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well I mean make sure you like over live by the way but I'm gonna try yeah sure you know you don't be an idiot it'll probably be more interesting to work maybe I can try to recruit people while I'm there I'll just like get a sign sit on the side of the road be like need developers please help if you know JavaScript welcome to the show you guys before the show and then we usually try to do lunch once a week just last week and I think we missed the week before yeah this is the only time luke and I talk to each other so yeah you'll have to forgive us honestly it doesn't account for all of it part of it is that I was reviewing a script with Tarun before this and I was doing that late because I was building a machine with one of our ROG rig reboot winners right before that pretty banging machine did you see it looks really nice yeah I didn't like really inspect it but it looks really nice from 7700 K 32 gigs ram RGB up to but 1080 TI Strix yeah 165 Hertz monitor basically as good as I would ever recommend awesome like anything beyond that you're like kind of dumb like for gaming really really intense diminishing returns yeah yeah or or you were literally worse yeah unless you do something else yeah so so yeah we were just chatting about floatplane Luke is leaving the country yep not permanently no one year will notice yeah what will they notice they'll notice your car not in the parking I may be here yeah now that you have that like hid know I have the furthest away from any entrance office as far as I know yeah like the most Awkward you would only go there if you were going to my office possible location and then I entered not from the main entrance now and my alley well I enter from that side what am i right like a really quick loop yep your basically your private stairwell yeah anyway Dennis was Dennis just mentioned before the show that he's seen me like 10 times this year Dennis I think I'm lesson focused now I think Soho we have what we have a month so well you're reading that in focus yeah hi mom oh I'm good I miss you to it this is probably the point where she mentions that I also don't see my I'm not sending him anywhere unsafe it's okay oh I don't know she knows that I'm going into the country yeah it's not like Somalia no it's fine yeah well I'm sending myself yeah yeah like he's the CEO of that company and he made an executive decision that he needed to have a meeting out of the country and informed me that he was going yeah that's pretty good Suzy virya no this is completely my idea I'm going to Sweden so like it's not like I don't want to go there and I'm visiting a guy that I've known for a long time and we're gonna work on some floatplane stuff right I did sort of forget that I'm also leaving tomorrow and I haven't booked my ticket yet what it's fine there's available - he's getting mothered on both sides right now by the way just so you know I'm with you on this it'll work I would be fine yeah yeah I have a place to stay that I can't really detail but I do have a place to stay this time I have traveled without a place to stay before this is an improvement all right well thank you for calling in it's always a pleasure all right all right so we've got a great show for you guys today Intel's 18 core high-end desktop die has been pictured the iPhone 8 is rumored to cost more due to Samsung's control of OLED display supply apparently we're putting a headphone jack back into the iPhone 7 well we're not but some go this is the same guy I believe that like built his own iPhone out of a whole bunch of little components hey do you hear about that okay this is the same guy so he went to China and went to like the little shops that had little like individual iPhone components and he built this hole on one that like works in stuff and like the touch ID and everything functions really it's pretty cool it's it's took him months but then he was like traveling in and out cuz he was like working there and doing those kinds right and he was doing it just like overtime on the side it's a really cool video series it's quite a long video but it's really interesting I believe this is the same guy but I'm not I wasn't certain and then AMD Vega 11 enters production intro time oh oh I'm gonna use a screen back screen back didn't work what Billy I tested this last didn't work again are you wait wait wait wait I love it are you using the are you using the I'm not using anything hold on hold on are you using the xsplit blog for broadcaster PTR I don't think so I didn't launch this oh we have to use the public test release if we were fine yeah I didn't watch that was already set up what I got I think thankful yeah yeah okay so just to talk of oh no we're playing a track yeah look yeah Mack Weldon no no no no no I didn't put on the shirt before the show I'm gonna have to change into it and risk a nip slip oh my dang it I'll body block you twitches terms of service are gonna be the end of me yep all right damn nipple equality oh wait oh and we're back oh man I am excited for today's show for one reason and that is that I didn't do the okay so I think I figured it out it's when we put the computer to sleep and wake it back up with xsplit still running that the the capture cards oh okay the camera just no that's fine that one's already working though you can tell which one the camera one is by the way it is everything's amazing oh yeah I guess I could have done that okay so our first topic was posted by the Benjamins on the forum and the original article here is from hexxus dotnet famous overclocker der Bauer you know what I think der Bauer does so well even though professional overclockers generally are like really well known within the professional overclocking community so basically like it's a big circles circle congratulation I have to use it I think the reason that he has kind of broken out into the mainstream is the guy's got a personality he does I've met him he's cool yeah why I met him but I like his videos yeah like he's actually super cool I ran into him at Computex and he's roasted us before and I still liked his video really I mean it was like YouTube tech reviewers I was like alright alright ramen I thought am i included with YouTube tech reviewers you