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Ryzen Leaks Making Intel Look BAD - WAN Show June 21, 2019

2019-06-21
apparently pressing it twice is the key to victory live doesn't work said alive again works perfectly welcome to the land show it's gonna be awesome this week I hope the to Linus faces brought you right into this video there is a leek MD risin 730 800 X Geekbench leek also a rumor all the hard facts this week about Intel gonna be slashing prices ahead of the risin 3,000 launch don't worry Lance is gonna be sitting here soon enough he's just finishing a video and I'm sitting here so Luke has a real flesh bag to talk to ya and he's gonna talk to you about Ubuntu dropping 32-bit support Linux stuff Google not making tablets and a bunch of other cool fun entertaining things and and stay around for the intro roll the intro if they cease represents our love the let's eat oh wait this part display and I don't know how to funny sound this but merch is cool and stuff it store yeah let's start yeah I just realize we didn't have someone hey let's set up the camera but you know it works either way let's start with Ubuntu let's leave the juicy rising topics ooh here you scoot over linux me leave the juicy rising topics for win-win linus is here Ubuntu is dropping 32-bit support it's all it's all sad and and dying dreams except for most people are on 64-bit anyways and I would say the majority of modern apps are running 64-bit not steam not Nanyan theme and some other actually fairly mission-critical apps for some people but it's not the end of the world because 18 point oh four long-term support is is gonna be fine it will it will keep on going so it'll be okay its future launches that they're talking input you're gonna have to eventually kind of shove off of the 32-bit system which is going to be a problem we see like when Windows it's like okay we're not gonna support Windows XP anymore and we tell you guys like 6 years in advance and then entire airports have massive flow you don't think this is gonna be a big kick in the butt oh god no no please light us to relieve me take my chair do I take your chair here let's let's let's do a whole full swap oh wow there you go this is awkward it's your chair oh lordy I have a shirt on I got it no do you think a triple XL all right that's fine just know I had a medium before what happened to it I was I swear I was holding welcome to the organized show yeah it's on time wearing the right shirts yeah okay so lube unto is killing future 32-bit support oh really oh it's about time yeah it's been a while are people mad I bet people are mad people are probably mad one funny thing that isn't gonna work is steam Oh kind of weird and I looked it up and as far as I can tell there is no official announcement still isn't it I guess like it doesn't need more than our real point whatever gigs they say need a browser yeah yeah Wow like doesn't really matter I've ever met you know it's funny because I remember back when I remember back when Windows XP x64 was like the thing that if you were a sucker for punishment you were playing around with yes you were like well I got this it's a 64-bit processor I'm gonna use it I definitely ran it at one point actually not any worse than Vista 64 my perspective at least from my experience and what was XP right before was one of the operating systems that people would complain about that I just never had a problem with I I remember it I remember noting that steam was 32-bit only being like is this just part of like them their whole hate on for Microsoft or like what's what's their deal and no I guess they just didn't feel like it and I don't as far as I know there's no official word of them switching but there's gonna be a long term support version of Ubuntu that's gonna keep supporting 32-bit for quite a while that's why only 300 people are watching why is it unlisted I have no idea but I just set it to public so cool hey hey welcome everyone else who is who is teaching now that they're actually getting a notification we want wall sorry I didn't know it was even I getting yep oh that's def that's most assuredly a thing and well I'm added I'm gonna check and see if Jake ever uploaded the vaad for that video that we did earlier that's a that's a feature that full plane is probably not gonna be getting anytime soon unlisted live stream Jake you you didn't you didn't upload the vaad for that thing we did the kak camera no but upload I meant upload it like live well now we're strutting like not we can't oh my god we can't launch it now wait needed to go up speaking of luxuries now if you're a floatplane subscriber we have an app for you now it's on the Android store look it up it's actually really awesome it's missing some features more features are coming but as of right now for general stuff it's actually a really good experience check it out I actually had a pretty rough date it seemed like it before you even got on the show and realized that it was unlisted and the other video was not pushed so floatplane we've got the floatplane and i'm kidding yeah no it cancels your search that's kind of not a great experience this app is compatible with symmetry devices hey just tech reviewer problems is it actually compatible with my Casio fo SmartWatch it says no oh oh wait oh okay okay okay they're just all on here okay yeah I was gonna be pretty impressed loop like Jayden Wow wow just wow that's really impressive that's pretty that's pretty good I can watch playing videos on my watch you really went all the way out there so yeah we tried to shoot the conclusion for six video editors one CPU today okay and between the display like long DisplayPort cables you know it's a problem yeah they just they just don't work yeah so between long DisplayPort cables that don't work and potentially some kind of networking issue I'm having a real bad time real bad time with it and so the editing gun right now is basically a Flying Spaghetti Monster of USB extension cables and DisplayPort extension cables and there's a giant Tower in the middle yeah I will say I walked it and I was like yeah that's crazy he's gonna be late the whole thing just looked nuts well like this can't be this can't be good and I just got confirmation that I am in fact not in the office on Monday morning so I don't know how that's going to get finished because I'm going to Germany next week so yeah yeah that was that was pretty rough and I'm apparently going camping this weekend so I have no idea how any of that works so this is this is actually sitting in the middle of our editing room right now that's the situation hey but there's there's there's RGB though yeah and at least everyone on the left side of the frame is wearing the appropriate Footwear yeah to be working with such equipment uh you know what why don't we just do some actual time some second news