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oh boy short time yeah we got this we got this there's a bunch of time a little while ago but not a ton of news but there is some news oh there is definitely some news I missed something all right well enthusiastic I am like all upset about right to repair crap right now oh yes so there was there okay here what is that yeah Apple iOS 11.3 updated and left some repaired iPhones I believe specifically third-party repaired iPhones with with no touch functionality when I first read this I thought it meant like it wouldn't fingerprint like oh okay no the screen is no no much worse than that we're talking iPhones that worked and were bricked by software yeah California is the latest state to explore net neutrality protection after the FCC repealed and Google Chat is set to rival iMessage and displace SMS okay that I really want to talk about too because you know Al oh yeah yeah that whole team was like disbanded now and moved over to this okay Google just straight-up cannot make them make up their mind okay oh this I plan to talk about for a fair bit so Oppo Oppo digital to be clear Oppo digital not Oppo is ceasing development of new products and a few guys are thinking what aren't they like a gigantic phone manufacturer Oppo digital is not yeah and this is important for a number of reasons so we're gonna get into that after the intro which will work maybe yeah Oh Oh some people don't like your don't like your color my color their like it looks like an Instagram filter oh oh oh sponsors but it's meaning whatever what do you think okay so here's the problem it's hard to tell because this is a gaming monitor and whoever's watching might be on I don't know something else something else but I can't tell you guys that looking at it on my blade anyway like kind of look like that in person maybe it's a little richer maybe it's a little rich it's not that far off though like our shirts are actually you know what it's it's not far off yeah I mean part of why we look weird might be that we are really popping out as colorful against sort of a more have like neutral set will this work I guess that would do that either way but there's a light like like I can almost touch it yeah do that and there's one on that and I would almost be able to touch this one if my arms were long because I wasn't a small human yeah it's it's a very different setup than normal ah I haven't even seen you this week no I barely this week like what is going on I've barely slept this week I went to bed at 5 in the morning last night I skipped my stream on Wednesday I'm skipping my stream tonight this has been a rough rough week we'll make it though next week is looking good if I get if I get everything done this weekend next week is looking good ok sweet so this is all floatplane stuff yeah yeah so I had what I thought were some really good updates for you and then I think I ended up crapping on you you did towards the second that was a good little bump partway through the week so you know it's okay there is a lot going well just we're not explaining any of this stuff yeah I talk about most of it which isn't very help yeah we're we're still progressing things are going well there's the PayPal option on the new site should be ready fairly soon there's been a lot of minor fixes that have coming up there was one that a lot of people are complaining about which took us a little while to kind of figure out but the resolution selection was not showing up for all the people with ADD blog yeah it shouldn't matter there's no ads on flow plane it shouldn't matter but for some reason that was a thing so we ended up fixing that which was I don't think clear that wasn't something we were doing intentionally no it was just it was something to do with the element that is our resolution control thing looked like a third party thing being loaded or something like that yeah so that's now been fixed so that's good yeah so so and there's been out there like there's been a lot of improvement things my like personal week like doing the stuff that I do was just rough the platform is doing great this my like stuff was has been and when PayPal rolls around by the time by this time next week by wine show next week I think we'll have a new creator to announce yeah maybe two depending on whether one of them who I'm just gonna say it who is a little bit lazy one of them who's a little bit lazy depending on whether that one gets back to me with some paperwork whatever I would tell that person to their face yeah are you asking yeah dog he knows what's up hey hey look look I wouldn't say everyone's gonna know I wouldn't say anything about anyone on wine show that I wouldn't say to their face because I know that watching wine show if they weren't too lazy is pretty straightforward I don't think anyone's he's probably just got lots of other important things as well look I've heard it from this person's manager I've heard it from this person directly and I have made I have made my own observations about okay I like this person very much me too Wilbur say disparaging dairy it's not disparaging has to be untrue okay very talented creator could probably be much bigger if the sleeves got rolled up a little more often Wow that's a compliment that's a compliment kind of it's a backhanded compliment oh it's a pat on the back with a spiked globe it's a subset of compliment can we agree on that all right oh my goodness well you guys I want to hide behind me I'm coming back I'm coming back I got this oh man um okay why don't why don't we jump right into one of our bigger topics of the day so this Widgeon Allart achill here is from motherboard vice.com oh by the way go ahead and pop this up here sharing in the chat and bringing up on screen and talking about stuff it's difficult when you're gone thank you for coming back oh yeah oh you're very welcome I was a lot of stuff to do I was in China last week that was a lot of fun we had a lot of people ask us if we were planning a collab with strange parts and no we weren't planning a collab oh yeah okay yeah oh you know what I guess I guess I better just what no I thought that one was an accident but the cable management on my mouse is a little tight here I was so excited and you made