might be I don't review anything anymore oh I mean if you think about it I mean there's still like graphs and that's opinions in our videos which is like a forum that's okay I'm over it okay so right here on the left is the 7900 X so this is the ten core core i9 and on the right is the utterly massive eighteen core die of the upcoming 79 20x so there's a couple of takeaways here number one is that in case you were wondering eighteen course means a bigger die than ten course which will hopefully have at least some positive effect on our ability to pool this bloody thing because we actually have a video coming on D living Intel processors that's coming really soon we know mainstream and the high end no so we we stripped down to 79 hundred because we can almost did it for nope can't talk about it I don't even know about this but didn't oh yeah wait what never mind Oh move on continue okay where was I going with this right so we know that it's bigger which will hopefully help us move heat away from it because hopefully the the heat density won't be any higher so if we just put a really powerful cooler on it that's got a an enormous cooling plate then maybe we'll be okay and it also tells us based on that that's a shiny clean dye that Intel is still using an easy-to-clean thermal interface material rather than soldering the dye so as some of you probably know AMD is soldering the dyes on their Rison and thread ripper chips I do still intend to try to delete a thread Ripper it should theoretically be pasta because did you see the vanity thread rippers that they provided to youtubers and and influencers so it's a thread Ripper tip with your publication name lasered into the top yeah so but it doesn't work well I want it to work so you're gonna take that off and swap with it that's cool so yeah that's gonna be a video project sometime in the next seoul-beijing what's the what's the theory the theory hypothesis how are you gonna go about this so I plan to do it the same way that I did the qx60 700 way back in the day okay so what I did was I carefully and I'm gonna use the dead one to investigate how well it works because what do I have to lose it's dead one yeah so I'll cut the seal all around it and so you just have to be really careful that you didn't go too deep with the razor blade so you don't cut off our resistor or something yeah then what I did was I just put some thermal paste on it put it on to a pot and then put the pot on a hot element on the stove okay that way as soon as the solder gets hot enough it will release and you can just pop it off and get it away from the hot element so that way you don't heat it up any more than you have to and also you don't heat up any part of the chip that you don't have to you know any more than you have to that make sense girls thinking you're gonna have to heat it in some way and I was worried that you'd fry it that way I guess so the qx60 700 that I did back in the day did survive and then the way that I got the solder off was actually just with a plastic scraping tool and a lot of patience so that's that's my plan and we'll see if it works maybe twitch ad is telling me about how it's not going to work in the dashboard it's just full of people getting time out so maybe I'll have to go to the public theater to see the actual twitch ed yeah hopefully I can hit the pause button before we get an echo apparently people are pretty pretty roasted about how out of focus we are right now oh damn oh damn Colin's gonna come in and try and do it twice oh you look at her focus I don't know about myself I just like shiny the same okay tell you what tell you what just for you guys we're gonna pause the show we're gonna okay Colton Colton but the wheel on the front will you know the lens let's do it let's do it okay no worse ask a Vee I'd love to ah we tried to contact him okay other way he was like me other way not quite not too far that oh yeah that looks good ah still mean well like right up against this now anyways it's actually still yeah it's really soft yeah I think I don't even get this like where are we I think it's like way up here okay you got to come further back this way come on back yeah it's like here my hand is nice and InFocus Oh too far well let's go with that let's go with that alright alright okay cool so what else do we know you know depth of field folks different things what I was saying was we could get one with a wider one so that it seems like we're more in focus more often because the focus is a constant problem yep so we could we could turn less apertures and then deeper depth yeah a focus field okay the iPhone 8 will apparently cost more because Samsung is controlling OLED supply also there will apparently be no touch ID due to 3d touch so this was posted by red round 2 on the forum and the original article here is from 9 to 5 Mac what I want to know 9 to 5 Mac is why you guys aren't willing to put in the extra hours typical employer question these guys if they even want to be paid for their lunch I only work eight actual hours so they probably take a half hour lunch they probably take two 15-minute smoke breaks come on you guys smoking is disappointing you're disappointing me here you're disappointing me here okay so let's go ahead and run through run through what we got here so it's the new iPhones display is expected to include a flexible OLED panel an OLED touch panel a 3d touch monob module and an OLED panel module but Samsung will be responsible for providing each OLED part with the only exception in the stack being the 3d touch module so normally Apple will leverage multiple suppliers this helps keep costs low and they've even gone as far as to use both TSMC and Global Foundries to fit our wait is it TSM team Global Foundries or was it were they using Samsung as a fab they've used multiple fabs for their actual like compute chips sorry it's tsmc and Samsung a lot less common have they ever made a chip in Global Foundries blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah no makes last-minute decision to use tsmc for 30% of a9 chip facing poor yield rates from chip maker Global Foundries so solidify its chain etc a Samsung Google foundry used to produce the 14 okay so it looks like whatever the point is they've gone as far as to