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why does it take so long these days not even live yet there we go takes forever we should probably restart this computer sometime this month or century or I don't know but sometime around there welcome to the LAN show everyone Linus is not here this week as you guys know because he's away on a vacation where he's cleaning his house the whole week so that's super exciting we have some really interesting news Google's stadia we will probably talk about that 400 hi I'm gonna go the opposite and be super up right now Google stadia the future of gaming yeah with that yeah let's talk about what else we've got Samsung Galaxy fold creases yes kind of brutal increasingly obvious game Sora such a big deal that steam is redesigning their interface to not look like dinosaur bones Wow Wow look the same since I was born so roll the intro yeah my legs caught me oh I clenched hard enough and it feels good to do a a nacho a nosh it's been one ages savage turkey suffix tricky and methylene and okay how many sponsors so what there we go ha yeah that one does this work someone screwed with the scenes a little bit that does work though yeah I haven't been on the LAN show since like when you were working at your house more than here yeah that's because you were you wouldn't be in oh wait no I don't know I still do it on Fridays well it's been a while so a flow plane starts at like 8:00 a.m. which is insane for me but I'm trying to make it work so then Jaden the only guy who's currently local like starting 8 a.m. because then he's done work relatively early is that good to me so on Fridays when I have to do when show I usually want to start a little later because I'm after you when show anyways so then he just stays at home so I just stayed home but then I still have to start early because we have weekly meetings on Fridays and people are in different time zones yeah so whatever it works out it's fine but anyways should we just jump right into stadia yeah because I think this might like take a bit there's elements to this there's yeah I'd be heard of Google stadia guys it was announced this week at the Game Developers Conference it's uh it's a streaming it's a game streaming platform by Google it doesn't suck as much as the ones of the past give it a chance hear us out you might actually be awesome although I have heard I don't know enough about this ok and I think you're gonna be notably more informed than I am I hope not but but I have heard that there's huge input like compared to traditional gaming not compared to other cloud services but yeah a traditional game well I read them the hands-on experience that they had a digital foundry they played with a beta one a few months ago and they played with the new one this week and they said well they give you some numbers actually its source 3 in the document because the table halfway down and it looks like it's comparable to console gaming ok yeah and they were playing what there playing was an assassin's Creed game and they were playing at 1080p 30 frames a second so had it been 60 frames a second 60 FPS then it could have actually had lower latency than when you're playing on the Xbox hmm but there's a bunch of little caveats in the article you know like they're using a Wi-Fi connection that's probably bonkers they can't account for the are using a Wi-Fi connection it was they didn't have control over where they got to play it oh okay okay yeah there was that Google own thing I think so it looks like latency including display lag for Google stadia well Google stadia latency seems to be 166 regardless Google stadia on 15 megabit per second seems to be 188 milliseconds regardless that's supposed to be like a worst case scenario one I think according to Google I did say there's asterisks on the latency not including display lag for both of googles the first asterisk says the stadia tests were carried out at a Google connection on a Google connection versus our stream tests in the wild on a 200 megabit per second connection however the stadia tests included display latency on a pixel book which we cannot measure and we're carried out via Wi-Fi networking that's really weird setup but I guess it's part of their point of like you can do it anywhere on any device yeah but it's just hard cuz they only have one data point right now there yeah I only got to play one game in this one set up well I guess they have two data points they got to play a earlier version of the game before but it wasn't on like the final kind of ecosystem of like hardware stack so he's saying this testing was done by digital foundries yeah okay yeah cuz it's on Eurogamer so I just wasn't sure but digital foundries if they only have one data point they're not going to be happy with that so I'm sure we'll see more coverage from them eventually it does look as one would probably suspect the input lag on PC especially above 30fps is is much lower but there's a lot this is how it's gonna start off exactly it's like I'll get better it's a disruptive technology in that in the formal sense in like the actual definition of the world we're gamers today are like what's possible with good gaming hardware is way over serving what's necessary for a lot of gamers and all stadia needs to do is compete with that point it only needs to be good enough for a lot of people it doesn't have to be better than the top at the top and eventually once people start using and the technology matures it it'll edge closer and closer until it's just there's just no reason no practical reason to to game the way that we game today one really interesting thing to me is Google stay Diaz with display lag and without display like is the same as Xbox one X with display lag included which is like you have to include display like so whatever but that's gonna depend on what display and it looks like that display had a notable