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The WAN Show - We Have 4K Playstation Details! Who Cares?? - June 10, 2016

2016-06-11
funny story to start the show gonna be nipple related no it's not surprising right anyways when I came back from Taiwan I came to yvr the airport is near and the statue with nipples nope this at some point I'll try also in Richmond by the way Vancouver International Airport not in Vancouver yes it's in the Greater Vancouver area that's true so or a Greater Vancouver Regional District as it's actually called the GTA is the greater toronto area the GVR geez okay anyways the Wi-Fi network there does one of those things we have to like approve your login thing with through a portal and whatever and I was trying to do it it wasn't working and I needed it in at that point in time so is like whatever and turned my Wi-Fi off didn't really think about it a little while later using my phone and it's like oh your Wi-Fi your data has been turned off because you're at your maximum my warning didn't come through or I swiped it without realizing it because I hate it when notifications load while you're in your notification bar I might have swiped it without actually seeing it so my data is dead and I think I'm like six days into the month or something so that sucks I have a dumb phone for a while well your smart phone just a dumb music yeah so I guess yeah you did that's okay because I can work nipples into anything speak up people are asking us to turn the mic up but I just did a test recording and it was fine so I guess it was I guess I had the volume a little high actually I don't even know why that worked at all but I what I just did in terms of testing maybe I could load up the stream and see if people are messing with me in the meantime why don't you let them know what fantastic topics we have for them today so we have the the whole catastrophe around Team Viewer all the counts being hacked into or passwords being known or whatever because those aren't really the same thing but anyways we'll talk about that later docker has officially filed for bankruptcy and is saying some other stuff Sony officially confirms the 4k ready PlayStation but I believe it's not being announced at e3 or something and I don't actually know a fourth topic that's interesting you sound wonderful to me by the way do I yeah and that like 38% on my system volume so okay space mining space mining what I don't know I didn't see that alright that's a base mining we might not talk about that yeah we may not get to that yeah - not turning your Wi-Fi back on for a week or maybe not gross maybe it's like hot oh you're into that sort of thing lady bone spit yeah that's it that's probably not good all right apparently the intro is lab well you know what you guys there is only so much I know there's only so much I can do Jim's address says ow and also that it's pre-recorded I think no it's not pre-recorded all right so let's get into some topics first up we've got and I actually have no idea whether whether Luke said that this was going to be one of our one of our means this week Gawker is no more at least in its current form maybe someday it will reach its final form but that won't be its current form they filed for bankruptcy and have said that they will sell the company the headline says to Ziff Davis or someone else that I don't think it's necessarily Gawker saying they're gonna sell it as if Davis it's that as if Davis has an offer in on them for somewhere to the tune of ninety to a hundred million dollars you know maybe I should just buy Gawker what yeah I know you know for a fact that I don't that's not gonna work can't afford that and also just doesn't sound like a good idea again why would we do that if we could just like Lifehacker instead of tweet about this earlier I was like I don't really care well the rest of it but if life hacker survives that would be cool yeah you could just consume like just them I'd be down with that I mean theoretically some of the upstairs office space for that make them all comedians theoretically they could sell individual publications so so Gawker is life hacker Jezebel Deadspin gawker.com is moto Kotaku Jalopnik and Isabel and ya know you said dad's been actually but you said it twice which is important right for people who didn't hear you go first yeah um so out of all of those yeah I think Lifehacker I didn't used to mind Gizmodo but I remember the last time I went on that site I liked I think if that lines up nope how old were you in 2009 19 you were not well 18 for most of it 18 fits okay so I was close very close I was actually quite close okay so basically yeah they're filing for a chapter more accurate um actually yeah I think so that's right around there um so they're there they've announced their chapter 11 filing basically that puts them in protection from creditors for the time being while they sort of entertain offers to buy the company Gawker and Nick Denton have said that they will not pay Hulk Hogan and Peter Thiel the 140 million dollars they have told their employees that they still plan to fight the case and to operate the publishing business while they do so but Ziff Davis has come out and said there's let me just see if I can bring up the the article here so this was in an internal memo it does say for less than a hundred million dollars yeah like I'm assuming not a ton less there's conflicting reports so this particular one on RICO dotnet says for around 100 million but it should be noted that they may end up paying more because this is just their initial bid for it and actually nothing to do necessarily with how much it'll end up selling for so someone else could make a counteroffer yep yep it could end up being a bidding war over Jezebel yeah which I guess someone wants apparently I didn't know that these sites as a whole were still that big I had no idea online written media publications we're still worth like tens of millions of dollars each I mean I guess it's sort of enormous amounts of traffic this is a really good clip with Nick Denton basically saying nope I stand by the decision to publish that even