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welcome to the wind show you guys we've got a great show in store for you today I hope and of course the main topic of conversation has got to be Galaxy folds they're breaking we wouldn't know we don't have one and the soonest I might be able to get my hands on a galaxy fold is probably the week after next but hey for everyone who has a Samsung USP our contact it doesn't seem like they're really getting a much better experience than I am anyway we've got that we've got Sony internally regulating the sexual content in their games and UK wants to ban the like button which is which is great also facial recognition to become a standard in which US airports backup which is great oh yeah well we're gonna have a real conversation about that I think won't we first let's go ahead roll the intro slice cracks his knuckles let's go we all know how that will actually hold on a second you might not be able to bring yourself to hit me no I might win yeah you know actually I was thinking about this right right before we actually started talking you were thinking about fighting I was thinking we haven't had a wine show since the roast oh we had last time you and I were on the way and sure together was broast day yeah I hosted without you then you hosted without me oh that's hilarious yeah so that's not related that's not related at all we actually had a blast at the roast yeah oh I'm gonna frame anyway anyway we have a new we have a new year's resolution for for wine show it's a new year somewhere we are going to do like a little bit of news before we get into just biessing so if you want to talk about the roast no but why don't we get straight into the galaxy fold screens breaking so thank you blade of grass for posting on the forum in summary what's going on is for those who have not seen it in the news quite literally everywhere what's going on is Samsung is shipping their first ever device with a folding screen so it's the Galaxy fold and review units went out probably I guess just under a week ago which is kind of remarkable especially considering how many of the people who have review units have had them break or otherwise no longer work so far kind of surprised I didn't catch this so there's a couple sort of controversy there's a couple sub controversies here one of them is that the Galaxy fold has a screen protector on it that looks an awful lot like those things you're supposed to you know peel off but if you consult the manual actually it's specified that you are not supposed to remove it because it can make it more prone to failure now a couple of the people who have had their galaxy folds break including marques mkbhd and Mark Garmin of Bloomberg did pull it off because they thought it was just a screen cover not an especially your part of the display you're reviewing these things all the time it starts to become like oh you you notice something on screen okay well you remove that that's routine and I've seen I've seen some criticism particularly aimed towards Marquez over his assumption that he should just remove it but honestly I felt like it was kind of unfair they were like well if you read the manual then you would know not to remove it and to me in read the EULA yeah exactly to me if something is not seamless on the front of a display like if it is not clearly fused to the front of the glass then I I don't think it's unreasonable to expect that someone might remove it in fact in many years of habit forming - exactly that and there's many phones that come with screen protectors even are quite permanently applied like oneplus ships the screen protector on their phones but that are entirely optional so it's the kind of thing that knowing this and surely Samsung must know this they would have thought to put like a gigantic warning on it yeah like a separate peelable one I actually I actually damaged a phone screen once I forget what phone it was but it had kind of an anti-glare coating on the front of it like scratch that went not quite to the edges I picked it a little bit I went oh crap this isn't supposed to come on yeah that's quite a while ago but that definitely used to be a problem yeah and like most Eve even in the PC space much more niche and usually have more enthusiastic us tumors there's parts that you'll get that will have covers over things telling you make sure you do this thing but like like socket covers usually have information on the socket covers where you open it certain power supplies will have like a cover for the plug to do something for exactly or like if you buy an all in or excuse me an all-in-one a prebuilt PC from someone like an I buy power typically they'll have a cover over the over the plug at the back that says yo open up the case and take out the packing materials before you plug this thing in like you can't assume that the user is going to read the manual unfortunately s actually for something that we all feel like we understand pretty well yeah like a cell phone yeah now the thing is that even some of the phones that did not have their protective covers peeled off have also died so dieter from the verge got a bulge under the screen somehow and it eventually died and then Steve Kovac from CNBC his died unknown cause of death now here's the thing that's really scary about this for me Samsung says they're still gonna sell the fold but what's crazy is like yes there's a lot of review units out there it wouldn't surprise me if Samsung has shipped somewhere in the neighborhood of 500 to a thousand review units but what I also know based on the fact that I don't have one is that there's not that many out there and they also failed really fast so Samsung showed that they that they test the Galaxy fold to be folded and unfolded I forget how many times fifteen fifteen thousand times or something I can't remember what the number was it was more than fifteen hundred I'm sorry it was it was obscenely high I'm sure a chat is already very high number that includes a 15 what there's there's problems with those tests though that are fairly well known that it's extremely uniform how those things happen and they keep adding the problem yeah they can try to you can try to add randomness to it and there's there's better ones for for different applications but but like those tests are definitely not perfect well that's the problem far from they are perfect it's a machine oh yeah no well yeah holding it evenly it's too perfect perfectly closing it and unfolding it and then you've already got people doing first impressions videos talking about how satisfying the snap is I mean think back to flip phones how did you flip open your phone did you flip it open like this or did you flip it open a little more something like this yeah I wouldn't try to shove my thumb in there if I could but it was mostly a fluke I mean it was called a flip not a prideful e apart as far away from the hinges possible applying pressure evenly to both sides of the screen yeah yeah and you gotta assume a zero you're holding it improperly problems in the world real people are gonna use it like real people 200,000 times