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ladies and gentlemen boys and girls welcome back to the man show it's been another week which means you have to sit through another win show that is to say you want to sit through another Rancho because no one is actually forced to sit through the wine show except Luke and you and me yeah yeah have you heard this song there's this I didn't think about it until you just did that intro there's a someone made an electronic song recently using like our voices as some of the lines in the song and he intros the song with you entering the wine show no I have not heard the song he tweeted it your personal account you should oh okay I haven't actually looked at my personal Twitter inlay I suspected kind of as much probably a couple of weeks oh so we're just linked it in chat apparently people nice okay give me just just a note here I gotta get logged into floatplane so I can see our floatplane peeps one of the things one of the things we're gonna talking about this week is YouTube's copyright being kind of kind of craziness yeah but actually a fairly positive story from it at least turn around so there's a there's a couple of actual two so I was really what I was wanted to do was explain the difference between a Content ID match ending copyright strike okay because there seems to be a lot of confusion and there was that a Content ID match there was a significant well it depends which controversy you're talking about because there was a controversy we were wrapped up in oh yeah I didn't know this yeah so well we'll get into that a little bit later writing and then in terms of other topics James has been busy shooting the monoprice gaming battle station video with me for the last couple of hours so he's done very little actual preparation of the land show documents today some stuff but there is some stuff Activision Blizzard laid off 800 people just like what 10% of their staff 8% excuse me pardon me so spending as far as I know very good profits yep so we'll talk talk more about that later and what else we got a European link tax language has been finalized linked taxes so YouTube's copyright enforcement is probably gonna get more complicated as opposed to less complicated if all of that stuff goes through so this is closely related to the article 13 controversy that was going on a couple of months back the 13th stuff is still going on oh yeah yeah very much very much still a thing this is just sorry I mean it was it kind of reached a fever pitch my article 13 pitchforks are pretty important for me so keep them up if you wouldn't mind yeah if you want to make Luke's job not like phenomenally way more difficult it's gonna the biggest problem in my opinion even though I'm trying to become a platform I still think the biggest problem in my opinion is for creators because it's going to increase the wall for creators coming into the market it's going to make creators lose their jobs because it's going to be harder for the platform's gonna cost more for the platform's to support themselves I think it's gonna be harder for the creators so we'll talk about it in more detail later for the intro I saw this coming and I don't know why the way you said the intro is like he's not gonna click it right away don't know what no idea honey the guy's the best boss respond it's like if I'm them I'm like I don't even know alright alright so the first thing I want to jump into is actually the you were gonna do Wow we're gonna do the title topic right now yeah it's amazing this has never been done before probably first in a while um so I'm gonna I'm gonna try and find it on the forum I'm not logged into the forum there's reasons for that basically security security privacy reasons for that yeah but it just makes it harder for me to find this particular thread bla bla bla bla bla bla Oh seriously oh man what was what was the search term I think it had I'm pretty sure it had strike and Linux in the threads somewhere so let's go ahead and let's go find that pattern actually do we wanna do we want to talk about the you know let's talk about what happened to Kyle Kyle one yeah so Kyle's Kyle's our bud you know what we'd be we'd be on Team Kyle regardless of you know whether he was right or not just kidding we wouldn't actually if Kyle was wrong we would say he was wrong we have that kind of relationship we'd be like Kyle and Lyle y'all are both wrong so y'all need to just back down you know anyway so here's what happened I should preface this by saying it has been resolved yeah so here's a tweet from Kyle from two days ago good news and update my counter notification to Vox his claim was reviewed by YouTube in my favorite the reaction videos back up so a couple of months back Kyle posted a video on his bit weight YouTube channel also on Flo plain reacting to the Verge's should we call it a don't see building guide it also never came off of flow plea but yeah that's a whole separate conversation you'll get to that later yeah so to the Verge's pc building guide that was just phenomenally poorly done like it turned into just a instant legendary level mean you don't use tweezers and a Swiss Army knife to build your computer and I never wear a LIVESTRONG bracelet computer wearing a computer building a computer just contained a ton of at best dubiously correct information and hope your computer case has rubber feet below the power supply or else you might you know you might get shocked yeah it was bad it was really really poorly done anyway so he went into this character that he calls Lyle because fun fact kyle is half asian which i actually didn't know until one at one point I'm super tactful we're like at dinner I'm like so what ethnicity are you cuz I could I just couldn't tell in fairness to me he's mixed so it's not like I was you know if I was gonna guess you know pureblood anything then I was gonna be wrong regardless okay yeah anyway he's like no I'm half asian like oh okay cool anyway so that's why he's allowed to do this character which for anyone else to do would be incredibly racist so he's this sort of he has this kind of heavily Chinese accented Lisle character that he uses to kind of provide broken English feedback on various things in this case he did a reaction to the Verge's PC building guy it's actually very funny no offense to anything else kyle has ever done but it was by far the best video he's ever created bar none I mean it helps that the source material that he was working with was comedy gold absolutely and he all he had to do was platinum plate it and it was just like yeah wow this is just this is quality and if you're good it is back up on his YouTube channel or it never went off of his flow page yes thank you for bringing that up to the second time kind of know whatever your name is like I got you yeah that's that should be your alternate character kook I don't know what accent you can do that nothing politically correct for sure yeah okay so in the day so let's go back in time again in the days following the verges original upload there was just massive backlash throwing the see building community we mostly I think stayed out of it I think we posted a couple tweets just a tongue-in-cheek but lots of people quite a few people posted like video responses there were some pretty there was some pretty in-depth discussion on our forum about it just because it was so bad anyway the verge stood by it for a while that was weird which was what made it far worse if it just said hey we were wrong cuz they honestly rather than make fun of them my first outreach to them was some hope do you guys want to collaborate to take another shot at this and I and they just never replied so they never replied to just an earnest offer of help and then