in light of everything that has happened he's expressed a lot of frustration with Peter Thiel basically public basically funding this lawsuit as a way to I think I forget I was reading some article about it but the the quote from him was something to the effect don't quote me on this that's the quote of a quote that's not an accurate quote but sick so the so something to the effect of that it's not vengeance but it's more of like a cautionary sort of like it's more of a deterrent I think was something close to the word that was used against publishing articles that are basic that basically amount to bullying so that was that was sort of how he interpreted the Hulk Hogan article where this sort of this individual was being bullied by a publication published an article and indeed a sex tape video of him banging to use the term that the kids used these days I think a friend's wife you gotta throw that in at me yeah I guess that's still a thing if you're an old man well like how long is banging been around for a long time I'm sure my dad is like well-versed with that term the term or what are we talking I'm here so probably both it just being honest it's almost father's day you got nine days to figure it out to figure out if he's your father well-made what I could there could be a situation okay so Luke's parents aside and their whatever they don't still watch watch oh do they they probably do oh that's a shame my mom and dad um so it'll be a court supervised deduction and basically the the lawsuit one way or the other will have to be resolved before nick de odd before excuse me as if Davis is gonna have any interest in in taking taking possession of it and yeah that's basically how it went down would this make you think twice about publishing a sex tape online effectives why why would we publish a sex tape online I didn't say we yeah I said you said okay we should do this but we should do it with like like computer components oh man we should like make a fake Hulk Hogan no I want and have it water cool someone else's computer I want no part of any of this I just want we've got people asking for us to review a sexbot okay robots let's turn so let's talk let's talk seriously again for a minute would you do an objective review of a sex robot okay I mean we'd have to be careful what we show and be role and not in b-roll but would you would you benchmark it and host the video I think I think like the the journalistic side of me is like yeah and then there's like I'm in a relationship no so but what if the I think is happening if it's a robot probably is it like because I mean they're not that sophisticated at this point yeah I think basically they just do pre-programmed you are attempting to because this this ties into another conversation which is like is porn okay while you're in a relationship and this is like stuff you need to decide in your relationship yeah the other thing as a general statement I mean with you and your partner yes it's porn okay and then on top of that is VR porn okay because they're actually pretty different right yeah the airport is very much putting you in that scenario yeah with like like directional audio so you feel like you're there and like if the person is talking to you you can hear where it's coming from like all right like crazy stuff yeah just like on another level and then you're stepping up again you think so I think each one of those will reduce the amount of you don't think actually uh I would I would argue I would argue the other way so I think porn is where it is let's establish that porn is a baseline okay and you know your baseline could be it's like super okay and mine could be it's super not okay or the other way around whatever let's call two-dimensional porn the baseline and let's talk like who dimensionalize likes join the screen let's talk like straight guy on girl if you're a straight person like like like vanilla porn like sure not like animals or whatever because it wasn't really okay like I'm thinking like two two-dimensional like just kind of vanilla porn whatever fits in your preferences yeah like whatever would be vanilla for you everyone's vanilla can be a little different you know chocolate strawberry vanilla we're talking vanilla okay so that's our baseline okay I would make the argument that a robot is actually less akin to a real-life sexual experience then I see we are coming from with that but you also have problems where and certainly less than that employ assisted VR twice this would be ours way up there um with the robot though you are directly trying to replace the person in the actions that they do and it is possible to get somewhat emotionally attached to a robot mm-hmm so like you are actually attempting to replace the functionality of the partner yeah which is also why VR toy assisted would probably would that top the robot for you I don't know they're both like so these are both like no zone for you remember we're talking when you're in a relationship and remember your no zone can be sort of what you're comfortable with someone else engaging in while you're in a relationship yeah like it goes a two-way street yeah yeah so are both of those gray area at the very least - si si okay with a need like a discussion okay okay interesting ci how did we get here I don't know but I hi I I wholly disagree okay I think that the robe and then okay and I'm saying inanimate object I understand that not all of them are completely inanimate some of them like blink and stuff yeah but I would make the argument that an inanimate object is less like a real experience than an actor on a screen but it's not happening directly to you that's true nothing's happening to you I mean let's face it you're doing all the work in either scenario that might be true in relationships as well Wow shots by here that birthday no that's not true at all but I'm saying for some people that is a reality it's it's I'm sorry but like it is okay sure fair enough people are saying next topic is probably right yeah is next topic Sony officially confirms the 4k ready PlayStation excellent original article here is from confirms a ps4 console