apparently 200,000 folds okay YouTube chat is saying thank you guys very much appreciate that but the thing is that two hundred thousand perfect folds that does test maybe the resilience of the the reinforcements they've done to the crease but that doesn't test the way it handles if someone like just grabs the top of it and and it puts uneven pressure on one side you can get way more so and it think about it you went to school right learned about levers right how much more force can you apply with a lever compared to just with your own bare hands directly on some object X a lot more and when you twist you are effectively using the phone as a liver to break itself whatever what am I even talking about so uh all right the review units did not have a warning on the Box cautioning users leave it on Samsung does say future customers will be warned Oh an issue I have is like in some of the pictures that I've seen yeah looks I haven't held one because we don't have one so I don't know but it looks like it would be very likely especially with the device that's going to even partially fold yeah for someone to have an accident where that thing gets pushed or peeled or pried off unintentionally like this if if it's that flimsy to the point where people were super easily just able to flip it's gonna be a huge problem yeah because there's gonna be people that actually don't even read a warning that's right on the thing like you know that oh yeah that'll happen to so if I had to guess this is a $2,000 device now we know that the CPU doesn't cost two thousand dollars it's the same as you'd get in in a flagship Galaxy S series phone like there's there's nothing inherently special about this thing other than well the Rd yeah the tooling and the screen and even the most expensive phone screens I remember being blown away when I was like really it's like 23 dollars to replace an iPhone screen like they're small they're actually there's materials to them once you learn how to make them and once the yields are decent they aren't actually that expensive now the yields probably suck on these but that's a whole other conversation so is their battery on the other side and stuff like I'm assuming they filled this yeah assuming they feel that like there's probably a little bit more mass but it's not gonna total you don't quote me on that the point is yeah there's not it's not like it has a freaking you know Geiger counter and like you know altimeter and like like a bunch of like stuff crammed into it it's just got a bigger screen and it folds so if I had to guess I would say it cost $2000 because a the yields are low on the screen be the Rd was really high for something they don't think they're gonna sell that many of or maybe don't want to sell that many of so I think the $2,000 price is designed to prevent yeah too many people from buying it for one thing and to cover the costs of what they already know are going to be fairly frequent RMA's I think we somewhat said this and we like first heard about this one win and I think this is more reassurance of that idea what the prot this also what the price also does is it filters out the kinds of customers that are going to be able to afford it to be only the ones that could then also afford if it breaks three months out of warranty you know how a year and a half from now to just get a new phone whatever it's a $2,000 phone this is this says anyone who is a normal human being who is it outraged by this phone breaking I feel like you're sort of missing the forest for the trees here because it won't affect you you're not buying it I wouldn't buy it yeah would you buy it no like to me honestly once you get past the point of like 400 to 600 dollars you need to have a pretty compelling argument for why I should why I should take this thing especially now that phones are such incremental year by year upgrades and buying a last gen phone is like actually such a good value proposition exactly so yeah it's a product that's designed for early adopters who don't care about money so with that in mind do I think that them breaking is a problem actually no do you think that them breaking at this kind of a rate let's say hypothetically I think actually five hundred to a thousand review units was probably aggressive let's say there's probably somewhere in the neighborhood of like two hundred out there right now do you think four out of two hundred remembering that that's only a two percent failure rate do you think this is a nothing burger what they say in a week so yeah so I'm gonna I'm gonna start this with a story I knew a guy at one point in time that you actually know but I'm not gonna name o that I went to school with and he was extraordinarily wealthy at the time and in the course of a few months he broke I think it was like three iPhones just I am a little tipsy coming back to dorms drop iPhone hahaha get new one okay didn't really bother him so maybe not that big of an issue cuz they could just swap them out I don't know at a certain level I don't know how much it actually matters if we ignore that whole concept I think it's a problem that they're going to wantedly fail within a week but like I don't think this is a game breaker for the people making that type of a decision for the reasons that I just stated right if you're spending two grand on a phone that you know has a high probability of breaking and that you know doesn't really have probably a super major value proposition for you I'm super experimental it's probably not the biggest deal I do think it's a problem but I don't think it's a I think they'll still sell the phones to the people that they wanted to sell the phones to if that makes sense we've got people talking about that they think Huawei's mate x is going to be a much better implementation and I'm gonna kind of jump in and say you know what I doubt it I suspect that like so many things this is just the race to be the first one and it's it's got it's got that smell of you know first gen experiments you know should have been a death kit you know like the first generation Apple watch where the battery life was terrible it had all kinds of other issues Apple so quickly deprecated that thing they didn't even cook they don't even acknowledge it by giving it like Apple watch gen1 status it's like gen zero like that that is absolutely their own way of denoting that product these things happen and I think that as consumers if we are if we're paying attention it should be pretty clear that they're happening so they shouldn't really happen to us so yeah I don't I don't think the made X is gonna be particularly better so now having experienced one folding phone at CES yeah I've noticed for having extreme issues I don't really know it's definitely not just fooling oh interesting it's all platforms for sure a video output low it's not receiving enough video to maintain smooth streaming as such all viewers viewers will experience buffering what that's an interestingly it looks like ouputs 7,500 yep I don't see any dropped frames or anything all right we're gonna have to power on here anyway keep cruising on yeah so yeah having seen that