they doubled down and the the the the creator of the video in particular said some pretty stupid stuff on Twitter I don't remember any of the particulars because it was a while ago but just basically defending it like oh yeah well you know we fixed those things after the video like don't call it a guy yeah it's not a guide if it was broken at the end it was like actually problematic because it was a guide yeah which which added a lot of problem it wasn't like hey I'm building a computer you want to watch it was this is how if they had made mistakes in the context of doing like an IRL twitch stream yeah which we saw very recently uh everybody has to everybody does something for the first time and doesn't do it perfectly at some point believe it or not like if you've ever watched me do anything related to my car you'll know know what's up I don't think you have but it's bad it's a bad scene I'm better that kind of stuff yeah we're like watching me use tools I mean you wouldn't know you're just as bad as me but I use a lot of them for the first time with you remember they steer with the tape the tape protection it's a good thing we both still have both of our eyes yeah so so what made it worse was just not acknowledging the problems and doubling down and then making it even worse than that here we are these months later so Roy was kind of forgotten yeah the verge did eventually pull their video yeah not before they like hid the like/dislike bar hid comments like they tried everything to keep it up but eventually they were just like yeah this is probably a problem and pulled it down then what happened is earlier was it earlier this week what's the actual date on this ah February 12th February 12th they issued a copyright strike so they issued a DMCA takedown request for Kyle's video so not only did Vox media the owner of the verge yeah go and have the video removed from their own channel which is well within their right to do and probably for the best they went out and they submitted a takedown request for Kyle's video now here's the problem with that were you keeping track of what was going on with Ethan Klein and that reaction video that he posted that he ended up taking all the way to court it's been a bit but I watched the the I watched all of the lawyers videos on watch this video sorry for those who some people take three oh yeah yeah yeah so anyway Ethan flying h3h3 yeah anyway yeah so so what happened there and I'm a little rusty on the details but but basically what happened was HTH we used to upload a lot more just kind of what do I call them they like like watch a video and like cringe on it like yeah reaction like takedowns like just like bait where they just kind of crap on the original video creator and so what happened in that case and I forget what the name of the of the person who issued the takedown was and it doesn't matter because screw that guy we're not gonna talk about that guy who'd cool but he got upset because Ethan was mean to him and in his defense Ethan was pretty mean and it was like back then used to be pretty brutal yeah like just kind of unnecessary but I guess it gets you so cool um anyway he got mad and he was like well hold on a second Ethan's video contains a ton of my copyrighted material I should be able to DMCA takedown that because it's got my content in it the issue is that there's a little thing called fair use so Ethan's defense was we'll look this is fair use because I am critiquing it I am so there's four there's basically four fair use factors so you can use someone else's copyrighted material as long as you can you can defend your sort of fair use use of it now the problem is that fair use is a really gray and nebulous part of copyright law it's not as simple as like if you meet criterias X Y Z and Omega you qualify as fair use and there are some guidelines so you'll notice for example I forget what the actual number of seconds is but news shows will often limit the amount of source material that they use to like ten seconds or something along those lines but that's not the law cuz like it consider if you just posted like a half hour video that someone else made and every 45 seconds you win good that's not really transformative that's not really like not really review so like yeah where is the hard line it's a very hard line to actually yes so so there's there's a number of things there's the amount and the substantiality of the content that has been reused so that's why news programs will take like ten seconds because then it's not the whole thing's pretty easy to argue there's the purpose and character of the use does it have its own purpose for existing there's the nature of the copyrighted work so if it was something along the lines of a let's say an instructional video and you were to go ahead and take each step of the instructions have it be up on screen running in its entirety and go that seems like a good idea like kind of like what Luke was saying then that would sort of affect whether or not that would be considered fair use and then finally there's the effect upon the works value which is closely related where if I were to create this my video commenting good job original video creator every once in a while while it plays would that affect their ability to monetize that content probably so you so you can end up with a really solid fair use argument for utilizing all kinds of content like movie review channels rely heavily on fair use because in a lot of cases they'll have five ten fifteen minutes of unedited like Hollywood movies playing on the channel but the reason they can get away with that is that they are reusing it for the purpose of critique they are commenting on it and it doesn't affect the ability of that Hollywood studio to monetize that content because no one is watching that review and going oh I have fully enjoyed all the nuances of the editing cinematography soundtrack acting and story it's not like that yeah so it's highly transformative it's for critique or review which is generally pretty well protected by fair use the nature of the copyrighted work here is movie so that's very separate from how it's being used and it the effect on the works value is arguably very little now the problem with all of that is it's all grey and fair use rather than being just a hard-and-fast law is an argument that you have to defend in court so if someone issues a DMCA takedown the only way to dispute it if you say no this is fair use and they say um actually it's not is to take the to court and have the courts agree with you so now this has been a very long story we're finally coming back to the issue with h3h3 s critique video of this weird guy's video that he uploaded that was done he won basically so even though he had uploaded almost the entire original video and was just kind of interspersing his reactions to it that was still considered critique and it was still considered transformative a reaction video was deemed to be original content even though it was heavily dependent on the original copyrighted work alright so how does this figure into Kyle's thing basically Vox media pulled a full douche move here and issued a DMCA takedown for what has been maybe not proven but at least preliminarily tested by the courts to be a fair use rebroadcast of a copyrighted work and the only reason I can think of that they would do that aside from just just being embarrassed and acting out of sort of like initial knee-jerk reaction which they clearly didn't because it's been a couple months been a while yeah is either because they are ignorant of this sort of pre-existing case or because they are just trying to bully and intimidate a much much smaller outfit into just not disputing it because they're afraid that if they