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this video is brought to you by CM storm preferred choice of mice headsets and mechanical keyboards of curse gaming visit www.samhsa.gov/dtac FEX 8350 gaming showdown I'm gonna start with our platforms we've got across our five formula with an FX 8350 at 4.6 gigahertz this overclock should be attainable by pretty much anyone running this chip on an overclocking ready platform but there is some headroom to keep going however we have an equally conservative overclock on our 35 70 K running on a Maximus 5 formula this guy is running at 4.2 gigahertz now they're both running muskan black line memory there's Copperhead heat spreaders on here but there's nothing special about those it's just regular 1600 megahertz memory and we're running a 188 gig SSD for our boot drive in the X 854 hour power supply and an H 104 hour cooler now I specifically called out that you needed an overclocking ready platform this is something I wanted to bring up because the cost of the platform the cost difference between these platforms is not surely dictated by the cost of the chip itself so the FX 8350 is about $20 cheaper on average than a 35 70 K however these two boards after you actually have a $50 price difference and if you look at what the minimum bare minimum z77 board costs it's around 120 dollars whereas you can get a 970 a board as long as you're not planning to run a high-end dual GPU setup that you need so even then it supports 8 X 8 X 4 a crossfire operation you can get one of those for around 80 bucks so that's something to consider when you look at the performance numbers we're going to show you methodology wise we're using our usual approach so our standard card is an msi geforce gtx 660ti power Edition this guy right here we run it at a standard overclock that we always run this card on you can check out all of our GPU overclocks on any of our video card reviews we are using fraps to record average frame rates however we are aware of the new methodology of measuring frame times however there's also been I mean it's been an explosive time in GPU benchmarking and the correct tools for measuring frame times actually don't yet exist except with some very specialized equipment so we're doing pretty much eye one else is doing and we're still using fraps to measure frame rates but expect that to change sometime over the next little while as more tools become available we do use in game runs so you guys are gonna see little messages pop up if you want to see exactly how we benchmark each game just go ahead and click that check it out and then you can run your game the same way that we do and find out how your system stacks up so you're gonna see four scenarios on each graph Windows 7 with Intel Windows 7 with AMD Windows 8 with until Windows 8 with AMD we're running anti-aliasing on all of the games this time around we have a separate video where we ran with no anti-aliasing and we're gonna start with Far Cry 3 so in Far Cry 3 the only real change that happened was when we went from windows 7 to Windows 8 both platforms improved in performance particularly the Intel one went from 15 frames per second minimum to 24 frames per second minimum delivering a much smoother experience while the AMD platform was at 20-plus frames per second minimum on both Windows 7 and Windows 8 so it looks like Windows 8 comes ahead but the actual results in terms of the average frames per second was about the same on both cards giving you about the same gaming experience regardless of which chip you choose Crysis 3 is pretty much nothing to report here guys so B FX 8350 and the 35 70k perform about the same and the performance doesn't really change from windows 7 to Windows 8 in battlefield 3 we saw a bit of a different story with both of them recording about the same average framerate so a little bit higher with the 8350 edging out the 35 7 you can actually I shouldn't say edging yell it's about you know 5 percent performance difference however it should be noted but because we're using real runs the margin of error for our tests is a little bit higher although we do run them multiple times to get them as accurate as possible however both platforms increased in minimum frame rates from 35 to 40 3 on the 8350 and from 37 to 51 when moving from windows 7 to Windows 8 so there was there was less less of a dip when you run into an intensive scenario on Windows 8 versus Windows 7 in Skyrim there wasn't really much to report the 35 70k gets a clear win here versus the 83 50 and performance didn't change going from windows 7 to Windows 8 it should be noted that our Skyrim benchmark is run with about 8 in custom mods enabled and we haven't released our Skyrim benchmarking guide yet but that will hopefully be coming sometime soon in dirt 3 this was one of the more dramatic changes without anti-aliasing both chips were running at an average around 150 frames per second enabling anti-aliasing on this title had them both tanked to around half of what we were seeing previously it should also be noted that they didn't really change in performance from windows 7 to Windows 8 once again witcher 2 we saw performance improvements going from windows 7 to Windows 8 in terms of the minimum frame rates so on the AMD platform we went from 52 to 57 and on the Intel platform we went from 51 to 64 so witcher 2 ran better on intel particularly on well not on Windows 7 but on Windows 8 it ran better on Intel but not on Windows 7 so that was a very interesting observation it also took the averages and put about a 10% difference in performance between the two chips whereas on Windows 7 they were a much much closer pretty much within margin of error in Metro 2033 we saw a performance improvement for the 8350 of about 10% and we saw average frame rates for the Intel stay pretty much the same they actually dropped a little bit but again margin of error anything you know a few percentage points we should pretty much not read too much into Crysis 2 we didn't really see any optimizations go on from windows 7 to Windows 8 so that pretty much leaves us with Intel being the clear winner for Crysis 2 if you still play that game which I suspect most people do not but we like to include it just because of the oh who can it run Crysis so there you go guys Windows 8 on the surface looks like the optimal gaming platform whether you go AMD or Intel and I mean quite frankly it's up to the individual viewer whether you watch a video like this and go this performance difference is worth this number of dollars to me we're not gonna make that decision for you we're gonna let you go do that but it looks like Windows 8 is the optimal gaming platform however there were some issues that we encountered running our games on Windows 8 such as the requirement to install games for Windows Live before actually installing any games otherwise it causes all kinds of hullabaloo and games just not launching and things like that and some other random glitchy behavior it should be noted though that with some googling we did get all of the games working so if you want that extra little bit of performance that's me then it might be the way to go thanks for checking out this video don't forget to subscribe to Linus tech tips we're on boxing's reviews and other computer videos