one at CES having seen at least second hand what's going on with the galaxy fold it's just it's just a super super early product I think folding phones are going to be a super big deal they're not right now like you said maybe should have been a dev kit kind of situation they maybe should have expressed the situation that it was in before before pushing it in the way that they did I don't think saying dev kit would have necessarily been the right way of going about it but but broadcasting that like you're on the bleeding edge could have been cool and made up for any shortfalls that it has oh lordy a cool dude on YouTube has a suggestion for a video that sounds like straight out of a mr. beast title you should buy one and don't count out loud while folding it as many times as you can before it oh my god okay one that does 100% sound like a mr. B's video - I'd probably click on that video skip to the end and then leave yeah he's probably working on it but every time he folds it he like gives some $100 or something all right let's move on to our next topic cuz honestly I don't think I have a what a lot else to say a jump to this one I think this one's more interesting yeah I think the Sony sexy content regulation is honestly kind of boring yeah um so this was originally posted on the forum by nevermind no one no one ever gional articles from tech spot.com and basically what's going on yeah I think we need sexy content from social media sites so it seems to have to do with so I don't know in favor of this why don't you go ahead and defend yourself so to be clear I was joking you're a joke what I mean I was joking but I'm down to try it's gonna be difficult I don't necessarily think oh man so I have to try to fight for the other side echo echo echo kill this you're broadcasting your audio oops sorry oh I guess you stopped sharing salewa parently did a thousand folds Oh lightweight and it didn't break I think when we did our mini fools when we did our USB type-c I think we did five thousand insertions didn't something break by at that point - uh yes our micro B did yeah yeah yeah so you win until you had to stop and I actually didn't do all of them I only did about 300 to 500 yeah that was back during like his first couple weeks he gets this assignment that's like unplug and replug and actually it was five was it I think it was five thousand yeah you can have it Dennis I think it was five thousand each on type-c and micro be Dallas Dallas brutal poor James anyways so the the UK's will whoever's trying to push this in the UK their stance seems to be that it there's the psychological effect of wanting to get more likes on social media or something that I've never heard of because I don't use snapchat but streak streak points honestly I have a snapchat I feel so bad because we actually approach snapchat like worked with them to take our handle back from someone who already had it and then proceeded to literally not post once ever well you should have taken the handle though so that makes sense but like yeah I felt a little bad if you would yeah I don't remember what the snapchat thing is called but some thing on snapchat that makes people want to use it more and likes because of the influence that it can have over so the idea is that in the same way that achievements in video games are designed to to like do you ban those to like where does this stop okay I mean when a Windows Windows Europe stop trying to police the whole internet okay he's getting really enough for one thing brexit the UK is not Europe they're not done yet well you know what right now I let my sort of are sorry anyway so I think I don't know in a nutshell the argument is that much in the same way that an achievement in a game hits the same centers of your brain that a drug hit will from an addiction v8 like gambling gambling or drugs in the same way that that those same centers of your brain are activated by achievements in games or or getting positive feedback from from from likes and there's definitely think oh yeah they're saying that because of that it should be regulated and restricted from minors in the same way that other addictive substances and activities are the problem is I'm not usually one to make the slippery slope argument yeah I think over the years that we've hosted this show together you've probably heard me make that argument very few I can't even think of I don't know if ever I just don't want to necessarily say never like because that's a hard yeah I don't not often because really not often IIF at all I usually understand I usually can at least understand why we are you know taking this certain action as an exception even if I don't agree fundamentally with I think sometimes it's the direction argument is valid can be but I think most of the time by the time we're reaching the slippery slope argument we've actually gone too far like you can't say okay the the the Chinese social social social merit whatever it's good yeah that that Chinese social citizenship score thing you can't be like oh well if they start monitoring if you jaywalk then it's a slippery slope before they're monitoring you chewing gum then you're in Singapore that's not a slippery slope like 24/7 surveillance of your of your citizens it's just you're you're rolling off the so the so it's shaped like this okay you guys you got your ground rolling you got your slope and then you got your kind of jump there's a cliff okay we're here you're like in midair we're in FIFA like we haven't actually no no we're like we're going off the jump like we haven't descended yet it feels like it feels like we're still going up but there's nothing but open air below the slope is in the rear feet here like that so I'm I'm usually loathe to make that argument but in this case as a parent I do agree that there are activities that do need to be regulated when it comes to children they cannot control themselves when it comes to things like microtransactions for example I think there should be regulation there but like that microtransaction feels like something where there should be parental controls or some type of thing to stop that from happening whatever something built-in like button feels like something where I I need your input on this one yeah but that feels like a parenting thing that feels like partially a parenting thing and also partially just I'm sorry that's the way the world works now thing because social media all it is is amplifying the tendencies and the behaviors that we already have in that we already exhibit so if I were to do a cool kickflip on my skateboard at the skate park right if I were to do that and you know the three guys that are sitting on the bench over there like that's alike that's cool that's good it's exactly the same thing yeah so when I post a video online of doing a cool kickflip and 30 or 300 or 3,000 or 30,000 or 300,000 people click that like button that's just like and there's there's good influence there because if you if you get 300,000 people liking your video of a kickflip maybe you have a career in skateboarding that have you or that's that's how the modern internet works like a so