do dispute it the next step is court fees neither of those are great and honestly I mean I can't I can't speak to the mindset of the executives at Vox media or whoever it is that ultimately decided to do this but my gut feeling is that they were just going peer intimidation factor because I can I can tell you guys as someone who was a much smaller yet like we're at a point now where if someone came after us like an h3 we could say okay see you in court buddy fine that's it's gonna be how it's gonna be let's do it stance but there was a time when we weren't and I remember getting these kinds of you know strikes or Content ID notices and being like is this it is this the end of this company because that's what it would have been it's really scary it's absolutely scary and it's been happening to people where it has resulted in being at the end of them in regards to being a content creator so he's on that platform basically currently the verge has an official response do they really yo know Yolo snail I do not think we have seen their roof oh I would love to see do you want to fire that up while I go ahead find it yeah yeah I was gonna finish up a couple thoughts so so basically this leaves the the the DMCA takedown system open to abuse by copyright owners who just want to in some cases just remove something that they don't like so here's one pewdiepie got copyright strike by because a twitch streamer took offense there was one youtuber who was extraordinary that's funny even not through YouTube's system we had some copyright holder for some like classical sheet music in Germany come after us demanding I think it was like $10,000 or something stupid like that for a song that we used in a video that was actually from YouTube's music library this is a couple years back a few years back and I was super upset because I was like okay I don't really understand how this works in international music copyright law crazy complicated because they're separate copyrights for the performance for the original sheet music and and I was like I was looking at it going well this is this is ridiculous because I'd be happy to pay some kind of fee because yeah we did use the sheet music but ten thousand dollars or whatever it was like that's extortionate like we we made a fraction of that off the Adsense of the video and the sponsors that we insert it into it how can you possibly expect me to pay you more than I made well then you shouldn't use the song in the first place ultimately we just didn't pay because we kind of figured some Rando holding company like copyright holder in Germany what are they gonna ultimately do to us like fly their lawyers out here and make come on you gotta be kidding me and they didn't end up following it up but we were again we were in a position where we could afford to take that risk you want me to go ahead and screen show you sure all right it's basically a big wall of text so there isn't a ton for you guys to look at but what they're saying is the legal team Vox media's legal team who was very diligent and protective of their work was made aware of some PC video reactions stuff and fire did not meet our standards and had oh oh oh that's sorry uh so they pulled their stuff okay yeah okay I misread that cool yeah yeah I know that comment was actually totally fine apparently it was it was two videos as far as I know said those two videos used 90% of our footage without any edits cuts or other transformative use and one of particular is featured what our legal team felt was a pretty racist character okay necessarily disagree with that but it's also like none of your business but he didn't edit their footage but I think in reviewing footage that's probably the more respectful thing to do and he cut himself in which is probably exactly what should have been done anyways there was also a complaint I don't remember exactly where they said it of where everything could have been avoided if they just reached out to this person how would I know to reached out to nyle a patel yeah okay and besides here's something you know what no hold on a minute okay nyle e why didn't you reach out to Kyle if you had a problem a lot of times to be completely honest and you don't want to use it all that often but being a creator sometimes Twitter is like one of your most useful things yeah because things don't get done and then you tweet about it then it gets done very fast or better yet you could just a guarantee Kyle has an email address on it YouTube channel that you can use to email and 99% of the medium-to-large creators that I've been made aware of do have such a thing I'm just I'm curious now but anyway I'm gonna throw it back on your screen so you're sharing yeah so the specific quarter but that part is I want to address a situation around some YouTube copyright strikes since since retracted which is true as far as I know issued by the verge and Volks media that have gotten pretty toxic and could have been avoided if the parties involved had simply reached out to me directly again there was the 90% of our footage without any edits cuts or otherwise transformative use and one of them featured a particular that the legal team said was a particularly a racist character again I don't think anyone in any form of review would want to edit the original footage I don't think that's the point at all how Kyle does not have an email on his YouTube page he does have an address though and he does have his Twitter so yep you're right Twitter would have been the way to go here alright pretty easy I bet you Miley has a Twitter YouTube notified the two channels in question said said there was a chance our requests wouldn't make it through and our legal team asked our legal I was looking for their cases our team made the case YouTube agreed the videos were not for Houston issue the strikes when this was brought to my attention a few hours later I told them that although I fully agreed with their legal argument I did not think we should use copyright strikes against legitimate channels even if we thought the videos crossed the line and again I fully agree with our legal team that these videos cross the line of fair use so basically they Wow okay so basically they haven't learned anything yeah so here's the thing whether or whether or not like it does this does this post actually say that their lawyers felt like the character was racist because that has nothing to do i oh it does but i don't think that was a reason for the action okay so i don't think it actually applies it does say that our legal team felt this was not fair use and oh yeah ah those two reactions okay which are legal what our legal team felt was a pretty racist character yeah but you don't get to you don't get to just let your personal sensitivities get involved in a legal issue you know so whether or not it's fair use actually doesn't really have anything to do with whether you like the character being portrayed or not yeah also I mean there's a whole there's I mean we could have a whole conversation that I'm it's probably best that I personally stay out of about whether or not it's a racist character if the person happens to be of at least partially the race that they are making fun of I mean are you gonna tell me that like a Jewish comedian is not allowed to make Jewish mother jokes for example are you gonna are you gonna say that it seems pretty it seems like kind of a dumb thing to say what does have strong evidence in here of straight-up screenshot emails is technically in here it doesn't say because he blurted out his email which is or her sorry I don't actually know who this is but it blurred out their their email so I'm not a hommerson sure it was them but that doesn't matter it looks like someone from a at Vox Mediacom