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Vega Performance CONFIRMED.. in rumors - WAN Show August 4, 2017

2017-08-04
Wow so we left we came back and we're still so all day early yeah it's amazing we've with water that's quite good this is the earliest the land show has ever been yeah if we were super popular youtubers I would just smash this on the ground and then get tons of more views it's not a thing now that's the thing what why but we are just very not a bird we're just mostly popular yeah the whole Princess Bride mostly popular and ridiculously on time dad are mostly dead we're just mostly for mostly dead meme um so we are taking the longest long weekend of all - media group time - me except you we're taking Friday and Monday off so we decided to stream on Thursday so that everyone except Luke yep who works at a different company now yeah good for him the left in this case never never time off where it's bad for him yeah and you're working you're still working the Friday right yep Monday after Monday that's not even it not everywhere all right mm-hmm national holiday really half of my full time force is not in Canada right so there you go what national holiday is it I don't know it's something I don't know it's a stat though is it isn't it is it even have I been fooled by all the other staff I'm pretty sure - stat Canada - we're horrible Canadians ah good I'm pretty sure it isn't Good Friday hold on there 16 more rows look Oh God Valentine's how are Valentine's Day as them civic holiday what is the odbc day ah BC and then they all have like their own so that's why we don't know or good that doesn't get the day off but the ban oh hey I didn't realize that yeah yeah we're just literally all working not even national there you go so I can't take the day off because no one else is and that's stupid well I'd say it's rough but I don't have to like come to work so I can sit in like my boxers at home okay work on soleplate I'm sorry it's kind of like that's nice yeah so it's like it's uh it's like casual day yeah yeah except you can actually just have your junk hanging out oh yeah cool so it's like a very casual day okay so here's something that I want to know yeah and we'll get into okay hold on let's introduce no no we'll get into topics very important okay all right okay now we all know PC culture right okay right everything's politically exact now there's no you can't yeah I wasn't actually sure if you're talking about personal computer or politically karana corner I'm not going to ask obvious question okay okay and you can't discriminate based on anything that's something on my head but what if the persons are nudists what okay so if you have dress code if you had a cat but hold on hold on oh there's one okay look look if you had a casual Friday okay and you did not have a company dress code which we don't and somebody showed up naked and there was no policy in place is it discriminatory it's still technically a government sanction though is it well yeah because it's indecency oh it is yeah there's a law for that indecency yeah ah then there's the flippy back-and-forth II law thing where like certain like I in in most areas I think women can't have their tops completely off because you can't show your nipples but then in some places you're like on twitch yes but then I believe in Vancouver you can because of what's-her-face Linda whatever it was there's some like nudist protester who was always all over the place top and then they were just like whatever we don't care and then I think they gave up I think the same thing I think I'm not really sure ah there's other areas where it's okay okay okay I'll so like I think you'd be able to lie just have bottoms on in most places got it I don't know fascinating okay so we've actually got a lot of great topics for you today competition is great for the industry Nvidia claims 3x performance with a new driver update for the Titan XP I wonder what prompted that driver update just to be clear because I really hate when these things are vague because it drives me freaking insane it not really formats in specific application shot games AMD clarifies why thread Ripper uses four dies on the chip what else we got gtx 1070 killer killer RX vega 56 benchmark again like everything else from every other companies everything gets leaked because that's that's advertising right now hey Late Late all over the place oh my god I'm Purvis it's really odd so I wouldn't be surprised I actually I'm feeling pretty good right now ice water down the carnage it there you go RX Vega prices and bundles have been confirmed late confirmed leaks could whatever leaked firms welcome to the news firmly leaked and from time it's gonna cause some firm leakage on my side yeah I wish I wasn't drinking I wish you weren't drinking at work soon but what can I do about it casual progress madam drink ah you drink one yeah cool mother Griffith Sarge leaking jerky no that's not what it is no oh boy you know what this is going to be a fun show because it has a show it was a short week yes but it was already a hell of a week I shot my inverse fluoride cinemagraph this week those are cool what what are you doing okay so going on hopefully none of this is embargoed or anything but MSI actually sent a photo crew out here from like I don't know the the kind of director the art director was from Sweden and she was