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now my mama told me a lot of things growing up she said stand up straight if you have nothing nice to say don't say nothing at all and never kick him while they're down but uh I don't see my mama do you and that is why today's video is going to be about Walmart's overpowered 15.6 inch gaming laptop could it possibly be as bad as their desktop well there's only one way to find out isn't there and this video is sponsored by el gato the stream deck mini has six fully customizable LCD buttons with easy-to-use programming software check it out at Amazon or Newegg at the link below all right so my idea is we crack the books open see you know if it go then you think epic overpowered maybe hold on okay I gotta get serious what so spec wise we're looking at a core i7 87 58 of the six core processor gtx 1066 gig 16 gigs of ram 256 gig SSD 1 terabyte hard drive 144 hertz 1080p display RGB backlit mechanical keyboard and Windows 10 I mean on paper like specifically this paper right here this ticks pretty much all the boxes with the only issue being the price so we ordered this actually at around the same time that we ordered our desktop but it didn't arrive until quite recently because they screwed up our order and when we went to pick it up the laptop just wasn't there with our order and it was only because we checked before we left the store we did in-store pickup that we were able to point out that hey the $1,400 laptop we ordered ate here dawg so it comes with an external power brick that's kind of big but also not too thick so I guess that's nice a QuickStart guide a connect AC adapters Jack into other more different Jack B the display panel can be opened to a wide range of angles for optimal viewing C press the power button all right so this laptop actually arrived in sysprep mode and there was no bloatware installed whatsoever same as with the desktop really so they've got their control center but that's it that is the most hilarious animation look at it but game who thinks that's a good idea I mean it's the same kind of thing you'd have with a normal program they just it doesn't have like an acceleration curve it's just like for those who don't know it's called disruptive innovation okay so you just got disrupted so in the opie control center you can turn on and off your LED light bar which is right here it's RGB you can turn on and off your keyboard backlight you can well you can turn off the internal display oh crap now what you can do a bunch of different keyboard effects you can alter your fan settings so office mode or gaming mode it was in gaming mode by default there's also a turbo mode whoa you know as far as system bloat goes this is really not bad however as not bad as it might be this is just a skin what is this what are they doing there's no way that that is not programmed in so what was what was the intent yeah destructive innovation I told you Oh peel ejected one can say that he appealed was not too appealing one can but one shouldn't okay what does this mean tap tap twice hey there's a little light in the touchpad so when you tap this corner twice it enables or disables the touchpad so to Walmart's credit here there actually are a fair number of features you know whether you buy into the RGB hype or not that are specifically tailored to gamers as for the overall sort of build quality the machine I would describe it just from sort of a fit and finish standpoint here as average at best but certainly not the worst thing I've ever seen and spec wise but 144 Hertz display is not immediately disappointing to me not super-bright or anything but it's not super dim either like nope okay stop that hey stop that so moving stuff around quickly on-screen there's pretty good clarity even during fast movement so yeah it's not a CRT or anything but for an IPS panel that's not bad what do you think of the mechanical keyboard you know it has a mechanical keyboard according to the specs oh oh oh that's stupid so the old peak Control Center is not tied into the keyboard brightness adjustment over here so if you turn it off that is so cringe to see if it's actually mechanical we actually pried one of the key caps off here and yeah it does appear to be so we've got our metal contact piece here that seems to be what makes the key itself actuate so it actually does actuate before it bottoms out but the issue is that it's almost like they implemented this feature without a clear understanding of why or what it is about mechanical keyboards that makes them good for gaming because we've got kind of a very heavy feel towards the top of the key press and then they're quite mushy after that so there's no real clear advantage over just a short travel scissor switch for example how do you feel about the numpad I think it's a little too cramped so I like that they're using all the space that they have here for keyboard like they're going almost edge to edge keyboard which is nice like the keys are quite big but I I kind of questioned the wisdom actually not just to this one but of our other contestants as well of including a numpad a gaming laptop like what do you plan it like an accounting simulator like EVE Online okay that's what I said hey hey so for IO we've got USB to Ethernet audio dedicated microphone jack that's kind of nice to see over here we've got two USB 3 s an SD card reader and then oh wow that's not bad a USB type-c which is over with our display outputs HDMI and then two mini display ports that I guess is because they figure people will use it as a display out more than as just a USB port that's sort of an interesting thought and actually