email account retracted the copyright infringement so it wasn't YouTube that agreed with Kyle it was clearly someone from Vox retracting the claim okay hold on a sec Meridian in the chat I got to disagree with you an Asian faking an accent of another Asian that can't speak English in the normal way is just as racist as if a white guy did it lulz but that has nothing to do with legality here it's actually not racist is to do with race making fun of someone's accent yes it's rude it's really rude yeah but there's but it's not race yes with yeah without art yeah so let's just let's just make sure that we're not getting our terminology wires crossed here it's not accent as where you're from yes or in some cases not even yeah cuz you could make my wife is not from most assuredly speaks with a westcoast Canadian accent like where you spent your formative years most of what to but to say that it would be like yeah again the strikes were retracted at my specific instruction that seems to be true not through any YouTube dispute process also seems to be true the verge has written many times with the problems of YouTube's copyright enforcement mechanism and I do not think it works well enough for us to use it in cases like this ok one thing I did not do was tweet about it because I didn't think the nuance of this situation would lend itself to tweets and are we still reading this garbage sure oh and also quite honestly because I didn't think it was a big deal there were strikes and strikes were retracted I assumed everyone would move on well this article is not making it better just just if you want my two cents and just we don't sending us wait wait hold on if we have these words on screen is this pure use get the words off the screen not a racist character there but oh we got it we got a big problem there but I think the problem is you're just 10 ply button Oh nobody oh jeez yeah oh man I guess ok we're done here I mean we can be reading it out directly is probably gonna be I don't know who knows okay so what I was gonna say is that there were strikes the strikes were attractive things yeah yeah but they weren't retracted immediately and they were retracted very quickly I will 100% give you that if you're watching what you're probably not but they weren't retracted immediately and strikes or a direct attack yes on someone's income and stability three strikes and you're out Kyle just bought a house yo he certainly did Gary and strikes also immediately affect your channel one strike can't live stream yeah just like that like it's it's it's a big problem it's not okay yeah that's a that's it's an attack it is straight up an attack and the other thing too is that there are alternatives to copyright to DMCA taking down something that don't result in a strike like doing the thing that you said at the beginning of your article of reaching out directly to Kyle yeah that's an option but I don't know he's a pretty racist guy they probably don't want to talk to him well can be mean yeah Lyle Lyle's of rude dude the Verge's youtube channel has since been brigaded with dislikes and nasty comments and there are now death threats we have to think about here's one good luck staying alive the internet doesn't forget just to be super clear about that one 99% sure right the site and the YouTube channel not you think you're okay at least with that one allowed that's the only one shown here so at least with that one yeah there's all pretty disappointing blah blah blah blah simply ask me about it you should have asked him about it yeah before attacking I hope everyone involved can take a moment and think about making sure they actually know what they think they know and the value of communicating directly instead of just simply reacting just as gold the end of that was just gold I just I don't even think I need to talk about that part that's just oh that's good that's that whole oh man ending it with that was great thank you that was fantastic oh man I couldn't have like oh yeah I don't even know I couldn't have requested a better last paragraph alright so now let's move on to a controversy that I woke up to on the forum this morning this is I'm very interested in this because I have not heard of it so this was posted by firelighter for 87 on the forum the Linux gamer did a response video to I actually didn't even know about this video until I found out about it reading about this this drama that I was embroiled in on the forum this morning anyway did a response video to our Linux gaming finally doesn't suck video sorry sorry so sorry can we jump back for a split second can you jump to my screen I can apparently this is nily yeah okay cool it's reckless I knew his Twitter handle I didn't actually mean before any of it went sideways oh it was pretty sideways by then Hertha strike on Wednesday when was Kyle's original tweet did Paul basically post on Twitter exactly what we just said you could have also just reached out to Kyle is that what I saw give me one second oh boy yeah you're still screen sharing I think we're fine okay cool that's the that's the floatplane stream by the way yeah hold on I want to see what Paul said at the beginning here this all could have been avoided if the parties involved yeah I love you Paul you're awesome you're awesome good job Paul oh but yeah so apparently the strike was pulled back on Wednesday by nily yeah but it happened on Tuesday that is really fast turnaround to be completely honest that might have been like right when he was made aware of it to be clear it might have been my mom that is quite fast turnaround but it still happened and yeah I don't know dude doesn't own Vox he's editor-in-chief of The Verge and that was Vox lawyers so it might have happened completely unbeknownst to him I don't remember exactly what he said about that in the article but he might have literally said that I don't know but yeah we can move on now we can talk about important context now we can talk about this video where the Linux gamer uploaded this thing fullscreen claimed my Linus tech tips response video so basically is some people were pretty upset some people kind of understood it but a lot of people we're drawing parallels to the situation between Vox media and Kyle let's just have a look here some people were like particularly mad and see if I can find any of that blah-blah-blah-blah-blah I'm sorry with this happen so far this is mostly discussion of like the content of his response video and like yeah whether our video was okay and whether you know whatever here's discussion of whether or not we have any kind of partnership with fullscreen yes we joined the fullscreen multi-channel network like four years ago I forget what the point of it was I think oh no I think I do remember so we were actually twitch for a very short period of time actually had a youtube MCN so we were partnered with them and then they like dissolved that the the the girl who was in charge of it was there for like six months and then just like disappeared one day and I was like oh okay bye I guess anyway so we joined fullscreen because some of our buddies including Austin were with fullscreen at the time they had a rep that was bringing them lots of deals in the wire oh yeah sure yeah I guess we'll be on fullscreen too and fullscreen had like kind of a smooth-talking blowhard guy that was like yeah we're gonna have like all the tech and I'm like yeah yeah cool you're an idiot but like you know whatever my buds are on there so sure why not anyway shortly after we joined fullscreen this rep who had been doing such a great job of bringing tech deals to other tech influencers left and like kind of went direct with those guys and then we just like never got off it cuz it's gonna matter so here's something