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though okay okay oh did they remove the note there's no way they remove them there's no I would not risk it I doubt it either way I just I just have to get my super professional thank you say there we go oh yeah RTX on I don't want to stand up in Lake show everyone how that Twitter's Twitter hates this shirt oh yeah they're like why would I buy that and I I heard through the grapevine that some people at Nvidia have seen it already yeah and they're like so is he saying that like RTX makes him hard or that like r-tx can suck it and it's just like that's not even the meme it's when you've got a big rate of trace need rate raised bright yeah I mean it's a lie but oh this week that's been a good week as long as you're not Nvidia hoping to keep our TX 2000 mine does well ha what could I say oh part way through I was like why is he stuttering on this and then I realized that good maybe there's so there's a good chance okay that reviews of the r-tx graphics cards when they could come because we know who everyone has them right because I'm unboxings went up today yeah so so I could extrapolate from that that probably reviews are coming at some point do we have one yes okay we did an unboxing today of a network switch and my new router with our TX boxes in the background nice okay pure lols that's pure lols that's great so people like the comments are full of like I thought it would be the iPhone 10s I thought it would be our chance nope neither that's what I wanted to do so so so okay so we know everyone has cards and we we know that usually reviews come you know I don't know a week or so after unboxing start to go up generally a week or two um especially when they embargo everything what we don't know is what if anything with our TX in it could possibly be included in a review in that timeframe no no these are all things that okay so there's okay well we'll get into it more later but I'm just I'm just saying gear up for disappointment I mean there's one good game in that list it's not about good games or bad games it's about having it the rest having it you have this which one he'll bleed cinemas sacrifice okay but is the feature enabled because we also have shadow of the Tomb Raider mm which doesn't have the patch yeah I'm Pub G okay look how pub G is under the rest okay newly added in there okay all right all right anyway anyway topics for this week NVIDIA has revealed some performance of the RT X series but like one question one question yeah I tried RT ice no you know what save that for after the intro because I don't want people you know leaving the video yet okay cuz that's like as soon as people see that's the title of the videos it's something about our TX performance as soon as people get that they're just gonna leave okay gonna leave of us and we're gonna be sad that would make me sad um actually I just I just you know what screw it we'll talk about it now but you have to watch the intro first No our yard uh-oh I'm in trouble now Oh Colton's gonna yell at me you know he has gotten pretty big for his britches he like gets mad at me when I do stuff wrong now remember how timid he was yes like I would if you told me back then that he would eventually do that part of me would be like it's cold and I could see it but at the same time no no he was like Oh apparently the intro volume is bummed up for some reason I have no idea why that is but I blame Jake yeah me too anyway the quote when he first started I'd be like hey Colton would you mind maybe please doing something be like oh okay I'm sorry whereas now he's like yeah you done you done screwed that up right don't worry I'll fix it you know he's like he's all like businessí it's crazy right yeah he's gonna give me crap if I if I save the sponsors name room anyway um why don't we jump right in to tell me so you were you were at I guess was it oh my good it's September you were at Paxton house it passed so you tried our TX yes there was an all right there's an so how much of your life okay would you want to look back on and not have had RTX in it yeah I don't I don't I understand this is the meme but I don't I don't remember exactly how Steve replied to the meme so I can't do like the proper meme response yeah but yeah I know it was I mean it was cool I had some some bigger and other takeaways though I asked I was very specific but what I was able to talk about from the invite-only event okay and I'm not allowed to say what game it was and I can't say whether or not it's on the list of games that we have here but I can talk about the experience I just can't talk about what game it was I I think the reason for that was actually no I don't even want to go into that allude to what game it was but yeah I can talk about how good it was there about they are very cagey but I was able yeah I was able to use frame rates on demos I have an interesting idea as to why that might be okay all right I'll get into that next then looks like this is gonna be the r-tx show so are we going into another topic Emma no no okay yet me so they had a cool feature where you can just tap I think it was f1 yeah and it would rapidly switch between r-tx on and r-tx off sure like there was like no lag no switching between it at all and there was no framerate difference and I think that was the reason why they limited was because they didn't want to show you the difference even if there was a very minor difference in performance if there was some amount it would skew the conversation away from what r-tx looked like and they wanted the conversation be about what it looked like sure now the second part was how good did it look yes I can't tell you what game it was which would be super