a lot of ventilation heat sinks here here here and here and then basically just wide open mesh across the bottom but it still actually has a reasonable amount of structural rigidity down here it's not bad you could crack it open all right sue Minter we can put the thing back together should be fine do we have a parts tray or anything that we can kind of use as a proxy - what so I thought we were ready to go but they've got a warranty void if remove sticker Oh what shall we address the so it uses a similar approach to the LG gram now with LG they were saving weight by using a main board and then daughter boards with these ribbon cables connecting them but whether it was a cost or weight savings they've ended up with a really interesting internal layout so without increasing the thickness of the device it makes extra room for higher profile like thicker cooling fans and heat sinks and stuff like that because they're not fighting with the PCB for space and then we get a similar effect over here for MDOT to drive now it should be noted that this is not an nvme SSD so this is just a regular SATA SSD just in an MDOT two form factor you can see though if you wanted you could put a PCIe one here or you could put a second piece yet you one here but not another say - MDOT - it's why you got to watch out for this compatibility they could have just expanded the battery capacity because this is pretty kinky you know and that is actually a perfect segue into how exactly it is that Walmart best known for good prices on you know bathroom paper got into the laptop manufacturing business I thought and I would have I would have put money on it that what they had done was rebranded a laptop unit from the company clavo who was well known for supplying other brands with their manufactured laptops but I was wrong so to whom do the we owe the pleasure of inspecting this laptop well I'm putting it back together here this is the ODM known as tong Fang Tong sang I've never even heard of them neither have I up until one two days ago and apparently turkish reseller monster sells laptops based on this exact bear bone which is known as gamma kilo 5 charlie noob 6 is xaviar am i supposed to have heard of that like is that supposed to add credibility or wants to does the fact that Origin PC use the same C I had thought that Origen just used clever like I thought everyone just used clavo to be perfectly honest I wasn't aware of these guys at all like Sager eurocom Origen I thought it was just all clever rebrands but then there's this sorry what are they called again don't know pain Tong Fang company that I've hardly ever heard of I say hardly because I have technically heard of them in the last three minutes here so here's the thing this approach of basically rebranding what someone else has already built has advantages like allowing a company like Walmart who has no experience whatsoever designing computers to just jump right into the market with a product that might have some flaws like this keyboard is very imperfect but is otherwise balanced ly SPECT and very functional the disadvantage is that it's hard to differentiate yourself so Ivan mentioned that Origin PC also sells this model can you spec out an identical config to this on Origin and how much does that cost us bear in mind we paid fourteen hundred US dollars for this now based on our previous experience where by you know dealing with origin PC you know that $1500 gaming system that they sent us not guess how much this conflict would cost origin PC specs out to be pretty much same as this - one terabyte how much $1400 so identical to what Walmart was charging except that with origin you get to have origins customer service which in secret shopper we have established it was at least sample size of - I guess but was excellent and you'll have the confidence that down the line if you need help with your system origin PC will probably still be in the PC business whereas with Walmart I'm not sure if that's so clear either way origin did not score well in value which leads us to the question is origin going aggressive on their laptop pricing or is Walmart enjoying origin like markups yes well yeah it has to be one of them that you've probably been asking yourself why do you have these other laptops on the table you'd be asking yourself a good question so when we bought it this was $1400 but in the time that it's been sitting on our shelf Walmart implemented a roll back to only eight hundred US dollars for this thing so over here we've got an $800 Nitro 5 from Acer rocking a core i5 8th gen and a gtx 1050 TI and then over here representing the $1400 price point we've got an asus rog i think this is a scar or something it's a last gen processor but in terms of gaming performance it should be quite similar and the GPU is a gtx 1060 so in Cinebench or whatever it won't perform as well as the current gen version of this but in games it should be basically identical so let's go ahead and fire up our stress test here and make sure that you know there's not any egregious thermal throttling issues or anything like that were you expecting this to be clocked like 300 400 mega her slower than the Asus model according to what I research in Prior this laptop does have thermal throttling issues runs hot but we cannot hear it at all perhaps is because you set it into like desktop mode in I didn't be the center oh I was on battery well wait so that means then any way that a Seuss's on battery performance profile is much more aggressive I'm still in better yeah let's take a look how much battery is left because they were only before the same time an hour and 14 minutes 60 percent