hilarious she was like the most stereotypically Swedish woman I've ever met looks like the hair in the like curly thing and the flower and freakin everything she was delightful and you know what she came with complete instructions and didn't fall apart in two weeks no three no go figure anyway um so so she had me they actually used a lot of our equipment which was cool made me feel very professional but like this like these things real this baller photo crew that travels around the world you know doing professional shoots and stuff was like oh yeah that's pretty good equipment maybe we'll use that they even roast our greens cream just pretty cool yeah so they had me set up in front of the green screen and they had me do like these like these little like actions like I was supposed to be like like looking off the body because the rest of the frame will be still and if you're not familiar with what if cinemagraph is intros really cool so I can try to pick them up while you yeah if you want to grab a couple is your screen sharing working yes Oh fantastic so most of the frame is still but then selectively there's a little bit of motion so it's actually an MSI here I'll flip over to so there you go so she's still the wall still but the but the bubbles blow which is which is pretty cool there's another really cool one um if you go down this one's really good this one's really good yeah so the mugs teams that everything else is everything else is completely that's not like like nothing in here would naturally move but it yeah not like it there's mostly no movement there's actually none except for this thing yeah so what's the post of the one in this one is I'm supposed to have the MSI infinite a gaming PC like hovering under my hand like some wizard wizard stuff and then I'm supposed to like look at it and then like slightly glance to the camera but everything about me will be maybe still or maybe they'll put a little bit of our movement to like be manipulating this like spinning PC and yeah I'm I don't know it was like an hour of it was an hour of shooting with just me and then they had like another two hours with the system and with they're actually going to do it in our workshop set so I'm not going to be in like some weird location or something so here's a here's another example I'm loading loading wow this is not a great way to go Twitter way to go Twitter but this is a razer cinemagraph yeah so the other is the guy doesn't move but like the colors change oh whoops run me except it just keeps like loading and freezing because yeah I don't know either Twitter or our Wi-Fi so it's like that but better yeah yeah pretty much sweet um but they're cool so that was fun what were you up to this week this week Wow Wow I hired someone I thought I got and then like didn't really get but maybe still he's gonna mess with you message me later a domain thing have you heard something about it not I heard from him he said he's gonna check his email but he hasn't done it yet so we'll see ah ah all right do you I was very busy but I'm trying to remember everything that I did figured out some weird stuff with some tax things figured out that maybe we have to go to America balancing the pros and cons of just straight up moving to Quebec so there's been a lot of it's been a lot of we will have to speak French no I can't stress this we'll have to speak round Larney they will hate you yes especially because my last name I will actually be lynched Anglophones that move over there and like straight up are like hello Bonjour I would like to order waffles Jose right they waffles like no they're gonna hate I'm going to have to I'm going to have to like get all my food delivered from Amazon or just buy it at Costco and literally never say a word I've gotten through certain foreign countries that way but it's like pretending I'm mute and just being like I know how all this stuff works and just like being obvious about things and then just never talking and just it works it's fine okay back nah ha ha ha oh man but like yeah ok seriously right now and there's some theories and a prime actually has a very L always a peak English you are stupid English people that dynastic yeah yes some of you do yeah if you go to Montreal sure but you make your way out into the burbs and it's a whole other story yeah so I've been looking through resumes and a very very large like 75 80 85 % of the strong resumes are from Montreal or Quebec or or Quebec City or Verdun or whatever there's quite a few different areas but it's all in Quebec to some degree a huge percentage of it interest and not even just programmers a lot of different talent that I'm looking for seems to be over there and run english-speaking ones are moving to the state got to make my times theory is the francophones don't want to move I hate her at a really long one so like like really good programmers from other parts of the country that are English means speaking right either like moved to the States right where everyone else moved to the space so they stay here and get paid Ludacris notes right fascinating all right yeah I don't know we recorded yes uh no you clean no we are actually very live right now we're thinking of spoofing you guys and yeah playing this on Friday and then we were like ah yellow whatever yeah all right so um should we do an actual tech topic here I mean we can I mean this one's pretty