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this video is brought to you by CM storm preferred choice of mice headsets and mechanical keyboards of curse gaming visit www.samhsa.gov/dtac 350 until vs AMD with a different spin on it we're going to be looking at windows 7 and windows 8 performance and showing you not only which is the best hardware platform for your gaming today but also which is the best software platform with a variety of games so I'd like to introduce you to our 2 test platforms first of all we've got the crosshair 5 formula with an FX 8350 at 4.6 gigahertz and 8 gigs of black line mush keen memory 1600 megahertz nothing special about its cl9 memory I know it looks special but that copperhead spreaders just for looks then our author bench is a 35 70 K at 4.2 gigahertz a Maximus 5 formula 8 gigs of that same memory for consistency and we're running a 660ti overclocked in both of the systems so we've got a Windows 8 and Windows 7 SSD and then we're running on an ax 850 with an H 100 for our cooling now the reason we went with those over clocks on the cpus is that they are overclocked but conservatively anyone with these chips should be able to attain these over clocks we've also overclocked them proportionally close to their maximum typically people are getting anywhere from 4.8 to 4.9 on an 80 350 and anywhere from around 4.4 to 4.5 on a 35 70 K so the real question here is why are we testing this and the reason for it is that you guys asked us to you asked us to do an in-depth examination of the 35 70 K versus the 80 350 and we want to look at it from every angle possible silver we've got a baby touching the mic can you let go of that sir alright so we're gonna be looking at it with anti-aliasing without anti-aliasing on Windows 8 on Windows 7 we're also going to be looking at some different scenarios like running higher speed memory on both platforms to see how that affects it so guys stay tuned make sure you're subscribed so that you're going to see all of our coverage of this another thing that I'd like to bring up on this one is the cost difference between these chips this was brought up on the last video they don't cost exactly the same especially when you factor in the different of the platform's so we ran a quick cost analysis here showing you guys that the platform's are not really quite equal so the 35 70k is around 220 to 240 bucks and the 8350 is around 200 to 220 bucks depending where you're shopping so there's already about a 20 dollar difference however we always factor in overclocking because we believe we've done enough guides on overclocking that any enthusiast should be doing it but you cannot overclock an Intel platform unless you have an overclocking friendly chipset like a z68 or z77 chipset however on AMD you can buy a cheapo 970 board and you can overclock your chip so our cheapest z77 board is a hundred and twenty bucks that we found where as our cheapest not even quite the cheapest but the cheapest one I'd be confident putting an eight core on was around eighty bucks so there is potentially up to a sixty dollar difference in the prices between these platforms but you might say you don't like to see us compare it you know non-equal chipset tears but even if you take boards that we would consider pretty equivalent like the crosshair 5 formula and the Maximus 5 formula there's a $50 difference in price between these boards now arguably the Intel board does have more bells and whistles so it has lighting effects on it and it has you know more onboard buttons and doodads and better onboard sound yes it does have things the AMD board doesn't but these are similar class of products and so you're looking at as much as a $70 difference then between the two platforms so bear that in mind as you look at the performance results that we're about to present in our first game Far Cry 3 which you can check out our benchmarking procedure for by clicking the link below we saw a significant performance improvement going from windows 7 to Windows 8 it was a little less than 10 percent but it was reproducible it was anywhere from about 5 to 8 percent for both platforms we didn't really see any changes in the positioning with the I mean with both of them being within margin of error we'd say this is a tie between the 83 50 and the 35 70 K in terms of performance remembering the 8350 platform could be cheaper with Crysis 3 we saw something really cool in Windows 7 when slick fires the explosive arrow at the turret we've seen this time and time again on the AMD platform the FPS dips to around 20 frames per second with whatever optimizations Microsoft has made in terms of leveraging more cores better in Windows 8 we don't see it anymore both platforms dip to a minimum of around 30 fps at that particular segment although they don't on average actually perform any better on Windows 8 than Windows 7 so what that means to me is although minimums have smoothed out on both platforms just more noticeably on the AMD one the averages are not really any higher which means maximum Czar down a little bit that does deliver a better gaming experience though lower averages with higher minimums is better than huge averages with low dips our next game is battlefield 3 and in this one we really just didn't see much change in terms of averages but both platforms improved in terms of their minimum frames per second so the 8350 went from 35 to 43 and the 35 70k went all the way from 37 to 51 fps delivering a much smoother gaming experience moving from windows 7 to Windows 8 in Skyrim Intel maintains its dominance however it should be noted that our Skyrim install has 18 mods from the workshop so we're not really a hundred percent sure how those affect the performance on individual chips but we just kind of added mods until the game looked great and went with it so for better or for worse that's what we do in that game the Intel chip did see about a 20% uplift in minimum FPS resulting in better overall performance even so even compared to Windows 7 so Windows 8 once again wins is the gaming platform here dirt 3 is a bit of a different story where the 35 70k drops in performance both in terms of minimums and in terms of averages in Windows 7 it was a clear win for the 35 70k whereas in Windows 8 the 35 70k is about a dead tie however it should be noted that when you're running at 150 plus frames per second unless you're running some kind of space-age LCD monitor that does 240 frames per second then you're probably not going to notice so there you go guys in which or two we didn't see much in the way of strange behavior but we did see improvements again going from windows 7 to Windows 8 so the three-fifty particularly went from 51 minimum to 59 minimum although the averages didn't change much so we're seeing another one of those situations where minimums improve averages don't really improve much which gives you smoother overall gameplay whereas the 35 70k only improved about 5% and we're gonna call this one pretty much a tile though the 35 70k does edge out the 8350 in Metro 2033 we see another huge improvement for the 8350 with the 35 70k holding steady so it was about a 10% improvement in minimum frames per second which drove up the average delivering a smoother gameplay experience than Windows 7 and bringing it actually slightly ahead of the 35 70 K although it should be noted that this is within the margin of error for our tests in Crysis 2 we saw pretty much no change across the board which makes sense because this is a much older title and we shouldn't be seeing too many new optimizations that are implemented for it so guys while we showed you all the performance numbers here there are some things that you didn't see so Windows 8 looks like the stronger platform in terms of gaming performance but we did have to jump through some hoops to get some of the games working at all so for example there were games that wouldn't work until you installed games for Windows Live uninstalled the game having already tried to install it once and then completely reinstalled the game the other thing that you don't see is that while the performance of the 83 50 and the 35 70 K is quite similar there's that price difference I talked about before and also the fact that the 83 50 does run hotter so if your room is above say for example a garage and it's not air-conditioned and it gets hot in the summer and you're on the south side of the house then heat output may matter to you and it does consume more power so this comes down to the individual user whether that's important to you or not so it's that cost performance and other intangibles trade-off thanks for checking out this video on - tech tips and as always don't forget to subscribe