let's talk about some time we did technically start with techniques we talked about Ubuntu do really let's jump yeah you were here talked about it oh yeah oh is that all we've done so far that's all we've done okay cool we can start from the top right yeah what's up you guys yeah yeah I I had just actually made that discovery myself well not by myself Colton messaged me I'm apparently going camping so the conclusion of that video is basically on you guys to figure out yes good luck and what is it good night and good luck is that how it goes yeah I actually really don't know what to do right now because I also just haven't done like the hosted part at the beginning and I should really I should really do that you should get so yeah we're like I can't I can't leave it like that all week but I can't play should uh you should get Jake to deep fake your face on to someone else see yeah he's not talking you so sorry what what are we doing what's the plan guys you're having no real behind-the-scenes experience ed you might as well come on here this yeah this is how we make videos okay we can leave all the cables we can leave the cable sector ways location and move it take the station and move it and then what okay but that but that doesn't help Jake like diagnose it how many videos are you expecting from me next week Jake's working on the weekend no he's not yeah how many how many videos do you need next week not that many how many is not that many because sometimes you say not that many when you're like eight all right all right these conversations are so much more comfortable when you're not actually like responsible for you only had us down for three but did that assume that we actually hit seven this week did we hit seven oh so I didn't even need to do that okay um okay so then as long as I come in on Friday and we shoot the conclusion then it's all good why don't you guys just leave it in there and then Jake can like fix it yeah so when people are like on lunch he can go in use their workstation tool around with it okay okay so Jake one other thing is maybe try the other fiber-optic cable the 25-footer maybe see if that one has compatible transceivers if that actually is the problem you told me there is a 25-footer Oh was that the copper one oh okay you should take down that copper cable so it doesn't get close to the door again welcome to when show ladies gentlemen those awesome oh man that's great I yeah I'm having I'm having a rough day but you know what not as rough a day as Intel so our big story today is of course from guru 3d comm there are leaked benchmarks of the rise in 730 800 X in Geekbench it apparently performs roughly similarly to a core I $9.99 kay and that is a super terrible situation for our friends over at Intel courtesy of our also friends over at AMD so not only is this bad because the 3,800 X is going to be cheaper than a 99 hundred K it's actually amazing this is bad friend yeah bad for Intel good for everything else is there anyone else this is bad for Intel shareholders okay but I would bundle them in their health fanboys whatever they don't count they their people okay fanboys are people I disagree not people so anyway so this is bad news for Intel because not only is the 3,800 X cheaper than a ninety nine hundred K it isn't even the top of AMD's lineup let that sink in for a minute that's pretty dated so the 3,800 X has a base clock of 3.8 and boost of up to 4.5 from the look of things memory was not configured correctly at only 20 133 megahertz and the test platform had a 3,800 X with an X 470 board instead of an X 570 board so it wasn't even on the optimal chipset for this CPU now that's not to say that we expect a chipset change to make an enormous difference to performance it's just that the x5 7 a chipset does have support for PCI Express Gen 4 so it will have performance advantages if you have components that leverage that and the word on the street is that the x5 70 boards that are coming out have in terms of a Seuss's rog boards anyway much better optimized memory traces and they said there were some other secret sauce they wouldn't tell me because we didn't want people to copy it which could result in higher memory speeds which would have a performance impact so we're not saying that it's a bad situation where now we're just saying that if they were running on like an rog board that's next 570 it could be quite a bit faster cool so yeah one thing is that in single-threaded as you might expect 9900 K is still a little bit faster we're talking 1% okay yeah that's with faster memory okay there was apparently a situation where it was like 14% better on a single thread on a singular thread but that was with faster memory that was with a faster memory yeah oh boy so in response until it's possibly gonna slash some prices this is a rumor the previous one was a leak we're dealing with a lot of like kind of you know not be the absolutely most reliable information here but they all seemed kind of realistic so I mean if I was Intel that would pretty much be what I was doing I think their shortages are mostly resolved at this point so yeah they're a lot better now than they were like okay yeah for last year would you say resolved no resolved was the wrong word it's always absolute yeah less bad less bad let's go with less bad yeah I mean if there wasn't competition I don't think they're at the point where they would be cutting pricing but to me this is really less of an indication that Intel is you know that their supply is better and more of an indication that they think in order to sell the supply that they have that's the pricing that they think they need to be at so the thing about chip manufacturing is you don't like it's not like hand making you know designer wallets on Etsy or something where you you know if you get an order for 10 you can be like oh well I'll just make 10 this week and then if you get an order for one you can be like that's chill I'll go do something else it's not like that ramping production up and down is an enormous undertaking so it's actually far better I mean that's where you end up with like you know flash or memory manufacturers selling DRAM and selling NAND flash at a loss because you are better off just flashing your prices like it's a commodity and ignoring your costs then you are like turning off a fab like you lose less if I if that makes sense you losing 10% making stuff and then selling it at a 10% loss is less harmful than just shutting down the fab which is sort of crazy so Intel is not gonna adjust their production in all likelihood I don't have confirmation on that they're just gonna slash their pricing so that they can keep moving the same volume because that keeps the Machine operating smoother side bar thing I would love to see a skit with hipster lioness making Etsy products oh I only got one order for a wallet