interesting math underscore settings on the forum was the original poster for this the tight typos those will be max settings yeah I don't even you know maybe it's like a maybe it's a Star Wars reference okay but isn't that Maz which doesn't make any sense but uh you know what just whatever ah did I just correct you on a Star Wars thing I have very much and very deep Star Wars knowledge I know none of it is canon anymore all right all right hot you want hot Rand Admiral Thrawn mare Jade fine colonel throat's cannon if you cannon yeah shut up he got brought back in oh hell yeah the new animated series rebels that is like if that that storyline grandma throne thank goodness because like out of all the like legions of Star Wars writers Timothy Zahn it's got to be ya know he's a super stoked right now because it's like a show about his character that's fantastic yeah and it's like actually really cool cuz it brings a more dynamic character in Star Wars universe did they somewhat stick to the I see I'm I like been watching a show so you haven't started it no okay got it and I'd know what I know that in there yeah okay okay alright and like okay I have heard from the writer that he really appreciates the depiction of his character so he must have stuck with how he was fantastic well I am soaked on that I you know what's another one that's okay that's all the books or Canon no they're super not um I would okay I will get back to tight next in a minute because is more important uh-huh you know what's another really great opportunity for first for for adaptations to film is have you read the tales from the Maus Eisley cantina no or cantina whatever it is convenient I think really good it's just a collection of short stories in fact I think it's from a bunch of different writers but there are some well-known ones like a Kevin so it's like and generally for Star Wars sort of it's it's the back stories of like everyone who's in there oh that's cool yeah how people know about like the doctor and stuff yeah because like I know some of like factoids but I had up that makes a lot more sense coven terrific or like what book would this be in yeah that makes way more sense yeah so it's actually like they're they're really good and there's such a variety from from short story he's in rogue one Todd no uh the the crazy doctor guy but oh yeah what's his face I got remember the guy whose I have the death sentence on 12 systems getting on your cell system yeah Mac PC box PlayStation 4 what are you talking about that has driven me crazy like and that that's the kind of stuff that I probably would have fixed in a special edition right right right but yeah fix one word and all of a sudden this sentence makes any sense that dude is in rogue one it's like a weird Ram you know helix slides past the screen alright and there's been some controversy there because like the town that they're in blows the hell up so everyone's like how did he make it or I guess no that's after yeah so it's no yeah so he must have gone there and then he died well he has the death sentence onto himself okay go back are taken care of but I'm oh yeah so I'm okay okay okay fine we'll talk we'll talk about this basically NVIDIA posted a blog post techniques P enables new levels of performance for creative professionals our latest driver available today delivers three times more performance and applications like Maya you can create and design faster than ever before and when you're done you can rip through battlefield one hundred frames per second the best part is it's available from Nvidia calm yeah that is what that's part um yeah not GeForce experience so it's also available there here's why okay while I appreciate the gesture this is why um no competition is a big load of bullcrap because Nvidia to their credit has actually done a reasonably good job with the technology available to them of iterating and driving graphics performance faster and faster and faster in basically the complete absence of any competitor over the last few years when it comes to gaming yeah where they have cut back and they had scaled back especially and to be clear I have my criticisms of Nvidia the fact that we now get each generation of GPUs as two generations of g-forces with but the second the cut down card as a flagship and then we get the real one as a next generation flagship okay so I've got my issues when I'm super frustrating which is frustrating clear but I understand the business reasons why they're doing it and it's not that bad they are still developing new GPUs even if that development is driven by professional use and the data center our title is LTX 2017 oh is it an IRA can you pick Serge you want I can show you just had a category room to news and talk ah Fridays at 30 Pacific ish yeah that's okay I'll just lead it and got Oreos talk shows hot shall we go bippity Boppity done thank you viewer okay remember the first tightening yeah was actually suitable for workstation use yeah so it was actually capable of less cut down FP 64 performance compared to the gaming cards it was more like a Quadro in that sense since then not only Titans but also Quadros have not had the same functionality enabled compared to their Tesla counterparts yeah and then in the case of the very high end Tesla GP 100 that melon has excellent high precision performance as well so this is basically Nvidia like rien