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so just you know be aware that I'm broadcasting that's fine you can keep doing what you're doing Terran apparently thinks building Lego crap at work is his work or whatever Lego look I got you know brain brain hurricane or whatever it is see I knew he can't resist it he has to correct me brain for even though even though he knows like he absolutely knows on every possible level that I'm doing it on purpose he can't resist brew face he has that he has to correct me so wait so sorry hold on a second is Lego Mindstorm related to mecha no see he did it abend McKenna what the whole purpose that time yeah of course okay and he's leaving hey and you guys are coming on board welcome to the win show it's gonna be me and John here today we're gonna be telling you about what's new in tech we're gonna be trolling Terran and it'll be up to you guys to decide which of those things is better and or more important and of course you're here to find out why exactly it is that we're late today okay so I would love to tell you about that but I went and I left it I left it over there well whatever I was working on a video yeah actually yeah pella do you mind grabbing that green and black video card that's kind of next to the inventory station sweet fellas gonna bring it over for us oh you haven't been introduced to pella he's kind of shy I don't know if he's actually gonna want to be on camera but he works here he does he does some ham right sometimes sometimes sometimes okay um I got people saying my pupils are huge it could be all of the drugs that I took it's not that easy to get amped up for landship how could they tell that your pupils were huge the the camera's not that high-res I mean hey thank you alright so this is what I was working on a five thousand dollar graphics card finding out just what makes it special so it's a Quadro n 6000 and there's a lot of there's a lot of discussion about these because they're very hard to get your hands on unless you have five thousand dollars that you want to trade for one of these so I've seen people saying things all the way from Quadros can't run games to that Quadros run games better neither of which are true well there's only one way to find out and that's watching the episode of holy Shi that's gonna be coming pretty soon maybe I'm wrong stay tuned to find out yeah now some of you are probably kind of sitting here going really was not more important than starting the show on time and the answer is normally no normally that would not be more important than starting the show on time but we ran into a bit of a production snafu one of the videos that was supposed to go out this weekend on vessel the b-roll wasn't done and then Brandon's out of office on a forced vacation right now seriously the guy wouldn't take his time on yeah I know so he has let's see at seven weeks to take all of his time off because he hasn't booked off any and q4 is a blackout zone mm-hmm and so so Yvonne actually just assigned him days and she was just like you're not coming into the office on these days and is he going anywhere or is he just kind of hanging out and just not being here I suspect he's like sitting at home dreaming of work probably that's that's my best he's not looking at camera gear that's my yeah he's probably he's probably like researching crap that he can hang in the lighting grid or whatever the case may be all right so let's get this show on the road and that begins with of course after the excuses the intro role it Wow it's so nice having the stream work properly the only thing that doesn't work properly is me being here on time so you guys should just skip the intro and do the excuses no I already did the excuses that's the whole point all right let's jump right into what I personally consider to be the big news this week so the original article here is from WCC F Tech when I saw this I pretty much went bananas look at that AMD's and engineering sample benchmarks leak out the summit ridge CPU is apparently faster than the Intel Core i5 4670 in the whatever it is yes ashes of the singularity benchmark program yes my friends I just covered for a weird grammatical slip-up by pretending that the pauses were intentional it's very convincing that's a pro tip by the way I didn't get away with it today when I have your job one day I'll keep that in mind okay all right well Oh show up on time and work hard and other thing yes then profit question mark then profit okay so let's let's talk about this a little bit first of all yes I know the source is WCC eff tech bit of a rumour mill but sometimes they do hit on things so bit of a rumour mill I mean it's one of those things where a few mil enough rumors eventually you will end up with a loaf of truth I was just about to say loaf of truth bread right my mind perfect perfect so you got synergy today all right and there are things that you can consider there are things that you can do to sort of vet a particular rumor so one of them is you can kind of go okay does that what's the evidence so the evidence here is not a leak from AMD it's a leak from a benchmark database so that that can be credible or it can be non credible because some benchmarks it's just a matter of like editing a text string somewhere and you can make a product show up as though it is something else whereas other benchmarks especially ones where the publisher in particular wouldn't really have any reason to any reason to act like it's something that it's not um this this can be an excellent way of figuring out that yes that is indeed pretty credible so for example a leaked CPU said screenshot maybe I wouldn't put too much stock in it can you probably don't cpu-z a validated CPU said screenshot where the processor ID shows up as Intel engineering sample whatever whatever code name usually those are pretty credible ok number two is timing timing is huge so AMD is figuring like the the old quote if I recall correctly you'll have to forgive me AMD has changed the story a number of times on this but the old quote was that they would ship Xen in late 2016 we are now getting towards well we're well into the second half of 2016 however they did say that it slipped and should be shipping sometime in early 2017 the timing for this leak is perfect because don't imagine for a second that a motherboard maker remember this is a new CPU and a new chipset this isn't a micro code update for existing motherboards and chipsets because this isn't like what five