that's chill I'll just like I'll do someone else you know it's fine I'll design a new Etsy front you'll make some videos my Etsy store would be full of like this stupidest stuff I mean you guys have seen me try and do arts and crafts tech showdown was not a popular series long term it did not as bad 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I'm gonna pull this up and she's it this is that okay so this is a teaser for an upcoming video I don't want to say too much because I don't know what's public yeah very little is public actually this is gonna be a pretty fantastic video so I'm just gonna pull this up so basically Brandon gets pretty triggered every time someone messages him on Twitter and is like I want to be a great photographer what camera should I buy and he's like alright so it's hard to give you the right answer when you're asking the wrong question because becoming a photographer is about developing a style learning the fundamentals you know understanding the correct way to take a photo so that you can push the boundaries and experiment with the art form note that I didn't say anything about your camera okay another way to trigger Brandon show them one of those key notes for a cell phone launch where they say take DSLR like phone with your phone yeah he'll be like no that's just actually not how that works so on the one hand Brandon gets triggered if you ask him which camera to buy to make you better photographer but on the other hand he gets triggered if you tell them that a phone is just as good as a real camera so this is great Brandon actually came up with the idea and we got in a camera that he was really excited to play around with 51 megapixels is it 51 point 4 megapixels so this is the Fujifilm GFX 50 are so crazy camera like crazy camera to the point where I'm sure people out there would think wow with a camera like that in my hands I could be a photographer no problem and so what what he came up with was we weren't really sure how to like make a video about a product like that because it's a medium format camera which is really designed for a certain type of work like it's it's a tool designed for a certain type of job you'd say high fashion photography you know anything that you were to photograph that you would expect to print the size of you know the site of a building you would capture with a camera like that like the level of detail that it can capture is incredible and I kind of forget where I'm going with this very roundly story but long story short Brad and I were talking and he kind of pitches me this crazy idea and he goes how about this we do a photography challenge but we take an inexperienced photographer and I am at best an inexperienced photographer I think that's generous we take an inexperienced photographer we arm them with the GFX 50 R and then we put them up against an experienced photographer with a smartphone and we resolve once and for all does a smartphone hold up against the real camera and once and for all does an amazing camera turn you into a photographer if you're just some random scrub I love part of this concept because you're basically making him fight against himself because if he does too good of a job so Brandon with a pixel three versus me with a Fujifilm GFX fifty are now I'm not going to share a ton of this with you but I just want to show you guys one of my photos some of them are just far too spoilery but beyond the store at some point okay I mean it's wonderful oh it's not it was just loading yeah yeah okay I mean the highlights are a little a little blown out on that one yep his face is like actually just pure white yep yeah I mean it is coltan it's probably pretty close so in fairness to me yeah like you shine a light at coltan the guy's pretty white does he have a bottom Sun at all no he doesn't have pants on my understanding is that he was wearing underwear okay but it's possible he wasn't I have no way of verifying that he was in fact wearing underwear okay anyway guys look forward to this video if nothing else it's gonna be a ton of fun if nothing else seeing Colton with no pants on ten out of ten and there's this there's fun there's there's far worse no I'm sorry guys I really can't show this to you guys because it's gonna be such a moment in the video but make sure you don't miss the photography challenge I'm actually very proud of this photo you guys need to put that on a wall so just cuz it's so awkward it's pretty out there so you've seen that one yeah well yeah he's he's seen all of it he's seen all of it so guys I mean should I you know what I will give you I will give you one small spoiler it's really close like this does not end up being a blowout so no matter what you think no matter what preconceived notions you come into this video with you're right [Laughter] oh people are so bad in chat I'm so me not showing them though any of those pictures guys it's like actually come on I really can't I really can't yeah I really can't show you I did show you it's like if we showed the benchmarks for every benchmarking video on wine show before the video came out yeah it is actually pretty much exactly like that it's a problem yep okay crazy stuff Google done making tablets that's not crazy it's crazy that they ever thought they people cried and no one else cared it does suck because competition reasons yeah I saw it so I sold that from marques cuz he made a tweet about that looks very valid inside of that I don't care were they competition but who else was but were they competition not really would have been nice if they stayed in it and like actually drive but really no one was competition the iPad stands alone as the tablet and it has like the thing is I'm an Android I'm even an Android user like your primary Android phone from my cold dead fingers but Android is so poorly optimized as a tablet experience what annoys me too is Android in tablet mode looks beautiful and sucks I don't know it's annoying anyways yeah that's yeah basically all we have to say about that really we can't give any details Google is no longer planning to make any tablet Hardware going forward and we'll put all resources behind laptops in the future Chrome OS Chrome OS is the future Google had two smaller tablets in the works both have been cancelled pixel slate was Google's first Chrome OS tablet but it worked best when docked with a keyboard and trackpad also known as a laptop yeah so yeah they're not doing the tablets anymore but Chrome OS is not canceled okay I mean you know the thing about Chrome OS is like I make a face whenever we talk about Chrome OS because it's simply not suitable for me there's a lot of people that Chrome OS could make sense for the only issue right now is that it has to be cheap at the same price I'll take Windows I'll take Mac OS at the same price but as long as Chrome OS keeps showing up on super cheap