't exist on the board at all yeah so I was like uh yeah high storage spaces and everyone was like it'll be fine yeah I'm fine for everything except for Ubisoft games oh really okay with that I didn't see coming Dean games launched fine yeah origin games ma I think I've had problems with like one or two and they were like super retro II ones all the new ones work fine and then every single Ubisoft game doesn't work at all you know you have an AZ anyway if I were you I would just be soft and Ivan the mirror is yeah doesn't matter yeah it's just it's just annoying like why am i okay we could definitely blame Ubisoft here but at some degree it's probably I wouldn't be surprised if it's both sides to a little like a little bit yep I don't know I think you and as also supports ice geysers you could set up a nice cozy to be totally fine yeah that would probably I would probably do it um I'd be loading games off hard drives I don't want to put everything over there yeah right yeah oh this is cool let's just supposed to buy the angry computer masher on the forum the original article is from video cards apparently red ripper water blocks are coming which is important because red ripper is also a human written yeah so it's available in a variety of different colors there's red there's silver it's a variety of sorts and if by a company called Biscay by ski the chinese there are so many chinese case and like cooling manufacturers that I had never freakin heard of when I went over to Computex like cognitively I'm aware that there is a billion people in China and cognitively I'm aware that that's as many people as there are in North America and like I think most of Europe combined like cognitively I'm aware of these things so it makes sense then that there would be like for every ek and Swift tech and in jeans whip tech right I've never heard of this company before I'm going to assume that they're bigger than both of them it could be so for every ek and every Swift tech there's probably a brand that exists solely within China that's that's bigger bigger and please there's got to be great for that company because then you only deal with that country yep issues and your shipping well it has some pretty special issues but right we've learned that yeah like apparently there's a whole like bribe economy in the tax system yeah so when you're paying local taxes there's like bribes that used to play along with the taxes and that can depend on like who the person is and what their status is and it changes over to almost impossible to automate and like like it's pretty it's pretty sketchy actually but yeah yeah but but you'd probably get used to it if you're there you're what life you get used to it and like shipping stuffs probably relatively simple for her over times of different borders not doing with all that although I think the last mile is legitimately by bicycle in China so there's that oh oh not all of them I mean shipping to like stores and stuff yeah but carry on well it's impossible that it's all of them no no okay yes not everything yes you have yep but looks like big apartment buildings yes yes yes I doubt you're shipping a thread Ripper to like uh-huh you know what we should go on a field trip to China at some point like I've been there now you've been there right but I was there for like 48 hours tops I similar yeah like I was like in my hotel room full planning almost the entire and like I was in a hotel that specifically had instructions for how to bypass the Great Firewall of China oh yeah my only exposure to it was like on TV something came on I was like like I know what's behind that but like why are you even bothering like huh I like I couldn't even figure out why they didn't want people to know about that specific thing that I was like oh yeah look at that they really do censor TV how about that but but it would be it would be interesting to just go see like Chinese land parties and like oh my god you know don't worry super cool like that would be pretty that'd be pretty fun like isn't one of Nvidia's like big like sort of like we're out of meters there I think so and we should try to meet with like a big Chinese like computer hardware reviewing group yeah I've been very interesting see what they do be like like a studios yo what's up yeah like how do Hardware reviews work in China cuz like honestly they're like what are your big brands yeah like the truly global manufacturers the guys like Intel yeah like they could put us in touch yeah for sure AMD would probably be easier actually because they're less segmented 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don't if it does it I'm just guessing so pretend skate maybe has a bigger legal team or something I don't know they are saying now friends on discord can watch each other play their favorite games while talking face-to-face that sounds weird I don't know if that's really going to be a thing but it might be a lot easier for streamers maybe you're just getting old maybe that's possible I could see it being a much bigger thing for streamers discord already has streamer mode and like ties into twitch where you can have all your subscribers in your twitch channel and all this kind of stuff and if you can have voice and video call