years old make no sense at this point exactly we are getting a new socket socket a.m. for we are getting a new chipset with support for ddr4 finally support for PCI Express 3.0 finally I mean I mean AMD has shipped multiple generations of graphics cards that support PCI Express technology that their CPUs and motherboards do not and even if you aren't even if you're running like sort of a middle-of-the-road or even a high end GPU that's not going to saturate a PCIe tulane it also means you can't take advantage of life and you storage options as well that's for winning an older PCIe revision that's right so basic the timing is pretty good don't imagine for a second that motherboard makers don't have some of the first working silicon in their labs so they can start to make sure that their motherboards work because AMD again this is a new platform AMD cannot launch a cpu until the motherboards are not only completed in the design stage of things but are actually tested and validated mass-produced packaged and shipped otherwise emails will just hang the CPUs on your Christmas tree with that said ok that's kind of a funny funny thing AMD has done that before they have launched CPUs before the motherboards were available retail yeah yeah I don't I don't remember which one it was but basically it was it wasn't a huge delay it was like a couple of days but like the CPUs were in stock you could build some hype that way I guess it almost like pre-ordering a game I guess so pre-ordering a game except it's a game that you also need to buy like like a special controller for and then you have to pay shipping on the order separately so like Guitar Hero but to another degree yeah just ordering like ordering like a guitar hero like disc library and then not having the plastic guitar yet exactly exactly ok so so basically what I'm trying to say oh yeah so consideration number three is what kind of performance we're seeing out of it an early leak that indicates that Zen at $200 is going to crap all over the 69 50 X is probably designed by some AMD fanboy somewhere who wants people to be hyped up about AMD that's the doesn't have much credibility whereas this rumor looks pretty solid so so the benchmarks so first of all and this is another important disclaimer the benchmarks are of an engineering sample and may not be entirely representative of the retail product with that said the product development timelines on things like CPUs are so long that if motherboard manufacturers and presumably that's that's where this ultimately came from at some point but if motherboard manufacturers or anyone else and has their hands on motherboards and CPUs has silicon that they're actually using to validate anything it's probably pretty far along like there are sometimes very early chips that are clocked much much lower than the eventual retail ones end up being but that's earlier on in the development process where there's still time to like tape it out again for example I don't think AMD is looking at if they're going to be launching the chip sometime in the next you know three to six months actually okay maybe but that would be very tight like I don't think we're gonna see anything that's dramatically different from what's here maybe some tweet clock speeds maybe this is a lower end skew hard to say it was tested with an unnamed motherboard and an Rx for a new graphics card and the 1080p average frame rates and ashes that the singularity showed 258 FPS for the Zen engineering sample compared to 65.4 on an Intel Core i7 4790 and 52.6 on a 46 70k so it's currently clocked at 2.8 gigahertz base 3.2 gigahertz boost and the benchmarks have since been pulled down by the source so ambe's n are you still hyped well I mean okay so I feel like the benchmark results are probably so a OTS is it CPU valid all I feel like it might be there there yeah there's some CPU yeah so so we have a chip that's like on like a 40 nanometer process and I know there's like a lot more to it than just the transistor size but it's what Intel is currently using as well so it's it's been such a long time since 2011 since we've got anything new from them is terms of architecture or so it's also been completely redesigned by the team that was led by Jim Keller who has actually since moved on to Tesla which is sort of a shame although AMD says that the groundwork has been laid for not only Zen but improvements upon Zen over the next couple of years though my concern then if I were say for example an AMD investor or an AMD fan would be well gee isn't that exactly what happened with the Athlon 64 Jim Keller led the team that designed it and you iterated on it after he left and then just kind of kept iterating on it after he left and that was sort of all we had for the next I don't know 10 years but sorry let's let's get this let's get this straw pull up so I just post a strawpoll are you guys still amped for then let's see the results here boom 45 percent of you saying yes with nine percent of you saying no and 45 percent of you saying you never work so basically in a nutshell this has not really dampened the spirits of anyone who was legitimately excited about Zen in the first place and you know what I am actually in the same camp on this because I don't need AMD to come back Athlon 64 style and take the performance crown that is actually not what we need at all because at the performance crown level is not where Intel has been stagnant you look back at the last three or four generations they've given us the 39 60 X the first six core consumer but they gave us a six core consuming okay the generation after that they gave us a six core consumer for a little over half the price of the previous one and a faster six core in the 49 60 X the year after that they bumped the core count and they drove pricing of six cores no wait no that 58 20 was still a hold on yeah 5820k it was still a six core if I recall correctly right it just it just has fewer PCIe lanes or some of the other ones do that's right 28 PCI Express lanes versus 40 so at the enthusiast level okay we got an eight-core we still got a cheaper six core and we got an even cheaper six core but with fewer PCIe lanes which quite frankly for consumers is completely irrelevant you can quote me on that especially these days with the SLI limitations that's right and then and I mean even in the previous days when the SLI wasn't limited but you see was doing it anyways it's still scaled horribly so just why exactly uh and then in the latest generation