me so sad for such a short period of time but okay we were not planning a collab but actually I had one of the best in flight experiences I have ever had on my way to China so I did a daytime flight for a change instead of a red-eye so I was awake for the plane ride yeah and my wife I was banging I was getting one megabyte per second downloads for like long stretches of what was a nine or 10 hour flight or whatever it was yeah dog it was nice to China from here yes sir Wow and they did warn me that there would be some some kind of sketchy spots over Russia and over China itself but they actually were very short and speeds were just slower not bad okay yep so I was really impressed and so I got a lot of work done I actually got something like 200 emails done while I was on that flight including several to Scottie cool so we actually synched up while I was on my way over there and we ended up working out a plan for getting together and what we ended up doing was exploring the sort of the electronics market in Shenzhen yeah because I saw your tweet saying you were doing that with them so when you said you you didn't do a thing else really confused no no we did get together it's called a kwok-hung day Hawk Wang Bay whatever okay my Chinese is not great I made him say it in the video yeah just like yeah it seems to be quite good it's okay I took my favorite thing is when he says something I'm like wow I'm impressed and then the person like does a little like shuffle back slightly and then responds in English and I'm like come on he tried so hard that sounded so good ouch yeah so so we got together and we started out just kind of like poking around but what I realized was that place is so fast and there is so much stuff in it that it is like it's overwhelming yeah like it's completely overwhelming like it if you want laser pointers that can burn stuff you can find that if you want what are apparently really cool microscopes I'm not much of a microscope nerd but what are apparently like super cool microscopes you couldn't you can get that stuff I know Lou from unbox therapy ended up like going on a shopping spree ultimately but I'm not much of a shopper I actually buy very little stuff other than like yeah you too yeah oh I thought you were gesturing you know something okay yeah but like we're both kind of cheap so I'm not the kind of person who just like walks into a mall and it's like oh wow I need to buy all the thing my mom bought me this shirt thank you mom so what I realized is I needed an objective so what I found out was that his editor is actually based in Mexico okay and is running like a very very like very run-of-the-mill and not current-gen editing system so I was like how about this let's see if we can build a system here a video editing system for cheaper than if we just ordered it off newegg.com okay so certain parts like graphics cards for example mining by the way huge in Foshan Bay I know I said it wrong I'm sorry but whatever huge that huge in China in general so if we had wanted mining stuff then there's lots of selection but mining pricing and then the effect that mining has on pricing of components like GPUs is pretty much sort of what it is it's like it's like people who travel expecting to get a deal on a gold bracelet yeah it's like Gold's a commodity it costs what it costs and you can pay in whatever sort of rupees or shekels or or dong or whatever you can pay in whatever currency you want you're still ultimately paying what you're paying so certain components like graphics cards there were not deals to be fair but then there there are other things like I found this like 1600 watt power supply that was like 80 bucks oh I didn't buy that one cuz I picked it up and I was like oh wow that's far too late for what you think there is nothing in there but like cases you think given that they're probably manufactured up the road that cases would be pretty cheap so it turns out cases are actually well okay the case is a cool part of the video okay you're gonna enjoy them so anyway I was like okay let's build an editing workstation for his editor and then halfway through he's like you know what screw my editor I'm gonna give the system away to my viewers so what I think what's actually gonna happen is he's got a video of kind of his side of this whole interaction and he filmed so stealthily I even asked him at the end I was like did you film anything he's like oh yeah I felt like most of it I'm like wow you know he's always doing that stuff for us he's like puts his camera on the counter he's got those like that guy is stealthy here like a tall white dude in China so he's got his side and we've got our side and then he's going to be doing a giveaway of the system that we built to one of his viewers because I don't know I don't know if people know this in general but he's trying to go full-time youtuber I didn't know that yeah like that has been his intent okay so what looked like just sort of a weird side project was actually just a pretty focused pretty smart dude making some super explosive videos to get his channel kick-started okay yeah yeah if you guys don't somehow know who we're talking about it's Scotty from strange parts you trigger the strange parts YouTube channel yeah so he's more likely to be recognized as the guy who built his own iPhone out of parts or the guy who invented a iPhone jack or a headphone jack do it iPhone all right people are gonna be like people are gonna be flipping their crap okay one spoiler we end up with a Rison system oh cool cool yeah all right so uh let's go back to what I was planning to talk about which is the new iOS update that right right this this is what got me talking about him because his whole thing is like hacking phones apparently so anyway new iOS at iOS update killed touch functionality on iPhone 8 motherboard got vice.com you guys got to be careful cuz that looks like iPhone 8's that does that does quite directly look like iPhone 8 it I know it is technically not grammatically correct but if you throw an apostrophe in there people will know sort of inherently that you mean iPhone 8 oh it's a comment that's not what they mean wow yeah there's no iPhone 8's yeah I know so yeah if you if you put the apostrophe in there like little