devices than I guess but as Microsoft continues to march toward Windows as a service and making all their money off of like Xbox subscriptions that people are running on Windows wind I you know what I'm gonna do it I'm gonna call it within the next how many years am I gonna get myself here how do I go aggressive or do I do I go conservative I would get considering the quality of some of the call-outs that have been made on way and show I'm gonna do you're gonna do it I'm gonna go aggressive I was gonna say go kind of middle line three years Windows is free three years yeah okay I kind of knew where you were going and I was kind of thinking five but I I was gonna say fire you know what no I'm going aggressive I tell you I tell you what here's how I hedge my bets I predict I line a sebastian on this the 21st day of June 2019 predict that Windows will be free to install will it will be announced that win that a free version of Windows is at least coming by three years from today there it will at least be announced even if it's not quite available I don't want to lose on a technicality like it's coming in the fall or something stupid like that that's it and the reason I call the reason I call three years is that we're gonna be a couple years into the new generation of Xboxes you know I think that's going to be one of the ways that Microsoft is going to monetize Windows without actually charging for licenses and once windows is free I think Google has a problem for Chrome OS yeah why why do I use Chrome OS at that point okay maybe it's power efficient but windows forearm also exists now and there are devices that you can buy now if you're determined enough and you're crazy enough so I mean yeah I guess there's the App Store like if you're running on arm the Android Play Store is probably quite competitive hard to say yeah when's our Windows Store floatplane app coming he's got it open now I'm teasing I am gonna grill you on stream though I am gonna I'm gonna grill you right now when is floatplane launching what define define launching out more creators more Korea more creators so we had of alpha into beta aisle beta waiting at beta we're calling it base so when we bring out more craters we're just calling that beta because we don't really have like it we're calling that data okay yeah so LTX is kind of a goal we had a meeting about today the flow playing career out of meeting mode today I asked everybody we've got a deadline that is technically before LTX but we have to finish before then so we can actually get creators on I'm not gonna say when that is and I was like does anyone for any discernible reason think they can't be done in time and it was just pure silence okay and right before then one of the members of the team said their part would be done by this coming Friday conservatively which is notably ahead of the deadline there are some problems like one of them I'm not gonna name the company right now but who I'm saving that email you saw is that the C word is now 32 emails long and we still don't have a solution because they just won't do it so far no the first email went out really really early last Friday it's we been over seven days worth of 24-hour periods not really because not Saturday yet but technically because it was sent so early on Friday it's been over seven days and it is for any tier we're on a high tier I'm not going to say because it would give it away too easily but on any tier it's also take roughly three days to do so it's been over seven days so far and it's three working days so if they don't do it today which I still don't have an email and 6:08 p.m. they're probably gone probably gone fed they're probably not gonna do it on the weekend so it's probably not gonna be done until Wednesday which is almost two weeks from when we first asked for it and I am upset e spaghetti and we need that for the lunch yeah of beta yeah okay so everything else is on track and we're currently being blocked by an external company we're being C blocked yes in other news Simone Gertz built her own Tesla truck yeah super cool so the source here model 3 is obviously her Channel yeah but I'm not gonna show you much of it because you should go watch it go give her views there that's all you get to see yeah go watch it yeah go watch it and there's this which is like the commercial for it which is really cool and kind of fun and stuff but then she also has a video about like she goes and buys the car and then she drives around for a little bit and then they they modify it and she pulls in a bunch of friends and it's really cool so yeah the team essentially I mean ok to be clear like they didn't scratch build a Tesla truck they basically hacked the back off of a model 3 getting rid of the back passenger seats to make room for a DIY truck bed so like and a full sheet of wood pallet rack thing at the top not pallet I don't remember to call it an ad buy whatever sheet of plywood and 8 by 4 8 by 4 mm-hmm is that right well that's what a standard sheet of plywood is okay sure that maybe I'm thinking inches or some I don't know either way that thing fits on the rails on top of the truck needs properly because it was like one inch away from fitting in the bed but they couldn't do it so mount it up top now it's really cool my back hurts I'm fine so does mine but I'm sure freaking pose man Oh tonight yes I got Ivonne into it I saw oh did you know she's like she woke up the next day she's like I was like dreaming about settlement layouts it's like so addictive I've been I've been playing cross-code oh yeah on stream for probably like two two and a half hours I don't know if I'm gonna keep streaming it it's not a very you know in because you really actually need to focus yeah especially when you're doing the puzzles in the dungeons like they're not the way they introduce game mechanics is not perfect they introduce a new mechanic by basically plunking you in a room where that's the one thing that you need to like learn but that's been I'm not that far obviously it's a really long game and I was taking my time with certain things like I law I noticed in like the first area there's some jumping puzzle things to find special loot things and I'm like vom getting these which is also not that entertaining for the stream but I was like I don't care because I'm having fun and and then I found this one thing that's like you need a key and you should backtrack to find it I'm like well I'm finding that key and I have no idea where it is you just need to like play the game yeah and then you can go back like in 15 or 15 to 20 hours okay yeah all right no okay also don't if you try to get every every item you will actually just snap your controller in half in frustration so I'm sure I'm super easy mode right now so far I've gotten all of them except for the one that I need the key for but I'm again I mean