we got a ten core at the top range which is sort of more of a moving the bar of the top range unless of delivering us a ten core for what used to be with eight matches yeah exactly but then we still get eight and six cores for and I think in particular the 6800 K is a pretty compelling skew on the enthusiast platform you get six cores really high clock speeds and you get overclocking and there okay it was the same thing that we said in the review I think I think is because the retail is like what 350 somewhere that ball core it's a little higher I think so but it's not ridiculous yes yeah it's it's do it's not $1000 yeah $1,700 it's it's not completely outlandish yeah so actually at the performance crown end of things Intel hasn't been sitting on ass to quite the same degree with that said what they have done is they have ramped up pricing in the performance crown in halo tier and the reason you can ramp up pricing of your halo tier products is not necessarily because there isn't a competitor who's also releasing halo tier products at a lower price in fact if they both had halo tier products you can bet that they would both be selling a CPUs for $1000 a pop in fact it's happened everyone likes to treat AMD like they're these like good guys champions of you know cheap CPUs for consumers they are not it's about strategy like what market segment are you going to talk that's right you go back far enough AMD introduced the thousand-dollar enthusiast processor they started this thing and people forget that so that's not the problem the problem is that Intel has the luxury of holding not only the performance crown but also the mains dream enthusiasts segment where AMD is only really competing in the very low end range with their AP use and in the desperate AMD fanboy range with their FX CPUs that's all AMD really has so because Intel is not putting any pressure on their enthusiast processors by continuing to sell us quad cores for an entire decade an entire decade until us a quad core is enough for the mainstream and you know what they're probably right but that isn't the point of what I'm saying the point is they are not giving us the other stuff because they don't have to because the only one putting pressure on the enthusiasts making us do a cost per performance per core value calculation on the enthusiast chips is Intel and they're going yeah that's how much of 6-quart costs because if you want to spend less all you can get to quad-core and you can argue till you're blue in the face about AMD's six cores and eight cores but let's get real performance matters how many cores you write on the side of the box doesn't matter and intel's eight cores have nothing to do or air and brethren AMD's eight cores have nothing to do with intel's eight cores they're not they're not the same thing yeah they're not even comparable in terms of like single threaded and all that so no they're not yeah yeah it's it's not even it's not even conversations so am i amped for Zen knowing that Zen is not necessarily going to go toe-to-toe with the 6700 K what's not the point is in absolutely I'm amped exactly if Zen gives us great performance at 200 bucks then mission accomplished AMD will have effectively dramatically increased their average selling price if they can move a bunch of new generation FX whatever it is they end up calling them FX Zen CPUs I actually don't know what the branding is going to be for them but if they can move a whack 10 of those it'll drive up AMD's ASP s that's their average sell price it will improve AMD's profitability give them money to spend on R&D which they have been sorely lacking and maybe give them a shot to come back with another punch after Zen that really put some fresh on Intel in the meantime giving people who want to buy a high-performance value computer a legitimate option because after the $200 mark even like closer to 230 bucks position returns yeah Intel really starts to lock you down they kind of go okay yeah we're gonna really start to ramp down clock speed actually did a lot of analysis on Intel's lineup for a video that I worked on recently called which Intel CPU should I buy don't worry there will be an AMD follow up but I'm waiting for Zen because right now the answer is a cheap APU if you want a cheap machine that runs an APU so I did a lot of research and you start to get into dual course really quickly down at the bottom of Intel's lineup and the reality of it is when it comes to cost of the silicon there is no real reason that Intel should still be shipping a dual core at least not over $100 so I would love for Zen to bring the fight to Intel in that mainstream segment in a real meaningful way in much the same way that our X 480 has been a smash hit at the 200 to 250 dollar price point even though AMD doesn't have an answer for anything about that it's a very similar strategy you know because our X 480 it's not designed they're not targeting like the GT X 1080 they're targeting the middle of the market and it looks like they're gonna be doing the same thing with Zen which makes a lot of sense I think people are kind of tired of being quote-unquote trapped and you know Intel's the ecosystem because if you want like a modern CPU they're kind of your only option and in addition to paying like that sort of extra you know Intel tax if you will on just just like you were talking about so yeah and I mean there's more to there's more to modern than just the CPU because I would even make the argument that you know you could buy used Intel hardware you could go grab a 3770k overclock that still really good processor great processor and you know if you want to go back to the enthusiast platform ones assuming you can find a board and I talked about this in my what CPU should I buy video but assuming you can find a board you can go back to something like a 39 60 X you can get those on Amazon for like 180 200 bucks I saw them used yeah and I haven't checked out eBay lately but like yeah you can get like a 6 core for a pretty good value four o'clock that's not out of that thing the problem is the platform so you're gonna be missing a lot of USB 3 ports you're gonna be missing USB 3.1 10 gigabit for sure you're gonna be missing um dot 2 you're gonna be missing things that require BIOS level support even though the hardware is there so something like an nvme SSD that goes into a PCIe slot you're not gonna have support for that bottleneck by that by the interface board yeah yep well not even just that the motherboard