helpful for explaining how good it looked but I'll give you the vague definitely not enough information it looked very good which is useless cuz you don't know what game you know what and I can't tell you what I want Riley back on the land show instead Riley back he's gonna review the r-tx 20s aw that was good that was nuts people freaked out way too hardcore I watched it and was like I don't understand what people have said Riley watched it and was like I don't understand so the thing is that people were like - you made a joke and it didn't land but I think what they're missing is that Riley was the one who made the joke and it was an inside joke to me yeah and I made an inside joke back to him and it was fun and we don't we didn't really matter if it landed with you guys not everything on the land show is necessarily about okay like it is it's obviously it's a show it's right in there it's show but but some to keep some banter going some insights is gonna be said because you're just in the flow of things okay here's the big narrator though RTX off looked horrible and I can't tell you are we back to the whole stupid HDR on-and-off-again thing again like know that this is where okay so my fury is like the games looked intentionally destroyed with a 2cr off this is where I think it's different this is all theorycrafting I couldn't get any answers out of them obviously but yeah pitch that happened before yeah we saw the game a big part that they brought up was that enabling artsy acts putting RDX into your game is super easy this is really important it takes very little time it takes very little work okay so basically where it's going whatever game this is has just garbage town lighting because that's hard and it has good lighting with our TX because our TX is easy because that what my say so it looks like part of the prom is killing me here I can't say what game it was yeah but either people that have wood maybe maybe I will say that something along the lines of that game that has existed in the past whether it was a previous version or it was the same development house or it was something I don't know I can't get too specific the lighting was really good okay like notably really good okay and it looked like trash so so I think the thing that's happening is yeah I don't know this is all super unconfirmed here the thing that's happening is it's really easy to turn our TX on you can save development dollars by just throwing our TX on your game then it'll look really good you can get great screenshots and get great demos some people will have a great experience in the game there's turn our TX on and then for all of the plebs who maybe you know you just don't care about or whatever like they can just have a garbage experience yeah and I'm hoping that whatever game it was and I think this is why I'm not allowed to say it is because they're probably going to work on their r-tx off okay but I think in video on to show it before they had worked on their r-tx off of course so I think the r-tx off will get better because they'll work on it but it revealed this potential scenario where they just plug RTX into the game and they're like well that's enough you know what it seems like to me this whole thing is just not ready you know needs being rushed yeah I really really liked the idea of the tech like yeah hardware not yeah ray-tracing necessarily but having the I cores you know to move things on to the a cores because with having a sync on your CUDA cores yeah having like physical async with being able to move things to the other cores like be able to pull anti-aliasing and putting it on one of the AI chord and stuff that's super cool I really really like that stuff I don't know so part of my idea is I think they're trying to add something a little bit less tangible to the difference between Nvidia cards and AMD cards you mean more more tangible or something less meditatively yeah yeah yeah so like an FPS number and a dollar number are very we used to I'm sure we still do make dollar per performance graphs for everything all the time because it's a really good measure that's what they've been trying to do that for years with GF experience which by the way I don't think was unintentional GeForce experience GF experience yeah I know right okay I mean they also called a TV yeah BFG display yeah yeah I mean these guys man um anyway anyway anyway the point is they've been trying to differentiate themselves through features and experience which are years now I don't blame them which which I don't blame them for at all yeah but and for a long time to be honest I think they kind of had it and then I think they pissed a lot of people off with the GeForce experience stuff yeah they've helped it a lot I'm gonna keep giving them credit for this but ya know there's it's way more install I appreciate that that is that is way way way better I don't know afk Jim 4:20 so as I see the new architecture will make the RT X cards by for longer as they age being able to offload some of the work to other course okay the issue with that is that unless nvidia absolutely nailed it like this is the first attempt and i don't think i've ever seen that happen before where whether it's beefing up the GPU fully whenever it's that then the next the next-gen GPU tech whether it's tessellation or whether it's a new shader model or whatever the case may be whenever there's some new piece of tech that lands the first implementation in hardware always kind of misses something and it's the tweaked one that goes oh yeah we just needed a little bit more reinforcement over there and okay now we're we're not we're not starving the rest of the pipeline woohoo it's much better I just I have I just am so I'm so