I guess what I'm just kind of trying to figure out is at what point do you cross the line from banning addictive behaviors to banning basic human interaction but just it happens to be online and like this this is being proposed and like what defines alike is it literally only thumbs up and things that say like or is it up votes does that count that's sort of the same thing do you Ben all of Reddit like like that that's that would we be better off without reddit baby but okay this this I'm wondering with with the continuation of like oh you can't share that different type of content I know I realize that's the mostly a money-making type of thing and now the banning of the like button and etc etc and with the increased not necessarily tech literacy but ability to use browsers and things getting much more simple it over all even the complicated stuff yep I wonder ten 15 years from now yeah dark web stuff being more mainstream there's a lot of mainstream websites that are making dark web mirrors of their websites so it's kind of weird but it's going on tell me more about this trend I confess I have not heard let me see one second sure why don't I do sponsors in the meantime yeah okay I'll do that so guys the LAN show today is brought to you by something very very exciting also some other very very very exciting things the ones that were actually paid to tell you about savage turkeys back well okay oh that's a Moho habanero though that's gonna be hot yeah okay go for it I'll make it work anytime there's maple buffalo bacon I just completely wash out and I go straight for the maple bacon I love it savage jerky is made with high quality 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mainstreaming example of a very large big website that tons of people use that has made a effectively mirror on a dark web service I think it's gonna happen more I think is gonna happen a lot more actually I think it's gonna take quite a while like a really long time but I think it's gonna happen more because the main Internet as we know it is gonna become like the amount of bills that have been coming out restricting what people can do changing different access to things doing all this kind of stuff governments from all over the freaking planet it's if it seems like trendy at this point in time to try to control how the internet works and that's just gonna get even worse over time and I think people are gonna try to run away from that because the Internet is we know it is it's constantly changing and in not good ways like I don't know if you've heard what's going on with man what is their actual name I know the dude's name South African tech YouTube channel did Bitcoin stuff for a long time now they're a little bit not doing as much Bitcoin stuff I would hope not why can't I remember their name that's knowing anyway cell phones that detail yes you have detect I a teal D Tech in my mind I was like I know that's not obviously yeah but anyways South African yeah South Africa's killing our YouTube channel apparently they pass something or they're trying to pass something I don't know I don't know all the details I'm sorry but where you have to like pass all images or series of images also in his videos through the government before you post them online okay so like because some dude didn't like memes being made about him or something I don't know but like if they're basically shutting down all South African content creators that sucks Wow I don't know if this bill went through or not again I don't know any of the details South African law is not a strong suit of mine but like government's getting their hands in on Internet is a major thing right now definitely a trend so I think I think people are gonna try to scatter and get away from it oh crap people are asking how many fluid ounces it is I believe it's 12 I don't quote me on that though I don't remember wouldn't be surprised it's not on dang it yeah it's not on here is it on the website that's 12 fluid ounces in cups our Mills is fine one and a half cups no I think it's more than that maybe it's 16 then yeah that's way more than one and a half cups it's probably 16 no it doesn't I think that's why people are mad oh no no no no yeah okay sorry we'll get back to you on that I don't think it's 20 definitely seems more than 12 yeah I don't think it's 20 because you guys got to remember this is a vacuum water bottle so the walls are quite thick yeah 16 I think would make sense you know really don't know them all right what else do we have do we have to do news anymore or can we just like shoot the breeze I think we could shoot the breeze we did the odd spots we're like the majority of vast majority of the way through the show facial-recognition to become standard and US airports though that kind of sucks we could talk about that yeah okay Department of Homeland Security plans to use facial recognition technology on 97% of departing passengers within the next four years it was first started rolling out in 2017 was operational in 15 airports as at the end of 2018 and it works by photographing passengers at their departure gate then Crawford it then cross-references this photograph against a library populated with images from visa and passport applications as well as those taken by border agents when foreigners enter the country it will allow us Sephora teas to identify people who have overstayed their visas they've traditionally relied on airline flight manifests to track who's leaving the country but apparently since the introduction of the system facial recognition identified seven thousand passengers who overstayed their visas on the fifteen thousand flights tracked so they estimate that over 600,000 people overstay their visas every year an offense that carries a maximum penalty of a 10-year ban from entering the u.s. alrighty then okay so roast yeah people thought we were mad at each other you me mm-hmm you didn't see those comments no on floatplane I saw a significant number of people so there there were discussion see the discussion threads on Reddit they're not not mostly about you and me mostly thought that there was going to be strain on my marriage because of some of some of the the roast material between me and Yvonne I knew there wouldn't be beforehand but evidence that wasn't on camera you guys were happy laughing joking being very friendly couple people at the dinner afterwards they were more than fine honestly that is no worse than stuff that we say to each other on a regular basis and always in like not not in anger or anything like yeah like we just we mess with each other a lot and we consider it something honestly I will say that it kind of blows my mind when people think that the interaction my wife and I are having could somehow be negative yeah because I I'm glad that I can I can say things in jest that are taken as a joke I mean I've said a lot of times I think that the world would be a better place if people took the words for what they meant as opposed to what they said obviously when I make a joke about my wife's flat chest I don't mean that I don't like her and I don't mean that I care and that it's a