dual source even the CPUs in their phones which is pretty ballsy not how many people do that which is super ballsy because even if you make the same CPU at the same process node Samsung's Intel's Global Foundries TSM sees all of their technology even on the same node is going to be slightly different with different characteristics so one might consume more power one might pluck a little higher one might do both one might do neither you never actually know until you've actually got silicon in hand what some of the quirks of a manufacturing process will be so in this case they are not able to take advantage of an additional supplier and it looks like oh beep sorry it looks like the OLED unit is estimated to cost a hundred and twenty to a hundred and thirty dollars per screen versus the 45 to $55 per unit cost of LCD panels huh you think anyone's gonna care do you think anyone that buys iPhones consistently and has been for a while he's gonna care it's $100 mark rice yeah um you know let me think for a second because okay someone will care how much of an impact do you think it'll make with the amount of whinging that I've seen over the Galaxy Note 8 price which is actually about $100 more than an s8 plus and 4-year hundred dollars you get a stylus okay my point here though is that it's Apple customers instead of Samsung customers that's fair but I would argue that a note customer is pretty close to an apple customer pretty close to an apple customer because I think the note customer is locked into into a way of using the device that goes beyond Android right because there's a feature that is literally not on something else there that they value yeah and so you know I I don't think for $100 that it's that big of a deal but there were a lot of people who were pretty about her now Oh actually I wanted to address another quick thing about the note 8 video some people were upset that I was that I was freaking out about the 200 milli amp hour smaller battery on the no-date versus the s8 plus saying that the note 8 gets better battery life than the s8 plus 2 that I would say yeah that may be sure that may be true for now but you also have to remember that the note 8 also has I can't remember they don't call it TouchWiz anymore but whatever Samsung's UI is yeah the node 8 also has TouchWiz features that the s8 plus doesn't have because it gets a new version of the software the fact that they're running the same CPU with actually I believe the note it has more RAM depending on the the storage version of the s8 plus don't quote me on that one but basically there's nothing about the s8 plus that consumes more power than the note 8 has a smaller display marginally so there will be a difference even if there isn't today even if at launch Samsung is positioning the note 8 as having better battery life some of the chap all capital letters quoting you on that one that's okay if you go ahead I'm for the rage Linus is this panel cracked what the crap just happened I think my screen is scratched that sucks I really like this laptop okay I'm sad weird I don't see Oh like it just looks like a little hair on there but it's not not really sucks okay it's not gonna show up in camera room so backs back to your question do I think that the hundred dollar so I wouldn't have okay excess you had seen that except that people were so upset about the extra hundred dollars for the no date that's fair I think I don't think it's gonna affect a lot of purchasing decisions but it might hurt some fanboy mentality I don't know the Apple fan behaves a little differently they do then the typical fan like they they tend to defend apples need to make a profit on their devices they tend to defend the sort of disparity between their pricing you're totally right and I don't think it's completely changed but it's been changing a little bit I don't I don't feel like people would just Auto buy everything from them anymore and we saw that with the watch the Apple watch didn't actually sell that well watches in general didn't actually sell that well yes mart watches seem to be tablets are going quiet yeah no one cares about a new ipad anymore which is why i Apple did that commodity basically like education Edition iPad honestly okay I think the hundred dollars would be pretty easy to swallow if Apple was bringing something game-changing to the table and I think that's where Samsung ran into trouble a little bit because my biggest issue with the no-date wasn't that it's not a great phone it's a great phone does everything my issue with the no date was that it was really safe you basically made a note seven with a smaller battery uh-huh and what did they add again oh right dual camera it has not surprised the dual cameras really not that impressive so so that was where we ran into trouble the big highlight feature the dual camera didn't blow my mind and so and it's an extra hundred bucks for someone who's not a heavy stylus user yeah I don't really care whereas here if the iPhone eight has this like basically floor-to-ceiling wall to wall display surface and people are really into that then an extra hundred dollars might not be a big deal but kind of a killer from me on it is this is how I take out my iPhone I I lift it up to my face like this and touch ID has unlocked the phone before before I would ever get a chance to align the phone with my eyes and unlock it with my irises well before that he just did both of those by the way the rumor is that the iPhone 8 or whatever they end up calling it iPhone edition the rumor is that it will rely on facial recognition and old-school typed passwords instead of touch ID because their plan to embed a touch ID sensor under the display is rumored to be cancelled since OLED creates an unfavorable scan through scenario for the fingerprint sensor that's really disappointing which is sort of a bummer because apples touch recognition is awesome sorry that only didn't go because I hadn't clicked it yet like it's so fast I would really miss that you know and I would look at something like that and I would go the decision between an iPhone 6s because your your form of power users mostly speed am i correct yes I'm all about like getting stuff done with might so you were absolutely a power user of your phone but like I don't