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The WAN Show - GTX 980 & 970 Released & Microsoft buys Minecraft! - September 19, 2014

2014-09-19
and I think we're alive so maybe possibly hopefully yeah maybe possibly hopefully we certainly we certainly think so I will jump into the twitch chat all right so welcome to the windchill guys the weekly stream that happens every week come hell or high water no matter what even if we have already been streaming for almost a continuous 24 hours prior to the show which is what's been going on so I think we best open with a brief introduction or a brief explanation of what the heck is going on and where we actually are for those of you who don't know we have been live streaming and videos mod twist or mod 24 which was on a 24 hour celebration of PC modding and Penske gaming I know for a fact NVIDIA invested a lot of money into oh you've got to be kidding me the dashboard should not have ads all right maybe Amazon will get that face alright so we've been down here for in videos mod 20 for a 24 hour celebration of PC gaming and PC modding they invested a lot of money into the event and they asked us to to come down and host the PC case modding competition there were a lot of really famous PC case motors including dart Beavis and someone that I've known for like eight years talking to along forums I think this is the first time we've ever actually met in person which was really cool funnily enough his rig isn't behind us but we do have the winning rig behind us which was I think the story that went along with it was really cool was really really special had to do with their their favorite land one of their favorite and video employees who who used to come down to that land and people are saying I look exhausted guys I wonder why I wonder why I have hardly slept in the last few days here but don't don't worry we are gonna make it through this show in spite of the fact that neither Luke nor I has actually really looked at the the stream document so we're gonna pick some highlighted topics for this week first up is of course the launch of the GTX 980 and GTX 970 that is one of the reasons that we are down here in California right now and we have a video up for the 980 and I think we're gonna be getting a video up hopefully next week yeah you're gonna hit the 970 and I don't know if this is official or not but I kind of leaked it a little bit that we might be doing some oh we will definitely be doing some SLI testing so the next big thing that happened this week Microsoft officially acquires Mojang so for those of you who don't know Mojang is the maker of the infamous minecraft so what microsoft plans to do with minecraft I think people either don't know or don't want to know yeah or somewhere in between yep and then there was something really interesting somewhere no all right apple has updated their security on the iPhone on iOS to such that if your phone is locked even they cannot access your data which I guess is their way of absolving themselves and any responsibility to report any of their user's data to the government in such a situation as that would be requested of them so I kind of give them massive massive kudos for that with that said the release of iOS 8 doesn't seem to have created a whole ton of fanfare amidst the community so it seems to be a lot of under the hood improvements without a ton of you know huge graphical changes like we saw in iOS 7 so why don't we call that our main topics roll the intro and that's cool and get this show on the road yeah you you can sign up at squarespace.com slash Linus and use offer code Linus to save 10% on your own beautiful customizable website so we have only got let's see 75 minutes of battery so we're gonna have to kind of fly through our topics today and and do our best to to cover them as well as we can especially given we have no idea what we're talking about so four gtx 980 which is actually our first topic you can check out our youtube video so we can fly past this one pretty quick and also the GTX 970 launched we'll be having a video coming next week so I don't think we need to talk a ton about these individuals well they are kind of important they are kind of important things - should we talk about them yeah I think I think it may not be it may not be a terrible idea so in our performance testing in the YouTube video we found that 980 and 780 Ti go pretty toe-to-toe in a lot of different situations but then 980 crushes 780 I in power yeah so the the to be clear guys when you look at any other review on the web you're gonna find you're gonna find 980 pretty much dominating everything else but the key difference is that we overclock all of our cards as far as we possibly can before running all of our benchmarks so what we found is that while 980 is a beast overclock I think there was only one game that wasn't running over 1500 megahertz on the core just like really yeah you serious bro our 780ti is also a bit of a beast and runs well over 1200 megahertz - so given the number of CUDA cores given the 384 bit memory bus that 780 Ti has a lot of raw horsepower to throw at any kind of a any kind of a rendering problem so we ended up with them kind of trading blows the one that I'm actually really interested in Annie so kind of a funny story why we didn't end up with a GTX 970 in time for us to do a review for launch I was sitting in the briefing down in in California which is where I am now so here I was sitting I was sitting in the briefing very close to where I am right now and I got an email from gigabyte yo dawg here's a graphics card codename something and I wasn't looking that closely at it because I was in the middle of a presentation I do you want us to send you a sample for a review and I kinda went yeah sure and I figured because NVIDIA was only seating GTX 980 s I figured that gigabyte was sending us a 970 turns out that the one that arrived from gigabyte is a 980 so we actually ended up with 299 ATS and no 970 s at all so I asked a good bite about it I said hey do you guys