amount of like but still you're getting extremely close if not tied to next box 1x you know what they said in their in their articles that the the person reviewing it was very familiar with the Xbox version of this Assassin's Creed title and they didn't have any like based on muscle memory feeling of like oh this sucks yeah it seemed really similar for them so what did you read where the latency was awful while I read 166 I I'm a snob games at high fresh rates and yeah ok to me on PC with a ridiculous computer and a ridiculous monitor I'm like that is far too slow for me right but looking at these numbers especially if you're coming from console that actually sounds pretty damn good mm-hmm there's so many aspects of this that are so different and cool that I'm I'm excited about I think it's pretty wild because I I have always hated the idea of like powerful GPUs and laptops I've basically always hated that as like something that I would purchase on my own why because you think it's just like totally negates the whole reason to have a laptop pretty much just like wow why not just carry around this 25 pound freaking brick with a goo external power supplies it's a million pounds they're usually way too thick they get wicked hot they're just kind of written aloud and then the external docks came out and I was like that's a really cool solution I like that but it's a little clunky and it never well it's not really portable then yeah I'm talking about a GPU enclosure yeah that's good for I don't know it's good for having a desktop where you come in hey now I'm at home nice we should at least like reduce some devices and still have a gaming machine and like whatever else there's like kind of a cool option but it didn't solve all the problems and they're really expensive they're really expensive it doesn't solve the portability problem there's still some other issues with this you could game on your phone you have a pixel book like they said Android devices a kid it enables a lot of different options which is super cool I'm still I I have like my own opinion problem things with this from a technical standpoint I think it's freaking fantastic super cool I'm really interested II where it goes from that aspect I don't even like the idea of purely digital games with our current set up oh man there's so many angles to cover here so like the idea of removing that much more from you is a looming for like an ownership perspective yeah because like I've always hated the idea of like origin has a thing now I don't remember what it's called but you pay for like a year at a time and you get access to basically all games on Origin all of these games until you don't read up so you don't read out here in the top and you lose all of them and that just seems completely insane to me I don't know it's like subscribing versus buying it's renting really you're leasing internet access yeah you think this is a generational opinion well you think kids who grow up in this subscription model world or they don't care and you've got like an old school thing I think they might be more used to it because we're gonna get real deep right here real quick but tell me about your mother [Laughter] no I our generation and below is having an extremely hard time owning anything mm-hmm whether there's things in place stopping us time or real estate now over real estate cars almost anything it has become way more difficult for our generation to own things and things have come in to help us deal with not owning things yeah and if you just have to pay for a subscription that one time per year it's probably be a lot easier - it's really interesting how all these different dimensions converge you've got you've got the economic realities of yeah being a millennial or Gen Z yeah you've got the new business models that totally enable ya you've about the consumer culture the sense of entitlement the the convenience culture of wine things right now and they all kind of just work together to make this perfect storm of what we've what where we're headed that's it gets way freakin deeper yeah but that's but that's it's like it's not just Google stadia that's the problem is like now we're talking about like the human condition of now of gaming stream like there's a really cool that enables you to do stuff like I love the idea that I could play save on my phone and yeah and that's wicked and you can play Civ on a switch but it's not the full game something able to place it on my phone it's pretty sick it might in this might legitimately enable a wider range of design on how many games is that's gonna be up to the developers to decide how or you know allow you to play it all these difference yeah so there could is it true that there could be a game on stadia where I can only play this on my laptop or TV I can't pick this up on my phone or is it gonna be a requirement that they have to be on all of them I have no clue personally I wouldn't be surprised if developers were able to restrict you to some degree because they don't want people to have a worldly negative experiences yeah because you try to play like a highly complicated game that requires a huge amount of variable inputs and like can't be done on console because you need a keyboard and why would a want late on your phone why would Google wanna bake mmm yeah your game doesn't fit our mold so you can't be on our store they want to build up their library especially since isn't it like um a Linux kernel like games have to be kind of built or supported especially to it right yeah but I'm sure people are gonna want to be on Google stadia and will make their things work what do you think about the the fact that it's 10.7 teraflops or something like that it's I guess they're their hardware stack which is powered by AMD is as powerful as a ps4 pro and an xbox 1x combined does that mean much and it when you're game streaming well yeah because