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$1200 Bang-for-the-Buck Gaming Rig & $200 Mom and Pop System - November Builds

2015-11-06
hey what's up everyone and welcome to Paul's hardware this is my monthly builds video for November 2015 so click right up front explanation of how this actually works every months or theoretically every month I do a couple builds I create these builds in theory so you're gonna be looking at today is not actual systems I'm putting together it is going to be parts lists so if you're here to see a build don't fret I do build these sometimes but what these we are looking at today is builds based on your feedback the one that I did just last months for October we actually built so this is the $500 powder that was a seven hundred dollar system because they didn't have a graphics card we basically built the system or had a graphics card we basically built the system without the graphics card which made it about 150 bucks cheaper and you guys can check that out it's on my channel it's live right now and that build turned out quite nicely it's very happy with that so beyond that I also get some feedback from you guys and that's how I decide which systems I'm actually going to put together in theory these systems are the cost of the system that I'm listening in the title of this video is just the system doesn't include a monitor or peripherals or Windows so bear that in mind as well unless I say otherwise of course because I have done full builds as well and lastly I wanted to point out that you guys should vote because the builds I'm doing today which is gonna be a $1200 bang for the buck gaming system this is based on last month's straw poll what kind of bills do you guys want to see for November it's all hundred-dollar bang for the buck system one so I got that I'm actually pretty excited about how that system came together with what's available right now and some of these deals that are going on for the Black Friday holiday time period of the year and then one last thing is that I'm not planning on building any of these systems that I'm outlining for this month I am already working on some December builds though or getting parts together to do one of the systems in December so everyone please go ahead and vote and for anyone who's in chat right now I want to post this so you guys can vote as well on what you want to see for December now for this straw poll I did the votes based on CPUs or the system is based on CPU so you're basically gonna choose a system or choose a CPU and then I will build a system kind of based on that I try to mix it up how the builds are formulated each month defect in so we got a 59 60 X 60 700 K I 3 60 100 which is the new skylake CPU that just launched it's a dual-core but it does have hyper threading interesting interesting situation there but super budget skylake or about his budget sky like as you can get also also have a couple Athlon CPUs in there the x-48 60k is an ever-popular super budget AMD chip that you can build with although performance wise it's you know you kind of get what you pay for so I was actually on the fence about building with that chip today but I didn't there's also the FX 6300 which is AMD's six core CPU which is a bit more expensive than the 860 K but also very popular kind of bang for the buck CPU so guys you can vote on more than one of those if you want just let me know what you're interested in seeing and for today we are going to jump into the $1200 build first here's all my saved parts list so you can see my builds I've been for for instance May July August September October now they're all the way down here in November so there's my twelve hundred dog gaming bang for the buck system and then now we're also gonna be taking a look after that at my two hundred dollar mom-and-pop system I have listed this one as a three hundred dollar system but actually when I parted it out last night got it all the way down to two hundred dollars which is pretty awesome anyway let's take a look at the November 1 first this is twelve hundred dollars total this includes CPU cooler motherboard memory storage video card case and power supply again guys peripherals and and operating system for instance are up to you but I I squeezed a lot of power into $1200 when I first had the $1200 price point I was like you know that's gonna be really based on mainly the game or the graphics card so what's the best graphics card I can squeeze into a system for $1200 so I went right for the top with the 980ti now you can actually get those for a little bit more of a discount now 630 bucks as opposed to 650 from there I went to the CPU and I felt that kind of like the best CPU to pair with the 980 TI like you can't you can't do a 980 TI in a and you know an 860 K or something like that you got to give it something something some CPU performance to back up the GPU performance so I went with a 6600 K and from there it was just a matter of how much money I had left over for all the rest of the parts so those two parts together are what eight hundred and almost $900 right so that basically leaves you with about three hundred dollars for the rest of the stuff that you might need in there which is doable but let's see how it turned out and all came together right so CP of course 6600 K bear in mind guys you for shopping for a 6600 K right now these are still hard to find sometimes so whereas the Amazon listed price here was 252 and 255 it's actually not available that's sold out so the one that have lists on Amazon is 320 you can still get it a new egg they have stock but they're selling it for 20 bucks more 270 dollars if you happen to live close to a Micro Center go into the store and buy one there it's a great way to do it beyond that we have to have a cooler for the 6600 K since the skylake CPUs do not ship with CPU coolers built into them so the hyper 212 plus bang for the buck great this is