have a 970 that we can get our hands on we haven't we haven't been able to do a review yet and they said oh well we actually prioritized you to get a 980 because you're a key partner for us I kind of went oh thank you it didn't work out very well for anyone but appreciate it yeah I appreciate the thought you guys you guys were awesome we love working with you and all that stuff I just really wish we have a 970 so we can do our review so that's why that's not out this week but that'll be next week yeah we'll get that up but I'm really interested in that one because the pricing is so aggressive as low as three hundred and thirty bucks in the u.s. for our card that is effectively around 20% slower than the GTX 980 because they cut down some of the functional units and I I don't actually know you're at the event but I'm assuming it also has auto balancing power rails no no no sorry that is still a top tier I know that's still a top tier only feature so 780ti GTX 980 are the only ones that have that auto balancing power feature that makes overclocking on these cards pretty flexible yeah and pretty beastly yeah yeah yeah I see that'll be interesting because it'd be completely different overclocking experience of the new platform so the O P here is good bytes what I'm gonna do this week is I'm just gonna kind of spam twitch chat because I didn't think to bring oh you have got to be kidding me I didn't think to bring two oh wait what oh here we go here we go I got this I got this I didn't think to bring to capture devices here so we've just got the one for our camera so I can't actually screen share with you guys but what I'm gonna do is I'm going to spam chat with the links to the Articles that we're talking about so the original posters let me manage the shared space the original poster was good bytes and basically Mike soft has revealed a fair number of details about DirectX 11.3 and DirectX 12 now we've got a lot of information in the doc that hopefully Luke is reading right now so he can talk about this a little bit but in a nutshell we actually had the DirectX project lead presenting at the Nvidia pressed event last week and in a nutshell he basically said okay well we'll look here here's what it is DirectX 11 point three is the features so it's got the new rendering features that are really exciting and are going to potentially free up overhead from the GPUs make it so that they can more efficiently render things like multiple transparent objects so they showed off yeah rasterizer ordered views thank you so you showed off a few different things that DirectX 11 points we can do and then explain that DirectX 12 is basically going to have those features except with all that CPU performance optimization that we've been hearing about ever since AMD first started talking about mantle and how it was going to allow your CPU to your multi-core CPU to spread out workloads much more effectively now the funny thing about DirectX 12 is that not only have they made it so that they're going to be able to split the workload across CPUs but in the slides that he showed us something really interesting that we noticed is CPU usage overall also plummets so while the theory that like the theory that I've had up until up until he gave us that presentation was that all of a sudden we're gonna have this yeah we're gonna have a justification for for you know gtx 59 60 X just for straight gaming and games are gonna be able to leverage that I kind of will hold on a second gtx 59 60 did I say that core i7 59 60 actually you so I it's just running one game I was like okay yeah maybe we'll be able to use all eight of these cores and all 16 of these threads but then I kind of realized well hold on a second if CPU utilization is going down this much we might just not need the cores or the clock speed it'll be really interesting to see what happens to what we need in terms of CPU power for gaming I mean what I'd really like to see happen is I'd like to see game developers use the CPU horsepower that we have anyway AI destructible environments I don't know how CPU intensive it is but nvidia z' new global illumination feature yeah i would love to see some of that offloaded to the cpu so that we can get truly much more dynamic visually games in the next couple of years here it might take us a little bit to see some of these implementations because there's a few warnings it says it's very powerful but it's difficult to master and quote unquote dangerous and inexperienced in the hands of inexperienced programmers they're saying that the development model is that a few code gurus will make stuff like engines and platforms that other people can build on top of and outside of that they don't really expect too many people to touch it because it will be a very very complicated thing to work with all right so our next our next topic is engineers made a radio the size of an ant that doesn't require a battery this was originally posted by ET RJ on the Linus tech tips form and the original article is from the verge comm so engineering professors from Stanford and the University of California Berkeley I don't know I don't know how that sentence was supposed to be anyway created the radial the size of a net no battery it's actually powered by harvesting radio signals and doesn't require any external power so the goal is to use these chips to facilitate the internet of things so for those of you who aren't familiar with the term Internet of Things it it refers to the concept that everything will be connected so not just your SmartWatch not just your smartphone but even something as simple as your headphones and and high quality headphones not headphones we're having connectivity in them is just this janky clergy a gimmicky type of feature just everything will have connectivity because it will be so cheap to implement and so easy to end and that even good products we'll just we'll just have it so something as simple as you know your power adapter for your notebook could be connected there's no reason why it couldn't be and