you're not gonna want it does mean a lot because even on consoles right now you have dips which like why can't remember the name of them right now they're the people who ran the tests for this digital foundry digital foundry has done tons of different tests on like graphical dips in different console games and PC games and whatever just hitching when a new region there's actually super interesting digital foundry channels fantastic you should check them out on YouTube we've been saying them a lot so you might as well give him a shout out I didn't know that a YouTube channel yeah I only heard their print stuff this dude he hosts it yeah let's see one second so because I would think that the bottleneck really is going to be your internet connection because it you know it's capable of 4k 60 but then if you only have I think 25 megabits a second then you're gonna be down to 1080 probably and if you only have like 15 megabits a second then you're getting a scale down further to 720 I like 30fps there you go digital foundry YouTube channel oh yeah they do some really cheap unsurprising google stadia specs plus analysis specs analysis and exclusive performance testing I haven't watch this yet I should I will sounds good yeah that'll be cool but yeah they do they do tons of really cool stuff different dives into performance of different consoles different games etc etc but I thought that's a cool name digital foundry yeah it's pretty cool I like it yeah but they they I think it's gonna be important so that people can't criticize it as much well it's it's a new very different emergent technology type of thing so a lot of people that are gonna come out of the woodwork like me and try it and try to look for any possible thing that they can go after to tear it down because it sounds fantabuloso we're trying to find any negative thing about it so if they can just crush the performance and make it so you're getting whatever frames they decide you're getting for that game at this latency all the time and it's going to be good all the time and even crazy things happening the game isn't going to worsen your experience I think the communication around it will be really good I don't in some ways the optics and the negativity around it from existing gamers doesn't matter a whole lot because again it's generational where there's probably I don't know the numbers but I would guess that there's probably more people watching games than playing games there's probably more people watching twitch streams around the world than gaming in general and I would think that this technology is gonna have so it's gonna create a whole new wave of gamers gamer gaming will be bigger than ever if you are like I could I could imagine walking into my living room if I have Google stadia and my wife's playing video games it's like it's just so much more accessible and I don't need all this hardware it'll be so much cheaper well ok here's here's another weird angle at it talking about different generations and stuff like that if we move out of North America yeah the emerging markets there's the whole crew deep iversity serious things India is coming online and incredibly faster rate than before if the devices that they have are a phone or a fairly low-end computer or something like that because they're just coming online for like the first time this if they can afford it and maybe a little different pricing region or something I don't know it's probably a way easier way to get into gaming for sure buying a gaming rig or buying a console and for at least simplicity you don't have to buy all that stuff you don't have to know about what you need to buy especially in PC no one knows what what do I need to buy how much do I need to spend to play this game consoles make that a lot easier but it's still an upfront investment which is reason number 2 you need to have five hundred dollars at a time with this you could I don't they haven't done any pricing announcements at all but I assume it's gonna be something similar to either like a Netflix model where you're just a subscription or they could do it like they do with the google movies where you know I'm gonna pay $7 this month we're gonna pay $7 to rent this game for two days or something and just with that little amount of money you can play and you don't even need to use their controller and then the next reason there's another one it will come back to me mm-hm get an older here while you're thinking about that I do think some people are an inch out of bringing this up saying more people play this game at one time than are all of on twitch I think I think he's saying there are more people that have watched games basically there's just a whole ton of people that watch games and don't necessarily game it's not an insignificant amount of people and there's a lot of people even that I know that watches significant amount of games and play a small amount of games that doesn't mean there isn't a huge base of people that has played games all the time even forgetting that comparison what I'm saying is I think that there are a lot more people in the world who could be gaming that are yeah and this will get the minute oh yeah the next reason was accessibility they have integrated this with YouTube so when you're playing you whenever you're playing a stream that's 4k 60 gets created you can hit this button on the dedicated controller if you happen to use it but you don't have to that yeah you can use any current controller keyboard mouse whatever setup you want unless you're playing on the chromecast in which case you need to have their controller okay anyway it's got a capture button on us you can start a stream you can start streaming and when you when you're on YouTube and you're watching someone's stream there would be or even if you're just watching a trailer for a game on YouTube though it's going to be a button that says play you