pro tip it's incorrect but people will know what you mean at least yeah or you can do iPhone 8 phones or something like that but I don't know if that's good for SEO but then they don't have that Nash's weird yes sort of a bad idea anyway so what went down here was Apple rolled out iOS eleven point three and if you've if you've ever sort of looked into write to repair and apples reputation around this whole movement this probably won't surprise you that much because they've been known to do things like not provide third-party repair shops with the with the tools that they need in order to retain touch ID functionality on iPhones with replaced home buttons and this was far more of an issue with a phone like the iPhone 6s which had a hardware touch button or excuse me a hardware home button that was not solid-state so they switched to the solid state button with the seven which is much harder to break whereas those those clicky buttons no that was a pretty common piece to end up damaged on the iPhone leading up to that time so so what would happen was people would take it into a third-party repair shop and they would have a perfectly authentic button and a perfectly authentic phone and they would put them together but without Apple's special sauce they wouldn't be able to make it work even though that has nothing to do with the secure Enclave that actually holds the fingerprint information this was just Apple being restrictive because they can be restrictive so anyway the issue affected phones that had their screens replaced with aftermarket displays ie not repaired by an Apple Authorized facility and it is believed to be because of an incompatibility between a small chip that controls the screen and the aftermarket displays so it's possible this is an accident it is possible that it is something Apple did on purpose but either way one is saying that our ' thing thing is not incorrect it's an exception and you can put it after a number if it's a single-digit oh well thank John Martin appreciate that okay so my confusion there though would be if it was an iPhone 10 yeah you would say iPhone tens yeah but in text yeah but you would say so oh X because it's a single digit oh right it's an X yeah that's still not a digit yeah so in this case yeah our little thing works for yeah grammatically correct hooray attends gonna wreck everything so I guess this whole this whole reaching the topic of broaching reaching broaching whatever on the topic of right to repair yes I will have a response I don't know if you've been following this drama but we did a video on how our I Mac Pro is still broken and Wow pretty much everyone and their dog has made a response one of the news articles about it on an Apple sort of centric news site has a thousand comments on it yeah Wow like this when this went viral and sort of very general sentiment the general consensus depends on who you ask if people are more of like if they're more in sort of the techie PC DIY crowd they're like wow this is ridiculous yeah if they're in the not that crowd Cupertino crowd let's let's call it that if they're in the Cupertino crowd then it's my fault for not reading the terms and conditions that stipulate that Apple doesn't have to repair something that has been modified by a third party so okay I actually have a lot of notes made for this video already will be addressing the vast majority of the comments that people have made deciding we don't do that that of articles that have been written well the actually we wouldn't be doing it except that we still need to fix the freaking iMac Pro so that's in progress we are working on a solution that will allow us to get parts and fix okay uh it's gonna be a weird solution and we're gonna be talking about the hoops that we've had to jump through in order to get there some of the hoops that were available that we chose not to jump through whether because they were too expensive or too sketchy or whatever else the case may be but this this saga is far from over well there is one thing that I absolutely want to address now and tell you what I haven't screen shot at anything yet so if you're one of the tool sheds out there who posted that this was the reason that they denied the repair and go back and edit your comment and you won't end up in the video okay a shocking number of people said that even though Apple never said this and it's nowhere in the screenshots and it's nowhere in the policy and it's certainly not in the video a number of people have concluded that Apple didn't repair it because the cost of the parts I mean you guys totaled this thing the cost of the parts is so high that it's more than just buying a new machine anyway so you should just buy a new machine what are you stupid okay even if all of the parts that we listed in the video the display the mainboard and the power supply even if they're all dead which they may very well not be you can actually have a component short out and be protected by the on-board circuitry that does exist in some cases if you get lucky you can actually have sparks fly off the board and have it live for years even if all of the components that we think could possibly be dead are in fact dead that is a $5,000 machine you got to be drinking some pretty freakin amazing kool-aid to think that a monitor a motherboard and a power supply are worth $5,000 it's at least a $3,000 powers for $3,000 power supply is out you get off my show never get off my show you don't even work here that's fair the CPU alone is like five seven hundred dollars yeah the 32 gigs of DDR for ECC Ram yeah that has the value it's expensive the chassis remember this is an Apple chassis it's a special chassis that costs money the SSD the dual SSDs those are still good so people are running in going well I mean you broke this stuff total write-off total write-off that that's why they wouldn't replace it the cost was too high and I had one I had one guy being luck that's like you know it's gonna be $300 of labor plus the cost of these parts is more than the cost of the system pretty drunk oh man like the amount of like the amount of worship that goes on here just boggles my mind it baffles me anyway there will be a video I promise it will be epic and I don't know if I'm ready to promise this