do much with not in terms of like gaming or not like watching really high quality video no yes I expect performance and that's one thing that the iPhone does really well but the thing is is that the iPhone 7 and the 6s for that matter are both really fast and the weird thing that an iPhone 8 with this gorgeous full-coverage display but lack of touch ID does for me is it creates this weird segmentation in Apple's product lineup like they they tend to still support older iPhone models so I'm looking at it going okay so it's iPhone 6s if you want a headphone jack its iPhone 7 if you want better battery life and better performance than the 6s but you don't care about the headphone jack and then it's the iPhone 8 if you want this cool display experience but you're giving up both the headphone jack and touch ID and it costs more and it costs more and instead of it just being like an unequivocally better experience as you move up the stats trade-offs cuz you are actually making trade-offs as you go which is really I feel like that would be unacceptable to Steve Jobs it's let me try much they like basically reinvented the wheel then he'd be like no this is what the experience is now and it would be a big deal did they ever take back a feature they're not one of a previous iPhone put together pieces from other things and went look this is better still Casteel the hill yeah they stole the wheel and they put other spokes on it and they're like heck yeah um trendy ones yeah really trendy wheels really trendy spokes sorry the wheels were made by someone else okay speaking of taking features off the iPhone and or putting them back on this is a pretty cool video it's from strange parts guys only ever published to videos ever one was the one we were talking about yeah so the first one is how I made my own iPhone and it's 23 and a half minutes long and then this one is bringing back the iPhone headphone jack and it's thirty three and a half minutes long and both of them are really interesting I haven't fully watched the new one yet but the first one I have watched the entire thing it's a great video he's only released two videos like - just said his other ones for four months ago and has nine million views his new ones from two days ago and already has 1.7 million views all right awesome I dropped the link in the chat but I'm pretty sure fair use allows us to show a little bit of his video for the sake of illustrating that he made a video so basically he does a bunch of stuff to the iPhone 7 that he says he loves but it didn't have a headphone jack find some contact basically does some pretty crazy DIY shiz my friends Wow so basically he ripped off how the Lightning adapter works and then like that's incredible it's wild like Eve even the how I made my own iPhone video is absolutely wild like how he finds all the different things and how he talks different people to get information to find out like oh I needed these little tiny like silver contact pads that have to go in this one area that like aren't detailed anywhere but they have to go there so that there's like spacing between whatever and like he details all of his different talks with different people and he details everything and he's doing and I don't know about this one but the how I made my own iPhone video went over as far as I know months right he's like doing little pick up vlog things the whole time it's really cool I haven't fully seen the new one yet highly suggest watching both yeah go check it out you guys dramas strange parts and we've got one more let's do one more topic before we jump into our sponsors this is sources WCC F Tech so take it with a grain of salt AMD Vega 11 GPUs supposedly entering production with Vega 20 rumored to be coming on 7 nanometre so the AMD rumour mill is a going strong Vega 11 will supposedly be an actual replacement for Polaris 10/20 and the rx 580 and 570 graphics cards it's rumored to feature HBM to memory which I would assume AMD has some compelling reason for yeah given that there again this is a rumor but given that they're rumored to be losing money on RX Vega right now due to the cost of HBM - given that I would be floored if HP m2 is cheaper than some GDD are variants and given that like even once I believe that SK Hynix that they're waiting to come online so that pricing will get more competitive and like why would a mid-range card even need HBM to memory like HP m2 is super cool but GD r5 is a very solid pretty damn well performing implementation like why don't I put it this way it's not very expensive if gddr5 is good enough for the GT X 1080 Ti and your upcoming mid-range Vega is not faster than a 1080 TI why do you need HBM - I don't think it's that big of like a buzzword I know and that most people don't know what it means and he every time I talk to them they are just like they can't wait to like unzip and like show me their HBM to be like we are bringing HBM to to consumers and I'm sitting here going so what consumers don't care what memory is under the hood I just want to know how fast it is in whatever games yeah there are a few that do sure but they care about the zero-to-sixty of the vehicle and like if it has air someone in the chat no idea what HP m2 is well yeah watch it's a next generation graphics made video Neverland I'm not insulting you I'm just saying like this is the thing the only thing I can think of is if they think that it's going to reduce the complexity and therefore the cost of the of the graphics card PCB to such an extent that it will offset the additional cost of the memory or if they basically the other thing that I can think of is that they just locked themselves into this you know 18 months ago when development started and there's no going back now without significant R&D to to backtrack on the decision and they're just kind of boned because HBM to costs didn't fall the way that they were hoping actually you know what that's probably it okay oh other news sorry yeah yeah I will aim these next-generation high-end Vega 20 a I 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even works in the same boards so it's like there's like really not much reason to run out and buy these unless you get one on promo or something but that tends to be pretty rare just because of the