hesitant to just say you know yeah go ahead that way you're gonna have the tech that you need going forward it's future proof well that's never a good idea exactly it's like so when I was shopping for my car one of the reasons I ended up with the Volt is that it is the yes so the 2017 volt is the second model year of the third generation design of this car now you compare that one of the other cars I was looking at was the Honda clarity that is the first model year it is an all-new actually it's an all it was the all-new model year of a completely new car that's what mine is which is terrifying because from one car manufacturer to another I don't think there are any exceptions here that I'm aware of the all-new platform tends to have some bugs that need to be wrinkled out and that do get fixed over the next two to three so yeah I bought my cars used for suresies and they were like done with that model by the time I bought the car and I knew any potential problems that it might have to be clear so that helps a lot yeah but in my case I was going in completely cold on the clarity yeah they only had a handful of them for Canada apparently so I just yeah wolfies we're like it could be a super-awesome I think it probably will be a great card I I think a lot of the the media right now I think a lot of the fans are confused by some of the media reaction because the media is really frustrated that we don't have performance stuff there's been really weird embargo set ups and that tom-toms article just set everyone on fire but like themselves on fires what they did it sounds really cool yeah I'm not scared of this card like I don't think it's gonna if if the r-tx stuff doesn't work that great you just turn it off so use so you can hate a lot of things about NVIDIA you can hate their marketing you can hate their prices you can hate their you can hate the way that they engage with the market and with their partners with the geforce partner program yeah but you're you're probably missing something like there's problem problem likely exists between the keyboard and chair unless you're a member of the Linux community because they really haven't treated that community very well over the years but there's probably something else wrong if you look at the product itself and you go you know it's bad yeah they're good it's not bad yeah you can have a lot of problems with Nvidia with Nvidia products but as a general rule they aren't bad they might not be the best value per dollar for the the particular workload that you're looking at but there are a lot of things that in fairness to in video we have to give them credit for they support legacy products for an unfreaking believable amount of time like how far does it go back now and I'm actually I'm quite I'm quite curious if you go on their site how far back does the latest geforce driver go so let's throw ten series in here so they still got downloads on their site going all the way back to geforce what crap it keeps scrolling geforce six series and their most recent driver so they've only goes up to windows 7 but bear in mind you can typically install the windows 7 driver Windows 10 they supported that card up to 2015 okay so the 6800 GT ultra I did they launched with it I think they launched with the GT so the 6800 GT was launched in - no here we go was launched in 2004 they supported that card for yeah I'll let well it's February 2015 it 1004 so 10 years when you compare that to what the typical smartphone manufacturer will do like Apple Apple's a shining beacon in the smartphone industry in terms of model support I was looking at a table of how long Apple has supported their devices and it's anywhere from three years and and lots of change like almost four to four and a half years in some cases even a little over four and a half years when even Google is only committing what two years I think for pixel devices I think one plus is committing to OS updates so about two years we got to give them credit for what they do do well it's not a bad product someone in chat is saying they just bully partners to buy old cards that not sure I don't know I have no idea are you talking I don't know what it means and that's literally the point we're talking about is that the products we're yeah so you might not like other things yeah there can be all kind of principal and I'm sure you could find a dozen reasons to do it that's not the point the point is that we don't have a reason to believe that the upcoming r-tx cards will be bad yeah we just also don't have a reason to believe that RT X will be the game-changing feature that they say it will or that the RT X cards will fully enable the the will give you the full experience of that as new games come out over the coming years and hopefully hopefully hopefully it does hopefully it does hopefully we're totally wrong but we have no idea cool but until Nvidia is willing to it's not even that we're wrong we just don't have any information yeah until they're willing to shut up like what are we supposed to say you can't test our TX then we can't form an opinion yeah so right now all we can do is speculate based on the past and in the past I've observed this pattern so that's all I can really tell you guys yeah all right let's have a look at oh yeah so right there finally talking about performance and these slides aren't like exceedingly helpful but it's pretty usual yeah so as per usual they're just kind of vague but there you go we've got something to work with here the original sources from overclocked 3d dotnet but I'll that's deep learning imaging so they're saying both r-tx 20 80 and 20 80 TI are going to be capable of 4k 60fps gaming what the crap does this line mean I not sure is this zero is