upgrade but it won't be at e3 which raises the question what will be at e3 people are asking me like it can be techs and stuff they're like you've done e3 before are you going this year I was like nope like oh why not well you know what's funny is we missed a year when III was like the yeah and then we were like okay we'll do it next year but the problem is that we're not in the console mindset like we don't even understand what qualifies as like a big III for console people because it's all just kind of III yeah so it's like yeah all the consoles are launching this year we don't go the next year all the consoles launched last year we go and it's like here's some game with games with some tessellation there's no problem is even if we did go the previous year it was probably just quino's wasn't it just keynotes like I'm pretty sure we just watched those in the office I remember like yeah you kids we were both scripting and half watching at the same time like we basically more or less went just virtually not to tie back to the previous conversation yeah I mean on that subject man I went to I think keynotes yeah two keynotes at Computex this year I went to one let's just not do them anymore yep they are the worst thing ever yep there is nothing that I can learn in a keynote that I can't learn and like my yeah the the most valuable thing I think we could do from a keynote and the the keynote that I went to was an in video one and what I did was I just periscope live stream to the whole thing which like mm-hmm I did that because I don't think it was being live streamed right the the stream that I did twitch stream of at the Nvidia event when I didn't have a table and was like crammed in these tiny freaking seats in the back trying to hold my camera up while supporting my laptop was horrible I don't even really know why people watched I tried to like I tried to even get reactions from like J and the other people that are sitting beside me and I turned the camera and the HDMI cable would disconnect because it wasn't a very stable connection but there's like live tweets but then we don't have to be there in order to do that right so this is actually this is actually sort of an ongoing an ongoing scandal so I don't know if some of you have seen it but SourceFed is claiming that Google manipulated search results in favor of Hillary Clinton's actually a very well-constructed video a very compelling sounding argument for for how big this has become I'm surprised it doesn't have way more views yeah it's actually only got about a quarter million views let's go ahead and pop that up on our screen here so they basically say okay look here's the popularity of certain search terms for example Hillary Clinton indictment and Hillary Clinton India you can see indictment is much more popular than India according to Google's own interest over time and they point out that when you actually enter Hillary Clinton IND into Google search it comes up with India India independent voters Indiana campaign absolutely nothing about indictment as a suggested search with the argument being made by SourceFed being that you should be suggesting search topics based on autocomplete based on what people are actually searching for that would start with those letters so this is this is very quickly turning in they also showed like I think was Yahoo and Bing typing the exact same thing in Yahoo and being reacted the exact same way that they would have expected yeah so indictment was the top suggested with that said I wouldn't use Bing search as an indication of what is relevant necessarily although they make again a good points very well constructed video actually I watched the whole thing start to finish I was like wow that was very cogent um anyway so they make the argument that if there's three people in a room and I think it went something along don't quote me on this again three people in a room and one of them says I'm in a room and to them say I'm on the rooms on fire you know you should probably go with the two people who are saying hey the rooms on fire and not the person that is what's relevant information I guess is the point um now the defense up on the verge already Google denies oh and there's there's like there's like a whole like Illuminati thing about how Larry Page funded or owns a company I think that's true yeah yeah yeah yeah I mean to be clear I'm not saying loominatee confirmed like you know mr. peanut on the american idea illuminati yes it's this like tech based company that Larry Page is funding yes hoping that is being contracted by Hillary's campaign something to the tune of hundred seven hundred and seventy seven thousand dollars in a quarter which sounds like a lot of money to normal people like you and me but this is important right now in the context of Larry Page that means nothing she probably keeps that amount of money in every pair of shoes in the event that he gets and he needs to you know grab some money for walking around out of somewhere that the robber wouldn't have gotten it from yeah and we're back Illuminati freaking confirmed you're waiting on that the whole time race Hillary Clinton showed up outside the door of our warehouse walked in with like armed guards behind her dressed in black and told us well not us told our computer yeah you blue screen right now where we are not walking out of this place it happened Josh was there okay so the last thing happened our computer blue screen I'm not really sure what the deal was with that something to do with attempted switch from DPC which is something to do with maybe a real tech wireless driver we don't have any real tech devices in this computer we don't have any of those that's that's for sure so let's get back into into what I was talking about the hell was I talking about before okay um so right ah medium/dark okay so the verge has the verge has a good follow-up that basically says google denies altering search suggestions for hillary clinton and points out that some of the examples that SourceFed sites for example hillary clinton CRI doesn't come up with crime in fact apply across the board google avoids auto completing