yet but we are definitely working on flying mr. lewis Rossmann out here Oh help me put this thing 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a time delay it's like rooting through like a treasure chest I know right they sent so much maple buffalo bacon and I'm so excited I'm gonna have some but I'm gonna have some of the sriracha bacon first I mean I meant no I'm not no I'm not sharing that kind though it's for me they sent it because they know I liked it they didn't send it because they know you like it edie maybe if they send even more next time I will consider sharing the maple muff buffalo bacon yeah actually yeah well I'm gonna put this over here you know what I'm gonna put it right next to me okay so it's not being hidden it's being put in like a high threat area that's right you got close you're gonna get swatted yo no not that I don't know we're on the platform that that is like popular on savage jerky is made with that was pretty savage without nitrates or preservatives their goal was to create snack that's full of flavor and not bad for you mmm I've got 13 different flavors of jerky some of the favorites are sriracha Bacon's was actually really good I don't know if I've tried this one before this is really good their maple buffalo bacon the traditional Moho Mohawk flavors are fantastic aside from Turkey they make barbecue sauce hot sauce and a spice rub their Carolina Reaper hot sauce uses one of the hottest peppers in the world the bell haha I think I've made that joke before but whatever it's the Carolina Reaper it's right in the name and you can use offer code LTTE to save 10% over at Savage jerky dot-com not move really good dang through out your bacon that's right yes uh-huh technically only claims the maple buffalo bacon uh-huh huh only one piece I might claim this in the future though really nice all right so the original article here is from Ars Technica calm but it would appear as though California is the latest in a number of states that are exploring net neutrality bills to protect net neutrality in spite of what's going on with the federal government so basically they're attempting to restore net neutrality provisions that are similar to the ones that were used by the FCC before their recent repeal however in addition to prohibiting fast lanes throttling blocking and paid prioritization they want to go a step further to prohibit zero-rating which is when the use of a certain site such as Netflix doesn't count against a user's data cap now I have mixed feelings about zero rating it sounds cool like at first the issue with it the big the big issue with it is say one of these ISPs owns a service which is really common they could zero rate their own service so that you subscribe to them instead of someone else so John's coming but in the meantime I want to present my he's deleted all his notes I wanna I wanna okay I want to present my sort of dumb consumer who's very selfish sort of point of view and go well I can see things about this that I would really like because zero rating can be applied in that way where someone like a Comcast might say that okay you know watching watching shows from Comcast who owns Comcast again or who does Comcast own or NBC okay so you know NBC streams don't count against your data usage but there are cases of zero rating where they aren't implementing it on their own services like for example t-mobile yeah allows I think it's a YouTube streaming doesn't count against your data plan well I mean Google doesn't own t-mobile and vice versa this is just a handshake deal which again on the surface can look really good for consumers because hey you can watch all the YouTube you want if you're a t-mobile copy erratically that hurts like twitch and whatever else but or some you know young upstart video streaming platform hey and that doesn't have a chance to talk to t-mobile about such an arrangement so Jordans gonna tag in for me and talk in a little bit more detail about oh that was why you're here right yeah feel free to explain it in better detail than one okay so we're looking at we're looking at the California bill on neutrality right yeah though okay so um which way which bullet point early on because the last bullet point is here we we've we've only gone through a few of them but we've talked about this kind of thing on the show before so I think a lot of people kind of know okay especially what's going on okay so um so you talked about your writing already right yeah so okay so right now the bill is that it got passed by like this little subcommittee or something in their estate house okay um so it still has to be passed by both chambers signed into law and all that but both chambers and the governor's mansion they're currently controlled by Democrats who traditionally have been more friendly towards net neutrality so we'll see what happens with it um right now ISPs are unsurprisingly opposing the bill and they also might challenge it in court if it does indeed become law there are a number of legal arguments they could use to try to get this scrapped and this is interesting not only because California is such a huge state but since the FCC repeal a few months ago I think they've gone so far they've gone further than any other states have and trying to have like a real sort of like comprehensive neutrality law right so what I put down here was they might argue on federal preemption or that the bill unduly burdens what is federal preemption so that is when a federal law and a state law come into conflict okay and there's a number of ways that can happen obviously there are very clear cases where the federal law says one thing and the state law says exactly the opposite so you don't need to be a lawyer to understand that but there's also cases where it's a little more subtle this being one of them so what happened when the FCC repealed the net neutrality protections a few months back they they specifically said we need to return to the light touch regulation of the internet and this is exactly what we're doing so is it really actually pre-empting anything if in lines I'm going to reach over the desk here and steal some more sriracha bacon jerky I don't blame them that stuff is delicious but but it's good yeah it's okay anyway so um well