this thirty I'm not sure this is actually like pretty much the worst not be worse but it's like it's closed today yeah it's pretty dumb and cuz like what what actually goes down this is it the framerate is it the resolution is it both but like by weird events like this is basically what is causing all of this speculation around RT action that like maybe it sucks because Nvidia is just and this looks like kind of a dumb response to all of it because Nvidia is just being so tight-lipped about the whole thing and just going no no ray-tracing ray-tracing ray-tracing and when really a lot of gamers especially the ones that are playing games that won't have ray-tracing like I don't know that's another thing I got from the demo you will not want it on for multiplayer well yeah like ever at all like err ever I don't think ever really why because there's more shadows well I see and like darker shadows because if you definitely know where the light source is coming from yeah instead of just like washing a room with light it's gonna there's gonna be like oh there's like a branch that crosses the light source here so there's a huge shadow cast across that whole area okay wait I am going to pitch you something here okay what about Rainbow six Rainbow six specifically like seizures I'm talking about I'm talking about Rainbow six style games okay so yeah siege is the one everyone's playing right now yeah yeah yeah we're basically interacting with the environment is a huge part of the gameplay so if you could hit a light causing a shadow of an opponent to appear somewhere the more realistic that interaction potentially the better just hit a light like if you shoot out a bulb or something turn away off though yes what what if you could add one would she throw a flare I'm just I'm just throwing that out there what if they made it a fundamental cuz this is the whole conversation that I'm sure we've had multiple times but I've had definitely with a lot of people over the years going all the way back to when physics was first introduced and what was that stupid game shoot I forget it was like a like a Space Marine style like running around game but physics was a fundamental part of the gameplay demo game Borderlands no no no no no it was helped me was faster in if you had a intel SSD you know it was basically a demo like whit this is before the nvidia sella factory yeah so factor yes thank you good call Ricky dog Thank You self actor Rick young sorry no not cell factory yeah like it it disappeared it never got finished but there was like like you could like do physics things and like move stuff around and like it was wait was it so factored no no it wasn't roblox I think I think it was self factor as far as I know it like never got finished yeah I'm pretty sure it was selfish anyway anyway anyway the point is it was this cool demo where physics was a fundamental core part of gameplay but you never took off because you couldn't count on everyone to have PhysX I mean especially because at the time it was it was like a hardware car to buy it was a separate accelerator card um this whole thing feels very physics but built into the card yeah but the thing is is that we've had physics built into the card and still all you can do is kick garbage around on the ground as Batman and see your cape flutter better because of physics like it's still not a core part of gameplay so to me I think you could if if the rainbow six developers were like yeah we're gonna take the destructibility of the environment and the lighting of the environment to a whole new level but I have Artie I think no game that's actually going to be competitive would ever do that an even playing field for hardware is not something that has ever gone well for competitive no and requiring people to have super high end hardware is just not a thing I guess that's where I'm going with this is that you you won't be able to make it fundamental to gameplay unless you can count on you if you can set up if you if you can like shoot a door off a car and then use the reflections off the door to like see someone come around the corner yeah like that sounds freaking sweet yeah sounds pretty single-player to me dude yeah like I don't think that's gonna be a thing and it sounds single-player but like not which is a cool the game play single-player games are great there was a very recently there's a thread trending on I don't remember what that was talking about how it's like people that just don't play multiplayer games anymore and all those kind of stuff and there's actually a lot of really great single-player game so I've been coming out for a while there's quite a few great single-player games on the horizon and you might even find like PvE multiplayer games we don't care as much okay and you might just want the lighting because you want to look really cool and that might all that's all great that's all awesome not saying there isn't benefits to it I just think like people who want to be hardcore competitive yep I don't think that's gonna be a thing it probably won't even be an option and I'm just saying until you can make it fundamental to gameplay it's always it's always a bell and whistle and there's some people that will care yeah definitely some people but just like gameplays King like you know yeah we're then I completely do this the switch doesn't look any better than what like a ps3 if that so is it even it does it even look as good as a ps2 hard thing to compare this is the ps3 come out if you define look as good that would be like what resolution and framerate it can push but Nintendo titles on general have like a way different art style which they do they do doesn't need more hardware but that's exactly the point is