locking something that they locked away because they didn't have to deal with it which is frustrating but also I'm glad that we have it like I'm happy it happened I'm but sad that it had this looks like a blatant response to Vega and the rumors around Vega are that regardless of gaming performance it looks like it's going to be a pretty powerful professional platform which is like weird but cool I can also see why they're doing it you know like we have a video coming soon about AMD's Vega based supercomputer so it's one petaflop on a single rack and I mean that is between like between mining and like professional like research use AMD cooktop Salmonella more common and you could probably sell every graphics card that could possibly make that's great which is which is which is great um because they need to because they really didn't um and I forget where I was going with that right so that's so bright so it's not a huge surprise to me that that's driving their design yeah it's just it hasn't been very common in in those style of cards yes alright so let's move let's do one more topic and then we'll descend the shower knobs and I'm kidding middle do ads so AMD clarifies why thread Ripper is using four dies so this was supposed to by Dyson on the form go ahead and pull this up cuz check that out there's ideal it'ld thread Ripper this doesn't make any sense because epic goes up to 32 course and also sits on a very similar package with four exposed dies like this if you were to delete it so why would thread Ripper also need four because it doesn't have an 8-channel memory controller like epic does so it wouldn't need the two memory controllers per die and it turns out that what's going on here is because thread refer only goes up to 16 course what we're actually seeing is two fully enabled dies and then two of them are just dummies right and the diagonal that's right so these are supposed to help spread out the heat load according to you know what will give us more better heat dissipation to our coolers or more evenly dissipate so instead it being on that diagonal that's kind of more around better for coolers a lot better for coolers and the other purpose of the two dies is actually structural so they prevent imbalance and allow for simple cooler mounting without any chance of damaging the CPU they are not active they're not like failed rising cores or anything like that they don't even contain working transistors so there's no hope of being able to like unlock them or some things they are just dummy course aimed II also didn't want to create a new socket for thread Ripper so they like found some ways to take benefit from having these dummy core things then you're like cool sounds good designing a socket is a fairly significant undertaking aside from electrically and it's really annoying yeah not not for AMD it's really annoying for everyone else there's this whole new platform new boards nothing whole new mounting hole you're not going to be able to transfer hardware as much it's not be harder to have stuff on hand if you're swapping stuff out in like a very high availability many server type of situation it's annoying for board partners you have to make more things now it's annoying for everyone on the entire stack yep and you know you look at something like USB micro-b that should give you some idea how hard it is to design a robust reliable interface yeah and so the fewer of those that AMD has to build the better yeah cool all right oh so sponsors yeah what do we got here sponsors oh really Coolermaster is one of our sponsors today Coolermaster featuring keyboards covered in dust because our entire warehouse has been under construction for the less yeah don't do that why don't you man yeah what is wrong with you or so the cooler master master cheese Pro 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say 10% at Savage jerky calm and I'll be eating this for the rest of the show sorry invest everyone which one did you have today ghost pepper all the girls ever is brutal yeah it's alright yeah yeah mmm everything's fine this one's really nice full blame um oh yeah what else but no I don't have it ready yet but we'll get ready for school first up we've got a leak that's right weakest has left the building entered the building and drew to this is supposed to by mr. troll over on the forum and the original article here is from tweak town AMD radeon RX vega 56 benchmarks have been leaked and it looks like according to the leak it may prove to be a gtx 1070 killer which would be good for them tillu 1070 is a very nice card is it a little bit too hot yeah but I'll get I'll get it didn't find that one like if you take it slow is really good yeah I'm gonna have some more after so battlefield one has it beating the gtx 1070 said six same thing doom apparently same thing and cod whatever i is an infinite infinite warfare okay i don't know why they benchmarking that but sure I'm sure okay anyway it looks like it actually looks like anywhere from ten to even as much as almost 15% faster some of those benchmarks so that would be great news for Team Red although I don't know how much stake and doing our stock to put in this as we know the price army 99 it is rumored to be 399 in fact we have all the rumors for Vega pricing and we will go through those in a minute Sal and okay how much is a 1070 right now let's see GTA mark about 450 