can tap that button on your Android device or whatever and apparently within as little as 5 seconds you could be playing the game damn that is crazy if you're just on your computer you're on your MacBook you've never played a game in your life and you're like hey what's this button do and then suddenly you're just gaming on a Mac that's crazy you're watching this trailer you're like this looks amazing you press play and you're like it looks like junk log in synapse crap but it's it's a pretty cool premise another thing you can do is just what's the actual name of this feature they've got crowd share I think yeah it's something like god they have something where you can crowd play so you can be watching a creator or a gamer streaming and you can actually say oh I want to join their game and join and join the queue if there's a queue or if you're watching a nobody you can just jump in and game with them that move hey I'm one of those nobody do you stream no okay but I have a youtube channel that has no anything's okay on my first dream if anyone happens to watch goes on and play with James they can write that's so cool nice they have another thing called us I would have been streaming for a while would not want that feature they have all sorts of tools up here people probably turn out yeah we have another thing called state share which is yeah you can just save your state in the game like I'm right here with with these items you can send a link and so someone just click that link and then the game loads up and they're like right where you are and you try to beat my time or can you beat this can you pass this this puzzle and that's super cool that is actually pretty cool a lot of people are bringing up as well that like Oh Internet's can be a big problem I think in a lot of areas it will be in a lot of areas of wampie the internet it's a big problem thing I would assume is going to mostly come from people who reside in the United States of America because we all have horrible internet I've had a better time getting internet in Canada which is that's crazy bigger this is crazy talk and has way less people than a lot of people that I know in the States really it's wild there are places in the scenario that's fantastic yeah yeah yeah there's amazing places in the States for Internet there's also tons and tons and tons of terrible places in the States Australia is horrible there are places that are really bad but there are also places that are absolutely fantastic hopefully things like data caps will eventually disappear because they're just exploitive as far as I can tell that's pretty much it and hopefully internet connections in general will get better if you want to look at how ridiculous internet is in the States I don't remember all the details I don't know what it's called but at one point in time the US government gave a whole whack ton of money to ISPs to set up a fiber backbone and then they just didn't pretty wonderful kind of funny how that worked out but yeah this it's in some places it's great in some places is terrible stadia will probably be a little bit better in the places that it is good but if over quickly it's 25 megabits per second right for a minimum yeah I think you can go lower okay I think you can go to 15 and have seven twenty fifteen to twenty five million but for a second though I think what if it if people can get that I'm starting to think about just small businesses and emerging markets like if you go to Philippines or something like that are Thailand there's internet cafes CC bombing exactly there's internet cafes with desktop computers well with this they either won't have to provide any machines or they'll just provide basic like Chromebooks and as long as they have good internet it makes you gotta be bossed of hosting that place a lot a lot lower you just need a bunch of Ethernet cable sticking out yeah it's kind of cool let's see like let's go to Shaw what is Shaw's like basic plan I don't know I'd like to know actually lately I've been thinking I should get gigabit maybe I don't think they have are you've got to go to like no Varys or something called no I just want to see I'm going for like with if your mom and dad don't care about the internet yeah and you like to play stadia is that called Lightspeed really internet 7575 is like as low as you can go on Shaw Wow man I think people are gonna be okay it's still 50 bucks though 65 bucks a month kind of nuts man I remember used to be 30 now it's like 120 heard the good stuff Wow hey what about the control have you seen the controller I have the interested in that Hayden what do you think absolutely hate it the look you mean I will hate using it how do you know so I hate PlayStation controllers I wish they would have put the thumb stick up by the right why is my only problem I agreed stop I don't know why they did that maybe it would look too much like an Xbox controller I have fairly large hands and I have no idea how people with fairly large hands place their hands on PlayStation controllers properly because with an Xbox controller I can like offset both hands a little bit and it works okay I don't like controllers in general I'd liked the Duke controller really hates cuz it's way too big everyone in my family my dad with my brother and me all love to do really but the buttons are pretty close together on duke like they're not spaced like that like those ones that's fair but I liked how you grip it yeah and where the thumb stick this is good information free cuz I think we're gonna do a video on the Duke nice yeah anymore they made a new one though you can get find one really yeah there's a new Duke controller new that was awesome yeah I think they made it as like a semi joke semi like you can buy it to remember the past kind of okay I don't think it was a huge problem yeah because we made that video like was Windows Vista really that bad and we're