way that Intel manages their supply chain really well like speaking as someone who came from the channel it tends to be that just kind of they must just have very predictable sales because as the new one is coming the old one just like kind of trickles off in terms of supply and then by the time they're gone they kind of are selling slower anyway and you're ready to transition into the new one and there's never really a gap right it's actually kind of magical how well people think Intel I don't think anyone thinks Intel's a marketing company but people think Intel is an engineering company and they are but what they also are is a supply chain come they've talked about it before we're really good yeah at supply chain yeah so they'll be taking orders of these chips through March 30th of 2018 and shipping them through to September of 2018 but I mean the reason that they want to get rid of them is that they would be taking up fab space that could be used for other 14 nanometer products so yeah whatever rumor Google preparing to buy HTC's phone division so this is supposed to buy daring on the forum and I like that name for this news because that would be pretty daring HTC and Google's supportive supposedly in final stage of negotiation regarding sale of smartphone business I mean I see this being okay so there's a couple things here I see this being good news for HTC in that it gives them an exit strategy and bad news for HTC in that what do you do any relevance that they could have possibly hoped to have I mean I don't know if the company is gonna survive on vive but maybe they keep a very small VR team that VRS or and I think they do that like they obviously do some om production because they did produce the pixel they were the only they were the only Android make her with little enough self-respect that they were willing to let Google get away with not putting their brand on the pixel so like I mean that could it's been a bad time to be HTC for the last few years why I was like VR has been doing a little bit better lately I'm sales have kicked up because it discounts on the headsets and stuff yeah it's been happening there's some big games coming out actually I got to play doom VR how was it packs it was actually pretty good I don't think I'd like it I bought Arizona Suns Arizona sunshine and it's like scary like I like get Floquet yeah but there's there's a Skyrim and fallout as well I would probably still get scared follow it's maybe a little scary like either isn't creepy stuff all right and the president makes creepy games yeah okay the thing the thing is that like I usually play VR when I'm like I just want to relax for a little bit like I just so what I usually play is the long bow game in the lab okay it's really fun yeah and it's all cartoony and happy and like even when you lose it's like very and like both there's balloons and stuff they don't really care imma do another one and the other day I was playing the survival mode of Arizona sunshine and I got to the level where they like to start running at you and I was like killing guys my dad played the Fallout game er and he was like looking at the dog didn't like kind of pretending to pet it VRS stuff then a zombie comes up and like hits the dog and my dad like launched backwards in real life and like one of the demo ladies had to like jump out of the way and he immediately goes to like commando position like holding the gun goes like this cuz it's just a pistol and it starts popping zombies of like just immediately burst in action cuz something hit his damn dog it's like the fastest way to piss my dad off and that's oh those three games are coming all big from Bethesda and there's other VR games that are continuing to come out from more VR focus developers it's it's VR stuff is becoming more legitimate especially with these big titles are oh here you go AHA VR is has been spun off as a standalone subsidiary already anyway yeah so Google's incentive here is that they want to produce hardware routers phones whatever Google is getting into consumer electronics and HTC has good manufacturing facilities and that was the m9 or m8 that was like the the one piece of aluminum the m7 was then someone that really got everyone's attention and like made made HTC relevant again yeah how are short a period time they can do that stuff but yeah so likes I see what's in it for Google I see what's in it for HTC they had their worst month in the past 13 years um in August revenue dropped by 51 point five percent compared to last month and fifty four point three percent one last August so like yeah I totally see this making sense and Google's probably the most sensible buyer that I can think of pretty cool all right that's boring that's boring Wow okay there is something important to say about this oh okay just one really quick thing okay hold on below I'll bring it up then this is supposed to by scratch cat on the forum the original articles from CBC a hundred and forty three million US consumers may have been affected in a cyber attack yeah so this is an Equifax cyberattack thing I don't know enough about it we often stay away from not always but we often stay away from politically stuff especially American political stuff because we're not fully up to spec on it because we're not Americans but I do want to put this out here it's been mentioned a few times I don't know if it's true or not but do your own research to check if you've been affected you have to click yes to an agreement and most people just fly through and click yes to everything and the agreement is that you will not join a class-action lawsuit so be careful I don't 100% know if that's true but I've seen it in a lot of places and it seems to be true I would read it yourself but basically the consensus is right now if you've done anything with Equifax assume that you're affected don't do the check to see if you which is great because Equifax is like really big deal and like you can very very likely have your identity be stolen that's who you go to when you're at risk of identity theft yeah no it's like actually I'm apparently some Canadian and UK residents an undisclosed number were also accessed so personal information for those games yeah and I don't I don't know how well that thing that you're