the word crime or criminal so that they can avoid making disparaging comments about people who may not have actually committed a crime there may not be a criminal in fact they do so they've pointed this out this is who's this guy matt cutts is the currently on leave from his position as head of Google's webspam team Sayed so they do this for everyone else including people that have actually been charged and convicted very interesting he also points out that those looking for negative stories don't necessarily type Hillary's last name they actually mostly search apparently for I don't know Larry hi early know why he would know this if he's on leave might still well you might still know enough about the inner workings to come up with some examples that demonstrate the opposite okay the first part totally the the part where they're all looking for Hillary not Hillary Clinton is like well you can look for that though like you can search for relevance like you can search for yes they did people were searching for that so basically oh and so another thing they pointed out is that many results pop in when you type in Donald Trump racist but results also appear for Hillary Clinton racist um so there you go so basically the conclusion in The Verge article here is they're likely trying to walk the line between providing as much information as they can and not stepping into a sort of gray legal area by say suggesting that someone could be a criminal so here's a state spokespersons full statement on the matter Google autocomplete does not favor any candidate or cause claims to the contrary simply misunderstand how Donald Trump RAC yeah it comes with with Donald Trump racist if you type Hillary Clinton are a see it comes with Rachel race issue Rachel Maddow race 2016 that's interesting I wonder if that is a regional thing as well yeah Donald Trump RAC racist SNL racist commercial racist articles racist rally it's all racist I don't know that racism is necessarily a hot-button topic for Hillary I doubt it I'm just saying that was said in there yeah that's very interesting seem true so here hold on we should we should probably do the demo live if we're going to if we're gonna talk about this I don't even necessarily know it because like so there you have it so racist costume is my Sikh fifth fifth suggestion all right mine only goes down to four like I'm actually on Google's website to you're doing the browser suggestions okay so there you go oh okay so no no yeah so that's a browser thing yeah cuz I'm in Firefox here in Chrome oh yeah okay there you go so age email young news news Twitter wife Donald Glover a little bit news Twitter wife Net Worth so there's nothing particularly incriminating there but it looks like as you continue to dig in and find examples you can find stuff that appears to be a bit of an issue so there is an article over on medium.com that appears to have been done without help from Google so here we go search trends are significant factor in how autocomplete works is the entire basis for sourcefed's claim and yet according to their logic Google must be favoring Donald Trump as well because they've got Donald Trump are a completely leaves out the quite common search term Donald Trump rape which was the whole alleged thing with Ivana Trump where she eventually took back the statement but she claimed that he raped her so I guess I didn't follow that yeah so Donald Trump la okay so we've got Donald Trump lawsuits and Donald Trump laughing what is it come with ladies ladies latest last night laughing so at this point you're probably thinking this is a great point at this point you're probably thinking to yourself whoa you're just choosing random words and searching them and he's like yeah that's right I'm doing exactly totally makes sense yeah which does make sense so I can definitely see how SourceFed came to the conclusion they did because you right there sitting there we're like well hold on a second what about this this conflicts with that remembering that we're in a different region and I know that Google does specifically target suggestions region by region so outside of America you might get very very different types of suggestions to do with any of the presidential candidates versus someone who's actually in the u.s. so do I believe that Google is one hundred percent ethical no do I believe that they would be stupid and I'll be a targeted thing to do something that's blatant right no I I think this would be really dumb I also have a really hard time believing that Hillary Clinton is necessarily the candidate that like Google as a whole would have decided is like ideal so seems better than Trump I guess that's such a yeah that's a can of worms actually this is interesting I had sort of changing topics I had dinner at Computex with like a self-professed like diehard Trump supporter and basically the conversation went something along the lines of were like where's the tech talk this is tech by the way just saying the Google yeah the Google stuff and what I'm telling you about right now was a conversation I had at Computex tech is right in there so basically he he like it's just out of absolutely nowhere we were talking about something to do with AMD's strategy for fire pro cards and distribution channels or something like italy tech conversation and then he goes something something something you know my boy donald something something something and and then he's like well and we were like okay so you're a trump supporter like as if it was not obvious at that point and he goes yeah you know blah blah blah blah blah of course I am and why what are you Canadian he's like oh you're socialists then like you know what a not necessarily yeah for one thing and be who cares because at a business dinner the last thing that I'm gonna be talking about is socialism for Donald Trump that is like completely inappropriate so so yeah but hey he's not afraid to speak his mind just like his boy Donald um however inappropriate or appropriate it might be weren't we supposed to be talking about the 4k ready PlayStation I think he's saved no I think we stopped I think we