literally the starting area so yeah I'm sure have you done all the quests in the the starting harbor I've done all but one have you done the one where there's like I need to find this fan smuggler oh no no I haven't done all the question starting Arbour I do that one's a real piss off good to know but yeah it's fun I like it a lot actually it feels probably exactly how it should feel yeah I died once but I died because I was an idiot and when I died I was like yeah I'm an idiot you'll die more okay no I'm sure I like there was a corner and I'm used to modern games where if you did like a dodge spin and you hit a corner yeah just like move you around it yeah this one's like nah no so I spun into it all three times and then was like oh and now you can't move I guess it was really fun I'm for that one more the piece of actual news iOS 13 will remind you to cancel your subscription when you delete an app if it is managed through the iOS store thing that's pretty sick it is yeah cuz like it is so easy like I don't I don't look that closely at my credit card bill for anything that doesn't stand out yeah like something that's like it's like a couple bucks bucks you know I'm gonna think about it I and it's like a weird company like I might think oh I just who knows right like there's there's a ton of things that you just use a credit card for and you know might like I travel a lot so maybe it was a no maybe it was a tip at a restaurant like I don't know if it's like three or four dot like you never know but it's a pack of gum but it's it's it's not like you know fifty bucks and I'm like whoa what is that so it's so easy for these little tiny things to kind of get overlooked for months at a time and meanwhile the app maker is just collecting that recurring revenue so it's really cool that Apple has taken it upon themselves to remind users to cancel their subscription so because really like this is a good move you might remember to cancel your subscription if you see the little icon there all the time you might not want to bother because it's like annoying but then eventually if you're gonna go on honest all the app you might jump into and cancel yourself but if you uninstall the app without thinking about it you're very unlikely to look into cancelling yourself in the future Play Store apparently does it all according to school ug Satan actually didn't know about that I have tried to very many never subscribed through an app me neither I don't yeah I'm just trying to think if there's anything that I have in-app purchased everything that I was subscribed to personally through a browser by the way someone I'm gonna respond to your review but someone reviewed during the LAN show the app and said it would be great if there's notifications there are notifications we just don't have a like account control dashboard thing so if you I know it's coming don't worry about it there's some other stuff coming first but if you go on the website and turn on notifications you will get them in the app I can be a really crazy idea oh boy so we we missed our upload window spot for that reassembling the red 8k camera video okay I think I'm gonna add we missed our upload slot for the red 8k camera reassembly video what do you think of having one of the editors like instead of just uploading it as a stream archive why don't we cut it and like make it better yeah do you think there's any value to that yeah why don't we do a tldr version and then we can just leave the full stream unlisted throw it in the video description if people want to see the whole thing this one's sweet I would want that as a viewer yeah and that saves us saves us a video yeah you just generated a whole video it's double dipping a little I think but I I'm I'm letting it slide to be like nice boy um what's the name of the game Luke enjoy it oh he was he's playing cross-code yeah I played it I played it through over the last like a few months really really enjoy it's gonna take me a long time cuz I'm a little completionist D about things I know trust me just don't I can let go of it eventually but when I first started game I'm usually kind of that way don't just let it go now it's like some of them are really hard like so the it has this jumping puzzle mechanic where it's which is kind of hard and I think would be easier on a controller um maybe yeah doing the angle jumps is kind of hard on it but the hard part sometimes is just finding where to get to it and a lot of the time like you'll go seven or eight screens over so it's like it's a 2d sprite-based RPG so it has like screens for the for the map that you kind of move over so you'll go eight or nine screens over and you'll find the point where you can get up on the ledge and then you have to like make your way all the way back there and and III will criticize this particular aspect of the game most of the time what you find is crap that you don't need yeah it's like the little loot box things I've opened is like okay it's like some items that you could just thrash some hedge hags and then just go by or just not buy because honestly I barely used items other than like sandwiches for health recovery at all there were a couple bosses where I was like okay I need a DPS boost right now because this sucks but that is it yeah we're gonna say yeah the one thing that I don't like to be honest and it's gonna take me a little while to get used to is the like two and a half D nature of the game or sometimes like I can't really tell if another platform is higher or lower than mine taking some scenarios you can you do get the hang of it and I'm assuming I will eventually get the hang of it and one thing that I did learn was if I just shoot it depending on seeing where the projectile hits can sometimes tell me yeah and like there's but that that has been a little frustrating so far there's been some jumps where I'm like yeah I can make this jump and then I jump in I just hit the wall and fall and I'm like oh it was too high okay did we talk about LTX um no do I have you know oh we should do if there's a blog post we should definitely go through it I wonder did they put the no no it's not there wait wheres a map I saw Colton a minute ago yeah cuz we finalized the floor plan : hey cold no you around oh he's gone that's right it was worth a shot the map was cool it was here last week you guys talked about it last week you were on the show dude hi yes we did you and I talked about it did we did we show it we showed all we showed it yeah okay we couldn't zoom in far enough to like show what each booth name was but people were able to see the layout people could see where the BYOC section was exhibit the main stage was all that fun stuff we did so many like crazy videos in the last little bit the Edit is almost done for the slo-mo does 240 Hertz matter okay that's cool um we can probably talk about it a little