remaining 38 percent remaining so they're both terrible oh there we go 150 165 fps so they've been running long enough to reach equilibrium now bottom line is this guy clocks in anywhere from 80 to a hundred megahertz slower than this one and the performance cap reason given by GPU Z is power for both of them but our over powered laptop hits this cap more frequently they're both around the same temperature with this one coming in at around 71 degrees we have to stop it for a second here because I had a microphone issue don't worry about it anyway 71 degrees and this one at 74 with the over powered being about as loud maybe a touch louder let's see how it goes in actual games though so performance wise it is already falling behind the Asus machine but by like 2 to 4 FPS here and there and it is way ahead not just in terms of fps but also just in terms of playability like with how dark this display is it's really hard to make out details in the shadows and there goes the power outage that we were sure was probably coming at some point today oh boy winds peaking at a hundred kilometers an hour blasting trees and knocking down power lines a houseboat adrift after being torn from its moorings BC Hydro warning that some homes and businesses may not get their power back for days so I'm gonna make my best attempt at an Ivan joke so you might say that the laptop was so opie that the power went out no I would usually kick you into like you know this laptop was so full of a penis so we had to throw out the results we were getting last time because they all switched to battery power in the middle of the run we'll be back with you in a moment here so this is interesting our similarly priced nitro 5 comes in at just 2/3 the average frame rate of our overpowered machine and with other significant well disadvantages as well including a weaker CPU as well as a worse screen but then moving up into the original pricing of our overpowered well it wasn't really that competitive because due to the faster clock speed of our GPU over here we still ended up with higher frame rates even though this one has an inferior CPU so this one is I think the official MSRP is actually 1600 but you can find it for about 1400 on Amazon just to validate what I was saying before we popped out of the game and had a look at what core clocks we were running at during the benchmark and yes in fact the overpowered machine is running at anywhere from 50 to about 80 megahertz slower on the GPU in actual games last result just came in for Deus Ex mankind divided and this is interesting so average frame rates again our $800 machine like true $800 machines way slower than our rolled back $800 machine and that one it falls a little bit behind de Souza's particularly in the minimum frame rates interesting let's do one more game so I'm sitting in the 130 140 FPS range what are you sitting at right now 160 150 160 so when we're running into a CPU bottleneck we can see here that our core i5 8th gen is actually not that far behind so we're running at 1080p and all high with 16x anisotropic filtering so ok so only about 20 fps difference now let's take our 2 $1400 gaming laptops man that high refresh rate display makes a big difference holy crap so not only am i lower than last time but the Asus machine is absolutely crushing it it's well over 200 frames per second 240 let's hear that me spend the same spot it's like 80 FPS higher did you know this was gonna happen nope so there's clearly some power management or some kind of profile issue going on here so here I'm not gonna have a task manager running in the background let's make sure that you don't have extra background crap running how will we know life isn't it kind of well I just want to know what the frame rate is cuz honestly that's when I do you think effect think not much but it's a little bit I think it can use a couple percent yeah but not to know this is like I tell you what this both have it open here fine what's sucking up all my memories csgo is using one point three only that doesn't even make any sense I know what it is no it's not what the hell okay well then goes family your thumb yeah but they're both single channel and this one's running faster that's only 2400 megahertz what is going on here okay let's just go ahead and lunch the game so let's make sure we're running the same settings though okay it's all the same so let's go back let's try again snowballs so I'm back up to like 160 like we had on our first run I just I mean I also want to just kind of feel the experience because to be clear even if it runs at a lower frame rate than that one it's only got a 144 Hertz display like it's so I'm still at 130 140 150 90 180 down but I'm getting shot and you're at really okay so why don't we stand here and smoke this doorway so I'm at 140 and you're at 170 honestly I think we're ready to draw the conclusion at this point compared to another $1400 laptop with some of the weirdness that we've encountered I wouldn't take the overpowered with the keyboard being honestly the biggest issue for me personally because I do do a lot of typing with that said compared to an $800 laptop this is crazy because I am about to recommend a Walmart opie gaming device because compared to what you get for 800 bucks this absolutely mops the floor with it both in terms of the features like the 144 Hertz display and in terms of the performance at anywhere from nearly double to about 50% better so that just happened that just happened right now but only because they rolled back the pricing so you heard it here first folks get them while they're hot and 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