Gadgetory

so back at Computex when Intel did that veer demo on stage where they had this like this like chilled liquid cooled 28 core overclocked processor I don't think anyone could figure out what exactly it was they were trying to accomplish even Intel themselves didn't seem to know what was going on because that seemed CPU although not cooled by chilled liquid was actually on display the next day with their board partners like a soos only to be quickly yanked away and then we haven't heard anything about it since then except for a leaked roadmap that seems to suggest that Intel is planning what appears to be a knee-jerk reaction to AMD's 32 core thread Ripper 2 a 28 core based on as far as we can tell a similar platform to their existing Xeon Platinum now I don't know what segments they're gonna target with this workstation enthusiasts people with more money than brains but whatever it is I realized something we actually have in our hands both the 32 core thread Ripper 2 and Intel Xeon Platinum 8180 which rumor has it will be very similar to the upcoming enthusiast chip I'll be it without overclocking so today we are gonna put them head-to-head as a preview of the ultimate heavyweight showdown of CPUs we're not sure who is going to buy and the whole thing is brought to you by video blocks video blocks is a great subscription-based resource for downloading stock footage video and more check it out at the link in the video description so while eivin puts the finishing touch on our LGA 3647 bench over there i'm going to walk you through what our otherwise as identical as we can get them test rigs so in here we've got a thread Ripper 32 core we've got a knock to a 120 millimeter tower cooler we've got a zenith extreme motherboard with high what I believe is 32 gigs of ram 32 gigs right yeah should be and then we've got a GTX 1080 Samsung 840 pro SSD and an RM 850 eye power supply now bear in mind that any results that we show you guys for this guy have to be taken with a significant grain of salt because Intel will have at least I think a couple of months to tune the consumer version of this before you would ever be able to buy one not that most people would ever be able to buy one like this is 10 grand so we don't know how much or how little they're planning to slash the price compared to the pro one but like it'd be cheap so this guy right here has got same power supply same cooler sort of except it's like a modified version that works with LGA 3647 thank you not too much for sending that over we've got them both hooked up to power meters and then it's running an Asus Z 11 PA u 12 it's got the same GeForce GTX 1080 founders Edition and then it is of course running a Xeon Platinum 8180 now the RAM this is something that could affect our results but we had to use what's compatible with our CPU so this is ddr4 2666 ECC memory the same stuff from our six workstations one CPU project hey it's done here we go is this broken the cpu what what what okay adding another Boulder sized grain of salt to this whole experience is that this latest BIOS we just flashed no longer supports the 8180 CPU probably if I had to guess because of its massive 205 watt TDP so we're gonna have to go back in time to another BIOS in order to run our comparison and four hours later we finally have the solution you know what screw it we're just gonna run out we're just gonna run the light of a thousand suns directly into Ivan's eyes sorry about that anyway where none of the BIOS as we tried worked and we downloaded like one of the earliest ones that should have been the same as what we had and it was corrupt right off AC system whatever it doesn't matter pointies we're just using our dual socket board with a single CPU where the only real consideration performance-wise is we have to make sure we use a PCI Express slot that is connected to that socket so everything's hunky-dory this is effectively the same apples ish to apples ish comparison and we are ready to go so naturally I'm sure the first thing you guys are going to want to see after the task manager' porn 56 threads on this one 64 threads on this one is probably going to be Cinebench right it's got a bit of edge boom who will finish first while those are both superfast but one of them looks a little faster one of them looks a fair bit faster whoa AMD is a good 20% ahead which makes sense because even though thread Ripper two's performance per clock is lower than Intel skylake architecture they do have a core advantage so they have four more cores and watch this we're gonna go ahead we're gonna run the test again and we're gonna have a look at what our clock speeds are well they're going so you can see here AMD is turbo Eng up higher when you're hitting all the course compared to Intel so round one goes to the thread Ripper 2990 WX test number two the v-ray benchmark from Kaos groups so we're running the CPU benchmark here here we go our AMD processor is pinned our Intel processor is pinned AMD is looking pretty good here - Wow and done okay no matter which one of these things you buy you're gonna be like going super fast and three seconds doesn't seem like a lot of difference but three seconds out of 30 is 10% faster for thread Ripper - this is great tell us more about your gear are you overclocking liquid cooling or anything else ingenious for getting a performance boost does does it show that every time or is it just when you're like bananas hey Anthony you ever seen this in the v-ray benchmark you did it on both of these I wonder if there's some kind of a threshold clearly that's a tailored message yeah no we're not doing anything ingenious just spending lots of money so for our blender test we're going to be rendering the classroom scene and this one will probably actually take a couple minutes so we'll come back in just a moment here man that's a lot of course it's beautiful you can even just feel the heat coming off these things this does seem like a good opportunity to remind you guys though that this is not the actual product this is just the closest thing that we have to it now this is cool though compared to that burn test we were running before its turbo a much higher in real-world applications even though the usage is a hundred percent so it looks like they might be detecting stress testing applications and throttling down anyway so that's interesting to know in terms of power consumption this is one area where Intel is looking a little bit better our thread Ripper 2 machine is pulling 380 watts from the wall remember this is before we've even touched the Jeep and this is with no overclocking on either of them because our Z on one overclock whereas we don't know what Intel's planning to do with the real chip that's coming and then Intel's pulling about 265 watts it's crazy they both feel like space heaters you know with the fans even with these fans running at full speed and these are nice fans oh boy this is not looking amazing for Intel right now thread Ripper 2 already chewed through the first segment of the test and I think it's done Wow just under 5 minutes for classroom whereas Intel we're at 5:15 and it hasn't even finished the initial render 545 I don't think I ever thought I would see it again AMD's top of the line versus Intel's top of the line and it just being a blowout so that concludes the productivity segment of our testing and now we're gonna do what neither Intel Intel nor AMD is going to be particularly stoked on we're gonna fire up some games so starting with csgo well if csgo is anything to go by Intel looks like they're gonna have a bit better of a time when it comes to gaming with that said csgo is known to heavily favor Intel's current chips versus and these Zen based chips oh boy average frame rate 310 dot 21 versus 290 7.85 that doesn't seem right because this was so much higher hex yeah I don't know what just happened there there's like there's no way okay well take those results with even more salt than the rest of this video because there's no way that's right that doesn't make any sense alright our test is done we can go ahead and quit the game okay so these are more like the numbers we were expecting to see in csgo that brings us to our final game shadow of the Tomb Raider how to benchmark on the same account with two pcs at once you got to do the ethernet cable shuffle it goes like this ah play game there we go now this is closer this is really close with all these character models Intel is actually enjoying a pretty significant advantage average FPS 100 average FPS 87 so a significant advantage but it should be noted that a gaming advantage from one of these CPUs to the other is not particularly meaningful if you wanted to game you would run out and you would buy you know secondhand 77 hundred K and overclock the snot out of it oh right thermals we're not done yet so we already have a pretty good idea of what we're gonna see here simply because the power consumption on Intel's platform was so much lower yeah so this is consistent with what we saw before with Intel's course coming in about 5 degrees lower so there you have it guys I said it before but it bears repeating take everything you saw here with a grain of salt because we don't know what if anything Intel will change about the real product that they're supposedly coming out with I mean something like an increase to the all core boost frequencies could make a significant difference to the results that we got today but what it looks like for now is that for the first time in over a decade in a pure who's got the biggest wheelie competition because I don't know that we would necessarily put a two thumbs up recommendation behind either of these depending on pricing AMD might have the bigger Willy who'd a thunk it and this Willie measuring contest was brought to you of course by videoblocks videoblocks is the place to get studio quality footage for a fraction of the cost and we use 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