problem yeah I mean that those last two are pretty important objectively that's a thing that's true lol and ignoring that isn't like yeah it's like what should I say should I say I've never seen such a busty woman in all my years then you're kind of an idiot or blind or a liar or a liar right I don't want to be any of those things it's it's gotta be one of them I can't we just be honest with each other so you're blind you would have probably you know that's a policy that's worked pretty well for me no honesty in relationships is really important and people who can't handle honesty quite frankly my life is better without them so yeah no no no what no one's mad it's all good I thought it was hilarious I had a blast I thought it was so it was like all of my favorite part about all of your jokes was that I laughed before anyone else because I knew where you were going I found that so hilarious I watched that whole part over again cliff I was so funny the second you go you look at me you're like he's a liar you know I just [Laughter] probably flinch I got the wording correct yeah yeah yeah man it was really funny though I enjoyed the whole thing I didn't know there was any comments about that to be honest oh yeah no there were a ton of comments like honestly it was a ton of fun we've been working on the red carpet interviews this week yeah so did you do you did an interview write a little one yeah yeah so they've been so the youtube version is actually gonna have quite a few things different from the floatplane version a couple of the jokes are gonna get cut not actually because they were too offensive that's not the reasoning it was more to do with flow okay so I think there's two or three that I'm gonna be fighting it out with James I think he wants to leave all the jokes intact I disagree I think some of the the off-camera banter was b-minus material at best and just disrupted the flow and should just be cut so so well he and I will fight it out yeah so a couple of the jokes will be cut the swearing will be censored yeah and then one of the biggest changes you know what's lucky you know how we didn't have microphones pointed at the audience yeah so the the feed that Dennis has in in his edit is way better in terms of audience reaction noise because it didn't have the guy at the live mixing board everyone who wasn't talking so we've got nine mics open at the front of the room okay and they actually pick up quite a bit more of it so I was worried we were gonna have to laugh track it just to get back to where we are yeah so I don't know if I think we've mentioned it a few times but people watching now if you watch the roast they we didn't have mics dedicated in the audience that's why like one of the people doing a roast might pause for a little while and like chuckle to themselves slightly it's not necessarily an awkward pause most likely the audience was laughing yeah so so the good news is we don't have to alter that but what we're also going to change is we're going to structure the whole thing more like a TV broadcast so at the start there's going to be like the red carpet interviews there's these amazing title cards well I saw mine did you see your really cool should we try to get one probably find mine yeah can you can you get one and then we'll show it on stream so there's these amazing title cards for all the Roasters little snippets of interviews and then what we're actually going to do is we're gonna experiment with something that we've I think only once tried before it's really funny we get comments on our videos every once in a while like a way to squeak over the 10 minute mark by bloating the video no no no that only matters if you run an extra mid role on the video that's the only reason you get paid more for it now I can just switch to your screen yeah give me a sec though I I will in a sec so so there's no there's no benefit to being over 10 minutes unless you actually run more ads which we don't do because we have our own sponsor stuffed baked in hey where would I find the the cards for the Roasters the title cards yeah yeah is it in the folder somewhere like L roller nice graphics I need Photoshop yeah oh really cuz they're PS DS probably yeah oh you don't have no all those are the original pictures oh that's too bad oh my god Oh excited for Kyle I think oh yeah there's one okay good good good okay so we've got at least a couple to show you guys at least cool and we can show you Kyle's picture for his it's amazing yeah um so so we've got that so then anyway what we're gonna do is write really you guys Wow all right so we're actually gonna split the video up into like commercial breaks okay so we're gonna like go to commercial actual spot and then we're gonna have probably like our own message like we'll have like a spot for the madrenas coffee roast Bob LA or like get the commemorative LTTE roast shirt at LTT store calm and then we're gonna run a YouTube mid-roll so it's an hour and a half long so we'll probably run like three or four of these spots but yeah the whole thing is going to be actually structured like a broadcast cool I would just I don't know it's like kind of a it's kind of a neat idea yeah um so anyway here's here's Luke's I love that's super cool I don't remember I don't remember what I was just standing there the glass it must have been grabbed while we were like like waiting around before the show I loved it and then I've got a couple more over on my system here so this is mine that's actually pretty legit oh man this is Kyle's I'm just excited it looks so legit oh I'm so excited so yeah we have people started spamming the floatplane logo in for a chat okay so for those mongering yes but like Director's Cut version is gonna hit flow plane yeah the only difference then will just be that it's uncensored so it'll still have the couple of awkward jokes or pauses cut like it'll be the exact same cut as YouTube except it's just going to not be censored so are you guys doing the add spots which ones in the oh in the flow plane one you know what probably not I would think maybe the madrenas I would think we might leave the madrenas ones because they did sponsor the show and we'll probably leave the shirt yeah those are so topical and they'll probably I don't know so that's the purpose of the ones that we're baking in is that they are directly tied to the roast yeah actually you know what that makes sense can I show them the the mock-up of the roast shirt graphic okay cool yeah yes it's pretty great that's what I'd really like that um where is my chat with him though I don't talk to no no I've got it I've got it I've got it it's just a matter of scrolling up through it here we go I'm so excited for the shirt design are we still doing the wondering color yes okay so here it is whoa that's pretty cool oh is this completely something else have you seen the pin oh the pins really cool I love that I am so I just wanted one with like an ltte logo here and then a huge image of that pin on the back yeah I love that pin it's super cool yeah that makes sense that makes sense yeah but yeah so this is like the that's super cool I know absolute