that could feed into your house and tell your house how much power it's consuming and the house could you know automatically balance power who knows like the idea is just that once everything's connected we're gonna unlock a lot of possibilities that we didn't have before things like doorknobs things like your car door so just being able to carry your smartphone in your pocket and have everything in your life be connected so obviously we're not there yet no I mean you look you just you can look at something like the Moto 360 as a great example of how yeah this type of technology is not cheap or power efficient enough yet for ubiquity mind you are the problem is because they used like a who's a processor from 2010 you have to assume that they did that for cost reasons there's there's a lot of there's actually a lot of different reviews out there talking about how it doesn't really seem to be much of a sensible reason because there's actually cheaper chips that would have been better yeah I don't know maybe they got like a massive bulk order for of it for some likes ridiculously cheap price or something I don't even that doesn't really make any sense because I mean the the release cadence for mobile products tends to be about a year and so I wouldn't expect Motorola to be refreshing the Moto 360 for probably about a year so it's not like you order a year's worth of CPUs every that doesn't make any sense it's just it's it seems so silly like I just I don't understand why they did that and I was so excited to get at most 360 and I'm so happy that I've taken to never pre-ordering things yeah yeah because holy crap anymore so anyway these these new chips that are powered by by harvesting radio signals are only supposed to cost a few cents to produce so that could make it possible to integrate them in these types of commodity items things like things like light bulbs things they're just all over your house and and the kind of information they could provide could be pretty cool I mean not just being able to tell you okay how much power the lightbulb is consuming but allow you to turn it on and turn it off yeah they can send a receive information yeah so you could be like kitchen light bulb on yeah I mean that kind of stuff exists right now but the problem is that it's really expensive the app ecosystems are not that consistent yeah and it's just not quite it's not quite there yet moving on we have Microsoft acquiring Mojang so the guys that make Minecraft for 2.5 billion dollars it was officially announced on September 15th I'm miss Pamela same switch Jen oh my goodness that is a lot of money so I mean and sorry this is again posted on the forum by the same guy that posted over there et rjrj there we go so a lot of the community is is pretty is pretty upset about you know feeling like they they got abandoned by knotch at the same time like but I get it yeah he has his reasons he said that he decided he doesn't want the responsibility of owning a company of such global significance and you know what he's kind of caught a point because yeah I think and it's not it's not a matter of selling out when you've already made the money not chosen have to work another day in his life but he will yeah because he's his passion he wants to do something else but when you're when you're when you're running something of such significance that's of importance to so many people you end up trapped he became minecraft instead of being himself he was minecraft at this point in time and so you know yes he sold the money for what he could get I mean I don't think that that's an unfair thing to do and I don't I think it's unreasonable to expect someone to I don't know what give the company way like like how do you how do you get rid of the company without selling out it's not even you're gonna run into a ton of legal difficulty trying to give away an asset that's worth billions of dollars like that that is not ok you legitimately can't do so if he wants out if he doesn't want to do minecraft for the rest of his life then you know what I guess it's it might be better to do it now than to wait even longer and longer and longer and I think I think that it's uh I don't know I I'm excited to see what he's gonna do next yeah yeah me too because and other things that I heard like this isn't necessarily in the dark and I haven't done enough research on this at all but I've just kind of heard through the rumor mill that a lot of it was being frustrated too because he wants to work on all these other different things but the second he does everyone's like boy you're working on my crafts look how much money is making you why are you working Micah yeah he's like I don't care when you when you have that many millions of dollars like I think some people feel like they need more millions of dollars but when you have that much money a lot of people are just gonna kind of go yeah you know what I'm set for life this is fine and and you know the funny thing the funny thing about it is even guys like I saw I saw an interesting I saw an interesting quote from Donald Trump not that long ago where he was talking about why why he wheels and deals why he tries to make more money he's like yeah I don't need money basically I'm driven and I and III you know I love to deal you know I love to I love to buy I love to sell I this is this is what I do this is what gets me up in the morning and I kind of went yeah you know I I kind of I guess I gotta get that yeah and you know if notches passion is making great games and ultimately it's not about the money then that doesn't mean he can't make a ton of money doing it it just means that he's gonna be driven to do that thing and if we put him in this box where it's like you have to work on Minecraft because money that's not gonna make any sense no in his head no interesting situation I'm be but I also I like I also get it because minecraft was is so community driven it's all about community and feeling like a fearless leader for a long yeah I mean you've had this you've had this advocate you've