streamers could have like a streaming room and be in streaming mode right and all kind of stuff and use that instead of like Skype for playing doing streams collaboratively right makes a lot of sense all right I've got a lot of good stuff on floatplane this week actually we've got the cheapest PC case on the market oh man we found it we ha trotted that's not out of it it's actually awesome and I like looks really cool it's actually sick Alex did a great job I love how now that we have like Alex and these other guys yeah it's like oh this thing sucks will like tear the trash out of it and like make fun of it and then make it awesome sort of mod that's right baby 4k gaming at 120 Hertz on a DIY monitor what yeah baby way did you make that wait it's a kid okay that's cool unboxing da real razor Tulsa is Nvidia ruining your performance by sandbagging their drivers oh that's a trigger II video I know I know but it had to be done course it had to be done um we've got a couple of others we've got a lot of behind the scenes logs and stuff like that you got a couple tech quickies crappy-ass sli setup of all time we've had a lot of simultaneous releases lately so it's pushed out some pretty old videos that have been taking a while to make their way to the platform but we've got some but like it kind of in place of that there has been a lot of wool sounds on there has been a lot of like good moving stuff yeah I've actually got one more vlog and then I'm going to start doing some meet the team pieces because people have asked for like kind of proper intros to some of the new people you know what's interesting talking about stuff on YouTube now that did really well on Flo plain as well and if you're on full plane you would have seen it earlier is the the Pippen video yeah did you really hope people love that know going do it's beating the thread Ripper 1.1 million amuse on I maybe did it helped that we had a sealed well some people were pretty salty that we opened that thing hey really yeah they were like that was what vintage and I see their point like it was not sealed it's not like you can make a new not filled one I don't really agree with it we don't damage it I collect old games and stuff but in my opinion they're there to be played yeah see that's a philosophical thing though that a lot of collectors like okay so this is this is I hear like I I know that there is a lot of people that view it this way I just don't personal so the stupid tangent um my one of my wife's friends daughter is turning one okay and so Yvonne is getting for her daughter something that's really for her mom because like what does the one-year-old do with a toy eat it and she started collecting Polly Pockets do you remember Polly Pocket and mighty max oh you're younger than me I know I know like people that I knew were you wrong people that I knew were into it I wasn't I don't know about like kids my age were into that stuff okay fine so anyway just just for like for balls she's started collecting Polly Pockets and she has a little like thing for them and stuff and I was looking into it and Polly Pockets and Mighty Max for that matter are one of those toys where I can legitimately see how the field one would have a lot more value than the non field one because the pieces are so small and there's it's really hard to track down exactly what they're supposed to come with but it's a lot of value to sell yes so tell me what if I bought it to play with it so if you not to sell it if you collected Mighty Max let's say for example okay no what no let's say you collected Polly Pocket not judging I'm just sure thing no let's call me what you would play either way would you buy something would you collect something like that to sell or would that be more of just ladies I mean he's like if I'm away collecting it to sell then in my opinion that's a business what if you collected it just to own it because that was one that I would want to do something with it you would want to do something want to play with my little Polly so you would take it out of the package even if it's just to like put it on a nice display case and like create like a little like and I feel like and I have done that because I have I the Halos Master Chief helmet understand that's out of care package again statue thing from Skyrim okay I have soldier 76 I have master sword in a stone I have the chick from horizon zero dawn I have a few little statue a kind of thingy that right kind of around my house I think they look really cool if they were in their box it would be the game box or plain white foam okay all right fair enough which sounds super lame honestly looking at these mighty maxes and Polly Pockets man I think there is a legitimate business model there of just buying like like actually huge Kwanzaa I'm like that's of like every way go ahead but like I'm the person that's buying it and then using it right cuz like if you want to buy it to resell it sure nostalgia man like as my customer darling I was nostalgia of a Pippin yeah I guess that's a fair point like a maximum of 42,000 people if everyone loved it yeah and I like pretty much guarantee that's not what happened so I'm kind of thinking okay this is our next but we just forget it forget this Linus