yeah that's like that works for a whole bunch of reasons that's a meme in itself that's pretty but one change we ended up making is this bag of the ltte roast is also going to be the lighter color okay so that it stands out from the table and everything yeah but yeah this is fine everything is fine that's pretty awesome apparently I have tinder open yeah super tinder I think you're thinking of Google Docs kit guru Twitter float plain Gmail Google photos YouTube and the line is tech tips store nothing I'm gonna get in trouble for for sure wow what can I help you with by the way twin derp water bottle questions yeah Nick's here oh yeah sup we have quantities oh no it seems like it's 20 ounces 20 ounces but we're gonna confirm that marina at it we will confirm that and add it also if you want one you can just stand closer so I don't have to repeat also if you want one over 20 percent of the stock is gone already look for like what's currently in our warehouse oh really yeah oh so if you want one you should order one and then we're probably gonna set up a backorder for the remaining ones that we have on order and then we have to order more so I told you we were gonna have to order more I know I told them I was like these are gonna be fire I love this thing so much we have gotten burned on some stuff I've already seen people complaining like it's 30 dollars that's a lot yes these types of water boils are pretty spins we know these types of water bottles also are not that cheap my glue dude and the thing is legs we want one that is a trash the merch business overall has to at some point stop losing money for us just laughs we do have to make some margin on it that's that's all I can really say like that's the thing is in any business the the successful products pay for the ones that weren't as successful and so that's what this has to do with that set I don't think I don't think $29.99 us is entirely unreasonable it's also fully custom and really nice yeah so that's the other thing too guys is we're not just putting our label on like a water bottle that we found on Aliexpress or whatever like this everything about this was designed for us it's full custom so if you just go to like the local print shop or like CafePress or whatever and just you know customize print your logo on it it's not gonna be the same quality like the thing on here is really durable like it's actually really nice so I don't know I don't think it's unreasonable we do have to make some margin and we are doing the five dollar coupon code as a launch promos that's already someone in Phillip Lane chat he's like I got a t-shirt in the water bone he's the code Ray and just to be clear when you say we're not just like yes we are working with people overseas so like but we're creating a custom product here anything like that but we're doing a lot of work on the front end to make it fully custom to us and the thing is that there's a lot of overhead involved in that we've literally been working on this water bottle for like three months now someone someone in chat brought up shipping to Australia I can add in that I know shipping has been a something they've been working on for a long time and I know shipping scam Europe got a lot better very recently yes Australia should be less than $20 to get there it just might take like up to three weeks to get to you well that's kind of a bummer but yeah working on it also if right now Canada Post has an issue where they're printing up tracking numbers which are really reference numbers so if you get a tracking number that doesn't work don't worry your order is still fine just Canada posted so there's been there's been a lot of work that's gone into like setting this up and making it better but I've said this before I'll say it again the the commitment though is that our merch it might not be cheap it might not be fast it might not be easy but it'll be good so that's the commitment and if it takes us months to bring a water bottle to market and we have to take on an enormous order minimum order quantity in order to get like the quality and the customization that we want then we're just gonna do it and hopefully it goes well I mean already this one's a smash hit somebody in chat said to be fair I just shipped an eBay sale to Australia and it was sixty three Canadian dollars for less than two kilograms Canada Post sucks so they're dealing with really difficult shipping problems when you go over massive oceans it's a little expensive but they're working on it just Canada Pro post like wrecking you if you're not doing enormous volumes with them yeah but they're working on it it's so frustrating because like right Royal Mail in the UK like you can send a letter overseas for like next to nothing and so I think a lot of the time people from places where shipping is heavily subsidised like Hong Kong or the UK or just like no it should be like sheep cheap to ship packages like I I've bought used books on eBay for like 350 that ship from the UK and I'm sitting here going like what the Berenstain Bears crossed an ocean to get here I can't do that no amount of volume that I could ship via Canada Post would get me any way to get something to you for three dollars and fifty cents re I do my best yeah we're excited I'm actually super stoked on this to actually this is finally the finished design for reserve ETA for this no okay sorry actually it's not quite finished I think we are gonna make these ribbons more like this thickness okay yes orange accents up here are gonna be a little bit thinner this is a really really cool hoodie though so these are reflective so if you're that's pretty good jarred their high vis so there's one on the back as well they don't look there's some stuff that's reflective that looks annoying in the daytime no this doesn't look annoying I didn't even know it was no it's like pretty stealthy that's wrong it has the foam pocket that I actually demoed on like social media before that's big enough to fit even a note I'm not trying to I'm not trying to like oversell this stuff I just don't know cuz I'm not a party team so I'm learning this stuff live and it's cool so I can't come out because of the way the pockets are designed does it have like an over lip or something it's just that the pocket oh yeah so you have to like really pull it out which okay yeah maybe that's knowing but all so just don't put it in there unless you really don't want it to fall out like it's either you can fall out or you can put it in the bigger mode or you can put it over here yeah so no I really like this one of the latest problem we had with it so the reason this one's delayed this one we've been working on for like four or five months was the supplier that we were gonna go with for whatever reason couldn't do a YKK zipper we're like well that's stupid we're not gonna ship like this is not going to be that cheap we're not gonna ship a hoodie at this price point that doesn't have something that people recognize to be a high-quality zipper yeah like well this one's fine no it's not fine so we have solved that problem okay there you go anyway yeah I think that's it for