that you guys might not know once you decouple your account from so okay just to clarify wait I'm not sure if I can say the terms of the deal so I won't say what the terms of our deal with fullscreen are but I will say that we signed our deal at a time when n CMS were much more hungrily trying to Hoover up creators and it was at a time when it was possible to get what's known as a 100 percent deal so nowadays my understanding is that the MC n takes anywhere from five or ten or even more percent of your Adsense views and in exchange they're supposed to provide a bunch of services including the one we're about to talk about as well as bring you like larger brand deals to more than make up for that gleaning that they do off the top but we signed on at a time when it was possible that MC ends just to have headline creators on their networks we're signing people to crazy deals where they didn't take any share whatsoever so our deal I can't tell you what the terms of it are but I can say that it is such that it doesn't bother us in any meaningful way and something that I didn't know until I switched and seems a couple times was that you actually lose all of your historical revenue data from your YouTube dashboard if you change your MCN or if you get rid of your MCN and you go vanilla YouTube so tech quickie and channels super fun are an actually tech linked for that matter and - cat tips are all just directly YouTube partnered with no MCN and then Linus tech tips is on the full-screen network but we do very little with fullscreen they they bring us very little in terms of like deals or anything almost an understatement okay so anyway there's some speculation in here that we aren't on the full-screen network we are and there's also some speculation in here that they like owned us which they most certainly do not yeah that's that's not that's not a thing linus Media Group Incorporated is entirely independent and has no third-party ownership stakes in it whatsoever oh okay blah blah blah blah blah blah it's multi-channel network here's a video from game theorists good old game there's good stuff okay blah blah blah blah and Tian Han will copyright okay where's the people that are mad I think it didn't happen until later here we go I don't know just so mad so mad about everything okay whatever you know what I can't find it right now basically people were upset because they really just didn't see it oh that's great okay yeah fine there we go right there still not a crime like perjury which is potentially what Linus did by bringing down this by having a Content ID claim against this video what when did Linus lie under oath during a court hearing for legal purposes that's what a DMCA claim is lying under oath hey you know it isn't but be falsely reporting a crime is basically what he's saying but it was an automatic claim that was actually generated by YouTube's own Content ID system and yeah so someone someone got it pretty right here we go spotty thank you spotty for this excellent post here you seem to be misinformed there's a huge difference between a copyright strike a DMCA takedown and a Content ID claim so copyright strikes come from DMCA takedowns like what Vox media did with Kyle's video where their lawyers get together decide it's racist and not fair use and contact YouTube and have that thing pulled Content ID is an automated system based on like machine learning and being fed a bunch of known content that is mostly designed so that like if you have a bot that automatically downloads someone's videos and like reuploads them on your own channel it's just gonna find that you like that's garbage and just clean that up yes and there's a big difference in what effect it actually has on the channel so a copyright strike results in your channel actually getting features pulled from it and potentially removed if you get enough of them like live streaming a Content ID claim what happens is you get a notification you get an email that you've received a Content ID claim and then you get the time step sometimes you get the timestamps within the video that that the the Content ID system has determined are a match for someone else's copyrighted works then you get a chance to file a dispute and I actually didn't know this particular aspect of it until last week but this is cool in the event that I write and what happens is the video actually stays up you keep all your views you keep your like dislikes your subscribers or whatever but the monetization of that video goes to the original copyright holder but this is something interesting if you dispute that claim within a pretty short period of time and I don't I don't know if this is actually in YouTube's Terms of Service so I don't want to like someone told me so I don't want to nail them down on exactly what that is I don't know if they're gonna change it or whatever else but if you dispute it fairly promptly and it doesn't have to be like within the first hour or anything like that but pretty promptly what happens is that not only does the video not go away but you actually get to take that money back that was claimed by the copyright holder in the meantime you don't actually lose any of your revenue so Content ID did you have to be pretty quick on that one it's like days yeah but like don't waste time yeah basically yeah so so Content ID is actually a much more benign and less harmful way of dealing with this than I think a lot of people necessarily understand as evidenced by some of the reactions in the video here excuse me in the forum thread here because all you have to do is say no actually I own the copyright to this or no this is fair use again knowing though that they could come back and say actually it's not fair and it's it's one clarification there is it's not YouTube coming back it's it's them here are some common rental they filed it originally so if you're like hey this is actually fine they could just be like no so there is that power imbalance there yes but at the very least they aren't striking you and really big difference because they're not damaging okay you might lose the money that you might have made on that video but what you don't lose is the ability to continue to run your channel yeah um so I think one of the reasons and the reason for the title of this stream which actually ended up being almost entirely about this yeah one of the reasons that this is coming up so much right now is that it is my belief and again I can't say who or where I might have gotten this idea from because I don't know if that hypothetical person is allowed to hypothetically tell me what I'm a hypothetically about to repeat okay but it is my understanding that YouTube has recently made some changes to the Content ID system making it more sensitive this is purely speculation on my part I have no evidence for this whatsoever but I would guess that part of this is in preparation for the changes that are being made to the article 13 thing that's happening over in Europe so they are making content ID more sensitive is my understanding of what's going on and this is the evidence that I have for that is that I am actually getting a ton of Content ID claims both ways so I'm in sort of an unusual situation where I own two one more but two in particular two YouTube channels that periodically borrow footage that was originally uploaded on the other so I actually woke up the other day with the tech quickie inbox full of Content ID claims from - Media Group incorporated on the line is tech tips channel no son don't do that so it's actually hilarious oh my god so anyway back to the whole the Linux gamer thing I didn't know about the Content ID claim I wouldn't have given two hoots if the video did exist I didn't even know about the I didn't know