had this face to put on minecraft where unfortunately you know what does face on minecraft anymore the graphics ain't that good you want a better face so boxy alright we've got some pretty good news here so Opie is QWERTY Warrior Visa released the displayport 1.3 standard so the maximum link bandwidth has been increased to 32 point four gigabit per second so the reason we need higher link bandwidth to you guys is not only higher resolution displays but higher refresh rate displays currently with DisplayPort 1.2 4k is limited to 60 Hertz but there's no real reason why particularly a TN panel couldn't run higher than 60 Hertz why not why not why Poe I put everyone in a box no no we want faster display links so that we can start getting faster and faster refresh rates on these higher resolution displays so extremely excited to see that it's about a 50% increase in maximum refresh rate or an in maximum bandwidth versus DisplayPort 1.2 a it should be noted though that that's not going to translate directly into 50% higher resolution or 50% higher for frame rate because you're gonna have more overhead built into that so there we go actually that's the next point in the dock here so the combined link rate delivers twenty five point nine two gigabit per second of uncompressed video data so that allows higher resolutions like the recently announced 5k 51 twenty by twenty eight eighty and that's through one cable without compression extremely exciting I mean you know what as much as it's great that we're getting interfaces that are going to be able to handle these resolutions without compression it is a Madi how Windows can't and guys compressions not necessarily the scariest thing in the world a little bit of compression isn't going to kill us and we are reaching the limits of what copper based interfaces are going to be able to do I mean that's that's one of the reasons why hdmi and displayport have been so slow to continue increasing the bandwidth because we're getting pretty close to what we're gonna be able to do without much more expensive without much more expensive transmitters and receivers on either end and or more expensive link materials so we're either gonna get to the point where we're legitimately going to need fancy cables again to make that video yeah I know crap or we're just going to accept what so so the processors are gonna get more complex and less expensive and we're just going to accept that we're gonna have to do some on fly compression on the fly compression and decompression and hope that that doesn't add to the latency so this is cool you can drive to 4k ultra HD monitors when using basic coordinated video timing continues to support VGA DVI and HDMI via cheapo cheapo adapters that's one of the things that I really like about DisplayPort is that compared to HDMI even HDMI 2.0 which the new gtx 980 supports and can handle 4k at 60 hertz DisplayPort adapts to other standards much more easily which is huge huge thumbs up although I was pretty pleased to find out that hdmi 2.0 didn't end up requiring a connector change yeah yeah that was rumored for a long time and it ended up not becoming a thing extreme nice we got a rant about that on the way in sure I think quite a while back but yeah I think we did I mean on the one hand okay but the flip side of that is I sure wish HDMI had a locking connector yes so I'm glad that we're retaining forwards and backwards compatibility for so long I mean that really is admirable but it could have even done like a side mounted screw mount thing though there is the same there is a company that does kind of this ghetto locking HDMI connector I think they patented it though okay and what it does is it is it clips into just part of the housing that's not meant to be a lot yeah but it kind of cheats and clips in there yeah so so there you go visa releases display part one place i awesome moving down we have Comcast telling you customers hold on hold on just labor one point three enable support for future 8k displays so that's something that we should probably mention and that's oh oh this is cool also supports a single 4k monitor 60 Hertz 24-bit color over two lanes while offering another two lanes for alternative data types like super speed USB data Oh so that's pretty cool no DisplayPort is really coming into its own and is going to I I think it's just gonna be the dominant it's really interesting I mean look look at again back to GTX 980 how hard is NVIDIA banking on DisplayPort three display port connectors on the back of the card pretty heavy dude yes pretty heavy-duty I mean g-sync only works over DisplayPort this is an Nvidia technology that they kind of went okay where's the industry heading we're gonna bet on DisplayPort and you know what for that matter AMD has done the same thing yeah yeah AMD was shipping cards with to display port connectors much really around video was so I mean when those two agree on something probably a good thing just putting that hood yeah so Comcast has started telling customers to stop using Core tour and they denied this they've denied this under there yeah did you post a link in the chat I have not yet but I have alright so this was posted in the forum by and then there was one and there are a couple of articles that were used as references for this though so inquisitor calm and deep web comm but there is there is a lot of information here and I'll let you run through it an agent named Jeremy I almost said Jenny cuz I'm pretty tired but an agent named Jeremy has lovely called tor an illegal service and said that tor is against their usage policies and apparently they've repeatedly asked customers to tell the agent what sites the users were accessing through the tor browser one customer spoke to Jeremy then called back the next day and spoke with an agent named Kelly she reiterated that Comcast does not want its customers using tor and she allegedly said that users who try to use anonymity to cover themselves on the Internet are usually doing things they aren't so to speak that that aren't so