manufacturer has to specifically enable it yeah they have to add BIOS support for it and let's face it you show me a motherboard manufacturer that cares about their motherboards after the product cycle is over and I will show you an incredulous face like this I like to say I'll put a unicorn in your driveway yeah that's good too yeah yeah I'll put a unicorn in your incredulous face Wow all right so let's see what are people saying they're saying they have expansion slots so it's not quite that is a good point yeah but there's some stuff that you will not get with an expansion slot Thunderbolt comes to mind vulnerable must have support at the board level before you can add an expansion card to it even though some motherboards do support expansion cards notably the rampage 5 extreme that I have in my personal rig doesn't have it on board but there's a header like a data header that you can plug in this specific expansion card and that specifically will work native support just seems to play more nicely with things overall that's right so like I know what like on the upcoming um the the kb light from intel but it's going to have native I think USB 3.1 perhaps without me like an add-in chip I think KB Lake was also gonna add a Thunderbolt Thunderbolt 3 that best well it might be both yeah I think you're right actually it was one of the other yeah it had three it I just remember that but yeah alright so the flash memory summit this is sort of a big deal if you're into if you're into that kind of thing the original article here is from Engadget have you not been able to load this up yet I have to factor or so yeah just go get it okay yeah that's fine don't worry I'm all good I'm not good in the hood see gates new six terabyte SSD Dwarfs others on the market and we're talking both in terms of the capacity and in terms of the actual physical size now Seagate's sixty terabyte SSD that they showed off is not the first three and a half inch SSD that I've ever seen in fact let's see if I can find a picture of it the OCZ colossus with a whopping two star rating over on new egg dadsy a here the OCZ colossus took a similar approach back in home plus this like around 2013 2012 something something like that I want to say where they just went to a three and a half inch form factor solely so that they could stuff more flash chips onto a larger PCB in order to ship a capacity that otherwise wasn't possible the problem with the Colossus and the reason that you're not gonna be buying one of Seagate 60 terabyte SSDs unless you are and like I actually have no idea who the customers are for these no idea video production companies maybe no I don't think so I'm kidding I don't think so like who needs sixty terabytes of solid-state storage and doesn't already have like like on a single drive okay yeah on a single drive with a SAS interface I mean the cheap way the incredibly cheap response here would be no one will ever need more than 64 KB of RAM but you making I said it was a cheap response you make a good point that is a cheap response now especially the fact that it's on a single drive over as well okay it's a dual interface drive but over over over just a dual SAS interface instead of being like 60 terabytes of flash storage in like a ginormous server that has doodles and oodles of read and write bandwidth and can handle hundreds and hundreds of thousands of I ops to like this you know ball in interface thing anyway so the problem that they're gonna run into is the same one as before it's a lot of capacity it's a single interface still so you're not really getting a performance benefit for the size and last but not least there is not really a cost benefit because you still have to buy all of those flash dies so let's go ahead and see if we can find the let's see where is it blah blah blah how many how many how many packages can't remember it was something ridiculous and unfortunately this version of the article doesn't have that information there was a different one that I was looking at when I was just like tooling around reading about this but wow this is great the actual the actual marketing line for this is reach 1 petabyte of storage with only 17 drives Wow fantastic right now it is only a demo unit in fact we have reached out to Seagate asking if they can get us a unit just for like another episode of holy shit or something like that cuz this thing's gonna cost like okay if I had to guess I'd say it's gonna cost over $25,000 for sure probably more depending on who exactly the target is because the performance of it is shockingly not that bad again this is something that was covered in the other article I was looking at and unfortunately isn't in this one 4 terabytes per watt of power consumption that's fantastic ultra dense and Technology from micron and uses a unique approach where Seagate is actually still using a single controller to access all of the NAND flash so then they're just using what are effectively kind of like like switch switch technology to allow each like each channel of the controller to access many many many more flash ties than the otherwise it's just like behave right here to control where they developed or is it something else well see Kate's been investing very very heavily in in flash even though they don't actually have anything as I recall so yeah it wouldn't surprise me and they I mean they acquired they acquired LSI a little while back yeah more company seems to be getting involved in then WD start trying to get involved with with NAND yeah they purchased SanDisk or maybe you know I think that happened I remember hearing about it that could be wrong it's an ocean maybe 12 2016 complete so couples like three months ago they they finished up with that yeah okay all right so I guess that's pretty much all there is to it there's a 60 terabyte SSD which is four times the capacity of the next leading SSD Samsung's PM whatever it's called PM 1633 a which is a 15 terabyte SSD we've actually reached out to Samsung that's in a two and a half inch form factor though by the way we had actually reached out to Samsung about getting us one of those and they were they were not able to do so nor did they even reply to our emails I actually I actually wanted it for a specific project I wanted it for the world's most expensive PlayStation 4 a water-cooled PlayStation 4 with you know 15 terabytes of solid-state storage I thought that'd be pretty cool no all right also from the flash summit Toshiba and the original article here