Media Group thanks group hey you and I just no one else is listening right normal moment oh okay so you and I are going to go into business okay we're just going to find cheap storage space nice and everything someone's probably sewing there's no that we're out of it right right okay every new stupid crappy trend you know we buy like a pallet of it perfect okay we buy a pallet of it users store it all Indiana Jones warehouse style okay and then we just wait for 20 years because I do not like sealed Polly Pockets going for like 80 100 bucks yeah we're talking a 10x increase in value over 20 years that's actually a not pretty and bad return I bet you just gotta nail it every time you don't even have to if you get it right half of the time you can probably flip it for something the other parts of the time exactly it's like you know it's a really good business model right now actually would you share kind of writing Tecna is making like advertising more aggressively and getting better SEO using trendier websites than companies that are actually doing what they're supposed to be doing and just buying knockoffs from China like there was this new bra thing that's like kind of a sticker and then you pull the thing in and it pulls I don't know how it works I don't get it oh it was like that looks plush up bra right yeah yeah there was a lot of online pop-up shops that happened and it's essentially like little mall kiosks but on the Internet and they just pop up with crazy SEO they advertise through like Facebook and YouTube super aggressively here like really really aggressively so that they're always in your newsfeed and you're just like oh I've seen this advertised everywhere I guess that's the one that I've seen that people are talking about I guess I'll just buy that one and you may get something if it's just super generic you just buy a crap ton of them ship them over on like a drop ship and then just throw up a whole bunch of different you could even have one company that just has like a hundred websites there are a lot of like skeevy crappy ways to make money aren't there yeah some people are bringing up fidget spinners in the twitch chat and honestly here's what I would kind of tell you because I think they were being kind of sarcastic but here's the thing and some of you might not be old enough to appreciate this yet but nothing is as good now as it was when I was a kid and I actually mean that objectively wagon wheels would be a perfect example candy that was delicious and tastes like utter trash now but like there's actually been changes to the recipe yes honey nut cheerios are another example when I was like six they were awesome avoid them they killed honey nut cheerios yeah like poor marques who loves his honey nut cheerios so much has never even tasted honey nut cheerios had the good old days ones okay so anyway here's what will happen with something like fidget spinners they'll come back but they'll be crappier so if you bought a bunch of cheap ones today that would be a bad play but if you bought a bunch of like premium and specialty ones like a bunch of like cool ones or ones with like a timeless branding like I don't know if Pokemon is timeless but something like ah man I don't know about like Toy Story but like like like Gundam branding like some kind of really resilient anime or something like that a really high-quality one from like a reputable maker a pallet or two of those would be worth a gold mine 20 years old I'm sure the owners even like a dude perfect ones no I okay nothing against dude perfect but I wouldn't bet on any youtuber including ourselves these are two short-lived it's potentially to flash-in-the-pan through um and you look at every youtuber has what I call the curve where they go yeah they go like sorry I'm going to go across your face because I was writing behind thing where they go like this everybody grows really slow at the beginning because that's that's the nature of the algorithm and then they grow and then they plateau and then they decline and sometimes it's a slow decline and sometimes some comeback Phil DeFranco iJustine these are examples of creators that that bucked the curve and and you can also just kind of flat yeah and then manage come back up again and again flat and then you'll go up again and then you'll fly yeah but that curve I've seen it so many times and there can be a thousand reasons not got into TV yep just lost their passion team fell apart got bored yet decided to form a an MCN didn't adjust with the current like meta didn't adjust that means they're fun nails I just didn't care anymore like there's a thousand reasons why people fade off the platform but I have seen very few examples of turning your platform success once you are no longer supporting the YouTube audience into some kind of actual sustainable off platform success I think Harley from Epic Meal Time would be an example but I do you have to wonder if his fortunes today would actually be even better if you had stuttered YouTube for longer because YouTube is kind of like the investment phase of a modern web video production business it's like it's like where you're burning money it's like when you got your seed funding and the see the funding might just be your own