federal back in you like bacon grab okay so do we just right yes okay well so they're trying to the sec is saying they're trying to regulate the internet less give the ISPs a little more leeway yeah but the question here then becomes is there does that mean the federal government is intending to in law they call it occupying the fields does does the federal government in and to regulate this area so heavily that the states can't do anything about it but in their own order they said we're trying to regulate this less heavily and scrap these net neutrality regulations so that that would be a very interesting like battle in court yeah okay yeah so they're saying like we we we don't want to regulate this as much but they're aggressively not regulating and trying to make sure that no one else can either well I don't know if they're consciously trying to do that but what I'm saying is like when when a big like ISP takes the state of California to court and says they can't do this they might try to argue that the federal government has tried to occupy the fuel somehow it might not be a great argument but I expect them to try it the other thing they might argue is which they might be more successful with is saying the bill unduly burdens interstate commerce which is which is a which is a constitutional argument but basically it's so I know right yeah so but the idea is that one state can't um can't meddle in the affairs of how other states only conduct commerce between them so okay so like if you're if you're importing like what let's use a simpler example let's say you're importing a bunch of bacon jerky let's say the state of North Carolina is importing a bunch of bacon jerky um like from another state or from another country from another state okay um so they're actually that would make sense because I think savage jerky is based out of Georgia so it will be a quick trip anyway so let's say they're reporting a bunch of bacon jerky and they have regulations on bacon jerky without makin turkey bacon turkey bacon jerky bacon jerky talk about a summon lioness so anyway so let's say there's regulations that the state of NC has on bacon jerky let's saying that they can't have but so many preservatives they have to be at least 95 percent beef or whatever else right this is just a random made-up example yes it's a hypothetical decision it's Friday it's been a long week okay anyway every good thing to regulate then so so let's say they have one set of regulations for bacon jerky produced in state and another set for bacon jerky they're importing from Georgia so that would be that would be against the Constitution you can't do that but if the same rules apply to everybody will be okay okay this is a little more complicated because I could see AT&T Verizon Comcast whoever else walking into court and saying that even though the law because I actually read the law a little bit and it applies to any ISP that has customers in California which makes sense but they could argue something about oh the Internet is so decentralized and because of that this isn't like just importing a product or whatever and this is placing an undue burden on Interstate Commerce whether that would win I have no idea but I do expect a lengthy court battle so okay so there you have it the internet is not like bacon jerky well thank you John if this is the legal corner with John yes thanks John yep man the states are weird yeah I know it's trippy I've never fully understand how life works 52 or like maybe but not 52 because there are also like territories or something and then 50 50 states but then like what is it yeah what are the ones that aren't states because there's yeah Guam Puerto Rico what are those like home but there and they're all kind of like little countries except that they're one country sort of except when they like want to do things that the ones running the one country don't like them or that they don't like and then I don't know and they can like actually fight about that whereas in most other countries it's just like no this how it works since hours it's interesting it's confusing for someone who's isn't from there and didn't like grow up in the system I think it's confusing for the people there to google chat yeah the original article here is from Tom's guide Wow okay you had a comment that all the the alo team was dissolved and brought over here apparently yes this is not the first time this has happened do you think this is the last time man I don't know what to tell you because the article that I was reading about this basically had like a timeline of the whole experience of Google and chat applications going all the way back to I think Google Talk was the first one so to give people a little bit of google chat is a newly proposed thing from Google as a set to rival iMessage and displace SMS which is probably the exact same lines that we've had with previous chat applications from Google but they are taking a different approach this time so to be clear this is not Google Talk turning into g chat turning into was then integrated with hey with google+ and then turning into hangouts and then ello hello and the other one in there was there another one what was the other one at least like two I remember last time the most confusing thing was that they released two at basically the same time and they were only marginally different yeah and like something else I've had a hard time keeping track of exactly what's been going on and yet like I just I find the whole experience of both SMS and chat on Android very frustrating because the feature sets are divergent in like little stupid ways so for example the messages team like you know just the default vanilla stock Android I shouldn't say vanilla because that might be an Android it's like the stock Android messages app it's like so back ass words in some ways we're like like it doesn't have cloud backup I'm gonna sound wise around YouTube demoralization saying it that way bass-ackwards so it's like it's so backwards it doesn't even have cloud backup which just blows me away but that's not completely automatic when I switch from one Android phone to another one all my SMS messages are gone but that team apparently still exists because it must I don't think it was that long