like gameplay is more important oh yeah and lighting I've had more fun of my switch physics for a long time then my computer rip honestly 95 percent of my gaming time in the last few months has been Zelda breath as well oh yeah that's great it's a great game I'm not done yet but like I don't care cuz I just go and like walk around the mountains and like find snails yeah and like dude tennis aces actually super fun yeah I was like when I got it I was like it's a full-price tennis title played over cooked hmm no but it looks real I tried it for the first time last week it's really good yeah so we're gonna when we do the land do you know what l'Alliance enter yeah I was there when we made the decision to sick okay so when we build the land center I want to put like a big screen like a projector yeah and that'll be so we'll have consoles and PC with controllers but I want that to be like the the local multiplayer yeah set up spot and we are gonna 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party option so life is not as simple as this one or this one why not both maybe they could just coexist I mean we always said we're not a YouTube competitor and that's true so we're just gonna have to keep not being a YouTube competitor and I guess I'm speaking as floatplane media Linus right now as opposed to youtuber - Media Group Linus but then from Linus media group's perspective we have always been all about diversification yeah that's why we joined vessel that's why we started Linus tech tips com forum that's why we reached out to partners directly to bake sponsorships into our videos rather than being entirely dependent on Adsense because we don't want to be completely reliant on Google because Google is actually there on a bit of a run right now towards us because I know other creators have had some issues with them yeah but for us they're on a bit of a run right now where they've been actually supporting us really well but the thing is that you can't necessarily count on that lasting forever because we've had situations where there was no communication from Google and all of a sudden there's these guidelines for how they're not going to allow you to have sponsors built into your content anymore unless you adhere to all these like weird rules like you can't show any logos in your video yeah but that was awkward trying to explain to someone likes space yeah we can talk about your service and we can have our site be built with Squarespace and we can say you know without Squarespace and it's really cool but we can show your logo on screen they'd be like me like well so the issues that if we do that then you have to buy through Google all of the advertising on that video but then I don't know how that works cuz you can't buy it perpetually they don't even have a system for that yeah but what could you possibly have been thinking so stuff like that has happened in the past so that's why someone wants to know if we can add a manual monthly fee and flow plane I mean I okay so actually from the outside it has appeared as though floatplane hasn't changed much in the last four to six weeks but luke and I actually had a really good meeting yesterday and there's gonna be some big updates coming hopefully next week right yeah yeah so theoretically we're pushing the the most important but probably the hardest to tell one on Monday and then there's there's more stuff coming right after that yeah so so expect to see new features actually happening over the next little bit let's see should we do another topic or should I talk about a lot of the questions oh right right right right right because I was saying speaking of www chrome is like killing www yeah I don't think it's one of our actual topics in here this week but and so you'll have to forgive me for not having a ton of background on it but I thought that was interesting because technically there's no reason why line is sexy calm and WWN is tek-tips calm had to be the same thing in the past it just happened that out of convenience and out of sort of convention and habit generally speaking webmasters tried to make them the same thing because consumers are lazy and they don't want to type www.google.com to to hijack someone who otherwise would have intended to go to a different site so maybe you can explain in more detail how the crap that would work it well i right now I'm not entirely sure and usually I'd have some angle for this but I've actually read a few threads on it and there's a lot of people debating each other on how exactly it's gonna work so I don't I don't want to speak to it too much if you are interested in it there there's a lot of people talking about it and you can definitely find threads out there on your own but yeah it gets pretty weird cuz there's there's one camp where they're talking about like well I don't remember how that was supposed to work but like sub-domain a pal onto things yeah can maybe make it look like you're somewhere else and like yeah it's there's some weird stuff that you might be able to do with it basically it's right now it's an unknown yeah and that's really scary from a web security perspective especially because this change feels very unnecessary I think I think honestly I think the vast majority of it or all of it is known I think the implications of it are a little confusing yes and hard to understand and a lot of people are talking about it when not a lot of people understand what's actually happening this is a great super chat BK lb yo I'm late to the show what are the specs core clock memory clock gimme gimme gimme it'll be archived also YouTube live streaming has a great feature where you could actually rewind it we talked about our text for the first half of the show