time yeah but that's where you're investing into the business and you're growing the audience and then there's like a monetization phase where people might try to go off platform or they might try to US soldiers open a merge store their nitrite or they might try to do PewDiePie as mobile game where they try to monetize in other ways if PewDiePie spent all his damn time on his mobile game then the plateau would happen because the YouTube audience and investing into that audience and growing it is how you open up new opportunities for all that other stuff down the line yeah and basically the second you stop focusing on YouTube that's where you start to see a decline generally speaking some people are like uh this guy because you didn't like call them out like yeah it not the point yeah the point isn't any particular individual right now this is this is a greater observation about the platform yeah um anyway feel like we've gotten a little a little off topic this was supposed to by mr. troll on the forum the original article has Delta from W CCF Tech so you can take it with a grain of wucf tech but AMD is rumored to be building once again a dual AMD top-of-the-line GPU card which would surprised me a lot but apparently they're going to throw a couple of Vega 10x T's on a single graphics card really Wow only nearly 600 watts of power draw because yellow oh um Wow I would recommend not buying it if they make it like directly and that's the end of that chapter over 50 teraflops of SP 16 compute 25 teraflops of FP 32 compute so this thing is like it's almost like a workstation card except that they're going to Ares gamer brand it out to the ninth it's 600 watts per single card you know and you just put two the power supply makers have to be just giddy right now oh yeah because for the first time in quarters a 1500 watt power supply might actually be necessary like I'm serious if you went 18 from what I'm hearing rumor is an 18 core core i9 but who is doing this just hold on that's what I don't know know that that's what I don't understand these new processors that everyone's pushing in the consumer space are not consumer processors I do it like I don't understand why everyone like unread and all this kind of stuff it's freaking out over these processors who's why are you buying are you buying this why are you buying this it's not for you it's not for me okay well it is anyone care okay now you could have used a computer with that much wattage before you just bought server part okay let me go let me go I'm a lazy finish but now let us go ahead it's just so stupid I don't I don't know it's a chicken and egg thing though will we ever get software development that is really and truly honestly multi-threaded if it doesn't come to the high end I think we're going to wait for clumps and eventually trickle down I think we're gonna wait for Chrome to consoles yeah but it's got to start somewhere so can we be excited just for the beginning at night even if we don't I is like all this helmet that's true but Knights corner didn't have single threaded performance like these new ones do it's true because they're like there that every go when people are like like that one's too expensive it's like are you gonna buy the other one is that one more affordable this is the happier chill in the red I need you product right now okay but think about it this way - what about the youth market three years from now use market on the $2,000 profit yeah it but it okay it would be like you know 600 bucks cuz we've seen the curve in three years yeah before there would be cheaper at least the process is finally starting because here's the thing for the power supply makers for all this time they've had a product that you have no legitimate bear baits they tried to be the first one out so they're like everyone else can now make things that need water so ever there were no there was no upgrade path at all yeah whereas now there is legitimately okay when all of my baller friends get tired of their Vegas 64's and buy something more efficient probably and there and there you know core i9 because word on the street is like overclocked you could be looking at hundreds II not a couple hundreds of watts through 18 core core i9 through the socket okay so you know I could buy this stuff for pennies on the dollar and have legitimately a baller ass gaming machine but I but I need a ball a power supply for so like scrapyard wars 2026 is going to be bangin yeah pretty much and and and like the one thing that we're going to make sure that we invest in this time is a good power supply yeah like a really good one yeah yeah um what else we got here Paris is apparently considering eSports for the 2024 Olympics which I like iifa tackle I've defended eSports on the LAN show against you for years and I think this is so dumb yeah I would be down with there being like an eagle in this sure but that should be like it should be like okay and don't take this the wrong way or for me but it should go Olympics Paralympics and then Olympics because quite frankly even if you just see it as like this one into the gate the audience overlap is like negligible yeah probably you could run them at the same time no cuz then I think that's like oh okay think about