agreeing to is gonna actually hold up I suspect not at all I hold up yeah I agree but just be careful when you're clicking all this kind of stuff and just kind of assume if you've dealt with them that you're probably screwed yeah that's all I have to say about that one okay Wow um um oh what's app is finally monetizing Oh more interesting so this was originally posted by TechCrunch oops what's apps first ads appear on Facebook and start conversations with businesses da da so they announced their plan to eventually charge businesses stiring worries that businesses might be able to hold message users with sponsored message ads want to drop this in here apparently a New York Attorney General is already totally crapping on that agreement okay so like it probably not a big deal just just be aware of what's going on if you're affected by that so now code in Facebook's ad manager has been found that lets businesses buy ads with a send a whatsapp message button built in for now whatsapp isn't selling ads on its own but testing a whatsapp chat button on Facebook ads that directly opens a conversation with a business in whatsapp businesses will only be able to contact whatsapp users that have agreed to the message or have agreed to be messaged by initiating the conversation and sponsored messages will work the same way on facebook Messenger so businesses can pay to reconnect with people they're already chatting with hmm whatsapp initially promised not to show ads when it was acquired by Facebook for 19 billion in 2014 but I mean I don't know exactly what we said about it at the time but I'm pretty sure we probably called yeah a retailer apparently confirms this was posted by lobster Zoidberg on the forum on October 5th date for six core coffee lake processors dun dun duh this is a German site and what we're looking at here is a core i7 8700 K and 8700 both with six cores 12 threads and 12 Meg's of level 3 cache Wow single core and multi core boost of 4.7 and 4.3 gigahertz respectively in a TDP of 95 watts looking pretty good looking pretty sexy if ik I'm pretty stoked I been pretty clear that I'm super down for coffee Lake 6-core mainstream basically gives most people no reason to blow a bunch money on X 299 or X 399 so super awesome and that's pretty much it oh oh organization vlog 3 trailer oh damn is on Facebook now apparently so we can show it nice yep and we're gonna have to do the janky stupid audio sharing thing actually do hold on hold on hold on maybe there's a better way you don't have to do the Doppler effect when you're literally walking away from the mic like you don't have to mimic it because like it's actually happening I don't see it oh there it is oh this is exciting I haven't seen this we got this we got this okay one hour now hold on hold on I got a I got a setup okay I think okay so I apologize in advance if I am wrecking your guys you guys's ears there are people complaining about the sound already okay I don't know if this is going to work hold on let me try playing this okay it's working but it looks like it's pretty quiet on the levels so I'm gonna turn it up a bit and I'm gonna hope for the best okay here we go continue click to enter full screen uh-huh so this is up on floatplane already and hopefully this is gonna work way to go facebook video thank you for everything about what you are giving me promotions for full plane get it what is going on here click for more how about it just work option what if I click on how about you work that would be great no really okay let's just let's just reload this awesome why why you know work well while we get this trailer spun up if you go and look on floatplane you can just watch the whole thing right now so if you're a floatplane subscriber instead of just watching the trailer on LAN show through Linus's laptop which is failing to load because facebook you can just go watch it on the forum thanks Bixby actually I don't even like like is twitch explaining to me how this works no in some way I wonder if it's this sound device that's glitching it out what what even what even just I see this this is what I have to deal with around here oh okay so it's supposedly working now I wonder if it hates myself the scarlet as a sound output that would be weird my entire life is okay no it seems like it's working now okay what the crap alright so let's do it let's do it moving boxes from one shelf to the other sake of the show also the quality looks like crap they want better quality than anyone else before well you know what I don't know seven you know what I'll burn your house down residents in a buttery complex started running down the hallways oh that's exciting so man the staff union eise's or so they think I do not EXO nips there werenít other word oh okay um apparently sound it wasn't the intent of the content yeah that actually helps you on to it that's it you can have like full nudity if it's not the intent of the content really like if you play corner on Exile there's people running around dicks out boobs out whatever right it's not the intent of the game it's not the intent of the game to have dicks and boobs out I mean like there's a there's a main objective that isn't that I think I think that's more than what's going on cut got it makes sense okay well like I want to watch it now and I couldn't hear that so we're gonna play the game we're totally gonna play it again nice hold on [Laughter] all right now did you link the chat to floatplane already I didn't okay well you probably should we've got we've got a lot of great stuff over on floatplane right now what do we have we archive the daily live streams over there I'm just gonna screen share with you guys we've got the beanbag chair long jump which is like okay I'm gonna ruin one moment it's not actually the best moment but it's a pretty epic moment where is it for some reason it wasn't the intro I thought it was an awesome intro where is it well it's like it's like way in the video for some reason here we go here we go here we go here we go here we go here we go almost a collision that was the thing oh my goodness super scary neither James nor I saw each other come in yeah so we've got an episodes comparing a $60 CPU to a $600 CPU uh and the comparison is is less stupid than you would