thanks man Calvin says thanks for the beanbag chair is that actually the guy that we just like gave a big beanbag chair to for no reason I've no I can't remember why we did it I just remember being like oh yeah sure whatever let's just do it and I think we were trying to get rid of it or something maybe um maybe he like paid for it but like it was just a little bit I don't I don't remember exactly what happened Oh a lot of people were wondering what was up with that weird livestream last night so that was a new YouTube feature called premieres and what happened premier's is that it seems like it hits you guys with a notification early and then you're supposed to come back and watch the video at exactly the moment it goes live and there's a live chat but the video is actually pre produced so there were a lot of people that seemed to be upset because they were like this isn't live pre-recorded pre-recorded hashtag pre-recorded and yes it's it was supposed to be pre-recorded yeah so this is actually a feature that and Luke and I still have some ideas that are different and could be better but this was actually a feature that we had discussed doing on flame like two years ago like two years ago but Deb takes time anyway the point is the idea behind it is that it is a normal video but we schedule when it goes live now we often schedule our videos but in this case we're scheduling it in a way that you guys can see so you'll know exactly when to come back with your popcorn and hang out in the chat and like talk interact live with each other and or me it was actually me and Nick that were both Manning the Linus tech tips account last night and give commentary on the video as you're watching it as you're all watching it together and then as soon as that premiere is done then it just a switch flips and it becomes just a normal YouTube video neat huh yeah Andrew asks if I will talk about conservatives being banned from YouTube and Twitter if you're talking specifically about Alex Jones no I won't I will not be talking about that Thank You great question that's a way to get banned on YouTube oh here's a question for you yeah if Alex Jones okay came to user and said I want to be on floatplane Shore what do you say sure good me too so people we won't want to clarify why should we clarify why well because we don't want to be we don't want it really we just don't we're not even an open platform you would have to pay to go see his content so if you are going to be offended by his content or driven off by his content don't give him don't give him money and you won't see a new fun and the other thing too is like we do draw the line at anything illegal so I know that some people have speculated that he's been banned because of some pending lawsuits or whatever else but that doesn't necessarily mean that the content that he uploaded was illegal actually don't know that it wasn't frankly I haven't looked at I don't either of us know almost anything but until he did something illegal on floatplane comm then there wouldn't really be a conversation to be had about it I don't I don't know almost anything about them I know some people don't like them and people are asking so would you allow denying Sandy Hook on floatplane I don't agree with it but as far as I can tell it's not illegal so it don't give her money yeah don't give him money would be like the best suggestion all right is that what he did is that one everyone's angry but I really don't know honestly he's been doing that for years that's just a particularly stupid thing that he's done yes that's weird no it's a it's a very bizarre now someone chest that he did not do that see I don't know I can't keep on top of this stuff I just don't care um oh do we have to cover the iphone tennis tennis max and ten are have you been have you kept up with this I've been busy yeah they seem like they're gonna be fine oh I finally got my iPhone ten back well it's not that I finally got it back I finally are made it my face ideas been broken for over 60 years so apples are may process excellent they send you a prepaid label it appears to be like overnight because I got my new phone back in three days or something stupid like that like doorstep to doorstep and I'm not I don't mean like in 72 hours I mean like I shipped it out midday here and got it back at the beginning of the day here like it's impressive that's pretty good um so that's that's cool so I'll have my iPhone 10 to compare against it I'm definitely getting both the 10s and the 10s max D brand is is is working on it so that's cool you guys can expect to review you know eventually I'm at the point now where I don't know if you saw the the video that went up last night I'm assuming I'm assuming not but it was about why Google or how Google forced me to make an iPhone 10s video so what I had actually wanted to do was the switch stream that I did today not intend Oh switch network switch yeah that's what I had wanted to do but instead I I decided to make a 10s video because over the last three years our lowest point for viewership like our weeks long lowest point for viewership was the day after Apple announced a new iPhone in September and I've seen people suggest well maybe it's because it back to school and that's a good hypothesis but apples announcement is as much as a week or ten days apart so theoretically if it was because of back to school it all happened like when school goes back I don't believe Apple's announcement is directly related to Labor Day also like schools been in session for a little while here yeah and basically what I what I what I talked about was how you just kind of have to do it because as soon as someone watches an iPhone 10s video you know how it is