about the video until I woke up this morning and the Content ID claim not only had already been issued but had already been retracted by the automated system I don't remember I was going with this you can asically I gave no cares didn't even know about it and it was already resolved before I was even aware that there was an issue so sorry tinfoil hat folks out there - media group is not in the business of running around and issuing DMCA takedowns to people who criticize our work or create memes based on our content or otherwise transform what we do you know we believe very very strongly in the power of community you know we have turned criticism of our content into new content like what we did with Louis Rossman and his reaction video to our video card baking piece one of my favorite videos like on the Internet is a guy named Nitro blast you can find on YouTube took a video of my station just kidding it's a good video of me whipping a pair of headphones around and smacking them into the ground and then stomping on them and then throwing them against the wall don't you remember that but it was for these like activewear earbud review that I did back in like 2013 Cher and he put the stomping and the throwing against the garage door to the Wii the original Wii soundtrack it's hilarious just go whose channel probably this seems like more work than it's probably worth there's like a hundred oh no this is it Luke sports tips alright here we go it's hilarious I love this video ud MCAS you're done son we're playing this video and you'll like it so the headphones fall out it's the string clip review so each one it's like the throw and the stomp which is behind your freaking notification both have a sound effect buddy I love this thing because it's me also we don't have sound right now but I think it's hilarious and then at the beginning of this show I talked about some guy who made a song yeah and in 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get some night bot sport going on here it's gonna take some time though gonna take some time oh shoot what's going on here I'm playing the emojis called pew pew so oh right sorry I'm on the wrong thing it's all good man whoa all right I told chat there's no rate-limiting and then they took that to heart a little bit yeah guys come on chill chill so we're trying to try to have a stream here okay what Nick what can I do for you nothing okay cool no oh LTX update oh well tax updates holy crap do we have an update did they do one ah no there's no there's no LTX update this week but Wow I have an update for LT X so my update is that we are gonna be filming the LT x announcement video that's going to go on the LTTE Channel we're gonna film it next week that'll be coming soon and it will include details like when you can buy tickets it's coming pretty look quick fast I'm very very excited this is not working do you know why this isn't working it worked on mine it's just oh it's working going really slow oh this isn't on our like actual good stuff basically okay so this is like our Pinner server yeah you don't want to show the front um I could you know what yeah as long as I don't show this password then I'm good right yeah so I could show me copy pasting this past well just show the front and look around and this is the front no this is oh that is that before I sign in how do you get to that oh that's before the login page yeah okay so just take this away okay so guys don't judge the responsiveness of the site right now this is running on like some press on it's on it's on it's it's on garbage talent like stuff like don't worry about it it is before the production okay so there sign in there's join the girls how the page they can't see the dot there there you go okay sorry alright say hello to floatplane learn more or joy learn more right now that doesn't doesn't yeah it will scroll you down yeah this search actually works but it's a search for channels and there's no channels in this environment so not gonna find anything so this is yours to be like yeah you explain you explain okay right here there's like a spindle of tiles that show what creators are on the site but as there there aren't any on this like pre-production version it's just empty so yeah that will be a thing and then down here there's just some stuff that just explains these pictures the bottom one and the top one of those three are just photos that Brandon took and then the middle one is a photo of Brandon yeah it's just posted Lee it's just a stylish okay okay alright so now we can unshare actually read the legal stuff is that a real link it is hey we have Terms of Service and stuff now that's awesome yeah look at that it's been on the site the whole time it's just it wasn't as easy to find you should probably unshare now right yeah unsure music okay and we're back oh go away no I don't want to save a password I love how when you press never it still prompts you the next time you do you think okay so if I go to here we go my home hold on it's like a browse creators wait where do I go what are you doing I want our browse creators I want to go to channel super fun okay yay actually this one isn't a set up as some of the other one because they're a lot you're also not well you're not subscribed to that one right you sign into tech wiki so you probably only subscribe to tech wiki so the other ones were locked because you don't information is to see it cool so here's my home here's some videos so basically the main new thing that happened on these pages and this tech wiki page doesn't have a banner at the top in a second cuz you logged in to a different account yeah this one's fine okay yeah it just shows locks yeah so you don't have permission to see that content yeah the main thing that we changes we added a support column to the far right hand side so creators gonna be able to start setting up multiple plans if they would yeah they would so choose they don't have to yeah and something we're working on this is a placeholder I guess a this is this is not the production environment put that there guess AJ I just I don't actually even know I just wanted to see what it could be it could be anyone yeah really good I think I know who it was but I basically one other thing I don't know what I said basically another thing that we're working on yeah as you can see there's a tech cookie account yes I don't know when this is gonna be done I don't know how feasible this is gonna be but we want you guys to be able to split your accounts up cool and then there would be now that we have multiple tiers you'd be able to subscribe to the tier that has all of the basic access to all of the different accounts sure can I poke around in the CMS - yeah so uploading videos like works pretty low well these days - have any videos in here no this I wouldn't video library one cool thing is you can go to edit and now there's you can select what tiers this one only has one tier cool you can select what tiers are able to see the thing we've got your live settings yeah I want to leave don't go to the other button in there go to settings I'm not gonna streaming keys don't worry settings where you can make your Wow zero one zero one one zero zero one zero we are robots lorem ipsum whatever show monthly income you can turn that on or off that's pretty cool so yeah so just above where the support button is yeah it shows like you can have how many subscribers you have and how much you make but flow plane isn't really designed around being a donations platform it's more of a subscription to a service so it doesn't fully fall in line with that so if you want to set up your account that way you can but by default we have it off price two thousand dollars nice you get nothing nice there we go alright this is