450 yeah so the benchmarks were around at 1440p battlefield one at Ultra should fix it ultra with four times multisample antialiasing doom adultery with tsaa and it is rumored to be coming in at 399 now so yeah you can get 450 usually closer to like 470 480 intimate 499 that will be pretty killer we don't have a rumored release date though for though it for that I don't think so we'll have to wait and see when it actually shows up right out of their prices though we do have as well so this was posted by buck goth on the forum and this slide here leaked by WC CF Tech says that it will be available August 2017 and there'll be a Vega 64 a Vega 64 limited edition this we knew about this we talk about when we did our unveiling at LT X so that's with a brushed metal shroud and there will be a Vega 64 liquid-cooled oh what else we got here not just a lighter colored brush metal shroud on the liquid cool it looks like it it may not even be lighter right I don't know why I went so light yeah nobody does silver right now yeah it's like they want the reference card to clash with everything okay so here's the rumoured pricing the Radeon aqua pack which is supposed to include the liquid card with um what's probably with the rest of the equipment you need to run it I'm assuming I have to see what's rumored um no but I beg of egg Vega Vega Vega Vega spec specs box reference model so it's that $4.99 apparently for the 64 limited edition - 95 watt card wow wow you guys I do I do want to say if you can scroll down for a second whoa the liquid cool players appear in the reader and reason why wow Andy what are you doing over there buddy ah okay sorry what were you pointing at just the fact that this is just like a thing that's average now twelve point seven teraflops yeah that's crazy like I still remember when we like just barely past one and everyone was like holy crap Wow a teraflop on a GPU holy smokes so what else you got here for rumors so the bundles will apparently include discounts on select rising CPU and motherboard combos that's collect Samsung freesync displays and two game titles Wolfenstein 2 and prayed - that's really cool um the the game part is actually surprisingly less cool than the other one but would you pay an extra however much for a bundle oh wait no this is okay right the packs aren't rumored right we I've already made a video about that look I can never tell what I'm supposed to know I'm not supposed to know so I do know that okay but tell me this so what's your thought process under them can it love the first time I've heard it looks like the pack adds about $100 to the card versus if you were able to just buy it standalone but then what's the discounts on the other stuff the disc you pay an extra hundred dollars and you get a discount on other stuff but what's the discount because if I'm gonna buy all if any we get a hundred bucks off Verizon CT and motherboard combo or you get up to $200 off a free sync display so if I was gonna buy a monitor and that CPU in motherboard anyway then you're thrilled yeah but were you as an enthusiast I because the 64 version is only going to be available at launch with bundles oh really okay how does this bundles thing work our packs or whatever like what are you actually buying when you buy the pack you just pay a hundred extra dollars and you get discount cards yes what you just get like little paper I'm thinking it's a great idea to being super mad like like that it's amazing you just get like little paper discount cards or like in the middle or some digital yeah and presumably based on how promos like this typically worked at the retailer I used to work at you'd probably have to use it like right away okay so now what do you think that's just weird so the rattling now the consumer I would just wait until I don't have to do that anymore okay can I explain the rationale though unless for some reason I did want to buy that specific combination which might happen oh he's just now getting into PC gaming I could totally see that as a thing okay so the rationale is that they don't want coin miners to just snap them all up and if I had to guess I would say that this is amd's Way of punishing coin miners just charging them more since the value like the used second hand value of the cards will be higher than the fricking retail price AMD might as well take that money and those people won't care about monitors or games or CPU by the word bundles and so it's their Way of punishing miners and giving an even better deal is that anyone building a new PC is that crashing though crashing like miners aren't buying as many cards right now that's no I I'm not sure to be perfectly honest with you I don't know where the whole mining scene is at what yeah it's on the up again again all right well apparently mining is back so so so that's one way for like a week or two really really okay so now that you know that now what do you think I did it's just weird as I can see as someone who's buying a new computer I would look at that and be like especially someone who's not into mining and has no idea what it is I would look at this setup and just be like what the hell is going on and that's like the majority of the people they're going to be looking at this just to be completely honest right the majority of the people that are looking at this is going to go mining what or like I heard my friend talking