is from the register co uk Toshiba teases an even higher capacity SSD quad level so yes I'm su me that's what the Q stands for yeah so four bits per cell which we should probably explain a little bit there's a fast as possible episode about bits per so why don't you do that explanation I've been doing a lot of talking I'm gonna go get a drink of water you explain why q yes okay it's been a while since I've looked at this but the gist of it is that so if you were buying an SSD usually what you'll see on the product page is it'll indicate whether or the SSD is SLC mlc or key LC and what that refers to is how many bits of data each little memory cell inside the NAND flash can hold so an SLC Drive can only hold one bit per cell whereas a TLC Drive can hold three and more sounds better as far as more obviously sounds better but the capacity but as far as capacity it sounds better but usually PLC drives they tend to be a little bit slower performance wise so this is a you cute qlc drive that holds four bits per cell so we might be able to see some really really good capacities with it and indeed they're kissing there this this I guess it's a prototype but they're teasing it as being a hundred terabytes there's not a whole lot that's been confirmed right now on this it looks like it's all talk the the qlc technology was also released very recently it looks like it would be a 3d SSD so I guess the company that's most famous for this is Samsung because they marketed their 3d there are 3d SSDs pretty heavily where instead of having the chips all on one plane they're actually stacked like so so it will increase the data density so we're looking at a 3d SSD with a PCIe gen3 interface so it's not SATA it's PCI Express over hard hair bias at capacity and oh hi Linus um three gigabytes a second us acquit sequential read and one gigabyte per second sequential right javi gigabytes per second yeah that's that's quite a bit more than like Samsung has their 950 which is I think their their highest and thing right now that I can find but three I think is almost a whole gig higher than that if my memory serves me correctly yeah and it's not leave an GME either because this is uh let's see what like what interface is it even using well that's that's a big deal isn't because um more bits per cell usually means a bit slower yeah so yeah but I don't but this is but because it's 3d and it's a via me so so there's a couple of things to bear in mind here so you've got a lot of NAND dies you have many many many many many flash chips that you can read from and you can write to so assuming your controller isn't a bottleneck assuming you have a sophisticated enough controller you can do these massive throughput numbers mm-hmm even though we're talking qlc flash which it surprises me that they're putting this in an enterprise product first frankly well I think um it seems to be focused more on kind of like playing the copy-paste game removing huge files around because also you look at the random read and write which is measuring iOS it's only 50,000 and 14,000 for read/write respectively and you it's extremely easy to find very affordable consume level say the SST I think say that's a yeah SATA SSDs that have numbers way above that so it's yeah it seems to be more suited for a me a farmer you're moving around huge files where you get those sources like a really good speeds like something that I would even okay so here again like so here's something I would wonder are you even better off let's say you were you were one of one of Netflix's one of Netflix's things where they want to install their hardware in an ISPs space mm-hmm right so yeah hi the term is escaping me but it's Friday okay it's Friday it's been a long week right so if I was Netflix the idea is I want to use as little rack space as possible mm-hmm I want a store as many movies as I can and I want to serve as many customers without unnecessary delays and buffering as I can so very high capacity drives look like well hey that might be a very very very good idea except that by the time you are starting to hit these drives with a lot of random operations are they even any better off than mechanical well couldn't you split your workload then like like let's say just just accesses to your web page or things like validating a login couldn't you couldn't you do that with like something faster on the random and they just have these do nothing but post videos and then if you were gonna do that if you're gonna split the workload anyway then how do you just have why don't you spread out this data over more drives so that people are less likely to be trying to hit the same thing at the same time well you could you could just like to buy a bunch of these and they're writing together but then that would get very expensive probably so this is kind of scary um the qlc drive would have a three petabyte to six petabyte workload over its lifetime so what does that lifetime what that sounds like to me is that you could only write this drive and correct me if I'm wrong somewhere between 30 to 60 times okay so a pedabytes a thousand TB so so like so a million gigabytes yeah would be a petabyte yeah yeah that actually give you think about something like Netflix that what so if it seems like you would have to get you a lot of these so below you would be so you're right I mean they only change their library every once in a while uh-huh so as long as they're smart about how they utilize them maybe it helps oh no ok so hold on a second this is using a PCI Express interface by the way I think I might have said it was SAS or something before but yeah and it was PCIe let's move into sponsors for today number one is Squarespace and Nick isn't here so I don't have to do the Squarespace read the way he says to 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know de nouveau is a copy protection scheme for games and it's over it has been successfully cracked with both doom and rise of the Tomb Raider apparently already available online with a functional bypass for Deneuve o--'s anti tampering technology it was correct the crack was created by a Bulgarian hacker called boxxy boxxy boxxy boxxy can you do a bulgarian accent i have no idea what they sound like bulgaria all right well he's also working on a crack for Just Cause 3 along with several other recent de nouveau titles the crack exploits a bug in steam which allows users to play the full game while steam thinks the game is a free demo version it appears as though this