gonna be the start tier awesome so get rekt here now this year's tier [Laughter] now this plan will not be seen publicly because it's not published yet okay because we want people to be very careful publishing a plan is permanent yeah you will have to contact floatplane administrators to make certain changes and that's because they would be I published it yeah well that's why I'm contacting the flow can I make some changes please sir damn it and the reason for that is to try to protect the the people subscribing to the creator so the Creator understands the implications of just ripping a plan out of out of people who are currently paying for something so if we go out of the Creator CMS we go to the wiki channel oh there we go and we have to get rekt here yeah and I believe that all I have to do is I can like add a card and like this stuff actually I think the question burning in everyone's minds now then is when do we go into beta I I need this stuff in I need the new upload and transcode systems I need the support page I need the FAQ page if stream is gonna get a little bit better we're working on this multi CDN thing that's going on it's it's coming well we'll be there soon what the the main benchmark for me for beta is that a few major pain points need to be solved every video can't have this new bubble on it this search thing should probably work like extremely basic functionality needs to be in place and we still have a bit of that I didn't know there was a oh yeah yeah it doesn't do anything it's actually been there like the whole time god never noticed yeah yeah yeah yeah so the we're actually getting pretty close and I think the new multi-column layout and the front page yeah should add a little bit of good feeling to the site not being quite as alpha as it was and we have some more of those types of things so more on the crater side like the upload and transcode stuff which is awesome like tera let's real talk let's be honest the way our trans code works right now is if tech deals uploads one of his epic 4 or 4k world of warships streams to floatplane it's like 75 gigs - tek-tips has to wait like three hours because everything is done in series so that that won't happen anymore so like there's reasons we haven't broad just brought on a bunch of creators because there's honestly stuff that's really ready and then there's stuff that's not as ready it's one thing to have a video playback site yeah honestly Luke could have set that up in 48 hours in fact three years ago he did yay it just sucked thanks man the hard thing is scaling and the really cool thing about this if you want to play a video to one person pretty easy yeah well the really cool thing though is that Luke has had both the blessing and curse of having one medium to large scale creator yeah to use as and really like mad props to all of our viewers who have who have been with us genuinely really appreciate through floatplanes growing pains because you guys have been the testers for this not only that you have funded a significant amount of the development of this platform indirectly like we're still we're still burning money like we're still it's still a startup bit open oh yeah but it has some revenue and it has this proof of concept that we know that the model can work and you guys have been just an incredible part of that and making it happen so so anyway we've had both the benefit and the drawback of having this scale that we have to live up to and that has taught us a lot about how to get ourselves ready to bring on other creators there's been some buzz from some pretty big names around creating alternatives to YouTube and there was even one that was supposed to be as far as I know March by now yeah like a month ago yeah and it's not if we've learnt anything about making this platform is setting launch dates is scurrying usually doesn't work out and also that like what we're doing is not easy and so again like mad props this time to the floatplane dev team because what you guys are doing would normally be done by a team of 3040 people with fifty million dollars of vc backing like that's the kind of project we're working on and so yeah it's taken some time but because of our amazing community because of the tenacity of our devs we are actually finally getting close to being able to bring on other creators and start to scale the thing out and because Luke whose strength really wasn't organization when I met him understand and and we've taken a really building block style approach and the early days not so much but we learned and we've taken a really modular building block style approach to building the platform that makes it so that we will be able to scale it when the time comes and add functionality much more easily then if you just kind of throw something together in 48 hours which I was like Luke strength was grossly misrepresenting his experience yeah ya know the funny thing is that Luke oh we had a freeze on OBS so if people are complaining about a freeze in the stream someone in spamming I need notification alright sounds good dude go turn on your settings oh yeah notifications are working they technically exist there's improvements that need to happen to those just like almost everything else but but if they technically exist if you go into settings you can set on push notifications or email notifications per creator yeah oh should we talk about the our community's gonna freak out about this well Paul just messaged me and said we should look into his conversation with nyle a so I think we should almost dive into that a little bit more almost okay we can talk about it's not ready yet so there's been some requests for flow plane stop there's been a lot of requests for flow planes a lot more open source stuff there's also been a lot of for apps to exist and other things and one of the members on the team that I don't know if I'm he's been on the team definitely long enough for me to say his name but I don't know he wants his name to be public so I will say it yet I will figure that out later and then no later but has been working on setting up the base of our mobile apps and then we're going to be working on making it open source so people can contribute to them if they would like but we're trying to get the base really solid first and then open the API and do some other things like that so people can be able can work with that if they would like it's not necessarily about trying to save work or trying to save money we were definitely willing to do it ourselves it just was gonna take longer and we've had a lot of members of our community go like hey honestly I just love to help with this so that I could just have an app there's people that have more like just made one so and I'm like okay that's actually like really cool impressment stuff but no so so yeah we're running down that path like if there's gonna be third-party support for this initiative anyway we just want to make sure that we're doing it properly yeah and so so this is this is a way for us to get something done faster and at the it's the weirdest thing give the community what they want which seems to be to help us out which is weird but like but you guys are cool you guys are awesome so really really excited about that do you want to pull up Paul's Twitter conversation there oh sure give me one second what is Paul joining floatplane well he he wants to we just need to be ready oh yeah so it's us yeah yeah oopsy looking that up why did I do a couple super chats cuz I saw a couple of ridiculous ones come in biking with Panda what kind of name is that love from the open ZFS team I hope Luke becomes a platform Sunday can you send me some jerky and coffee thanks guys that was a disjointed message thank you for that Wow I Katan 11 