ago that they looked at how well a lot of people are busy using facebook messenger because SMS is sort of trashed by today's standards and basically the only thing they're using SMS for is verification codes so when you get your notification for messages it has mark as read we're just like awesome so you never have to touch it again you don't have to click through it to mark it as read you don't have to if you swipe it away it doesn't stay unread Oh some that is pretty great hey yo this doesn't have that Gmail doesn't have that and pretty much I mean pretty much any app now it's just notification spam as far as I can tell and so the ability to mark a notification is red when it comes in without actually opening the notification very nice if I can the more I can do in the notification tray the better because I could just do everything I need to without even opening anything that's fantastic so also the the app I was thinking of was duo which was their video chat thing so they launched a low-end duo and pretty much the same time and they were both for communicating yeah okay but this is not this is not like like a new app that's just another hangouts or a low replacement or whatever the case may be this is more of a back-end upgrade yeah so they're calling a patient services what what is this yeah rich communication services so unlike SMS it'll support video it'll have read receipts it'll support higher res images and the mobile networks will have to opt-in but the idea is that and you know the funny thing to me why do people even care about iMessage that much iMessage is great what are you talking about what's great about it I don't know it just feels nice it goes quick you can tell what phone they have which is cool I don't know every time I've had an iPhone I like that message right but did it really make a difference to you one way or the other if the bubble was blue or green I mean as some SMS sucks as you know mm-hmm how much better really is facebook chat it's not it's not the only reason i use facebook chat is so i message is great because it's fine yeah but facebook chat has a built-in phonebook I don't that's what's useful about facebook chat yeah I don't have everyone on Facebook right but if you wanted to find someone that's the point of a phonebook yeah I don't want to add Facebook to having access to all my stuff though you don't have to you just you just search Facebook for a person when you're like oh right that person and you contact them like that's what I mean by a phonebook not an address book okay like you'd like a directory that's the only reason I give any apps whatsoever about Facebook contact that way on Facebook I don't like people that I like met at badminton once and like want to play with again sometime but I didn't exchange phone numbers with them but I remember their name because it'll come up automatically because they'll be friends with a bunch of other badminton people okay so it'll know like if I'm searching for Andy it'll be like oh yeah probably this Andy even though you don't have them in your contacts I've never used that yeah it's like super useful or like if there was someone that you'd go aside you ran into at a LAN party or something it might no aren't cool anymore I know and I wish they were I would love this so it might know from their association with other gamers that that's the you know Tom Smith that you were most likely to be looking for so it's just it's that's why I use that that's the only reason I care about that iMessage other than an emojis which is a completely artificial lockdown Thank You Apple there's no reason why you couldn't send an emojis as a video clip in hangouts for example I just don't want you to I don't really get it what's so amazing about it maybe people are telling you in twitch chat what's really there isn't much else though group messages on iMessage and whatsapp are much better than SMS okay that's fine but whatsapp has that and you can do that on Facebook Messenger I messages end-to-end encrypted SMS is open to snooping my age is much less creepy okay so if you care about that then you can be using a third-party messaging service in general because I message is just automatically turned on and turned off depending on who the what kind of film the other person has so it's like it's it's like only like sometimes running your VPN when you talk to like some people so I don't really get that either I don't use desk discord that we're talking about privacy so okay yes integration with the desktop experience that is a good one facebook Messenger same thing let's app same thing hangout same thing people are like it just works it kind of does yeah it kind of does but like and I know it's a funny tagline but it kind of does just sort of work it just sort of works the way you would expect SMS to but it doesn't okay I mean so then in a nutshell chat it's like a back-end upgrade to SMS that other messaging apps this is cool like Samsung's messaging app will support Google actually has a fair number of partners sign didn't sign on for this thing so like I mean I guess I'm excited and that's cool but I just yeah I guess that's cool I don't know I just I don't feel like I message needed to be something that had to be competed with apparently it does I do and I guess maybe what I'm forgetting is that a lot of people like when I messaged my mom she doesn't have whatsapp or Facebook Messenger even or anything like to her text messages text message and so if this upgrades the text message experience that normies are probably just using by default because they don't know anything else then I guess that's good but even then we're still not gonna have perfect coverage because we're gonna be relying on iOS to Android and vice versa to kind of translate to each other but maybe Apple and Google will find a way to cooperate on that I'm not sure I haven't looked into it carefully enough to know if that's yeah oh yeah right right here in Tom's article there's no clue as to whether or not Apple will support chat so there you go it's apparently less secure than Apple's own service so might be unlikely it seems pretty secure it does everything you really need it to do and it works all the time and it feels smooth and nice I don't know I like that