were done no no we never made it past the headline we talked about e3 and go because because I saw this over here and I realized it wasn't on the dog yeah we never got I'm going through what we did talk about we talk yeah we talked about going to e3 and why we don't anymore yeah so we said it won't be at e3 which is in the headline yeah and then we're like we won't be at e3 hi there yeah okay so let's talk about the PlayStation 4 console upgrade to be clear and there doesn't seem to be any indication that this is an upgrade in the sense that you can upgrade your existing console it looks like there will be an upgrade EDD PlayStation 4 that will include a faster processor 4k resolutions were all on there I got such a kick out of the endless endless PlayStation fan boys back at the time of launch that were like yeah 4k supports coming actually it's not actually it isn't because oh because actually the HDMI port on the PlayStation not gonna output it so pay for so there's that um yeah so technically we're sport is coming to place yes if you buy a completely new device that's not yours I'll offer 4k resolution support and improved graphics presumably it will also have support for PlayStation VR although I don't know if PlayStation VR is going to be supported on the existing PlayStation 4 do you know that no I don't know this mmm that has been an interesting I don't know if that's a known thing yeah I actually I actually don't know so $500 has been a display the blah blah blah blah blah blah upcoming virtual reality headset for the ps4 console but what's interesting is that the only confirmation that we have is that there will be an upgraded ps4 they're not actually calling it something else yeah so if they said psvr is for the PlayStation 4 I mean if this is like a man because there has been some confusing stuff that's gone on in console generations before you know mini versions and you know cooler running versions and the Halo versions and all kinds of different different stuff that actually in some cases can have very different hardware and software limitations I mean early PlayStation 3 he's had backwards compatibility with hardware it's all Linux on them they're actually still really cool and then that completely got kicked those things are worth money on eBay they are because you can make them computers like there's a like a military data center or server or something that's PlayStation 3 I think it's like defunct now I'm sure but okay it was a thing wasn't there I mean um might have just been experimental that's also variables anyway the console will be priced higher than the current three hundred and fifty dollars for the existing ps4 and it will be better so there you go and speaking of things that will be better all of our talking points for Squarespace yeah so we are no longer allowed to say you should or build it beautiful so we need a moment of silence yep Squarespace offers 24/7 support via live chat and email they feature responsive design on all of their website templates which means their website will look great on any device they've got commerce free online store that is available with every website whether you want to sell like you know Etsy type crafts or you know fish or whatever the case may be not actually gonna say anything I'm just trying to keep it the same you know what we could probably make 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have seen some of these things already so those things are made by primo chill actually yeah so these are a little like you can change the look of the front of your case and the power supply basement area to this like crazy blue thing if that's not your style there's a bunch of other stuff you can do you can get official stuff from Coolermaster - which includes like the this crazy handle on the top of the case this actually ties in really well to the thing I was criticizing about a Seuss's concept PC that they had at the show that that one that all assembles with hard PCBs and the problem is that they were like oh yeah we'll have like modular upgrades for rear i/o so that an older motherboard could have like USB type-c and you would just have this module that you slot in and I was like well by the time the distributor and the retailer and the shipper remember you have to get it to a distributor then to a retailer then to the customer I'll take their cut these things are gonna be inordinately expensive you might as well just buy any motherboard I need a controller for that - um the controller is actually in the like upgrade module yeah so so okay so the product manager for the claims it wasn't but I was like yes sure um so Coolermaster by stocking because that's been a big problem for cases - I bought a windowed side panel for an antic p160 so that was 12 years ago anyway so I did that it took like five weeks to special order because there was like one in the entire country and that's the way it was then and that's the way it is today when it comes to accessories for computer cases because you just can't stock enough of them in all the right distribution areas in order to have timely fulfillment of those orders be possible and that was a windowed side panel I mean relatively common thing we're not talking like like a freaking you know like slashed like front panel thing so I actually see cooling masters Coolermaster store as an interesting solution to that problem because clear mastery themselves handling this doesn't have to stock a ton of them yeah they can just say okay step 5 does it is they buy the things from the makers and then resell them do which is pretty cool so you know that like whoo and master is tracking their stock and like all this other kind of stuff which actually makes sense so I think it's pretty cool so the other thing we're supposed to mention I guess is the the master case maker 5 so make it what you will I know Luke you especially had a lot of skeptics in your brain and in your heart and probably in your pants about cooler masters hole maker branding and there are still some products we're still doing a cooler master sponsor spot but I'm not afraid to criticize them during a