like you know households with one screen you know okay yeah yeah yeah Junior doesn't want to fight with Grandpa over you know who's got the TV yeah um but you know what do we got here they'll consider an inclusion as a medal event according okay Louie you got to read this quote you hask you right there we have to look at it because we can't say it's not us it's not about Olympics and the next word they use yes they are interested in eSports in this kind of thing let's look at it let's meet them let's try and see if we can find some bridges the youth they like they like the electronics we need to find a way to incorporate it so that the users are interested oh my goodness all right ah this was supposed to buy the Beast PC on the forum the original article is from Tom's guide this is apparently what the iPhone 8 looks like it's an iPhone 8 dummy unit and it's a video gangnet it looks like a more country looks like a Marquez video I like that that carpet right there that noodle doesn't have is that thing that I told them to put on it when I inspected his studio um okay I don't see how that goes hi wow I can't actually believe how much I hate this really I don't mind it oh I think because the screen extends on each side of it caravan I think it's just a way to get more screen real estate because you have like little notification things up there like your battery state stuff is in line with the camera I don't mind it at all personally that I really hope that's not the touch sensor on the back that is pure cancer right in the middle is my ring I don't yeah or me I didn't thanks huh I thought it was up a little bit ah no you might be right actually that might be closer to the LLG approach I mean I'm not remember without my phone on me Wow I actually don't remember the last time I was that not caring about a I thought apparently it's not in the middle at all oh yeah okay I'm sorry apparently it'll have wireless charging it'll still have a camera bump on the back and this is ridiculous okay this is supposed to by snorting frogs on the forum we have been hounding Seagate to let us play with their 60 terabyte SSD since they announced it like a year ago they still haven't gotten one to us and now they announced a 64 terabyte nvme SSD gosh darn it you guys know I'm real upset now I'll just ask for this one instead there you go Disney to pull their content from Netflix this is originally from Bloomberg this is a big deal actually yeah so the happy ecosystem that we're you just pay one flat fee and you get pretty much all the content that you could want is getting fragmented so much for the idea of pulling the plug or cutting the cord or whatever it's called a tide commercial so much for cutting the cord and being able to get pretty much everything you want for like 15 bucks a month in 4k it is you're going to have to start building your own cable package the way you used to subscribing to a bunch of different services and there is a huge gap that is that just got formed in the market for someone who's the aggregator who's like okay but basically a cable network you know the online cable network is coming where they're just like our platform where you buy your your Disney and your Netflix and your other packages you view it all in one space and it uses all the API is to bring together a nice little thing or words what can be put I think the TV makers are gonna jump on them do you think there's gonna be like a sim I think Google could jump on this yeah I think Samsung is going to try and do their own thing with Tizen I think you're like Google might fail I think I think Google is going to try to do it through YouTube and people are going to want I don't think they will I think they're going to do it through devices like the Nvidia shield TV because remember too that there are TV manufacturers including Sony that bake full Android experiences into there too yeah yeah but there's people that want this on their laptop the trend of like yeah it's like the university girl watching that books all the time on her macbook it's like that's on her macbook not on her TV it would be interesting for flex to go after it I don't think Plex would have the I don't think Plex would have an ago I don't think they'd have a seat at the negotiation team come on Plex further but some of their support of piracy all these years they're like who or don't support piracy but support a piracy for all these years I don't think they win a chance to talk about this interesting so I'll be interested to see where this goes but one way or another Disney pulled their catalog from Netflix they will stop supplying Disney and Pixar branded movies starting in 2019 and launch an online product of their own going directly to consumers this is part of the reason why Linus started it and I've been doing it for a little while now I've been like collecting when they go on crazy sales on Amazon blu-ray copies of yep movies and TV shows that I'm personally really interested in because like yep oh yeah it's on Netflix then it might just disappear on who knows I'd like to be clear I said I'm still going to have a Netflix subscription and I do as well but the blu-ray does look a lot better if you're a big snob and if you're like a crazy fanatic of a