probably think we've got a tech quickie avoiding common PC building traps episode four we've got three reasons not to buy this four hundred dollar laptop Dell is not gonna be stoked on that one oh that's that's fun I'm excited for that we've got the 1920 by 1080 meme PC oh we built it oh that's funny we did we all we definitely did it the 1920x1080 try and figure out what hardware there's and that's in there baby can I give him a hint uh sure it came from a reddit thread from a like a while ago yeah someone tagged me in it and they were like if anyone's gonna do it it's you guys and I for it to Linus and was like just an idea kind of a dumb idea but but but it's also us let's do it it's our kind of dumb idea this actually ended up being a far more informative video then you'd probably think LTT MacBook Pro stands okay most of them suck so we figured out which ones suck and which ones are actually decent which is good because even if you don't have a MacBook Pro user for other laptops you use them for any laptop yep um organization vlog day three the finale is up and what else we got yeah I think that's I think that's pretty much it yeah there might be yeah there might be like one more on here because we we released note eight simultaneously so there's probably something here that I'm not seeing but yeah that's pretty much it so thank you guys for tuning in to the LAN show we've got a great show for you next week same bat-time same bat-channel yeah I'm tired I'm like actually tired yo this week has been more frustrating than usual so I had the whole thing where I unwisely I admit decided to put not clickbait in a title on one of our videos yeah it wasn't clickbait I don't let people hate that but people hate that and they looks like some Paul ER stuff right there they got some they got they got consumed by the hating that and certainly we ignored the video missed the satire and missed that it was not clickbait and then and then there was like like after that there were people talking about how clickbait the title of the next day's video this Hyperloop pod has real hover engines there's not clickbait at all because it's a Hyperloop pod and it has hover engines and they're real and then there were all the people kind of missing the point of the Hyperloop video basically people were mad because hyper loops are not practical and they sort of missed the part where it's an engineering competition and this isn't like a government installing a nationwide train system this is oh I haven't read the comments but like let's just address that for a moment it like if this is the US government trying to install train systems across the entire country and forcing you to ride them and forcing you to ride them and pay for them and pay for them then you can like debate about how practical they are this was an engineering competition and it was privately hosted and so why the hell do you care I mean you can if you really really want to get pedantic about it you can talk about how Elon Musk's has gotten a lot of government funding yeah because he's done a lot of awesome stuff and etcetera etc but basically that was really frustrating there's been a lot of hate on the tech quickie intro someone is one of the chatted loose disappointed in us I kind of am i come from a sciency background and you have to try things you constantly have to try things and if you look at like the different technologies that have come out of NASA research for instance a lot of times it's you try something and you go like okay well maybe our actual main goal wasn't it wasn't realized but through messing with these magnets and trying to cool down stuff that doesn't have air flowing by it and trying to elevate really really heavy objects and move them really really quick on magnets we learnt weird things about I don't know I'm gonna pull a bunch of stuff up my butt superconductors or or cooling things without air and like all this other kind of stuff that becomes helpful in other areas doing things because of learning is a very good thing so shush so I thought it was a really cool piece and basically people kind of crapped on it and I was just like well I feel like some of it was just that there's some negative sentiment out there and I think people were kind of finding something to get upset about make sense I also think that there's a lot of I think that a lot of people feel felt like they were being sold something even though they weren't they were like this isn't gonna okay so a lot of people drew parallels between the Hyperloop and like the Hyperloop competition video we made and something like the solar freakin roadways video but the difference is that nobody is asking for your money so that that's one huge difference and was that not spend anything so they're like debunked debunked and it's like debunked and look in in a tone that was like don't buy this it's been debunked but no one's asking you to buy anything it's just it's just it's a science a competition so I feel like people were people had sort of like a personal investment in you know trying to save other people from this thing that's really bad when actually nobody is know but then they're like yeah and the hype like this one comment was particularly ignorant and they're building it in California and one of the most earthquake-prone areas in the world nobody is building it anywhere because it isn't a thing it's an engineering competition right now so that we can like learn some stuff and weren't they just okay I don't know but weren't they just making the sled yeah they were just making pods yeah and then they had a one-mile test track that some teams got to go down as fast as they could yeah yeah anyways so that's where we're at and then the note 8 video had an error in it okay and we had to pull it down even if it was debunked I don't know but even if or if part of it was debunked or whatever that's the point of science like parts of it are thoroughly debunked great but no one is trying to build that like there's a lot of us I talked about this a little bit last night but it seems like the people crying debunked are assuming that all of the scientists and engineers at SpaceX and all these universities haven't taken a grade 11 physics course like like they're not aware that sudden