sponsor spot there are still some cooler master products that I look at the maker branding and I just go what exactly is maker about this but I've got to give them the vision for the case at CES they announced that they were gonna have this store here we are six months later they have products in it so they are working on it they are trying to make it actually like maker in some way yes I don't understand how like beautiful honestly looking power supply happens to be maker but I do appreciate that they did follow up on the store thing I like it probably would have helped if I said in the original video but the first time I covered their free for modular system stuff yeah was last combi Jack's not the most recent one and I gave them like a year or whatever and I talked to you about it not that long ago yeah like where is that where is that store thing because it's not here yet and then it showed up like three weeks or a month before I meet X or something I was like okay alright you made it not by much but you made it but we'll give you that one Coolermaster you made it get it they maker it beautiful alright let's talk about beautiful community interaction the original article here is from Engadget riot used League of Legends chat logs to spot bad staff apparently looking closely at what employees say online it's a good thing I don't do that or IDI probably wouldn't have a job anymore haha so Riot Games looked at employees chat logs and found a correlation between their behavior in and out of game they worked with Google's work staff analytics team and picked through the last twelve months of each staffers League of Legends gameplay records and chat logs they found that a quarter of the people they had fired in the last year so they had fired prior to knowing had shown unusually high levels of toxic behavior in game armed with this information riot used it to proactively address the problem with remaining staff so they singled out 30 employees all of whom were actually fairly new to the company and gave them two options those who got a stern warning and those who should be let go and then during the meetings many employees expressed regret at how they behaved in-game they received essays from employees vowing to change their ways and the report ended with riots intention to request League of Legends user names from all future hires for similar analysis so yeah like social media investigation by potential and current employers just got real very very real like I wouldn't be and you know what it's it's funny because if you'd asked me yesterday what is social media I would have said on Twitter Facebook YouTube and a lot of people don't even think of YouTube I only think of it because YouTube is my primary social platform okay a lot of people watch a video I mean what percentage leave a comment under the video it feels more like a TV viewing thing yes instead of a intercommunication thing like yes but it absolutely is a social media platform I would not have said the game I played last Saturday night so let's get a strawpoll going on here like oh straw poll is what riot did okay and I'm not putting in turnip because I've this is like the requesting kind of a big deal here's your names seems a little weird for future employees okay so before we before we get into the answer to that question um let me say this when I applied at NCIX I actually went out of my way to include my form username yeah thank you my posting history on their site I'm not gonna say who but certain people on like the forum and certain people that I know through twitch and stuff yeah I've included their handles for the line of SEC tips for them for certain jobs that they have gotten and that has been part of it so I race from other jobs yeah I actually do totally does one of them have the initial CC fairly prominent member real initials oh okay I'm just I'm oddly curious yeah yeah no problem telling you okay um and like it's worked and it's helped them and I understand the voluntary giving of those things yeah and like having right be like it's a good thing if you give us your username is probably I just I think it's because they aren't there certain legal requirements you can spin it both I sincerely doubt a gamer handle is even covered but I could see Riley spinning it both ways because they could spin it to every candidate this way if you give us your League of Legends username it enables us to help you the good candidate get a job mm-hmm but the implication the implied backside of that story is that it helps weed out potential jackasses during the interview process so so some questions that you can't ask is what is your religious affiliation are you pregnant what is your political affiliation what is your race color or ethnicity although if you're in an interview anyways sometimes it's not obvious sure most people think my wife is I think I get a lot of people saying she might be Filipina which is not sure um that's a good point how old are you are you disabled are you married do you have children or plan to are you in debt do you some drink or smoke socially socially I guess so in social so in that sense if riot asks for your username they they could very indirectly get the answer to like everything there they could get the answers to pretty much all of that especially because that probably includes whispers what if it doesn't know let's say it doesn't let's assume let's assume let's let's give the benefit of the doubt let's say it doesn't include whispers right okay so let's say it only includes public chat but by the time you post that information on a public server have you yeah have you have you put on your forehead employ know because there's also implied anonymity mm-hmm through your username you're not playing eyes - Sebastian right you're playing as whatever I do because I give up but sure yeah but like okay you know what I mean yeah I don't actually use my but yeah like I don't know okay so let's let's hear from the viewers this is splint pretty much right down the middle yes all right we've got 53% of you saying it's okay riot has the right to know what you and you know it might be in