is given that this is a steam steam exploit that it could be fixed with a steam update so it may not be functional for long so there you have it so you will either have to buy the game or you will have to never update steam again DRM versus hackers is just like a never-ending battle alright quantum break is officially coming to steam this isn't our rapid-fire news topics let's go ahead and drop that in the twitch chat in case you guys are sort of curious about it at all let's go at the original article here is from overclocked 3d net I will go ahead and go back to my thing so basically it's coming September 14th 2016 so in about a month it this will end its exclusivity in the Windows Store I would love to say that I this is because Microsoft just has the best interests of gamers at heart and wants to support a more open ecosystem in fact they've even made some statements that would seem to support that kind of do not walk on the green screen second person I've caught doing that today gonna have to repaint that whole thing that is a hassle that is a royal hassle hashtag fired hash - no he's not fired I'm just he does it again he might be man anyway sorry it includes all the updates that are available in the Windows 10 store version will support DirectX 11 and will not be a Universal Windows platform game meaning that any of the limitations that come with that whether they're related to benchmarking multi-gpu or whatever the case may be framerate limits but will not be imposed on it I'm still a little bit surprised that games that there are windows App Store no sorry not windows elsewhere just Windows Store exclusive games yeah surprises me a little bit by the time it sinks in for you my hope is that it will be over yeah there we go but then again they've demonstrated as they did with games for Windows Live that they're willing to stick with a terrible thing for an awful long time before giving up that's kind of human nature oh yes so well this thing is basically on fire but let's stick with it anyway pretty fine yeah all right let's go ahead and go this is kind of fun so the first commercial mission to the moon approved for Florida company moon Express I already love the name of their company sounds like a plan to express from Futurama delivery service to the movie i I have to I have to wonder if it's intentional like I hope it's intentional that's freaking awesome so the US government has given them the go-ahead to launch the first commercial mission to the moon so the moon Express CEO and co-founder said it's a huge milestone for us not quite as catchy as one small step for man one large whenever leap giant giant leap thank you for mankind not quite as catchy as that but maybe he have quite as long to write it given that he didn't sit in a spacecraft for a long time you know I wonder I wonder what the story is behind that I'm sure I'm sure it's been talked about like weather heat whether it was spontaneous or whether he like thought about it and planned it it had to require at least a few minutes of pre-planning I mean it's frustrating because you're sports fan so you'll be able to relate to this it's frustrating because the greatest moments in sports are sometimes made as much by the commentator as they are by the athlete oh yeah because they put it in the appropriate context they get you amped up for it they they they make the moment something that goes beyond a fantastic athletic feat and something that becomes culturally iconic because you can like you can okay so the the the Bobby Orr goal mm-hmm it's amazing to watch but with that with that commentation a commentary commentation commentary commentary thank you with that commentary it's something that like like it's like moving to a to a hockey fan anyway so most people wouldn't care um doesn't it drive you crazy when you can tell that they had a sheet of paper on in front of them with like epic moment quotes that they've been thinking up over the last month and they just say well oh you you can always tell when it's like oh you were staying up late at night last week just trying to think of this stuff and now you have your moment American American commentators are the worst I'm sorry in what regard though you could be right in depending on doing that I notice it so much less on Canadian broadcasts the contrived fake nonsense on a big game win especially when it's like not a close game like when when the when the outcome has basically been decided since the you know middle of the second period or game yeah yeah yeah we're like they've got like this quote that they were obviously saving that makes it like I'll f it like an epic triumph when it was just kind of a beat-down I've see I've actually seen I don't disagree with you but I have seen it in other countries as well like if I'm walking the like Premier League in English soft okay there could be a game pulled away by halftime and then you know the announcer will go on in this Golf announcer style drone for the second 45 minutes and then with the final whistle goes I'm just like okay like so your point is very well taken they'll understand what you're saying um all right so back to back to going to the moon the company has raised more than thirty million dollars so far and planned to unveil their mx1 a lander at the Cape Canaveral Air Station the first launch is targeted for late to 2017 this is kind of funny the FAA has not actually issued a launch license yet and that will be considered separately from the mission itself so while they do have permission to travel between Earth's stratosphere and the moon and land there they do not have permission to actually which layer of the atmosphere does the FAA is jurisdiction in I don't know either so I don't know if you asked the FAA maybe it never ends you know what it wouldn't surprise me all right ah else we got oh the Kansas thing I thought was pretty okay let's move on to that where is that Oh what is that indeed I saw what Kansas farm Suze max mind over quote massive IP glitch unquote so let's go ahead I'll pull up the original article from the Washington Post you want to go ahead and get us going on this yeah so this is pretty nuts Oh max mind is a company out of a wall fan Massachusetts I should ride across the river from where I lived when I was in law school and they are a company that maps IP addresses to geographical areas now what they did is they had one one point that they considered the default center of the u.s. so and this one there for a center of the universe