thinking about doing other things like that like was the Duke never really that bad I don't think I think the Duke controller was a bad idea because I think they were what they ended up aiming for whether they meant to or not was a very small group of people so like bad show the new export like Xbox 360 controllers are great the best I love accessories okay this looks kind of Mickey Mouse especially look at the d-pad it looks kind of Maj it does but in this article he said it felt very Xbox II says it feels good Google makes okay hardware are you using it yeah yeah I'm not that worried about how okay I'm a little bit worried because controllers are actually relatively hard but yeah knowing Google I'm going to assume they're their material stuff will be pretty good and I'm assuming their thumb sticks and their buttons in their d-pad and whatnot will all be pretty good mm-hmm I don't suspect they're gonna be the best I don't think they're going to be terrible though if people have been watching channel for a long time they've seen me pitch a controller to Linus while he hits it with a bat we've had some pretty negative experiences with controllers I don't expect we'll have that here the one thing I'm going to hate is those damn thumb sticks yeah me too I've always been into the staggered thumbs just to me it seems objectively more ergonomic like your hand wants to be like this it doesn't want to be like that I have I have seen people where it looks like it worked really well for them for me I just look like a crazy alien trying to hold the damn place good lord what do you think about this other special button we haven't talked about the Google assistant button apparently when you're like stuck at a part in a game you can hold it down and be like I need help and we don't know what it does but it says of the Nintendo insider program whatever that was called or you could call in yeah like we're going back to the like late eight if I have to guess I think it looks at like at times some sort of metadata timestamp of where you are in the game and we'll bring up other people's streams or their at the same spot and then so you can just watch that and they can they they would be able to tell because their progression data would go forward so they would know that they'd be better yeah yeah and it's just it's integrated with YouTube again and the assistance interesting they'd have to find interesting it would be so funny if the most viewed clip at that part of the game was some kind of troll the hilarious part Jenkins kind of clearly asked for help and that you get Leroy Jenkins it god damn it that's hilarious or like how do you censor oh because like there's there's the game that you could be playing which might be M rated or something okay so you have to be whatever HR ready but what if you like are playing that game but you really don't like it swear words or you really don't like oh yeah okay conversations about a specific topic and that streamer happens to be saying something at that time and it brings you to that stream so what they're gonna have to find like oh wow non for mature audience streamers maybe they'll just use the thumbs up and down or you can report that and they won't use anything I got flagged yeah I just with what YouTube's algorithm has been doing for the last while in terms of players people and stuff I don't know how much I trust that but that's interesting though is that I think it's kind of it would be even cooler if they tracked how many times you used it in the game why just so that you have that like if you get a I could but oh like a completion angle am I kind of a loser you definitely are right it's like but it's hitting right there like been stuck on this boss for 45 min you could just press the button and it's just like god I think of it yeah I don't know I think you getting achievement unlocked for like beating it with no button no said you didn't use this tech that we made good job I don't expect they'd do it but I think we cool you just hold it down this order pizza while you're playing so what there's a next I assume it has the power of the assistant like full on right yeah yeah yeah so there's there's stadia home-button I'm assuming in the middle yeah because there is a there is a UI that you can use rather than using voice so maybe that's what does that it probably turns on the controller as well well and I'm assuming that brings you to like game selection and whatever else well what are these other two buttons on the top then so I'm thinking stadia home screenshot that's the capture button yeah capture screenshot whatever our stars screaming screaming or yeah okay yeah Multimedia of some thing oh wait is it just streaming for sure I kind of funky to have a start stream button on your controller I I would assume that it's a option either oh okay then Google help I'm assuming settings and like dot dot and then the hamburger menu thing yeah which I'm assuming are just developer programmable buttons essentially start and select yeah yeah yes so and then how many shoulder buttons do you think it has that I think there are other images you think a Google image it like we I know I've seen other angles so we might be able to see if it has just two bumpers or if it's got triggers to I just want to control it let me just come up I think I'll be fine but you never know side looks like - yeah you can tell on that yeah sweet it looks more the paddles look more Xbox II from that it's a big flick on the bottom of the trigger you see I like to like underneath your hand to hold under your you know like yeah yeah yeah this is the controller that's my finger yeah and it's got Wi-Fi built-in hey so when you're doing with chromecast the controller itself is what's connecting to the Google servers so I guess that's the lowest latency way to do it I want to I want to pull the audience here really quick because I that the