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PART 2 - Core i5 3570k vs FX-8350 Gaming WITH AA Linus Tech Tips

2013-03-20
this video is brought to you by our trusted graphics partner Nvidia welcome to part 2 of our 35 70 K versus 80 350 testing so just to reiterate we've already done no anti-aliasing on a number of popular games now what we've decided to do is crank up the details now any of the games where the maximum presets we're already factoring in high anti-aliasing settings those ones you're going to discover actually haven't changed whereas everything else what we're doing is we're taking our gtx 660ti which is the card we're using for our standard test bench and we are taxing it so we're looking at observe the GPU bound scenario what happens to the CPU in this situation because a lot of the hubbub right now is the 8350 which is an eight-core processor so we're running that on a crosshair v formula the 8350 is a very legitimate choice for a gaming platform if you're running at realistic settings now of course you could all day we could run quake three flybys and you know time how long it takes to run and run at 640 by 480 and that would really separate out the single-threaded cpu performance of every chip on the market but it's not realistic so that's why we're taking this this realistic approach where we have two identical test platforms in fact if this test platform except over there so we're running at the 8350 overclocked to 4.6 gigahertz we're running our 35 70 K overclock to 4.4 gigahertz the reason we chose those numbers was that we wanted something that is realistically attainable by you like 99% of the time so almost anyone running these chips can reach those frequencies with guides that have actually been published in videos that I've done in the past so there's really no excuse for not being able to do that so that's why we ran at those settings we're running eight gigs of mush Kin whatever it's called black line memory 1600 megahertz cl9 nothing special about it we're running a 128 gig vertex for SSD and Republic of gamers motherboards for both platforms some in wind power supply that doesn't really affect performance in any meaningful way and we're liquid cooling the CPUs using an H 100 from Corsair just so that we get good stability at those overclock settings so let's start with Metro 2033 in Metro 2033 the 35 70 K really pulls ahead of the 80 350 so this is on the high preset with anisotropic filtering at 16x and anti-aliasing at 4x our next one is dirt three and in dirt three we see the same situation where the 35 70 K pulls ahead by about 10% so this is out actually yeah this is a tangible wind but not something you're actually going to feel when you're playing the game itself in Skyrim we see another victory for the 35 70 K however it should be noted that in Skyrim were running 18 aftermarket mods from the Steam Workshop and we're not sure how those affect any optimizations that are made on a platform by platform basis so it's possible that our particular Skyrim setup is inherently runs better on Intel and unfortunately there's not really a whole lot we can do about that up next we've got battlefield 3 where the FX 8350 actually comes out ahead now battlefield 3 was one of the first really multi-threading aware triple-a gaming titles that you started to see a tangible benefit with more cores so FX 8350 doing well here actually makes a lot of sense because it is clocked a little bit higher did I say 4.4 gigahertz for the 35 70 K because what I meant was 4.2 sorry about that guys so what we see here is that with its higher frequency and the fact that it's multi-threading aware it does really well so we're running four times NSAA anti-aliasing next up we've got Crysis 3 so this is one of the ones where there's been a lot of discussion about how Crysis 3 is heavily multi-threading aware and I've seen I've even seen proclamations that the 8350 just you know wrecks the 35 70 K but those seem pretty isolated and the most of the data out there seems to support our conclusion which is that the 35 70 K a ekes out a victory here it's not by much it's only by about 10% but that for all intents and purposes they are very close in performance and I mean okay we're going to move on to our last benchmark here which is that's not our last one yeah they're very close in terms of performance so we're not really seeing the whole huge difference in performance favoring the 8350 far cry 3 is a different situation with the 8350 winning by 10% now the weird thing is both of these games are based on CryEngine 3 so it looks like whatever individual optimizations the game developers have put into there their titles for whatever reason one of them favors AMD more than the other one does so it tells us a couple of things number one Crysis 3 doesn't necessarily run better on AMD but number 2 CryEngine 3 can Starcraft 2 were including just kind of for lols but Intel runs away with this one Starcraft 2 seems to be heavily single-threaded performance dependent and our last title is crisis - so not Crysis 3 Crysis 2 where we see a very similar story to Crysis 3 with the 35 70k coming out by out ahead by about 10% so what does all this mean like what CPU should you actually buy it because remember guys 35 70k doesn't have hyper threading so when you have a heavily threaded workload say for example you're doing video rendering 3d rendering heavy heavy Photoshop use where you're going to be able to take advantage of those multiple course the 8350 may actually be a better choice for you because the 3570 is quad core and the 8350 is for bulldozer modules each of which is kind of like a core and a half so you're going to have just more horsepower more oomph to throw at heavily multi-threaded applications with that in mind I don't know what you're gesturing oh okay with that in mind the 35 70k does pull ahead in the single threaded heavy applications and does run cooler and does consume less power so depending on how much power costs in your particular area that may be a factor for you but it should be noted that you're looking at probably a few dollars a year in the actual power difference depending again on how much power costs in your area here in BC Canada it's cheap so it's not something that we think about nearly as much as if you lived say for example in California where it can be very expensive so I think that pretty much wraps it up they're both viable gaming platforms at the end of the day you have to look at the results go ok this is the average FPS am I going to notice the difference between 5 fps or 3 FPS or 10 FPS here and there if you think you will go for whichever one comes out on top and if you think you won't then go for whichever one is going to serve you better as an overall platform thanks for checking out this video on Linus tech tips as always don't forget to subscribe
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