exactly as hashtag hashtag Canadian commentary okay so and basically what this is the geographic center of the country or anything else is is suppose you had a cardboard cutout shaped exactly like the US and you balanced it on a pin the geographic center is where it would balance like where the pin would be and this happened to be very close to these folks folks his house that lived in Kansas and so what ended up happening is all this IP traffic was being mapped back to essentially their front yard and what ended up happening was for years they had cops showing up at their door at all hours accusing them of being involved in all sorts of crime or whatever other shenanigans and they're just it's like random elderly couple that lives on the farm or something I had no idea was going on so basically Mack's mind is responsible for mapping IP addresses and they used this this geographical center as the default location for any us-based IP address so let's say that you know oh man like what even would be an example of something that didn't have a proper IP address and they just default like why would they even be doing this I it was a little bit unclear from the story honestly maybe if someone was like you know using a VPN but even then why sometimes when mapping IPS apparently they're able to only determine the country of origin that's it yeah so there it is mm-hmm so so if all they know is oh you're somewhere in the United States you get mapped to this random place in Kansas I mean these are some of the complaints that this poor family has been dealing with they've been accused of interrupting email service for customers of a certain small business they've been accused of harbouring stolen vehicle harboring runaway children and keeping girls in the house to make pornographic films I mean I really like how that last ones in quotation marks but yeah so so it says ambulances have appeared to prepare to say suicidal persons FBI agents federal marshals IRS collectors and other law enforcement officers have appeared on their doorsteps at all hours of the day and night and even one random war a broken toilet was left in their driveway without explanation all right so max mind has since changed their default location in the u.s. to the center of a lake west of Wichita but in the meantime the Arnold's have filed a lawsuit against Mac mine max mine seeking compensation punitive damages in excess of $75,000 make a comment on that yes so the reason they chose that dollar amount in excess of $75,000 so here's the reason for this super quick crash course in jurisdiction of American law so they follow the case in federal court and if you want to file something in federal court in the US there's two required there you can do it in one of two ways one is if it involves a federal question or a federal law but the other is if there's what's called diversity assistantship or as the two parties in this case the old couple and maximize or from two different states and they are and the amount in controversy is above $75,000 so that's why there's a sort of vague in excess we won't in excess of 75 grand like who knows how much the actual amount that they'll get will be but that is just sort of like a venue selection trick to get them at the federal court as opposed to state court oh I see okay makes sense yeah let's move on to a pretty important rumor so the original post here is actually from the Linus tech tips forum because I think I think they are quickly being wiped out and I'm not gonna say anything about this because I may or may not actually have real information but basically here there's an imgur post of what appears to be I'm going to read it word for word it is this image or post that is the entire that is the entire source of everything that I'm saying it appears to be an asus rog Strix g 7 v 2 v MVC 0 3 3 t 7.3 inch what seems to be a laptop of some sort this this potentially completely photoshopped page says that it okay it seems to be a laptop because it has a core i7 6700 H you processor word next to this picture of what appears to be a laptop so I guess the implication being that one of those is inside one of those ddr4 8 gig ram 256gb SSD EMA period 2 1tb 7200rpm something something that's a word in a language that I don't understand norwegian nvidia geforce gtx 1066 gb hmm so the implication is then a laptop with a gtx 1 0 6 0 6 gb could potentially be a thing for nineteen thousand 999 of whatever the devil these are the region chrome is that is that right i think that's what it said I wish I wish Luke we're here because Luke is very good at Scandinavian currency we were having a discussion about this year today that's an interesting talent don't worry about it um so an interesting actually no I'm not gonna point out anything that's interesting about it there were also some let's see if any of the other listings are still are still alive it looks like this stuff is being pulled down so all the links that were originally given for expert dot n o are yep nope you know not I don't know what any of this is but it definitely isn't that so hmm very very interesting very interesting all Scandinavian letters we're easily Luke anyway Britain that's as much information as I have that's all the information I have to all right self-driving Tesla original article here's from the telegraph co uk saves a man's life by steering him to the hospital so this opens up and introduced ok let's go through the basics the basics of the story first also every journal article from telegraph I think I already said that originally posted by fake Z Z on the forum so it his Tesla Model X is credited with having helped save an American man's life after its autopilot function got him to the hospital when he suffered a pulmonary ilysm the man's name is Joshua Neely a lawyer from Springfield Missouri he called his wife and said something was wrong that he couldn't breathe and thinking it would be quicker than pulling over to call an ambulance he set the autopilot autonomous function of the Tesla Model X he just got the car a few weeks before this happened he doesn't remember much after he set the mode as the car drove him over 20 miles to Branson he managed to steer the car the last mile or so between the motorway and the hospital so this is an interesting debate mm-hmm how is it that we consider Tesla's autopilot record because a couple people have died now do they get one in the bank if autopilot saves a life is that how it is that how it works like life savers