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The Next Generation Laptop.

2019-02-19
the outward appearance of the msi gs70 v is surprisingly professional giving its gamer roots but don't let it fool you this five-pound laptop is packin hardware that would make most desktops blush with a geforce r-tx 28 Emacs q a6 core intel core i7 8750 h 32 gigs of ram and one terabyte of raid 0 m2 SSD storage every single component of this machine is balls to the wall which should mean balls to the wall performance but can you possibly hope to cool all of that stuff in a chassis this thin RR TX cards even worth the extra cost in a laptop can Linus go for just one video without interrupting the flow of the content for us sponsor message the Marlin screwdriver set from I fix it features five specialty precision screwdrivers check it out today at ifixit.com forward slash Linus so here's the thing see the performance of a laptop with one of invidious shiny new r-tx laptop GPUs will vary significantly depending on the cooling and the power available so you'll always get the same number of CUDA and r-tx course but for the 2080 max-q in particular the base and the boost clocks can be all over the place laptop manufacturers can actually configure this particular card's power target to anything from 80 watts all the way up to over a hundred and fifty watts that means remember this is according to Nvidia spec that you could end up with a base clock of just 735 megahertz while a properly cooled one would be capable of boosting to over double that so what that means is that independent reviews of this generation of laptops are gonna be even more important than ever before because you cannot compare between models based on the spec sheet alone so how did msi then fare taming of the beast fine I guess so under a stress test the CPU immediately jumped up to a hundred degrees and was forced to throttle down until its turbo boost ran out of its Elden around 2.8 gigahertz sustained on all course which might not sound amazing and it's not as good as it could be but it still kicks out a write impressive 1205 score in Cinebench so mobile professionals take note but also stay tuned because we're gonna go further in depth with that in a future video today's focus is mostly gaming since this is our first look at mobile r-tx so let's change gears to 3d Mark's new portroyal tests treating our eyeballs to some of the first real-time trace trays to come out of a laptop and this also gave us a moment to really appreciate the 17 inch 1080p display that nside crammed into what it would have traditionally been a 15.6 inch laptop chassis and I got it save their IPs type panel delivers some damn good visuals at a hundred and forty-four Hertz and of course with the horsepower to back it up really only G sync and factory calibration are notable missing features here I can't say like just overall the industry I love the move to the super slim bezel 17-inch displays the difference in immersion versus a 15.6 inch is palpable now back to the benchmark we got a score of about 4,000 which at face value met basically nothing to me since this test hasn't been around for very long but then upon further investigation it turns out that it's roughly 1/3 slower than a desktop RTX 2080 with a similar cpu and that lines up pretty nicely with the reduction in clock speed with the G 75 landing around twelve hundred megahertz versus 1850 on the desktop card now I could show you guys a bunch more benchmarks of a desktop graphics card expectedly crushing a thin laptop but we figured it would be a lot more interesting to compare it to other than in like gaming laptops which is why the GS 75 is going to be taking on the gauntlet of Zephyr is's Zephyr Zephyr I suffer anyway with the max Q versions of the gtx 1070 1080 and RTX 2080 all represented back in the portroyal test the two r-tx cards completely destroyed their GTX equivalents partly because the test won't run on those cards but but more interestingly the Sephiroth GX 701 pulled out a convincing lead in both the score and core clock achieved likely thanks to its superior cooling stay tuned for our full review of that little beast even more interestingly though in 3d marks times by benchmark the RT X cards absolutely wiped the floor with their last gen competitors turning out a result that is 30% faster than what we've ever seen in the thin laptop before and this kept up past the synthetics as well which is just great news for gamers the mobile RT X 2080 is a freaking beast max Q design or no now the GS 75 again wasn't quite able to keep up with the Zephyrus GX 701 but generally just by a couple of maybe about five FPS so MSI is leaving some performance on the table here perhaps this was in order to maintain a more conventional keyboard and trackpad layout or perhaps it was that they tuned it this way for acoustic reasons now the GS 75 isn't silent but purr in videos max-q guidance it's quiet enough that it's not gonna bother you while gaming and it's easily overpowered by its decent onboard speakers so overall the GS 75 games really freaking well but what about the whole portability thing it is a laptop well as much as we're kind of tired of saying it but MSI just keeps making us repeat ourselves here the build quality here just isn't good enough for a machine that costs $3,000 I can easily click the trackpad by pushing the palm rest area and you can feel the Machine flexing when you're picking it up like honestly the word we settled on here was flaccid they do claw back some points with one of the best assortments of IL that I've seen in quite some time with Thunderbolt 3 full-sized HDMI and Ethernet being the stars of the show although if you want to be a star you'll probably need a standalone camera as this one here isn't going to get too too many compliments on twitch but I look like 10 years younger which is nice that's maybe our biggest gripe about the GS 75 though is the trackpad it is last hopped which is good but the flex of the chassis removes any chance of it having a solid clicky feel and although I like where amis I was going with the size using up almost all of the available vertical space and giving it this extra horizontal width they somehow went too far making it really hard to type without ending up with a palm resting on the trackpad causing accidental activations and when I brought up these issues at CES and the size reply was well the trackpad turns off when you plug in a mouse and although I do expect the average user of the GS 75 to read we have a mouse plugged in it's kind of like dropping your dog off with a friend when you go on vacation and saying well Oliver won't in your house at all as long as you've gotten outside when he needs to so I just I never thought I'd say this but until MSI can get their palm rejection way better they should stick to smaller track pads now as mentioned above the worst part of the keyboard is actually still the trackpad but once that is disabled it's actually pretty good the keys have a nice long stroke with decent feel overall and my only real gripes here are about the layout and they're pretty small ones I just think that these keys up here could have been better used as dedicated home and end or media control keys with that said they can be remapped so removing the bottom of the device were greeted by an impressive 82 watt hour battery which given the power in here is not gonna be letting you work cordless all day but if you treat it nicely and you're not running games or heavy software it gets you a pretty darn solid five hours of work time then past the battery we've got access to three m2 SSD slots making for very easy storage expansion and RAM that is well it's technically upgradable but if you're like oh gee where are the DIMM slots that's the same thing we were wondering so our unit has both of the sodam slots filled already and if we did want to change them out we'd actually have to remove everything to get to the other side of the motherboard bring us to the bottom line should you buy one of these now you will be getting one of the fastest gaming laptops on the market faster than anything that was released in 2018 by a fair margin and compared to the Sepphoris you get more RAM for $300 less on an otherwise identically Specht system but the zephyrus in the real world is faster and it has g-sync and factory panel calibration along with noticeably higher build quality also maybe I'm off base here but in my mind by the time you're spending $3,000 I feel like it's not that much of a stretch to go a little bit further test 3300 which is why I am not recommending that you buy this laptop but instead recommending that you buy this laptop except for $2,300 to make that happen you do need to drop the specs of it but there should be more than enough cooling for an RT X 27 t in here 16 gigs of ram fits the needs of most people and at that price I am much more willing to let slide some of my gripes about the build quality in exchange for the overall usability and 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