about that why do I care just want to buy grass I just don't get it because like my kids don't have graphics cards so why do miners need all these graphics cards alright it like pretty high up there for bad in other news tape storage yeah media that just keep our lawn cannon oh yeah this was posted on the forum by WM groom aka the original article here is from ARS technica IBM and Sony have figured out how to cram 330 terabytes into a tiny tape cartridge sputtered magnetic layer lubricant and new heads an able 200 gigabit per second per inch density yeah per second I was like whoa man yeah that would be some fast tape you go so this is a yeah you know so this would be 330 terabytes in a palm-sized cartridge the world's largest largest hard drives by contrast which are about twice the physical size of the take are the 60 terabyte Seagate SSD or 12 terabyte Hitachi helium-filled hard drive pretty cool the largest commercially available tapes only serve up 15 terabytes so when it's eventually commercialized these new cartridges will be significantly more expensive because of the tapes complex manufacturing process likewise a new tape drive will be required but we'd only need like to to back up our entire petabyte project yeah because there's some redundancy it's not actually a petabyte of addressable space yeah all right this is kind of bummer this is posted by Morgan MLG Minh coffee lake so that Intel's upcoming rumored to be up to six core mainstream processors will apparently not not work that's that mute mute mute God will not work with VG 70 yeah yeah done yeah mind you this shouldn't be a surprise to anyone who's been following Intel's process your motherboard cadence over the last few years because V 170 MZ 270 same socket ok the chips that were can either work in both as long as there's BIOS compatibility usually two gems and it's usually two gems on the mainstream so and there was probably a significant reworking that was required in order to put a six core on the mainstream it is interesting the earth that right now it's not possible for people during the biggest war intel has had in a while because they haven't had a war in a while that both sides would have to upgrade their whole platform hmm because right now if you if this happened a year ago you wouldn't have had to upgrade your platform right Intel fans would have been able to buy the new chips buy the new six cards and that would have been the excuse I don't want to move to the other side because I'm just going to buy a chip not a whole ship and motherboard combo it can be way cheaper for me there's no way it's financially viable for me to invest in a whole platform now it's a whole platform versus whole platform hmm so normal cadence or not I think it helps AMD a lot that that's happening rumor though this won't help AMD if it's true by friendly non murdering sort on the forum that's good it's kind of a cool name ah the original article here is from guru 3d there's a rumored core i3 8300 with four cores and eight threads which would make it basically equivalent to like a 6700 K because it's finally clocked at like 4 gigahertz I don't know if this is just someone messing around with like Windows registry nonsense to get this to show up but it doesn't look like it because there are also um here what's wait no yeah it's all it's all windows captures so I'm not aware personally of a way to do that like off the top of my head but it seems like something that could be photo edit it like disgustingly easily but yeah this is according to screenshots on a Chinese forum I find this very hard to believe and I would think it's more likely for it to be some weird apparently a yes it's fake yeah yeah I uh super low res yeah it's pretty crap um but there you go there's a rumor oh we got featured on or second good hours technical which was pretty sick so I'm just wanna sell to congratulate over that neat and they wrote up a little kind of like write-up thing especially a summary yeah Jake thinks that we should have a written site to accompany our videos I disagree I think we went down that path yep and then we're like wow wow this is hard and there's no money in it yeah we discovered fortunately before we invested our whole livelihood in print online written websites yeah that that's a bad idea yeah um what else we got okay I'm gonna I'm yeah I got one more topic for you okay okay so let me picture Ewing let me pitch it to you while or things well okay let me pitch it to you while I while I go through the full plain stuff you can think about it okay so this is a new segment that I'm going to call what's worse so if you want I know I've already read it I know I know but I got I gotta get the media to continue hold on hold on okay so this kind of thing happens especially to some people but what's worse dropping your phone in a public toilet that's empty or in your own toilet after you peed in it okay now hold on in other news we have some exclusive content over on floatplane that you guys will want to watch yes tech quickie what's the difference between parallel and serial the fastest ultra wide gaming monitor but at what cost we can see thumbnails - wow wow that is a cancerous thumbnail look at it go um there's exclusive content mezzanine update number 12 almost there tech wiki why are PC video game ports is so bad so bad the worst LTT the brightest monitor we've ever seen