non offset thumbsticks drives me absolutely you want to say who is on your team but I'm wondering if they made the right decision maybe fanboys better get in here assemblé what would you call the PlayStation style or should I just do Xbox style versus PlayStation style awesome but I don't want my fan ball mine aligned okay plain are I felt like putting KB mod in there but I don't want to screw the poll too much hmm I wonder though cuz even on the the switch pro controller the buttons kind of suck like to your point about controllers being hard floors are hard they're hard they're really hard like the the lab at Microsoft but I don't remember exactly what it's called where they like bring in tons of people take 360 degree photos of them take exact scans of their hands have them try controllers do like extensive organ ama casting on controlling stuff like Microsoft is crazy both that tour you did when you saw like their hardware surface yeah stuff it's wild they have a whole fairly sizable and very well-funded team as far as I can tell team dedicated to just the ergonomics of different things that they make yeah they still make mistakes sometimes Wow and like those those guys are crazy as far as I can tell well sorry YouTube I don't have you guys open on on this screen so I can't share the strawpoll thank to you hopefully someone watching will go over and post it on post on YouTube yeah just comes out 50/50 we need those YouTube votes we do it's strawpoll dot any / 1 7 6 6 0 7 0 1 there you go Wow let's see what the current results are I wonder well it's button with the stream what do you think they're gonna price that controller at result wow it is pretty close what offset is winning yes he's 5 Oh what if that's a PC thing it's very close though he's legitimately and votes are pouring in but its moe staying at where it's at well they just stopped me we're pouring it I need a refresh Wow I mean you want to make it not a fanboy thing but I'm pretty sure it's a fanboy thing probably like if you raise Playstation that's what you're gonna like although mind you I had a ps1 including the DualShock with those thumb stick a few years then I had Xbox from then on so I did experience both but I loved the Xbox design as soon as they came in with the controller ass yeah the Duke No when I got my xbox that ass was already out okay it was that Christmas yeah so I almost all my experiences was Nintendo except my cousin's had a Playstation so all my like adult console playing not that I think Nintendo isn't but I think you know what I mean was on a Playstation and then we got our own Xbox and was immediately like holy crap this controllers way better it was it was an immediate thing it wasn't like oh I'm more used to this one now it was like I knew the whole time I was Asian I didn't like that controller and when I pick up a PlayStation 1 now I'm like yeah yes exactly yeah yeah but maybe the PlayStation people feel like that when they pick up a off set maybe yeah it is quite close I am surprised this is this is X T 4 T now this is kind of it's still pretty close all right this is kind of what I expected was offset was going to win but not by a ton and I I wonder like did Google even bother trying to check this out or maybe they got different results from us maybe it's a problem because we are a more PC focused community well I think it's a problem because we're probably a more Western community right now especially due to the time slot of the LAN show maybe this will change after the vaad goes up and people in different times don't see it wise like when the Japan comes online hahaha right but why they will probably change a little bit but why did they come to that conclusion that it's just so weird I don't know we should probably do some some spots here right that makes sense we have to talk about something that isn't stadia for some amount of time on the show bump savage jerky Moho they're jerky is made with the best ingredients without nitrates or preservatives with the goal to create a snack that it's full of flavor and spice it isn't bad for you and it's handmade pretty cool one of their flavors that they're trying to promote right now is momo premium jerky it is my second favorite flavor what does Maho mean garlic lime and 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to play devil's advocate to just drive the conversation forward somewhat because I think that is a super BS statement to a certain degree I think a lot of it is definitely about your game look at apex legends there was no marketing around that before it came out and it blew up immediately it can be definitely about your game but a lot of the driving around that is there was no traditional marketing for apex legends what there was was huge million dollar deals to get streamers to play it on day of launch okay ninja got a million dollars for one stream as far as I know drought and a whole bunch of other streamers were also paid to play it on launch there was a lot of new-age marketing for Apex there was actually a ton of marketing it was just right away on launch instead of crappy trailers from way before and it was a good game and it was a really good game so when they played it they're like this is sick yeah so marketing and the game matters both of those things matters I think a huge amount of marketing for Metro Exodus like way more than probably any version of Metro has ever had in the past was everyone complaining about the fact that is on the epic game store the the fact that Metro Exodus was an exclusive on the epic game store going hey everyone there's this cool game that we're showing you in this article that's on the epic game store buy it here was probably a big freaking help I it's it was on the top of Reddit as far as I know it was all over the place oh my goodness Metro Exodus is going to be an epic game store exclusive let me ask you this you bought the