lives taken I don't know I'm not making the rules for this I'm just asking questions we're gonna straw pull this friends I haven't got a straw pull this okay go ahead I mean I mean I feel like this was inevitable when you have when the design when whoever's idea this was first said hey why don't we try to make a self-driving car but I don't know how do you measure something like this whether or not like this is a good or bad thing because okay I'll say this so how much testing has been done versus death rate because people who just drive regular cars both kill themselves and other people all the time yeah so even though it's easy to say oh you can't trust these computers to drive cars if their fatality rate is still much lower than you know some random person behind the wheel but you're you're okay the problem though is that you're approaching this from a very a very scientific standpoint like a purely fact-based standpoint and the reality of it is even for even for people who care more about facts than feelings let's say it was you know your mom who died in a self-driving car do you care that the odds were better for her like that the overall odds like fewer people would die if we were all in self-driving cars do you care your mom's dead and maybe wouldn't have been dead if she had been operating the steering wheel like that's something to consider is that while it's easy to kind of go oh the greater good and this and that that doesn't change that you're gonna be dealing with people who are inherently emotionally distraught and very upset and prepared to make a very loud noise about why self-driving cars are met are bad if someone close to them dies in one or is seriously injured in one where as we all accept just because of because we've all been born into a world where cars operated by people are the norm we all accept the risks that come along with a manually operated car people also like to feel like they're in control which is why people tend to be even more afraid of flying than they are to driving even though flying is too simply much safer you have a feeling of not being and controlling if something goes wrong there's nothing you can do about it that's right and I would also make the argument that flying is a much more terrifying way to die because there I can think of very few scenarios where you won't have an awful lot of time to think about it yeah and you just like plummet for quite a while I don't know what the terminal velocity of the human being is but it's not that high yeah so no it's not so we've got 65% of you saying yes we can evaluate autopilot systems on the on the bank system what to be fair one end one out you come out net even when these start becoming more mainstream I feel like this is how we're going to make decisions on them like this is how governments are going to regulate them this is the way that companies are going to be approaching safety it's so it's awfully going to affect like how people use them so I don't know I just I'm wondering with the whole you know the Marsha progress and all that like I'm wondering how much voices of people that oh I lost a loved one in a in a self-driving car accident and maybe I wouldn't have had they actually been controlling the car I wonder if those boys will just cos will just end up being lost in the conversation because ultimately I think we're going to make decisions based on more words numbers I don't know I mean the thing is is that it's pretty hard to lose a voice in the conversation these days with social media being what it is true yeah I mean people can you know with through amplification factors like Twitter and reddit all it takes is one viral incident okay suddenly the conversation changes you know at least a little bit so and at the end of the day I mean any politician is at the mercy of the voters so whatever they can do quietly behind closed doors that is something that their voters wouldn't agree with is all fine and good but as soon as something goes viral and there's a bunch of pressure and it looks like they might actually not get reelected if you're a career politician not getting reelected is like getting fired effectively exactly or like or you know if you're let's say a senator and you have to go back to being the mayor of you know three sticks Nebraska then you know that's it's like getting a huge demotion within with the coma C advantage it does become a career I think I don't know how it is in Canada but like in the US House income a see success rate in the election is like over 90 percent like most of these people were there for a long time so basically we're looking at something that is potentially very emotional and and can be driven by fear absolutely so I don't know yeah because yeah I mean how many self or like autonomous vehicles other than cars are there if they're still it really aren't all that many like most metro systems and train systems they have a human conductor or or a human driver you know I don't know if this guy has one I think there might be a remote controller though I'm actually not sure I slowed the SkyTrain is I'll see how it matters but okay if you're gonna hate on the SkyTrain hate on the SkyTrain right okay the SkyTrain doesn't go anywhere it covers yeah that's true tiny fraction yeah of the Greater Vancouver area that it's basically irrelevant our mass transit in North Carolina is a joke - I'm not trying to take on that this is just as bad so all right well speaking of things that are bad the end of the show is bad because the show's ending not because the show's dead and maybe the show was without--without when they said if it was a bet if it was a bad show it would be good at this ending so yes maybe I'll do a straw poll is the show bad or the end bad the show is bad a show was that actually we even like that is perfect and is bad this pool is bad all right let's find out was bad and I did not put an option for Michael Jackson all right it has been a long week it's been two very long I don't even know why probably because last week was a holiday week we're also a little bit short-handed this week yeah a little short-handed this week what was Luke not here Brandon's out today mm-hmm what was people hating people hating they're safe yeah every single every single voter is saying something's bad it's like look at this negativity they mostly hate your poll I mostly hate my poll mm-hmm I can tell you one person who doesn't hate my poll I'm not gonna say it see you next week same bat-time same bat-channel