there EULA somewhere riot has the right to know before you work for them that's our neighbor what you posted on there privately owned servers which is an interesting point riot probably has terms in there EULA that entitle them to ownership of everything that gets posted in much the same way that Linus tech tips mom owns anything you post on it sure do the end-user license doesn't have to do with you forfeiting the information of you using it right but you knowingly and willingly posted that with maybe you figured you were anonymous but you weren't according to the end-user license agreement you willingly and knowingly posted that publicly yeah yeah but so it's still it's still not forfeiting a username because you could falsify your personal data that's true signing up but if the EULA says you're not allowed to do that you let's also don't hold up like ever that's true they don't but if Riots company policy is that all employees subject to termination if they fail to comply need to follow the EULA but can you can you go around let's say if there was I'm going into three articles here yeah if that list of stuff that I just said included gamertag for whatever reason would circumventing that by saying that they have to follow the u that is that legal I guess John and I don't think it comes down to legality or not legality because ultimately you can you can control what an employee posts on your privately owned servers as a company yeah it's not about control though this is reading the last 12 months right so going back yeah I'm looking at it well ultimate because there could be a code of conduct within the company where you I'll have to act this certain way yeah like Costco has a code of ethics yeah they have like an entire handbook it's like this thick it's like here's you know here's the value up to which you can accept a dinner from someone here's this that that that that and that you know you know what's funny is I have actually kind of talked myself into it you're also an employer no but even outside of that because while I cuz we've talked about this before yeah and I don't remember what stance I took but you know whatever you have to give some insight we have but did you have changed opinions but but added information to what we thought about a person that was going through an interview process with us by looking at their social media yes Oh long time ago you were in on that did I bless who is their Twitter yeah okay okay this is a long time ago did they gather III think the Twitter account was was given to us okay so it was given to us yeah okay but we clearly have no problem looking at social media for things now with that said I personally don't really like this the reason why I don't really like this is because of the implied anonymity of your username if you post something on Twitter or to a public Facebook account that is very searchable and is directly attached to your name I think of course that's searchable you by your employer I don't think you have to forfeit those accounts but they're under your name and are searchable so whatever so I don't like the idea of creeping something that wasn't provided yeah especially if it's a third party so if riot was saying you have to provide your Facebook username because I've heard of employers demanding this you have to you have to you know what's your Facebook yeah and we intend to look at it like if they demanded that that's one thing and that to me is actually very different from demanding to know what potential employees or current employees because they only did this for current employees and then the potential employees is moving forward now so they did this for critters ways yeah what your current employees are posting on a server you oh yeah I was just gonna say that's also a different thing because it's their platform and I could definitely see this might change my opinion a little bit because it's their platform that's like how they are treading on your turf yeah it's how they are representing your brand I was applying this to like any gamertag rank so like if you played wow and legal engines they would want to have both of them yeah but that's maybe I don't know I know because they wouldn't have the ability to do that anyway right so but I think that would be more wrong anyway yeah I think so too I think what an employer having on your turf wanting to know your stuff for your own servers I actually totally see that the if someone wanted to apply to work here and we're on the forum I would want to know their account was yeah I would want to see how they conducted me yes in the forum I wouldn't ask for their other accounts so I actually I guess I do agree with it I just don't agree with it as a gamertag in general a gamertag in general feels like it should just be this is my escapism land yeah that's what I was trying to defend it's your anonymous area you should just you role play role playing is a thing how I behave as a gamertag shouldn't necessarily be the be-all and end-all of someone how how how someone interprets Who I am and what I am as a person but I also see where riots coming from which is if you're role-playing an asshole to the community of our paying customers who you're trying to apply for and will be representing in some way or another yeah viewers ultimately serving at you're like freakin beige right is gonna want someone who like compared to a negative person they would want someone who's trying to make the community better yeah because that's the exact same kind of deal as the person in the interview who is actively trying to find ways and offer up ways that they could improve the company and who have pre thought about these things like like the standard thing like if you're applying for a social media position be like oh I have these ideas for improving your social media situation because I've already looked at what you're doing and analyze what you're doing and thought about it and try these practices and whatnot that's a very good thing to bring to that interview bring to that interview that you obviously didn't care and are contributing to a toxic environment is not in twitchplayspokemon