the show though yeah I think that's I think that's pretty much when can we get the jacket I'm sorry I don't know I really don't know we're the hats and the other jacket you know the really cool on the stuffing right yes I love that one and that one's gonna be really affordable too I don't think that one has a YKK zipper but it's gonna be at a lower price point it looks really cool I don't know when any of its coming and I wish all this stuff was faster underwear yeah where's my boxers aren't the boxers aren't here but I actually finally have you know what I'm just gonna go get my backpack stall them okay there aren't any news topics yet so what I will talk about is there's been yeah the kind of yeah so there's been a lot of stuttering as people have noticed on flow plane but if you watch on twitch and YouTube there's been a lot of stuttering there as well and throughout the entire show I'm just gonna address this because a lot of people in the live chat have been commenting on it and I believe some of its gonna go into the vaad so I think I'm talking about people to here I've been looking over and I've seen a lot of stuttering in OBS right there I don't think that's the only problem necessarily but there's something wrong with this computer we've been saying that for freaking months I think I have finally convinced Jake that it's Windows so he's gonna finally actually reformat the damn thing I don't work for him anymore so it's not really my deal but yeah I think they're actually going to do it looking at OBS there are zero dropped frames and the CPU doesn't seem to be over overly utilized an old Linus has been saying he thinks the CPU thing but it's it's very low utilization the whole time so I believe it's a windows problem so we're gonna do a reformat hopefully before next week I'll try to get on Jake's but about doing that and hopefully that will resolve a problem yeah Jake thrown under the bus it yeah yeah I told you like a long time ago you should reform out of windows in Jake and Jake's defense though he also had like videos to make that I needed him to do okay um sort of throwing him under the bus though it's not like he got them done so who also reporting Windows is of mostly like actually he got tied up mostly by side projects this makes like next progress this so this I'm probably not supposed to show this to and Nick's gonna freak out because he hates it when I like tease stuff that's just never gonna be available but will it will it's just going to take a while this looks super legit is the finished not the print see how there's like this weird black like gap key on the back and stuff yeah and also the I think the angle of the printing is not quite right the the pouch at the front is going to also be printed there's like a weird kind of like misalignment sort of or like the angle changes see how it's like kind of flat on this side and it's angled on this side so we could have fixed that but we wouldn't have been able to do the single piece seamless back so that was like what matters more yeah and we decided comfort comfort comfort first but we have gone back and forth with I think at this point over half a dozen suppliers multiple times in order to finally settle on the material so there's different not you don't get to touch it yet but I haven't worn these so they're clean they're right so just wear them to work and then taking them off midday so they're at work yeah assumed very clean so there's there's different they're like there's different materials that could be considered premium so one of them is in the dow and lloyd I was pushing really hard for Maddow he wanted Maddow and we're and I was like look I don't like it so I've never it's a super sight it feels like high thread-count sort of beddings like it's really soft like kind of silky but probably too slick but it's not that supportive like it doesn't have a lot of like hold yeah yeah I was gonna say that sounds not like sporty enough so what we settled on was I'm at Alcott and blend that we actually had to have the factory custom produce an entire like not a bolt of cloth like like a like an industrial yeah like I don't know what the unit is it's not a ream it's not a bolt it's like we actually had to have them custom make this material for us and then they'd sent us the sample one of these sample garments so they're just like storing this gigantic roll of material and then we're gonna do the production run hopefully pretty soon but I'd feel it wow that's actually really nice so it's a cotton module blend that we had to have them custom do for us so it's still really soft yeah like really soft on your hands but nice and stretchy and springy and stuff yeah so I'm like super stoked on these that's what so excited so there's gonna be three different colors there's this one I don't actually know it's hard to give it to get across like yeah this feels good ah here's one of the other colors I like that one so they'll come in a 3-pack okay so you'll get this one then there's like this one and then there's a blue background I think you don't have an orange one no interesting so we are kind of it's not that we're moving away from orange it's that we are broadening our palette a little bit we don't want to be locked into orange forever because what we've discovered is that especially when it comes to our demands apparel yeah it's hard to make it look like when you're doing um when doing a piece like this would be bold people constantly used to ask me what orange is Ltd orange the forum uses multiple different oranges because it will look drastically different depending on what colors are around it so at some point in time we just decided we'll just change it so that it sort of looks the same all the time even though it's not because if we actually make it technically the same orange it looks wildly different across the whole site so it's it's kind of a frustrating color to work with and I'm not even a designer so we have sold 30% of the water-bottle inventory that's in the warehouse so 10% more since yeah people are like how much are the Box stars gonna cost I don't know the reason that we're doing bundles of 3 though is because I don't think these are gonna be as high margin of an item they were really expensive for us anyway yeah that's pretty standard but the the reason was that we needed to make sure that we weren't just shipping out one unit at a time because our handling costs which are actually you know you know who does our handling for us do you remember Patrick yeah yeah so it's actually one of the old warehouse managers at NCIX who's like super good guy he's fantastic so he started his own business but they're really small so I mean part of it is like we really want to work with Patrick because he knows his shiz and he's honest he's reliable like we can count on him we trust him but like he's a super he's a startup he's a start-up so like he's doing his best but what it means is that our handling costs are a little bit on the higher side not because he's gouging us or anything but because he's he's starting up he's building his momentum right now so our handling cost per item are