to speak illegal we have the right to terminate fine and or suspend your account at any time due to violating the rules you know to me fine should have to come from some kind of legal entity yeah I mean if you what what what's next the grocery stores gonna find me like are you kidding like if they if if I actually I guess a grocery store is a bad example because if I was walking around the grocery store putting things into my coat so that people wouldn't know what I was buying I probably would get I probably would be not explained you wouldn't get fined but you could get prosecuted I think they'd have to wait for you leave the store with it but they do they could have a plain clothing year-round totally different that's legitimately stealin no because what if I intended to pay for it I just didn't want people knowing what I was buying but you've left the store with it no let's say I didn't leave the store ok ok so let's say I okay so hold on a second ok so ok maybe I wouldn't ok so I wouldn't get fined but let's let's go ask you about it they could request you to leave the store ok premises but they can't arrest you you haven't left the store yet what can they do they can follow you around but then that's their private property so that's allowed yeah I don't think there's an equivalent to this no I I'd love to hear from the twitchchat guys let us know especially there's like a loss prevention agents D on 7 desk lul grocery police well if there's a loss prevention agent out there that actually knows they look like shoving stuff yeah ok we'd love to hear about that because I don't what's up like okay so what's the equivalent like my mom does this I know a lot of people that do this kind of stuff where they're like a go grab a drink from the fridge in a store and just drink the whole thing before they're done leaving the store and then just buy it yeah I you know the funny thing about that is it's always made me really uncomfortable even when I was a kid I I it might know my aunt my aunt would often say you know hey are you thirsty you know here here get this and start drinking it and I'd be like no I don't wanna drink until we leave would you'd be like well we're something like what if my cart doesn't work we're shopping we're not leaving so awkward I'm not even worried about that although I did have a really awkward situation at Tim Hortons where I I forgot my wallet and my wife forgot her wallet and we were in Vancouver and I had already placed my order and I was like oh crap I forgot my wallet kind of run out to the car and grab my wife's so when I come back she's got my order ready for me and I'm like yo Dawg I'm sorry my wife doesn't have her wallet either I have to go I think I made it up to them I went and I borrowed some money from a relative who lives in Vancouver and then I went all the way back to that Tim Hortons even though it was out of my way I was like I have cash you know you know but I thought they probably had to throw at least some of the way like I feel terrible anyway sorry what were we talking about it's doing stuff from stores yanking things really right I just feel weird about it I just know I don't do it I know my I think my mom does a little bit I know other people that I go shopping with McDonagh and even with when I'm with someone who's doing it I feel super uncomfortable I don't know why you have to have you on video someone has to watch you put it in your pocket they can follow you and watch you but you have not broken the law until you attempt to leave the state without pain okay so there you go perfectly reasonable because you should be able to go around a shopping center without a basket or shopping cart right I mean they can ask you to leave your bag at the front yeah so I usually and they can ask you to leave the store yeah yeah it is there what is their right to do that yeah we have five thousand live viewers right now who are tuned into our stream was like super late like two hours late like genki genki quality don't know anything about the topics in the middle we have no we have no lighting other than like the terrible florescent lighting in my board room yeah and and you know what guys thanks for showing up we love your support really we appreciate you guys you guys are cool speaking of things that aren't cool is comcast has has a past of being against tour and is listed on towards bad ISP project list thing all right so well as if as if Comcast was not I stood on a good one good hi as people kill more anyway all right so this next topic is from and then there was one as well original articles from VentureBeat so the NSA is mapping the internet I'm not sure if this is news but NSA stuff just like assume anything you could ever dream of that's like bad and on the Internet so the program is trying to create an interactive map of the global Internet in close to real time that would try to identify the devices through which data flows such as routers the program is supposed to helping computer attack and exploit planning offering a battlefield map for cyber warfare targeted is good yeah yeah yeah so targeted companies include annoyed telecom the owner of t-mobile and the German ISP net cologne so pretty cool and I say you guys are just staying cool this is interesting because Germany was already pissed off yeah right about tapping into what's earnings phone so pretty interesting this next one they do really know nothing about it are we gonna do this one are we gonna jump over it yeah I know yeah let's let's let's go ahead so apples warrant canary disappears suggesting new Patriot Act demands so this was originally posted by lols on the forum you don't have an actual link though yeah it's okay okay the original article is from gig ohm so if you want to just maybe post that link in the in the chat so Apple's first transparency report on government activity in late 2013 included a footnote that stated Apple has never received an order under Section 215 of the USA PATRIOT Act we would expect to challenge such an order if served on us so writer and