message it was one of the saddest things about leaving an iPhone was I was like oh I have to go back to like this weird junk it's just so weird cause like when Lou did that video at CES where he asked a bunch of creators what phone they're actually using a couple people I think might maybe was just one I don't know at least one person brought up iMessage and like all my friends are on I message and so I asked off-camera I was like why does that matter I mean yeah yeah I'm not sure yeah I'm like okay I didn't use it enough to actually you know have an iPhone is just really excellent branding because even at attack content creator and I'm not gonna name who they were but tech content creator tech tuber didn't know why he cared about iMessage it's just my my whole thing was it was very smooth it's I'd like the idea of text messages I like the idea of default apps I've always liked the idea of default apps I like default experiences I like a pixel because it is stock Android I would love to use the stock Android SMS thing but it's Garbo I still have to use it kind of because like my upstairs neighbors bless their wonderful Souls use old-school text messages and it's kind of jank for that and there are a few other people in my life that I have to use that for I use Facebook Messenger for a lot of my stuff but that sucks not only is it like scraping everything it uses a really odd amount of battery life it's terrible in a lot of other ways I've got people saying that it's a status symbol yes okay that's not why I like it but some people do see it that way if you pop up in the iMessage would be like I have an iPhone color like a positive thing I didn't even remember which one it was I use it for very short periods like I did know that I really liked my iMessage experience I texted more people when I was on an iPhone because I had iMessage and I texted less people when I was on an Android because I didn't have my message because the stock texting things sucks so bad I used to have something called go SMS Pro like a long time ago when texting was still really popular because the default Android messaging thing was so garbage that I gotta go SMS Pro but then something happened there I don't know what it was and they were bad I think I just hate everyone who has these problems because they clearly have social lives and I don't you know you're the one that wants you're the one that needs the like I know at those people the address-book know I know in in freaking messengers well I didn't say it's been often so many people okay it was so many but you need to look them up I can prove to you that it's like three ever actually well I'm at zero okay so you're winning by a lot speaking of zero that's how many new products will be developed by Oppo digital so this was posted on the forum by someone Nick the Majin Nick the major man whatever that is my gene very sad day op oh and this is Nick's editorial Oppel made the best video players on the market with superb build quality and fantastic customer support guess the market just wasn't there for the higher end product I love my UDP 203 and I hate to think that my next player will have to be made of cheap plastic from the likes of Sony or Samsung so for those of you not familiar Apple was a brand that I already couldn't understand why they existed back in like 2012 2011 so this when I was a product manager back in NCIX and one of my fellow product managers was gonna bring in these high-end DVD players and blu-ray players with the argument being that they had sort of fancy upscaling technology and and stuff and they were they were very expensive and I kind of went are you are you effing kidding me like DB like high-end DVD players that's that's kind of like that's kind of like trying to sell premium cassette tapes as far as I'm concerned for which I'm sure there's a market but oh they're totally in the okay let me come up with something better true wave how about like I think it's called retro how about like stylish dad sandals like okay I would you know and okay um working on this okay so there's a niche for almost anything but not for this apparently anymore synth wave or new retro wave they like cassette tapes okay so we've gotten past the point where anyone or at least enough people to sustain this company care enough about fancy upscaling features and better build quality on their physical media players now I do still buy blu-rays periodically because it is it does look a lot better than streaming but man is blu-ray ever going to get replaced like will there be a successor or are we just done I think we're done huh I mean it's at the point now where it's just people have kind of voted with their vault well it's they they want cheaper they don't want higher quality and it's gotten to the point where I think the cheaper option is so much cheaper that a lot of people don't think it's worth it so they're still going to be providing support and doing updates but I mean to be fair like a high-end blu-ray player I think is a little bit harder to explain the value of a lot of people are gonna yeah go with like their PlayStation yeah or whatever I sure would build a box 1s yeah exactly that's what I'm saying that a PlayStation doesn't oh no blu-ray player and the ps4 pro right didn't brilliant yeah but like yeah they I feel like they would go with what held on I might be I might have that wrong yeah I played a blu-ray and a ps4 Pro like a lot even a probe that run what is the stupid thing Ultra HD sorry that was the stupid thing that I had that it didn't have Xbox 1s has support for 4k blu-ray the ps4 Pro does and I was like wait a minute no no ps3 had blu-ray yeah that's pretty confused for that but yeah I think people use an existing device or they would rather go buy something that I can do a bunch of other stuff and play blu-rays instead of something that just plays blu-rays speaking of other things dead Intel's smart glasses group gone the glasses they were working on called vaunt looked kind of like normal glasses and used a low powered laser beam to be nuages into the eye so either intel is giving up on AR for a while or they figured they were never gonna get laser beams into your eye past the regulatory bodies that pay attention to that sort of thing which i