collector's edition there's a sticker on the back that covers the steam logo and puts the epic game store logo that tops read it again like there was huge talk about it sorry you go let me ask you this aside from this particular example do you personally feel like you have loyalty to any game store or distribution platform or is content is king I prefer content is king for me for sure it's about the game it's a sliding scale probably well yes but I would prefer to buy something on Steam because I find notable annoyances in the other platforms okay like there's there's a number of notable annoyances with origin design things that I don't like about the platform and I mean yeah as well sure I will grant that if there's if it's if a game is available on all all-district all platforms it's not usually the case but if it is you know then you're gonna have your favorite right and maybe its usability or where your friends list is or something like that that's probably a big part of it but more and more people using discord and other like agnostic things yeah but my biggest thing is the game for sure to give an example the tie-in with what you were just talking about is Hades a game from supergiant games I'm a massive supergiant games fanboy bastions one of my favorite games ever hades came out on the epic game store only i bought it immediately and had to download and install the epic game store to play it i just did it because they're one of my favorite game developers i'm sure i love this game i did love the game it's not a lot of friction there no here's another thing that might sway where you bite get your game from on the epic game store the developers only have to pay out 12% - that's how much the epic game store is gonna take they're gonna take 12 percent of the revenue on Steam they're taking 30 percent for the first 10 million dollars in sales after that Valve's going to take 25 percent then further down to just 20 percent after 50 million sales 20 percent is still a lot more than 12 percent and 50 million dollars in sales is a lot so you know you the developers getting more so if you care about that you might go to a game store there's also some other stuff like this which I definitely don't know enough about but is epic game store user data accessible by the Chinese government oh if I remember correctly I could be super off here because I didn't know we were gonna go this angle on the stream so don't believe what I'm saying and look into it on your own I think 10 cent has a pretty big ownership of Epic Games oh yeah well that's a problem is that is that right or is that super off I'm really not sure or maybe well they definitely own fortnight here's why you're looking that up here's another thing that's kind of cool while Metro Exodus runs the developer zone for a engine were it were that game powered by epics Unreal Engine 4 the engine licensing fees would have come out of epics 12% cut instead of being added on top of steams 30% cut so that is a huge incentive for developers to go on that platform and use that that that's just a dual incentive I think that's so cool use our platform for distribution and use our engine and then you're gonna save you're gonna have so much more revenue yeah that's cool that is that's a really good angle for them the 10 10 cent thing that I just called it was true apparently 10 cent owns 40% of Epic Games what does that mean for the law though and well it you know that law that I'm talking about we're like that company like Chinese corporations have to yeah yeah I mean you go to the government in there that stuff so like do they have to be a 51% owner in order for that law to apply I don't know I don't know I have no idea it's it's a very it's a but but it muddies the water for a lot of people anytime big China is involved you know things get a little bit murky and we're depending on how people are gonna want to deal with things but then you're probably talking your friends on discord anyways so so okay anyway part of this article is that the steam store is being redesigned to look more modern what do you think about that often people don't like redesigns the one thing that threw me off a little bit is in the dock at least it's so specifically steam the library redesigned mm-hmm the steam store I couldn't give a care if the steam store changes I don't necessarily want huge changes to the steam library just because right now it's extremely efficient there's the search bars right there you search a lot of really fancy interfaces are not easy to use they become less efficient more clicks are involved or just like there's no clear hierarchy of things there's just big flashy tiles and you're like like I was playing project cars to it it's just like settings is here and quick plays and they're all just like look super slick but if you're lost whereas the traditional like file system yeah look yeah and steam uses that for your library the default view is just like tiny text names for each game with no fancy indicators at all I think as young people because the epic game store is gonna have a lot of its users coming there because of fortnight fortnight I would assume is a pretty young user base if this is the next generation of gamers and if they if there is any kind of loyalty to the platform then these are you don't get them while they're young on the epic game store if steam or valve wants to attract those users to their platform they're gonna have to have a platform that isn't icky when you first log in that is like whoa this is too too information dense to inaccessible I'm out of here I'm going back to epic yeah yeah I I think that would be so 53% of four-night gamers are ten to twenty ten to twenty five yeah half of them if they're a younger what else you got no what yeah younger than ten no four percent of memory in strollers okay so yeah I don't know it's just it's it's an interesting kind of