cyber activists cory doctorow recognized that language as a warrant canary or a way of warding the secrecy imposed by the patriot act companies and publishers have included these Canaries to signal to their users that so far they have not been subjected to a given tie secret subpoena by law enforcement when this language is removed it is likely that the situation has changed and the company has been subject to such a request but of course is being told that they can't say anything about it so having that canary in place protects them and their users as long as people are paying attention so section 215 of the Patriot Act permits the NSA to demand companies to hand over their business records in secret it is believed that it is the legal foundation of the prism program so yeah not good mind you this this comes this comes out around the same time as Apple's recent change to the way they handle user data which is awesome which is pretty awesome that basically in a nutshell means that if your phone is locked even Apple cannot get to it so that is is pretty much their way of throwing up their hands and going well okay you served us a warrant for something we legitimately can't access so pace bro I really like that that's really cool and I actually know a lot of people that are pretty heavy Android users that might legitimately switch just because of that reason it's it's a reasons it's one of a big view I'd like to see how Google responds to this yeah because I you know the way that the way that Google is about data farming they want to do they want all your data on it all the time and they want it all the time I got to feel like if Google were to decide that they were gonna leave your data alone when your phone is locked would be that would be very out of character for them so I don't know he might put them in a bit of an awkward position mm-hmm all right so this was originally posted on the forum by ion basa the world's first fully functional 3d printed car this was bound to happen you got a bet that there were any number of people working on making this happen oh my god you can download a car so it was designed printed and driven by Arizona based Local Motors printing and assembly took just 44 our local motors these are the guys that make try to think that I'm hoping to get alright dad for the review don't worry about it probably won't even happen yeah after 44 hours hours the car was drivable its main the strat I so Italian four layers electric powered it's a two-seat compact roadster it has a battery a motor wiring and suspension these all came from a variety of sources including Renault Weezy city car twice II I don't know I'm clearly tired and I apologize for any words that I'm slurring or or pronouncing correctly cuz I just yeah GTX processors chassis and body are printed from a carbon fiber reinforced plastic compound has only 40 parts to it in comparison to a normal car with 20,000 or more parts this is actually the size into a conversation we had earlier today where we were talking about how electric cars right now are very expensive but once they become more of a commodity item and less of a less of a curiosity less high-tech I expect them to actually be much cheaper don't even know what's battery production because though because that Giga factory that tell us I know right that's only the good name of Tesla by calling them Telus I feel like a horrible person you are a horrible factory that Tesla is intending to build in Nevada will actually produce more of that type of battery than all of the other factories in the entire world combined right now yeah yeah sounds like ridiculous so with battery production going up to that extent I am expecting and base just based on how simple yeah an electric car is compared to an internal combustion car I mean I I think I think gas-powered vehicles are gonna look stupid to my kids by the time they're old enough to be adults buying a car it's it's gonna be this it's gonna be this weird you know eccentric thing to do to own a fossil fuel powered vehicle I really do think so I think that we're still going to continue to see fossil fuels augment battery power so having a small you know lawn mower like Ryder mower class internal combustion engine in there to charge the battery and an emergency or whatever else I think we're gonna continue to see that but expecting cars to just run on gas I don't know industrial vehicles potential especially being down here actually it's pretty amazing while we were coming to and media headquarters I saw on the road at least ten different electric cars and like not just Tesla's because this area is known for Tesla's a whole wide range of them so that was actually really interesting to see the 3d printed car will cost anywhere between 18 and 30 thousand dollars though so right now the materials alone are probably what's driving up the cost I mean just plain plastic filament nothing special about it incredibly expensive you buy enough of that stuff to build a car you're gonna be spending a lot of money now you talk about carbon fiber reinforced filament yeah and also it's it's gonna be such low volume at the beginning that you're not gonna be able to take advantage of motors kind of a specialty kind of shop so it's not surprising I mean if they were producing a thousand times as many of them I think we would see prices drop pretty consider and I'm sure if you work with them it's gonna be a very personalized experience as well this is kind of cool too the cost might seem high at first but many of the parts can be reused when you decide to trade change cars or upgrade so a point yeah I'm guessing things like the motor could potentially be reused if you decide to you know though okay I want a single seater type vehicle I don't see any reason why you could put it inside a different 3d printed vehicle yeah or a very different angle where's like if your battery's running kind of crap you can swap the battery out keep using the chassis and the motor and all that's up or if the motor dies for some reason you can