bit actually because there's like there's so much to this video that I feel like I'm not really spoiling anything by showing you guys some stuff from it hey ed ed are you around yes what's the file format for the images for the 240 Hertz monitor video are they just P Angie's like is it something I can open here and are they just in L wall or no I don't have Photoshop on this thing all right well the images RPGs the things with graphics are yes T's okay cool so if I fire this up is this the hitbox once or the hitmarker ones I think people have figured out that if they review the app right now I get a notification my phones boy Oh are these the screenshots of like the shot though in the video yeah so this is every shot I took cool okay neat and is this how many frames and we were from first from first pixel can't guarantee that okay so let's talk about let's talk about this a bit this is really cool I say what thing no it's okay I think it's alright okay so this is cool so what we're looking through right now is a gallery of Ed freeze framing so we're shooting at a thousand frames per second on a phantom camera and edie's freeze framing and cat is capturing the frame where I pull the trigger okay so this is where I take my shot remember guys yeah obviously I'm pretty far off the mark here like I yeah I missed no no I'm saying how you could tell when you pull the trigger oh no that's not how you can't oh yeah it's fine it's just really easy to tell because it's not a thousand frames per second and every frame is like crystal clear it's so sharp it looks like a still image they can't hear you you have to come over here it actually freezes for like two or three frames okay that's how you could tell me okay cool so basically what we're looking at is at 60 Hertz versus 240 Hertz where I took my shot so this guy right here jumps out from around this corner or runs out from around this corner now he's holding a knife but he's actually not running at full knife speed it's about 80% so here's here's my first shot that one I got him so this is probably the next run now yeah this is at 558 milliseconds ish and then 858 milliseconds so it took me about a third of a second to take my second shot okay yeah this is a new run so this is yeah run two shot run two shot one I missed run two shot two I think that was actually a miss really I don't yeah I don't think I got him on that one no wait that looks so long and probably a hit remember too that there's issues with hit detection in the game so we are capturing not necessarily location in them yeah hitbox location we're capturing how well our gamer managed to click on the tar so if the hitbox is off and it registers is amiss we're not penalizing our gamer for that because that doesn't tell us anything valuable about how well people can aim it 60 versus 240 years more game knowledge okay so here's run three shot one that that was a Miss by the way it looks like it's just overs pretty close and then this is my second shot that ended up being a hit okay so that's all at sixty Hertz so now we're at 240 but you guys suppose we're trying to pull head shots cuz you're okay yeah yeah I'm trying I wall I don't know if II did you try for a head shot every time not consciously okay yeah well the results are gonna be really interesting because the big no-no it's fine it's fine because this honestly this video is fascinating regardless of how much I try to spoil because one of them one of the biggest takeaways was how differently everyone aimed so we'd love to have a much bigger sample size because check this out oh wait are we frozen we're back so check this out you guys that was weird OBS froze so just so you guys know that was OBS don't blame floatplane please you guys should get I know like just a different computer oh yeah I'm talking about that though get-get like logitech to work with you guys and bring in the c9 team yeah we'd know jessic we'd love to do it again with programmers that's fine they're still pro gamers they're still on a completely different level from us alright so anyway let's let's look at this so Mike Wow so my first 240 Hertz shot you can see I actually took me almost a second what's funny is my first one was really fast at 60 Hertz I mean I took my second shot no no this is round one no this is run one shot one so that's like similar so I'm not even going any faster also I think here we go not even going any faster but what's really interesting is these are all hedge shots 1 2 3 those were all hits so the way that I line up my shots I'm actually so remember when we played the pub G and I was looking for the first time we got chicken down here on our first game I think we got two chicken dinners that night didn't we we yes and we only played three games I think for four games yeah okay so you only one gap between the winds so I was I was being really hard on myself because I like didn't know what ammo went in any of the guns I don't know the maps I don't know any of the mechanics of the game like I felt like a complete idiot but it didn't really matter who we're telling me I was helpful yeah I was like I don't feel that helpful but then what the one thing that I was doing was I was dealing damage from far away and when I was watching the way that I aim a thousand frames per second it makes so much sense so I'm a good shot but not in close quarters I aim like a sniper no matter what I'm doing so what I'll try to do is I will try I will watch my target I will watch for an opportunity because I have this mind set in the back of my mind even when I'm not thinking about it that every time I pull the trigger I'm giving them an opportunity to find me so I tend not to pull the trigger any more than I have to compared to Ed who he's just like there it is there's a flick look he'll try to just go for the flick shot flick shot kill then he's like tracking it bang bang bang bang bang he's just pulling the trigger as often as he can you're doing like two per run whereas I got no more than two shots out per run I think three was my max wasn't it like barely did I do four and that but one was into the wall where he went out so I was like I'm like go go so my accuracy or precision accuracy my accuracy was actually no different at 60 versus 240 Hertz but my kill times were actually lower so they is only 651 milliseconds this one's 905 so my average kill time was actually lower and my kill consistency was higher at higher frame rates had a higher frame refresh refresh rate but if you look at my actual spread yeah it's like pretty frickin consistent pretty consistent yeah because in those games in pub G I remember relatively early on we figured just give you a sniper and you can spot people and then we started realizing them give you a sniper and then they're all at half HP when we fight them we're like well that's pretty neat cool this is ad at 60 Hertz