certain show or movie there's extras and some are really cool I really like commentary yeah that's one of my things I've always really liked like one of my favorite things ever was the making of DVD for I think it's halo 2 or halo 3 I remember which one that was amazing I love making of things and I love commentaries I really like interviews with producer sectionally yeah like honest vessel the making of usually how the interviews with Larry David on the on the Seinfeld complete collection that I got it I got at Costco like so cheap is awesome that's the thing you type them on sales don't buy them at full price that are really expensive like HMV shut down and I got like six seasons of Game of Thrones my gosh I was still I'm still not watching but like I know I'm going to watch them I got like a bunch of seasons of Walking Dead six seasons no I thought I think four seasons of Game of Thrones like six of Walking Dead which I still want to watch haven't even started it yet but yeah so so uh apparently they'll continue the relationship with Marvel Marvel TV I got bill out excellent adventure and Billa Ted's bogus journey in a combo pack for like $5 or something which was awesome oh oh okay now this might be a case of picking studies based on confirming your own bias but this is off TechCrunch apparently the some study finds and I haven't looked at their methodology at all but this is just funny to me because honestly I think fitness trackers are the stupidest most useless fad of all time against them um and they were both very for like echo Sentinel health and exercise and taking care of yourself I'm about that if you have to like track your steps you're really not doing it right yeah so Fitbit apparently turns teams off exercising wah-wah has to do with pressure from pressure from competition with peers encouraged in-app leaderboard and also all the other things that are like push push push compete against this other person only work for short term style motivational effects or and this is the other thing I believe that fitness trackers are great for people who were already going to be ripped as hell and exercising all the time anyway like it's one of those things where I don't see the fitness tracker as a as a solution if you're only going for steps yes that's another thing they mentioned here the uncomplete lean on personalized 10,000 steps per day target was cited as unfair and pressurising goal generating feelings of guilt or lack of ability among users like if you're working on it it's really different like very difficult for you to get 10,000 steps a day and you just feel like you're failing all the time to even like 9,000 steps but you're like really trying so what I met that's terrible I don't even know how to check it on you know oh crap I legitimately actually don't know how to check on here I never use the Apple watch so it's like I I should just switch to a watch exactly yeah I've said that for a while to start sharing your activity sync to the iPhone yeah I don't even have it sing to my phone right now um gamers Nexus tests the knob to a fan rumors so we'll post the original article here in the twitch chat already Oh alrighty then I knew you're gonna go into this next um they tested differences including appearance noise and effectiveness and the online community was quick to crap on noctua about this but it turns out the differences in the tooling we're mostly to do with just not just having two separate sets of molds at two different locations and two separate facilities that have different capabilities and tuning that took place between creating an original mold in a later mold and their quality standards haven't changed at all I was informed by Noctua that our LPT Edition fans were actually produced in China alone and the NFA 14 has been they were true yeah they were great the NFA 14 I believe has been over there for a long time but basically gamers Nexus got a larger sample and debunked the claims it was down to unit 2 unit variability for the original posts and basically it's all within margin of error there's no difference between China and Taiwan made fans except for the appearance and Noctua has always had issues with their color matching we've got old Knox yeah and the cream is closer to white and the brown is closer to like a reddish brown or closer to like oh yeah I particularly don't like yeah in terms of color the newer ones are not the video so there you go so let's pretty much it for the LAN show you have anything else to uh don't police I can't talk about what I did this week no I don't really believe so it's been a long weeks on and get out of here I actually have a bunch of stuff I have to card up to the second story over there after this anyway so okay all right well see you again next week same bat-time same bat-channel boy lots of yours today sixty-eight hundred almost 6900 man I'm pretty sick that's pretty sick d900 alright I guess Limited is up right I also noticed the kids once for these comes with a whole bunch of replacement ones so that even if you break the side off you can strip with tax tape that's actually pretty smart okay now what's up with kids yeah someone on their team has had a child
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