keep using the battery in the chassis mm-hmm and that's another thing too that's that's really cool about the simplicity of an electric vehicle is I think the scariness of car mechanic work is gonna go away to a great extent I mean Tesla showed off what they swap a battery 96 90 seconds late and that's not like huge better in the bottom yeah so if they can do it in 90 seconds I'm sure I can do it in an hour yeah you know yeah I think I can probably handle that you'd have to you dude if you had a torque driver that's it I think that's the only thing you really need Wow is you have to be able to torque in the screws to a very specific right and then I think yeah but you can you can you can buy one of those for what like 40 bucks at Canadian Tire maybe 15 but I think that's all you actually need you need to be a jack up the car okay and then a torque driver I think that's all you need Wow that's outstanding obviously not entirely sure but because I don't think anyone has tried doing it themselves anyways as far as I know that tell me all right so this was originally posted by tech fanatic on the forum and this this is this is actually pretty funny I haven't found out if this ever happened because we weren't out of public event yeah we weren't at the public event down in down in LA but there was an email sent out by AMD to their team red members ready to infiltrate game 24 mentions the warm reception from enthusiasts about their recent AMD 30 live webcast mentioned that we're intrigued that another graphics products company jumped on the bandwagon by announcing a similar event they warmly encouraged their fans to attend event proudly wearing their favorite red t-shirt and encourage their viewers to tweet pictures of themselves wearing their colors at the events and promised to send some love the way of their users I haven't I haven't actually been tuned into the internet enough to know if anything happened so honestly any time I was I was dual streaming our own stream to talk to the chat so I haven't really seen the actual game 24 stream in its entirety I know I haven't even seen the intro videos for the modders whose builds we were covering the creation of for the last 24 hours so you know what we've got to do before we end the show here guys we're gonna do our sponsors next I think then we've got a few more topics thought before we in the show we're gonna we're gonna pick up the camera off the tripod because I think we have ability to do that here it should be easier to move it and we're gonna we're gonna come and we're gonna take a close look at these rigs because they are absolutely beautiful you guys are gonna you guys are gonna love them I am amazed at what these teams did in 24 hours how much battery life we were running in right now we are sitting at around 45 minutes okay yeah we're cool we're running were running a store make sure yeah I don't have I don't have another I don't have an AC adapter for the camera so we can very limited by battery life right now yeah yeah so he said yeah yeah let's go ahead and do do you want to change over to our charger spots actually I've got a I've got a site for you to head to I want to do Squarespace first so guys Squarespace Oh don't provoke yeah alright whoo we are back thankfully are we still streaming we're still streaming okay Oh Squarespace the fast easy way to create your own beautiful website that works where we go yeah yeah no no I've got I've got a URL for sheekha frigging stressing me out here man it's forever fresh dot-com F Rai CH e that's 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literally half the size of the largest consumer grade full-size SSDs and we're talking an SD card it can add right at speeds of up to 90 megabytes per second and should be able to hold about four hours of 4k footage or 24 hours of 1080p footage depending on settings this is according to geek comm has an MSRP of $800 actually not that unreasonable I know but it's pretty nasty I know how many we have that die okay okay you know what though funny that you should mention that we've never had a Santa's die it's true we've never had a send this guy we've never had an a day to die so you know if I was and it's it's it's so funny because SD cards are one of those very simple devices where brand loyalty much like hard drives gets built just based on someone's personal experience and based on that we do have a fair bit of experience doing various very small and not statistically significant but that doesn't change the fact that when you when you go through enough eighty eight hour SanDisk SD cards and none of them die you kind of go okay well maybe we'll use some more that ah the Logitech G 910 I keep on getting missing so this was posted by X tank Slayer and basically Logitech is working on our well has announced an our GP mechanical gaming keyboard based on Romer G mechanical switches so it is it is funny to see the way the industry went from consolidating everyone just chipping clones of cherries and X switch keyboards to everyone trying to differentiate it again sudden so razors going to their their razor branded switches that are being manufactured in China Corsair is still this still playing the the Cherry MX trumpet pretty hardcore in fact they've started putting cherry branding right on their packaging that partnership is alive and well logitech who to my knowledge has only done one mechanical gaming keyboard you some ten-point g7 10 plus has gone and released what looks to be positioned as a higher-end product with Romer G switches now so no I know nothing I know absolutely nothing about memory switches obviously I haven't been able to really spend time trying to figure it out yeah because the most amount of information i've seen about this is in this dock right now yes so I've I've been a little busy with my k70 RGB which has a 130 plus page user manual by the way this this is like the not for noobs keyboard as far as I can tell so far although I made my way through about the first 40 pages on the flight here and most of it is pretty