if you watch a tractor video all of a sudden you've got a bunch of farming videos and your feed and all over your home page and everything so as soon as someone watches an iPhone 10s video dude I watched a video on some guy mowing a lawn with a like a sickle yep I didn't know there was that many lawn mowing videos on the Internet I just exactly it wouldn't stop and so what happens is if we don't have a 10s video then the algorithm goes well these guys are tech but not Apple and this viewer is tech and Apple and they start to skew the way that they feed them videos and so so I was like ok you know what screw it I'm sorry I don't know whatever I'm just gonna do an iPhone 10s video but I don't really feel like talking about it anymore so they're like better stuff and also there's a 10 R that has an LCD instead of an OLED why is there so many different versions well there's this there's the premium ones small big and then there's the value one all of a 10 no tennis connects Ted two 10s ISM one 10 are see we already got confused and then the 10 goes away so what's been typical on the past yeah that's that's weird why ok my my my guess and obviously no one's done tear downs of these yet but my guess is that the 10 is just too expensive to to to become like a step-down model right just they don't want to move yeah cuz it's got that dual layer Pete that sandwich PCB with all the sort like it looks incredibly complex to manufacture yeah so that that's my guess I think that's why the 10r came about instead of just keeping the 10 I'm sure you've talked about this before but someone in chat said notch equals ruined what is your thoughts my people's button ruined what are your thoughts on notches cuz I don't think I care so I don't mind the notch as long as I can disable it but it actually does bother me if I'm watching 21 by 9 content if I'm watching widescreen content and I've got a a bite out of the screen with my disabled so one plus for example allows you to just chop off the top of the display and as long as you've got an OLED display those pixels that are off they're just as black as the glass around it yeah yeah so it's just gone if I'm watching some type of full screen content it would chop off the not because I like the idea of notifications and phone that's some Android handset makers do do that but not on the iPhone and so like playing a game on an iPhone can notch on the edge that's really stupid and I don't mind the idea of the notch there if it just has phone status on the right notifications on the left cool yeah if I have so many notifications that they go all the way across then that's actually kind of what I have all the time but I'm not gonna be able to tell what's happening from looking at that notification bit anyway so you have to pull it down regardless so I don't care yeah but then all fullscreen content should just not go up there that's ridiculous oh boy and that's been the debate over the last over the last year yeah oh this is this kind of sucks so one plus guys are my bros and all that heart but really so one plus it seems has been confirmed yeah looks like this is confirmed oneplus is removing the headphone jack so what am I gonna have left Samsung is the is the LG v40 gonna have a headphone jack handy v3e let's find out blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah can't tell the site's loading slowly looks like it will okay with their upgraded DAC so it looks like the LG v40 is gonna continue all its gonna have a notch bloody hell um so then like that's it like I'm not a Samsung fanboy or anything in fact I'd put up that video recently talking about how battery drain issues that I've never known I ins actually been better lately I'm at 66% today which is about right from when I was using the pixel to itself my phone's brutal right now I need a new phone yeah I've hardly touched mine actually no I know I've actually used mine today and it's at 66 my basically the screen has been off all day pretty much and it's draining 76 okay I mean that sounds pretty good to me from the kinds of issues that I've had but mine's behaving well right now so it's a first gen picks like so and I've thrashed it pretty hard over the years but like what choice am I gonna have anymore word on the street Google's removing it oneplus is removing it like 1 plus I actually had thought there were gonna be the standout I thought they were gonna hold out but they're somewhat at the mercy of their parent company right like they do their own thing in certain ways like their oxygen skin I think is better than their parent company's skin just hands down better some stuff they do differently but because they're kind of relatively small division I think they do have to rely somewhat on the tooling and on the investments of their parent company and it looks like that's just becoming the reality and smartphones now is they need that extra space and they'd rather use it for I think one plus a statement said something about like more innovative features or something Android equals 60% chance to kaboom that's yes what's that someone in chat said Android phone equals 60% chance to kaboom and that's just what does that even mean I think he's saying the battery's gonna explode 60 percent of time which is just completely that's just a stupid thing to say that wasn't a super chat was it no cuz that's not super those from twitch we got to figure out how we're doing this because there's people that subscribe and stuff on the twitch side and like we can absolutely have twitch donations too but we've never addressed anyone on Twitter I think twitch is gonna I think twitch is gonna probably boot us at some point for our dual streaming and being a partner so it might not be a