so that's this first shot way off way off okay so he managed to hit him here I think no you missed nevermind so that's a near miss but you got to scroll down we can't see the cross that's the cost isn't it oh sorry oh no it's a body shot body shot but we were going for the head so that's a Miss ah sorry ID that's a miss that's a miss was too slow okay so we were running at more like my preferred most sensitive what do you guys just have different because we wanted that v we wanted the only variable to be refresh rate and gamer so but okay alright and we had order here you but if he's we had practice runs okay it's silly it's a bit it's a bit ed agreed with the methodology you agreed to it yeah anyway so if you look through here whoops mmm oh yeah that was weird so these are all sixty Hertz runs and you can see he's like kind of all over the place compared to my shots but watch this this is his 240 Hertz results oh my god so the way the way this is all on the head the way that head aims when we watch his movements is so different from the way that I aim that the way that 240 Hertz benefits him ends up being completely different from the way it benefits me because I am gonna watch for my target to move in a consistent manner I'm gonna track them and pull the trigger when I'm ready so it took me longer at 60 Hertz to do yeah so you're gonna be able to start those processes a little bit faster and it makes it easier for because the animation is smooth it makes it easier for me to tracking and Edie because he's trying to flick across it he's actually got two moving things that he's watching his he's got his crosshair and he's got the target he's trying to kind of like line them up the more data you can get into his brain the better the chance that he's gonna make that make that shot and when he doesn't have it he's like what year is it and then gaff gaff from slow-mo guys he was fascinating too but I'm not gonna spoil any of that right now but it is an utterly riveting video really it was a lot of fun yes should maybe not this year because we're like legit running out of time yeah but it'd be really cool if you guys did like an aiming workshop at LTX an aiming workshop so you like do this with people at LTX I like show them how they cool I don't think we could get it in time no this doesn't sound like a 20-19 yeah this sounds like something where we'd have to really give some thought to the layout of the booth like we'd have to have like a few stations a few phantoms and like operators who are trained on how to do it and like you'd have to kind of come back in an hour yeah so we could actually do analysis of you're aiming style I think another we're like I don't know necessarily who but it would be cool if you worked with a like a pro team and have the protein breakdown people's hell yeah that would be very cool best aim or best FPS players of all time IMO because it's not on the mic yeah yeah all right we should probably do some super chats and I think that's pretty much it for the show today guys um other side guy says your thoughts on Google Stadium and other streaming services silently killing off mod development and mod installation due to no obvious file access meaning mods that can can meaning mods can't be made or used yeah you know what it's just one of the disadvantages of moving gaming into the cloud so disadvantage number one is of course latency that's the most obvious one disadvantage number two is super oh yeah right that you are relying not just on the game service but also the streaming service in order to continue to have access to your games in some situations and we're already running into that a lot like there's a ton of games out there that you know when it first started happening I think people didn't think it was a big deal this transition from dedicated servers that are self hosted by gamers to community servers that are hosted instead by the game developer when it first started happening it didn't seem like a big deal because every game was still playable but as those ones with developer hosted servers have started to disappear there's like entire there's huge gaps in the history of gaming that simply cannot be experienced anymore and there's some teams that have worked really hard to fill those gaps but it's not gonna be possible with everything that's right due to due to various reasons and you're gonna have to have a team of people or at least one really dedicated person who are dedicated enough to work through all of that stuff to force it to actually function or a developer slash publisher that is willing to allow it like which has happened like Supreme Commander so yeah that's that's yet another problem and then problem number three is yeah yeah modding I think it's it's going to be okay it's going to be a problem but I also think it's not going to be as big a problem as those other things are because quite frankly the type of people who are willing to settle for a stadia like experience with respect to latency and with respect to not owning the software that they buy we run likely to start digging around in config files and downloading texture packs now with that said modding is a lot simpler these days than it used to be thanks to innovations like the Steam Workshop but I just don't see it being as big of an issue compared to those other two just because I think it's kind of a different customer and we're gonna have a really long overlap between cloud gaming and local gaming just because game developers want the largest possible install base for their software so yeah I think it's gonna be a big problem I just I don't think it's a problem yet and I don't have a solution yeah either side guy where is the tech yest loving for our boy Brian from Tech yes City LTX invite so part of the problem with inviting everyone is that flights and accommodations are really expensive and part of the problem with including people from way way overseas is that those flights are particularly expensive so there was no real like there's no real discrimination people who reached out to us early on got budget and people who didn't didn't in some cases like I will say Hard Rock Canucks has made a huge effort to be there they were really late getting back to us but they ended up agreeing to split the cost with us so that they could be there so that you know allowed us to work around our budgetary constraints we did have to stretch a little bit for them but they kicked in so that that's how they're able to be there like we've we've worked with people to make it as easy as possible to have as many creators there as possible but we can't have everyone also I did meet with Brian at Computex oh that's cool yeah ah just did not cut it use super chats to support freaky question mark um no I think we we called out people to uh to support free geek directly last week that was sort of the