idea but I could definitely see that being a thing I just my only thing is when they redesign chat I don't really think you got much better I think I think chat went from like what would I even say here like a 2002 design to like 2000 and late 2000 and yeah exactly like it didn't even get into the tenseness they went they worked for like 2002 to 2009 2009 but like it's 29 team now so you redesigned your chat and it doesn't look new so are they gonna redesign their library and it's just gonna potentially be less efficient potentially and still not look that fancy a new time will tell yeah we'll see I just steam it I don't personally have a lot of confidence in steam redesigning things graphically because it's never been an attractive platform in my opinion should we look at some super chats yeah let's do it maybe that changes maybe that all changes maybe that changes maybe they do a great job I don't know I think we probably could know right now I think there's details even in the land aw here my reading that I'm reading super chats Luke do you also dislike services like Netflix I don't have a Netflix subscription raise I'm a weird person you're old hat I'm very old but I think one of my things one of my reasons for doing that is like one of the things I'm a super fan boy out of his Star Wars specifically within the Star Wars universe I am a super fanboy of the Clone Wars animated series mm-hmm I bought the Clone Wars animated series on blu-ray and then Disney was like hey we're gonna have our own streaming platform and we're ripping all of our stuff off of your platforms so now my Netflix description is not gonna have Star Wars on it anymore but I still have it so that's that's my thing is like very good I don't even watch shows that often that's another thing so like the ones I care about I have yeah I don't have to worry about some New Deal or something coming in with different platforms and oh they're raising their rates or whatever I don't care I already own the things and that happens every month every month there's content that leaves the Canadian Netflix and I don't have to worry about it alright hit me hit me other no one it's just g-force now but Google's version yeah kind of LT x b YC update is there one sold out oh yeah I think I think that's all I just meant e^x update in general the LT x blog has 10 years of gaming PC PCs booth posted today 10 years of gaming PCs booth so anything to do with the BYOC well this this drawing that Linus did is straight up tended to Linus actually do that I guess it was him it wasn't Colton I don't know that is paint that is straight up and that's paint what the heck look at those arrows like the line from the arrow intersect at the point oh my goodness this computer is just falling off the edge standing desk don't want people sitting there all day make them move along no loitering employee oh that's pretty cool ooh Starcraft 2 so a a physically lined up ten different games one year each so you can kind of float them between them and see how I like graphics and stuff are developed with a conveyor belts it just ya know lawyer you gotta move it or lose it sister else we got luke black home I know it looks funky today right yeah he played runescape yes I have I played runescape when my internet was so slow that I would launch it in my browser go out on stairs make a sandwich and make some peach juice bring my sandwich my peach juice upstairs the details tells me the story is real and it is and mostly eat it before the game but lunch I played it back then and I having my phone now but I played for like four minutes and was like wow online game I didn't know that yeah I remember like seeing it around but I never knew anyone who played it never played it yeah I was pretty into it when I was like a real little dude here in Montana we have a government company that for a week we had a company take two billion dollars in government funding for Internet infrastructure and embezzled it nice Wow cool that is uh Google shock is dual do do ya guys move to your left you're off center yeah I think we're off center most of the stream oh well you've seen the info but the epics store reading steam user info files yeah I heard something about that too like the epic stores kind of creepy which which throws me off a bit at is sprinting resizes is going to something very important PC gaming is a huge boon population since 2013 when Metro last light came out I don't think that's why that happened oh I see what you're saying okay exodus has also been absolutely everywhere in piece of gaming news sales numbers shouldn't be a surprise yeah that's actually a pretty good point yeah since 2013 especially because of streaming PC gaming has exploded there's way more people in PC gaming now than there was before Intel has seen the first increase in like gaming PC CPU sales for desktop in a long time fairly recently pretty crazy also Metro Exodus is like one of the most talked-about games this year and and yeah the whole the whole ecosystem has changed so much 2013 with streaming and eSports that every aspect of it is so different now so epic being like just about the game is a little ridiculous especially because at least I know with Hades I don't know if this happened with Metro Exodus but I feel like it did I just don't have any facts for this I do know with Hades the epic store was promoting Hades oh yeah elsewhere an epic bought out that exclusivity so they're just trying to promote a game that they I will certainly can see that that that statistics two and a half times better that is pretty misleading I still think that the overall point of people care the content is king and yes they're not too loyal yes I still think that stance I do with that yeah but with that the show's over I'll see you next week boom later folks that's it I almost just tried to turn OBS off on the laptop but that's not how that works well