decompression due to like a bullet hole in the Hyperloop tube would be bad and uh my biggest thing is like trying things and failing and then trying again and with with knowing how and why you failed and growing from there is like literally the whole point and retesting things and other people challenging your claims and all that kind of stuff is how science worked so it it's completely unhelpful yeah going oh look I theorized these things and I think you're wrong because of this data and I think this is interesting because whatever great at risk of getting a little offensive here I feel like a lot of it is the science as a religion crowd where they just kind of go you know it's it's about it becomes like a fanboy mentality like I like I'm I got it I got to like defend this because because science said it and sometimes I feel like that gets that energy it's the wrong those people think they really like science and it's really that they just really don't like other things and they forget that the scientific method is rather important I'm gonna address one comment here really quick yeah ECU underscore 55 said we just want review all capital letters on you we just want reviews dr. Todd people are tired of clickbait none of these things have been clicked me you're just tired of question that you don't want there's a difference what should I review yeah what's what's happening in the computer world right now that has you raring to go you've got a review of everything that mattered in the last I don't know we've got a review of the know date we've got a review of all three variants of Rison top four including thread Ripper we've got a review of Scientology is not science as a religion oh my god sorry wow that's a completely different so science as a religion is taking a faith-based approach to science yeah and basically treating something science see that somebody told you as fact without worrying much about the method by which we arrived there when like what science is built on is questioning things and trying things yeah looking more deeply into stuff that's what we mean by that it has nothing at all to do with Scientology Scientology is a cult boom I support that how what was I talking about before that though it seemed important sorry I don't remember right yeah what are we supposed to review oh yeah are we supposed to review like yet another mother we jumped on everything that's come out lately super hard I mean I I know there's people out there that really do want us to review a motherboard but what exactly would you expect us to say about it it's pretty good man seems okay it's got to RGB headers like it's pieces where all the fan spots are its unboxings at that point yeah and like they're honestly I have a motherboard review coming sometime in the next few weeks it'll be as rocks X 299 Mini ITX board because that is freaking cool but the the way to this of it sorry someone in the chat it's a blue except when I change it to red yeah so that one's freaking cool and whenever something freakin cool shows up I'm and I'm gonna jump on it another motherboard video that I'm gonna have coming hopefully in the next little bit is a soos released aboard with 19 PCI Express slots - that's crazy yeah that's cool that's different and that's something like even then it's not unboxing because we're just gonna have to find some weird way to do something with yeah well it's some kind of mining application or something we'll hook 19 GPUs up to it and you're out of town but that's something interesting enough to do something but that's the thing is you guys gotta understand I can't make a video that bores me what is the point are you gonna like it if I say the same thing that I that I'm always saying what's what are the features of this motherboard what are the features of a motherboard it fits the other stuff that you can buy and connects it all also it's got a great audio codec which is important and RGB lighting which you may or may not think is important um like a lot a huge amount of motherboard stuff you could find way more efficiently and in a better format by just looking at the spec sheet on the lips and I mean it's tough too because even a lot of like non IT stuff like phone stuff pretty consolidated like with manufacturers like HTC Nokia released a thing that's people seem to care about LG's v30 people seem to kind of care about but even like pixel two there's basically no hype like we're pretty much down to a half a dozen phone releases a year that anyone really cares about server stuff no no say what it's got more cores than last year which is good which is cool and if we find a cool application for it okay again I do have a plan with some of the more recent server stuff I want to do something with AMD epoch where we do a half-a-dozen video editing workstations running off of a single tower I think that would be super cool there was a guy by the way at PAX b-y-o-see yeah I didn't enter ever get to meet him but there's a guy there that's a fan of Linus tech tips yeah and had one I didn't notice it when I when I walked past I was like that's a very interesting computer and like kind of looked at a little bit but then she just kept walking by I didn't realize it was two setups in one Tower nice it was an unread build it was a beautiful black and green which is not that common so I love seeing them it lands black and green beautiful looking unread builds with his system on one side of the table and someone else's on the other side of the table night it was really cool and I yeah I wish I actually got to talk to him but um so yeah if we can find an application for it like I guarantee you something we're gonna do with the upcoming Intel hire core count high-end desktop parts expect to see an on raid build where we do a streaming machine and the gaming machine that goes with it two discrete discrete function machine in a single tower first track don't alright so thanks for watching Rancho we'll see you again next week same bat-time same bat-channel like do more old stuff okay so the problem with old stuff is there's a finite amount of yeah inherently there is a finite there is there will be more coming yeah there's moral and for at the very least one more yeah like and that'll be good yeah all right thanks again