issue [Laughter] alright you know what let's do a couple let's do a couple super chats towards the end here I guess what kind of did notice in the partner agreement that I signed yeah it's actually only for gaming really I wonder if yours might be too no that's interesting I'm allowed to do any form of content on any other streaming platform that isn't gaming or that is a game that is not allowed on Twitch okay yeah so Kang what do you think about Apple products getting more and more expensive yet there's less and less innovation involved okay so first of all I disagree because when a product becomes Kamata sized it actually means that in order to try to differentiate you have to be more innovative going from 14 nanometer down to 10 down to 7 just sounds like a linear progression but it actually gets much more difficult so there's just one thing right off the hop number two is that integrating better hardware that you just get from someone else so you just buy the latest reference design from Qualcomm and you build a chassis around it and you bolt some stuff to it that is relatively easy designing a GPU from the ground up building your own OS your own cloud infrastructure for backups like the kind of stuff that Apple invests in is not not innovative it just doesn't seem like it because a lot of it's in the software so I don't agree at all that Google and Apple are not innovating I think it's just in a way that's not as exciting to us hardware geeks that's all it's just in a way that's that just doesn't float my boat and doesn't float your boat and I think as it gets harder and harder yeah it gets more expensive someone someone in chat said dude you boys are the only reason I'm on twitch oh well we're still gonna be streaming to twitch until they kick us off so I would also take that almost the other way you can drop a platform Adam okay normally I don't make a point of calling out how much is super chat donates but Adam put in 20 bucks and then says pre-ordered my iPhone 10s max that so Adam clearly can afford the 20 bucks how much this thing is in Canada with everything isn't gonna be like over two grand for the top-end model yeah is that the top-end model I don't know well no cuz there's different capacities yeah okay yeah and Adam says yes I have a problem yeah no kidding what's your thoughts on the red phone it's red no no no no oh which one is this red company not red color oh no I don't know about this what mkbhd has been tweeting photos oh that red yeah yeah yeah sorry I see I had project red just like stuck in my brain I was like I said red company because I know that Apple had a project red what but like project red now has their own phone that's weird so I'm pretty pissed off to be perfectly honest with you you didn't get one uh I did I ordered one I ordered two oh yeah I ordered both SKUs this is a snapdragon 835 based product that still isn't here and that for some reason even though i pre-ordered at the same time as anybody else other people are getting exclusive sneak peaks with and I haven't seen hide nor hair of it and the weird the really stupid thing like okay actually huh you know what okay let's talk about the red hydrogen one so I got an email from red and we're actually gonna be collaborating with red on an upcoming project hopefully I'm not jeopardizing that right now but it does then I guess that is what it is but I got an email from red inviting me to be part of a select few customers who will get the hydrogen one early for the purposes of providing beta user feedback which is not inherently a problem except for one key thing I'm just I want to make sure that I get this right because it's very important hydrogen one following up on your interest about hydrogen one is this it no they invited me to some event and I was like no I can't make it where is it shoot houdini project is that what it's called yes here we go so I just need to make sure I've got the right email okay so this is ridiculous so you you get the phone early but you have to you can't talk about it so I was like well if I can't review it I don't want it early because it's not a retail unit it is a Pvt sample so that is a pre mass production unit to be very clear the thing a normal company does with the PBT sample is destroy it because it is not like industry standard not considered suitable to deliver as an as a final product to an end-user now I wouldn't have a problem with this if Reds intention was to take beta feedback and then take your Pvt back and send you an MP unit but they are not what you are agreeing to is that you will not get on past production unit and this is for a phone that you pets paid $1000 for or whatever is that not ridiculous so the terms and conditions of this Houdini project were just utterly ridiculous to me I already read one insane thing yeah so I do intend to talk about that in my hydrogen-1 that one line that I read is because that is not the way you do business so anyway on that note um thank you for watching the land show and we will see you again next week same bat-time same bat-channel oh wait whoa what the heck someone just sent a two hundred dollar super chat i Ambler saw Dennis's dirty apartment in your recent gaming upgrade vid please use this $200 to buy him a few hours with a cleaning service and record the nastiness for channel super fun I can't we can't do something like that I mean we honestly almost got him in trouble with his landlord filming in there at all what it's a whole thing don't worry about it but okay that's awkward thank you everyone for watching demon Michael Mitchell and I am Blair you guys are very nice people how do i how do I get myself out of this nicely 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