think honestly both of those options are totally valid because I think how is this not a much more major topic well we're talking about this okay g4s partner program is well we kind of talked about it a little bit last week but it looks like it's official asus has announced the original article years from hot hardware you weren't here last week a week before I don't know okay areas Ares there is video cards no I read the article where it was rumored and I talked about it on wine show at some point okay but this is it it's official ROG is out for a Seuss's high-end gaming products that feature AMD processors so this is Ares which is a play on a Seuss's Ares with an S not as ed high-end like dual GPU and II Radeon cards that were like a limited edition similar to their Mars ones for Nvidia so just a summary for those of you who aren't familiar the program rewards partners with perks including marketing funds special promotions and extra engineering support and Asus has not gone on the record saying it joined the program but with the release of Ares it is fairly clear that Republic of gamers will only be used on geforce cards and other products containing an Nvidia processor duh-duh-duh intense have you seen this I have no idea what this is yeah it's just stupid marketing um so yeah speaking of stupid marketing junk that's it for the ranch oh yeah the marketing junk show no there's more to it than that I ate turkey for half of the show yeah I was gonna say we eat stuff they don't pay extra for that though and drinks and water it's just yummy yep cool till I see you again next week same bat-time same bat-channel bye I don't know what it is but like I didn't even check the time but it's been like exactly an hour and it's just something about the land show that takes exactly an hour I think part of it honestly is James has written it so many dogs now know John helped me this week oh yeah forgot floatplane dang it know what come back we're not--we're going back yeah back coming back like that after party but not after it's like a post party but no I'm gonna I'm gonna say that we didn't because we technically talked what at beginning the show but we didn't highlight the cool things that are on it so we also did here we go oh dang it I would probably yep just sec there we go hey I'm still here don't even I stop and start right like we're just still going nice my fingers are really mmm jerky though oh I'm not making it much better by licking them and then wiping them on my pants oh yeah yes AJ you completely saved the day good job all right let's see fi also I noticed that you logged on to battlegrounds at 258 local time so we're gonna need to talk on Monday but thank you for saving the day I appreciate it okay then ah screen sharing with - let's go ahead and put that there so what do we have up there oh this is a tech quickie that is actually a very unusual looking thumbnail for a tech quickie video interesting that's an unusual looking host for a tech quickie video actually John's done a lot of the hosting on tech wiki lately and the reception's been really good let's go ahead and go back see how that ico snappy that site isn't that beautiful hey here's how we're hiring video in case Colton gets fired you can't really tell but he's like cowering it's great okay yeah it's pretty wonderful ah this went up simultaneously because there was an embargo super no one cared hey about rising - really yeah it was it was not only not like a big momentum spike for the channel but it was like devastating yeah it like crushed the channel this one is gonna blow up on YouTube faster internet for free in 30 seconds and it works do you know about cloud flares DNS yes yeah yeah so we basically just show people how to change their DNS to a faster okay no that's cool I might say snappier well you know you know you know what um I won't I won't destroy my principles but I won't compromise my principles but I might I might be flexible technically you might be I direct I don't think it's too brutal I don't think this is far yeah that's fine self-driving car levels explain that to know they're fast as possible that's cool it's really cool because a lot of people don't realize that there's I think six levels something like that six levels like level four is not actually the end yeah so that's really cool the ThinkPad x1 carbon review is up oh I don't know I don't know how much Intel's gonna like this video Zeon W is basically that's fun core I nine with ECC and by the way here is pay another $700 please but it's it's still worth watching the video we go into it in more detail this video ended up being like pretty brutal I was thinking it was just gonna be me and Dennis kind of like racing to build a PC instead it was Dennis trying to build a PC at all this video is actually fantastic also AJ I know I'm just yanking your chain we we really mix things up a little bit oh my so we kind of work so I'm baking I'm baking a laptop cake that's kind of the idea behind it oh and these are all the things you want in a you know yeah okay and so the point that we're making is they went really far with this just cuz you have the right ingredients doesn't mean that you actually make a delicious cake Wow you might get a couple things wrong you know brutal so we've got the magic transition they're not beaten that beautiful Alex actually went and had a custom cake made for this video Dell XPS 2018 and we're gonna leave it there okay I haven't seen that I need to see that that's pretty good we've got the wearable keyboard and mouse yes so it's a both a keyboard and a mouse and it just fits on your hand like that I think we're getting into our that's I think yeah that's getting into the stuff that's already released matting yeah well also Kyle's on the platform yeah so he's got that probably went up on the embargo oh wow oh yeah okay I that's not fake no it's not that's real coolant it is that's a problem yeah so at some point we're gonna get this new button fixed so that you can tell the difference between stuff that's just everything everything is new everything ever upload is new everything is new the new website um new thumbnail genuinely there are some new things over absolutely no new comment slow playing calm someone new viewed it recently