strat Simon loved the LAN show and floatplane for iOS it's coming yeah it's actually it's been developed in parallel with the Android app is just taking longer to get App Store there's some massive amount more hurdles you have to jump to get on App Store not this time says do you recommend Linux depends what you're doing but yeah probably not you're like gonna browse the Internet oh yeah speaking of OS as I take over Chrome OS Linux yeah if I have to learn something anyway yeah Dane says last week my $5 chat was not read mmm I said take this five dollars and throw it on the street just toss it there and make that ten dollars now thanks okay specifically you Luke apparently oh yeah or you could just buy food heck yeah instead of throwing it on the street yeah especially cuz I wasn't gonna pass that super chat through to you anyway yeah not really how it works yeah Morna says had to use a VPN to give you money from croatia PS please floatplane for android TV app it's there's there's so much one of the things about making like a modern video playing app or website or whatever is that a lot of those platforms or apps or whatever have like ten trillion features so we're working on it there is actually a lot of features in the app right now there's just also quite a massive pile more to go so there's there's there's features coming right now I believe the main thing that's being worked on is casting so that's coming that will be cool I already partially works and there's more stuff coming down the pipeline including dark mode and all this other kind of stuff people are asking for we are listening it is coming they got to give us gotta give us some time scratcher says June 21st 2019 windows will be free too still a spur lioness three years from now there it is boom Midland productions good evening you guys I was wondering your thoughts on something would you say SATA SSDs are standard for computer builds now or have nvme SSDs surpass them already it depends on mobile nvme is everywhere but I would still say that SATA is good enough for the vast majority of people and a lot of the time you'll see I'm not twos in laptops and they're still SATA so it's hard for me to say without like really digging down into people's products tax yeah like if you're at Best Buy or whatever buying a desktop I would be surprised if it's got an nvme drive in it if it's a laptop anything sort of premium like mainstream premium I'd say is gonna be nvme in most cases Frank eg says is AMD doing big enough things with their CPUs to get Linus to use one in his own rig instead of an Intel chip you know what they've got an opportunity but it's gonna be a little bit tricky because my personal rig is actually in a separate room and I use Thunderbolt 2 a dock to carry my display and all my peripheral signals over a single thin cable and right now Thunderbolt is not supported on AMD now as USB 4 which is Thunderbolt starts to be picked up by AMD motherboards a now we're talking but as it is it's not officially supported I do believe Wendell from level 1 Tech's got it working on some weird MSI or gigabyte guy wants it yeah and I believe there's a couple different boards of support in it so possibly it's possibly because I actually undid my last CPU upgrade back on a 59 60 X so I am still primed and ready for a CPU upgrade and I am waiting to see how it goes - looks so small next to Luke thanks the gamer cave Adam you're the best Lance and luke love your channels learning a lot never get rid of Dennis - didn't intend to alright I've only got time for a couple more here so Ilya says why wasn't there a notification I'm 45 minutes late sorry dog I blame Luke yeah would it be possible for me to be a beta tester for floatplane as a streamer so we're not really streamer focused at least not right now yet and it will be a while Oh Marshall says how does Luke feel about nebula so you weren't here when we discussed nebula no it's it's interesting I I think to a certain degree more of these types of things in our space is going to normalize this for users and creators so that's good I wouldn't have set it up the way they did well obviously yeah I mean that's like you're literally building a video platform so you didn't I would have done it you did it but there are some changes I would have done for floatplane if I knew if me and the team knew what we know now there are some things that I would have done differently okay there's there's a lot of things that are done differently there's like a couple primary ones that I would have done differently but but there's some core design philosophies behind how they are handling their video content right that I do not think is a great idea but well I've invited I've invited one of the creators onto the show that'd be cool to look at a chance to talk to them I don't I just think that it's like the way that I see it is you could view us as competitors but we've both were both such so much smaller fish that like it's better to kind of be aligned yeah yeah at least at this stage in the game yeah I'm saying like like we're both rather small and I think basically everybody in this more specific Josh is rather small and having more of us that are doing well is a good thing yes so I wish them the best in this risk game you know Google has North America and South America Amazon is holding on to Europe you know who else even exists yeah does Microsoft really do in online video pay for the live streaming platform mixer okay so Microsoft has all strengths or takes up northern ireland's I mean while like you know Nebula and floatplane are hanging out in like Japan and Kamchatka like they can't really penetrate North America because it's really heavily fortified but like every turn they can collect three armies and then take just one country in Asia and then maybe start to collect for once they can get 12 countries and playing a risk with the kid clearly and you know start to and just have a big enough you know mass of of armies that it's kind of not worth it for any of the big players to come in and take that over but like just kind of keep moving around be like a roving horde of barbarians you know and bide their time not a tackle each other like and then when it when the time comes to strike you know make sure that they're moving together against the incumbents you know that's that's the end of the show thanks for watching guys see you again next week same bat-time same bat-channel bye everybody crazy show do you see the thumbnail no I still can't look at it cuz it's still technically live how's it unlisted I'm who you know as possible so we've been doing that because we've been why would you do that livestream oh why was that no I don't know why that was like I knew you could publish them unlisted I didn't know you could like start the stream unless
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