says someone was role-playing at me real hard in an overwatch match I played last night we're not saying that role-playing an asshole is okay we're just saying that I think we specifically didn't yeah it might not necessarily be who you are the person yeah okay Team Viewer confirms number of abuse user accounts is significant oh so original article here is from bleeping a computer calm they apologized but they still say they were not compromised which is something that has yet to be actually proven even though redditors and some blogs out there have offered up some evidence that looks fairly compelling to suggest that they were indeed compromised so what well they were definitely compromised the whether or not Team Viewer was compromised like their records that's their compromised yeah but TeamViewer accounts were definitely come we're definitely compromised so the suggested course of action it right now is to protect your accounts with secure passwords that are frequently changed have reliable anti-malware and security solutions in place at all times and enable two-factor authentication that's what TeamViewer is suggesting there's other stuff that you can do the way that I was once compromised well not not me personally I've never been compromised not compromising the way the Linus tech tips channel was compromised was through a keylogger where I did not have to factor authentication enabled because remember it was available yet I doubt it was back then it was a long time ago anyway so through a keylogger so one of the other ways that you can avoid getting your password sniped by a keylogger is by having something like a password keeper like LastPass something that people are questioning is they're saying I had a 2-step enable then they still got in we don't have any confirmations of these things but hearing that is bad one one thing that I'm gonna say is not to bring this up again but quite a while ago we had a breach on the last tech tips forum which super mega sucked and even if that wasn't our fault you still have to kind of be a little more proactive you should probably considering this as an exploit that's going against your software sure their breach isn't your fault but it's still an exploit that is widely significantly going against your software you should probably inform your use yep that this could be a problem ingest passwords actively through into email suggest to step they have my email address one thing they can't be just like busted our email reputation by making sure that we hammered emails out as fast as we could to all of our users to let you actually hurt us in the longer term no one from hot no man at Microsoft domain got an email from us for months for a very long time including password reset emails yeah which was a nightmare thanks Microsoft we were just trying to help people and then they ignored us for months with trying to get anyway so pretty much the way the attack works is people are breaking into your TeamViewer into your computer with TeamViewer and then they are using presumably saved passwords on your computer please don't do that for example if you have a password keeper I don't understand why this isn't a default option but actually while you're in your next security audit can you run around and make sure everyone has it set to timeout after a very short period of time make sure your password keeper times out like for the love of everything that is valuable to you time out your password keeper through the whole point so what they're doing is they're going into whether it's you're using Chrome to save your passwords which by the way is really stupid or Firefox save your passwords which by the way is even super stupider because it seems it's in plain text in a file in like data roaming local whatever it is what was I yeah so then they're using your safe passwords to drain your bank account and your paypal which there's not a whole lot that anyone can do about once it's done if the action was effectively done by you um right we've got a lot of topics left some of which I like really did want to talk about real quick here where'd it go to do to to to to to to to to what where did it go you know I had something I really wanted to do like what I didn't - the TeamViewer one I had like a segue and everything and it's completely not in my mind anymore this no no it was cool this no that's cool too but not not as cool um oh well oh this no yeah no I know I was like something else like it might not have actually oh this is a doc oh yeah wait no no this oh this apparently got rejected I don't know I don't know why why did that get rejected um I don't know I actually don't know blah blah blah um oh okay well I don't know why it was rejected so I'm not gonna go too far into it but twitch troll donates $50,000 to streamers PayPal allegedly refuses to refund maybe we don't actually have confirmation on whether PayPal is refunding it or not uh yeah okay Nick Nick is Nick is filling it in for me conflicting reports okay so I was gonna try and tie that in well I think that pretty much wraps it up for the land show I do want to do a call out for aired sports guys if you haven't already check it out over on vessel they offer a seven day free trial they offer a seven day free trial where you can see - tech tips tech quickie and channel super fun content seven days ahead of time as well as a bunch of other creators and it should also be noted that nerd sports all five episodes of which are up there and for whatever reason not particularly searchable there it is all five of which are watchable curling ice hockey dodgeball lacrosse and volleyball where we the keyboard warriors take on real athletes in the sports of their choosing curly one was funny you guys suck you almost got it those are my inputs thank you you almost got there I almost thought the other guys really didn't help you doing they really let me down that is not how you try to be the lead of a team they really let me down in a big way so thank you very much guys we will see you again next week same bat-time same bat-channel
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