says I love you guys content been watching you for years thank you you rock Jonas it's got floatplane last weekend first time watching on floatplane it's so good there weren't thanks flag boy copyright in America is nuts big companies soon youth groups huh Wow really like cheerleaders dancing winter guard etc for hundreds of thousands of dollars because they use their music oh really yeah wow that's rough oh yeah I don't know I don't know about the hundred thousands of dollars thing I don't know about any of the values but there's been tons of tons of stuff yeah The Insider says they got banned by the The Verge PC build guide creator guy Stefan so yeah no I believe they were just like blocking people on Twitter and stuff like that so I've even heard of cases where like a dude was playing a radio in the back of his shop to literally just himself but because it was on a commercial premises they like tried to hit him with some something a song was played I remember there's there's been some like absolutely crazy stuff I have no idea wow that's kind of nice Sam the bird says hey Luke go on a date with me hey sorry Thunder does games want to go to LTX but can't get off work oh that's a bummer well thanks for your support anyway and we will have like a like a Virtual Ticket so stay tuned for that Luke's alter ego says nto cute the Canuck the world's most stereotypical Canadian I like it great I'm down uh s PM says ribs strong Lyle very strong indeed oh geez oh boy ah PC genius says love you Luke when his days two cents coming to floatplane he's bit I'd that's another one James wanted to join for a long time it's just I don't want their entrances to the platform to be really bad I want it to be a good experience for the users and for them and floatplane isn't quite there yet we're getting really close we're starting to feel it the front page is coming on the website we've got the multi tiers thing having a black page having what we could have literally done with Squarespace in 20 minutes yes but we wanted to do it on our own site and that kind of stuff it's it's it's coming along it's coming with the cover pages feature it basically is the cover babies anyways David says I sent an email asking about the VIP ticket for LTX wanted to know if it included a two-day pass and Dreamhack b-y-o-see at night I believe so yeah I believe so stay tuned I think the VIP tickets are gonna go really fast they're like not gonna be cheap they are hundreds of dollars and I'm sorry but that's already like it'll already sell in like an hour yeah they're almost under it's they're expensive but they're almost under I don't even know what we talked about like doubling the price this yeah just to your party gonna have to next just to give people who like aren't sitting there with their finger on the trigger ready to go a chance to get one but then we were like no so it's actually I believe gonna be the same price as last year it's a hard case because if you if you don't price it high enough people are just gonna buy them way too fast and then there's just a ton and litter mad the only people with like watching BOTS are gonna be the ones that notice it or scalpers are just gonna buy it if you price it way too high than you look like a jerk people will not be able to scalp them oh yeah because the VIP ticket is personalized to you the person who bought it okay yeah I think I'm good for now there's actually a bunch more yeah sorry guys there's like actually a lot more but we're there's we actually need to go home at some point we went way over time Jimmy so to do this Paul cenk there's one person in full in chat who said they don't have the emote even though they've been sub since the forum and I recognize your name and I know that's true contact support at floatplane calm look at that teen careful okay she didn't have a domain now with a support you can see things are coming along these are cool okay let's talk to you really quick yeah sure on your screen okay so we've already read this first this is hilarious this this was great I love how how well it lined up with what we were saying so Paul said this all could have been avoided if well oh he's quoting this all could have been avoided if they simply reached out to me directly says nyle a hypocrisy basically because the same thing could happen the other way around then he just did a screenshot of the article yeah moving on do not there's a few other responses nyle a response directly hopefully I'm saying your name right sorry if I'm not it's not a reality show none of the stakeholders actually reached out and again it's reversed this right I reverse the strike on Wednesday Paul said did you make any attempt to reach out to them before having a legal team take action that affected their ability to make a living if not saying they should have reached out to us first carries zero weight nya Lee says I do not think our team should use the strike system no which is why I reversed it what okay that didn't answer Paul's question all right that's what he says he's like you didn't answer my you seem to not want to admit any fault or accept responsibility for anything in this situation so you're blaming your team for issuing the strike but you're the one who took action to remove it I remove the strike I did not make a series of videos that led to an obvious coordinated harassment Kim what are you even talking about but what led to the coordinated harassment campaign was you didn't pull your video immediately when it was obviously horrible and yeah it was like problematic as it was a guide Paul said well then you're obviously the victim here at the mercy of okay basically what I do to perform a transfer grid which we activated because we are evil couldn't possibly be that you're in the wrong and a bunch of people agree that based on preponderance of evidence again I refers to strike on Wednesday no one no one's saying you didn't I appreciate they did that quickly but no one no one's saying you didn't before any of this went sideways that the criticism whatever it is of a thing that I undid is the other thing that I undid is the other thing that I ended and the nature of that criticism is coordinated and toxic being coordinated no one's coerced so I'm the the like what's that what's that app where all the chat we're all like all the tech youtubers have this signal account that we all message well snow it's not an app like it's Wade no it's it's it's a big it's ok sauce is pretty cute it's got a cylinder okay yeah it's got a cylinder and then there's like there's like this like this metal kind of frame piece that goes across the front sure okay yeah and it stands about this high so you got the cylinder with this frame piece on the front here and then it's got a big light in the back and you aim it at the sky oh yeah yeah okay it's got a back tack you two were under attack come support immediately we coordinated and toxic attack I am firm and saying that is unacceptable well I completely Paul now says well I completely disagree but thanks for applying here at least I think everyone now has a much clearer idea of what your official stance is on the matter I think his official stance is that he took it back on Wednesday we took the original video down all right so on that note the man show's over some guys again next week same bat-time same bat-channel maybe that's why I always say that everyone coordinates like something's happening something to happen he didn't say the Batman Oh drat yes we're good bye everyone bye how's a long show yeah we had something to talk about I know right not about that meets you fully see but they did the right thing they do the certain coffee striking people months after the event to remind everyone about fully under oh man good show