self-explanatory well there's that once once you get to it there's that like full light control panel thing that's gonna be complicated yeah so Logitech is gonna have their arcs control SDK that's going to allow you to control your peripherals from your phone screen dpi etc ok and show system information you're gonna have media controls for tablets or smartphones a logitech he is sending SOG 910 ok so I've already been in touch and we are we are gonna definitely try it out and really interested to learn more about the switches see I mean they're rating them for more clicks which for me you know going okay well ours is 70 million keystrokes versus your 50 million keystrokes it's all kind of especially with an academic especially like mechanical switches it's like yeah these don't really break yeah I mean I think cherry is braiding at 50 million is probably pretty crude yeah this sounds all right cool I think you just skipped over it with your cursor but belief on that posted by raphe on the forum original articles from the verge calm and BitTorrent is determined to get rid of the stigma and that's good because they don't deserve it no so so tell us about it tell us about believe I honestly know nothing about it this is the first time I've seen anything about it but the second I read any information about it so it's it's it's basically a chat client where it's practically impossible quote-unquote to gather metadata on who's talking and it will be available for Windows seven eight Mac Android iOS clients basically everything the second I read that which is basically all I really needed to know it's also in public alpha by the way I I'm pretty stoked and I might move a lot of things to this platform if it actually works really well because not a fan of Skype yeah hate it but it's the only thing that I can seem to be able to get everyone on at the same time and everyone has the same complaints about it which this might be able to solve right which would be great so I hope they have stuff like group chats which would be very important for stuff that I do and I don't know it would be really easy and really interesting to see maybe if they have I mean we've seen how quickly BitTorrent sync is moving oh my goodness yeah so BitTorrent sync is changing really fast so that's their that's their kind of I don't want to call it a Dropbox competitor because it's not but it has some similar functionality to cloud-based storage solutions like Dropbox except you control your own cloud and that's what that's what BitTorrent is all about maintaining your anonymity and your privacy and controlling your own data and you gotta respect that as a company mission statement apparently from Comcast you are illegal and shouldn't get off their service but thinking of illegal Pirate Bay founder told he can expect to carry his father's coffin while wearing handcuffs this is this is pretty gross there's only 50 days left on his sentence and his brother Matz has spoken out for for apparently the first time the original articles from TorrentFreak calm has spoken up for the first time in his brother's favor saying you know I've deliberately said very little partly because he can speak for himself but I feel like the the justice system has forgotten about its job to support prisoners to ensure that they don't return to prison and even though their father has been seriously ill for some time and was admitted to the hospital in the summer Peter has only been able to visit his father once and has been told he's allowed to attend his father's funeral but two guards will accompany him and he will have to wear handcuffs and his his brother basically is speaking out against this the IKE sorry give us one moment is speaking out against us saying well the problem with this is that it punishes not only him but also me and my mother and my dead father and everyone that's gonna be the few and everyone who's gonna be at the funeral that doesn't feel fair the optics on that are gonna be horrible yep Google seizes Nexus 5 production this was posted by top board gamer on the forum original article is from SlashGear this came from Canadian wireless carrier Wind Mobile's customer support via Twitter a customer asked why they don't list the Nexus 5 on their device page and Wynne said well because it's no longer being made and we don't have any stock Samsung to build its own mobile GPU this is posted on Fazil accom but if that'll be more more suing from Nvidia mmm interesting Samsung has managed to hire X Nvidia AMD and Intel employees nothing has been announced yet the development has apparently been going on for at least two years all right we're pretty much gonna have to know that any quick thing before we go actually because I know quite a few my friends are really excited about this is that twitch announces its Google Chrome cam yes posted by raphe on the forums the original source has blogged on twitch.tv this is exciting yeah so there's there's obviously no one else to say but it's sweet yeah so now you can you can you can watch the land show on your TV with your o guest yeah yeah next week cuz this one's basically over yeah um so I do want to want to pick up the camera there I think all right if we're being checked out because it's time for everyone to go to dinner and I'm here so everyone's just kind of somehow tired in general yeah sure so um you know what oh I don't have I don't have my lav mic unfortunately so you know what here's what I'm gonna do I'm just gonna oh I don't know if I can pop it you know what I'm just gonna carry this this is the ghettoest ghettoest setup ever but I'm gonna I'm gonna hold this like this and we want to show you guys we want to show you guys these mod it out rigs I think the most be careful not to press that middle button yeah all right I got no idea man oh the XLR cable well you don't need to get that far right if you hear it if you put the laptop on the table I think you should be you should be long enough to to reach the rigs here so you
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