Dells HDR display AMD let me build their new ad Vegas supercomputer which they actually did what else we got more exclusive stuff LTX behind the scenes vlog before the show opened loco machlin um what else we got here I think I think this one's live already I'm not sure July 28th no why is Hotel Wi-Fi so slow that's pretty good tech cookie Pippin apples only ever made console is still not on YouTube yeah that's still not on YouTube so we did a reaction to Apple's forgotten game console one of our longer videos mm-hmm yeah actually it's really long 16 or 17 minute form is one of the rare actually featuring loop videos yes yeah and I think there's one more that I'm missing because there's been a lot of simultaneous releases lately because yeah all the rise and thread Ripper and all the Vega and all that kind of stuff though yeah I think what goes up I think there's some good stuff going up this weekend we're going to have our unboxing from LTX of the razor toaster okay so if you guys aren't subscribed to floatplane already then i'll go ahead and copy that link into the video description for you because it's pretty sick early access better streaming video quality and of course it helps us keep this whole show going around here so thank you in advance okay so I don't think it's that simple okay of a question okay so do you need some clarification yes okay so the public toilet doesn't have any obvious like build up in it okay but it's a public toilet and you weren't what's again this is another hangout what's the water level because a lot of home toilets have a very high water level and a lot of public toilets have a very low water level the phone is submerged so in either case yeah the phone submerge you got a butcher you got to go you got to go above the wrist bone deep in either one it's an interesting question I think from from reading the twitch chat it seems like most people I could be totally wrong but when I looked at it it seems like most people were saying good strawpoll good idea you like most people were saying public toilet really because it's clean but I am naughty I actually disagree exactly and my big thing for it is very narrow amount of sources of bacteria and other junk compared to extremely wide range amount of sources other bacteria interesting so you're going full science on your answer here not just like oh I'm more comfortable with my own pee and my family's pee yeah versus like a lot of my own pee versus trace amounts of somebody else's pee a trace amount of a huge mix of other people's stuff right and more aggressive more resilient bacterias might still be in there for sure mm-hmm but that could also be true or saying all of your own toilet agreed but it still me it stuff that went through me as something around me it's just on my hand yeah yeah it's probably okay okay and I would do I would do the trick where you flush it first and then you grab okay and I would probably grab like a bunch of toilet paper and then grab it and blow the note wasn't even for the sake of argument you can't go get a rubber gloves like you have to toilet paper is literally right there you don't have like you don't have a lot of proof phone you have a pixel okay yeah you got to get in there and get it fast yeah I probably push it flushing happens really quickly yeah but flushing also circulates the water there's a worse chance of it penetrate membrane or gate drain to the puzzle so it's screwed because they use cloth liners in there like speakers and stuff instead of metal like most phones did you know about that now there's people that have like reached into here to try to clean out there like speaker grille thing and torn it oh that's a shame yes it's kind of a mess all right well we've got the results I'm really excited for the pixel - am i doing that review I have no idea I'm down most of you for her what if you flush your phone down whoa no you can't do that how big how tiny is your phone I'm very surprised all right well what do you think it's your question I'm going I'm going home toilet yeah I'm going pee home toilet why do um for me it's a purely emotional thing I don't have a scientific basis on touch other people stuff I just I I find other people's stuff so remember I'm coming at this as a parent part of my daily life is touching other people's pee and poo yeah so like my comfort level with that over the last five years has gotten a lot higher but like with your own crew but that's like with my kids yeah whereas someone else just like oh man that's yeah and like I at least know what the cleaning schedule of my own toilets is where it's like someone else's it could look clean but like might be clean just because like a lot of you have been going through there and they take the stuff away yeah like I don't know man so so that's run out on that that's run out on that yeah all right well thank you guys very much for tuning in we'll see you again next week same bat-time same no all right on the but on Friday let the proper time on the proper Channel this is the rob proper Channel yeah okay bye bye alright the intro outro are you surprised by results of that a little actually I thought people would prefer not to put their hand in pee water so that it's Friday maybe some Friday Friday gotta get down on Friday sometime take something for the weekend we can Friday Friday
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