pretty high so if we bundle them together yes you pay more but you get three of them and then we can amortize that overhead over three units of it and we can still make decent margin that's all you're certainly gonna it's almost like I'm doing my old job again [Laughter] mmm it's great you're probably gonna end up paying less per unit like per per boxer absolutely yeah absolutely so palatable whenever you go to the store buying a single pair of socks or buying a single unit of underwear is almost never worth it compared to buying a multipack people are like we need LTT thongs says the grassy bush LTX LTX stuff is there an update lame' family plain merch hey there's actually a shirt yeah there is a shirt come it'll be available exclusively at LTX very limited quantities yeah so you better be there and I'm I'm like I don't even know we're not even a hundred percent certain at this time if we're gonna be selling them oh really okay the amount of creators are gonna be at LTX are gonna be on the platform that are probably gonna want to have some shirts got it and are probably gonna want to give some shirts away oh we actually have a really important LTX update BYOC update and last call for early bird pricing so if you haven't bought your LTX Dreamhack ticket yet do it now early bird pricing ends tomorrow and tier two prices which are higher will take effect at noon tomorrow a limited number of Saturday passes remain they're selling fast but don't worry there are still two day passes and Sunday passes available both event days run from 11 a.m. to 6 p.m. with the BYOC going thru Saturday night into Sunday you don't have to leave that the main stage it'll be different events and panels each day and a number of the booths throughout the expo area will also have daily pricing for assorted mini games and activities so tier 2 prices one day past 35 us - day past 60 us BYOC plus 2 day past 90 dollars yes more BYO seats will be available noon April 20th it took some Tetris like rearranging the floor plan a couple times but we made room for 90 more seats ish yes so guys noon tomorrow BYOC that's the only we are not going to be able to create more boa FC tickets this is not like a concert where they're like sold out performance that's like well why do you have a radio ad running for it because we're gonna open up mercy yeah this is not that you guys actually need to get your tickets this time and we actually were sold out yeah so oh wow there's a whole bunch more stuff update from Dreamhack on some of the view biopsy activities so cool we understand that some attendees prefer a very competitive environment while others enjoy more relaxed atmosphere so we've decided to provide both they'll be hosting between three to six competitive tournaments attendees will need to come prepared with pre organized teams ready to compete for trophies and press wow they're like doing tournaments and stuff yeah that's super cool they were just doing I want to cast the rocket League tournament I've said it before I'm serious about that though I want to do that the format rule set and schedule for each tournament will be posted in advance you'll have plenty of time to prepare your team the first two games were announcing for this format are Rainbow six siege and rocket League the other games will be decided by popular vote via a survey that'll be sent to the BYOC attendees after the BYOC sells out again so probably sometime on Sunday for anyone not interested in competitive tournaments they'll be hosting plenty of casual pop-up events throughout the weekend some previous favorites include one our build offs in Minecraft and Terraria private server free-for-alls in pub G and fortnight and 32 view 32 brawls in quake and UT just to name a few that's so sick there oh that's really there under a hundred days left to the event buy your tickets now at they put their track link there but it doesn't really matter the hje /lt x19 we'll see you there so guys it's gonna be awesome I'm so stoked I might just get Backstreet Boys and just say I don't know I can what I might do and this is like I realize I'm sounding like kind of a crazy out-of-touch rich person right now but what I might do I really want to see them is I might just grab a plane ticket so I'll scalp my tickets grab a plane ticket and fly in soon or else okay I thought you're gonna like the side of their house well you can charter a float plane to the Vancouver Convention Center oh really that would be so cool that offers a floatplane marketing expense I thought because where is the concert it's downtown Vancouver actually wouldn't need a plane oh well no I was thinking like if it was Zach if it was against water you could fly from healthy extra Backstreet Boys I might just do it though cuz I honestly I think LTX 2019 is gonna be like once-in-a-lifetime III mean LTX 2020 yeah we're gonna do everything in our power to to crush 2019 but 29 - it's the first of us doing it this big yes and like I don't know that certain things we're doing this year would be possible it is costing us almost 50,000 US dollars to fly out the incredible roster of tech creators that are going to be recruit to be on full plane so this is what we have confirmed so far yes my friends know it's not just Linus tech Expo it's like I'll be there sure but I don't know by the time by the time we're done I may not be the most famous person there and that would be great because we're not necessarily done I think we've spent just over 40 grand so far on plane tickets accommodations Plus Ones camera people like making sure that these guys are comfortable these are all like very important people very busy you know we're not paying any of them to be there but we need to make sure that we're accommodating them and making sure that they're comfortable and yeah it's exciting but it's also so I don't know I don't know what future LT X's will look like but this year has been a breakout year and I'm really excited so yeah like - stop shaking your feet is Linus in the closet I mean Backstreet Boys really you can like music without having a particular sexual orientation just saying and that's far far from the uncoolest music that I enjoy there you go oh we should totally just change it legendary tech Expo how they deleted their message that's weird I I liked the idea you should have it be one of those like cheesy things where you have like you have tech Expo or what it's T stand for it it technics - tech Expo so just force the L to stay there have tech Expo stay there and then just swap the word that comes in after the L old habits die hard but you could swap in like legendary leet whatever hmm that could be like a transition yeah like a transitionary yeah yeah so you can make it like the L kind of stands for what you want yeah just slowly detach all right yeah I love Nickelback sorry one step forward and two steps back I think we're done for the day see you guys next time same same bat-time same bat-channel am I even here next week I think holy crap you were spamming the hell out of invite Lewis Rosman um yeah yeah I'd bring this sure why not he was there last time yeah yeah bye guys