a bang for the buck system in my opinion hyper 212 was the best bang for the buck CPU at CPU cooler I even saved like three or four dollars by going with the 212 plus instead of the 212 Evo performance honestly is pretty much exactly the same Wow you can't even get this for as little as 20 bucks right now if you include a mail-in rebate in there I usually don't include mail and rebates when it comes to the pricing of the stuff that we're looking at here is the motherboard and actually before I before I dive into that let's take a look at the graphics card since those are kind of my to start out parts that I went with $630 so 20 bucks off the $650 price point for a 980 TI and if you're spending 1,200 bucks then I think it's worth getting a 980 TI if you're not into the 980 TI if you're on seam read get a fury X and it's the same price or right around the same price and performance goes up or down depending on what you're testing and what drivers using and stuff but if your ex is still still doing really great job even up against them I like both of those and this is a ZOTAC one it's aftermarket cooled so it's gonna run cooler and quieter and it does come a little bit overclocked out of the box as well and you probably able to overclock this a little bit better than the stock or reference model okay moving on once I had those two parts in the bag at was just a matter of what is the cheapest z170 board I can get well a cheaper z170 boards right now are going to cost you around a hundred bucks I found this one from asrock it's a z170a matte pro 4s so it's LGA 1151 we needed z170 since we have a 6600 k the reason I went with that is if you're looking at bang for the buck in an overclockable processor you need to overclock it this is not the best overclocking motherboard buy that I might you won't be able to get the most overclocking but you should be able to least put a 6 push the 6600 K to four point two to four point four gigahertz another than that this board doesn't look too bad it's got kind of a little bit of a copper accents on the heat sinks there and black overall so not too shabby it's even got an MDOT 2 slot which you might be able to see kind of right there in the middle so you can drop in an MDOT two if you need to other than that it's got four dimm slots pretty pretty standard you know feature set apart from that I wanted to show the i/o because that's you know kind of useful there's i/o you know you got your USB 3.0 and HDMI only thing it doesn't really have that I thought like would be nice would be an a USB type-c connector but hey we're looking for bang for the buck and type-c is convenience and but not necessarily to get you any more performance for memory I was thinking I was going to have to go with a four gig single stick for this build and I was looking at those and then I realized you can get a two by four gig ddr4 memory kit right now for about 50 bucks so I would this one and of course last night it was in stock in this morning it's at a it's out of stock so this is a team memory kit it's all black so it'll match and it's ddr4 3000 in fact you can get ddr4 21 33 or 2400 kits 2x4 gig kits so if this is one isn't in stock right here just use that convenient PC park picker drill down thing and find yourself an 8 gig 2 by 4 gig kit of ddr4 memory gotta be ddr4 and and and you should be good to go even if it's 2133 2133 at 2400 you're not going to be using the eye GPU so I find it that storage this is the place where I probably see ya this is where I felt the hurt from the budgets the most was in storage I was looking at what to put in here and I ended up deciding on this hundred and twenty gig team SSD it's $40 $40 now what I would want to put in here is like a 240 or 256 gig SSD that's kind of my standard right now and those you can get for 70 or 80 bucks this was just to stay within the price but it's not even a bad SSD all that you know all that said as well and hello it's everyone in chat I told you I hi thank you thank you guys everyone who's live right now you guys are fantastic and thanks for joining me okay but this SSD like 120 gigs look at the rating it's got a five-star feedback I think it's a SandForce controller or something like that but it's a team it's scat 550 megabytes per second reads and writes 520 megabytes per second rounds 5 550 reads lease and I ops anyway it's gonna get you the speed that you need but this is the one major caveat from this system this $1200 system that I've put together as is hundred and twenty gig storage is all you have so the Assumption here is that you have a hard drive lying around somewhere an old laptop hard drive perhaps something that's in the 500 gig range or higher that you would also drop into the system otherwise you're gonna be limited to like you know GTA 5 and maybe one other game that you can install on this SSD so that's that's my that's my biggest shortcoming on the system but hey it's still within budget moving right along since it's micro micro ATX board I went with a micro ATX case this is a cooler master n 200 which as you can see here again has a $20 million rebate which isn't included in the price here but you can get it for pretty cheap forty to fifty dollars ish and this is a nice case part of the reason it's in this combos because it's a it was actually combo'd with some of the other parts that are going on here but you got some USB 3.0 front panel everything you'd really need nice ventilation and all that good stuff let me pull up some better pictures painted interior it looks pretty nice it's got space for whatever you know for the stuff you'd want to fit in there lots of length for that lengthy 980ti graphics card and just a nice budget case all around it'll kinda it does it gets the job done the only thing that I might want to do is now it's even got two fans for some reason I thought it didn't have a fan in the front but it does anyway pull the master and 200 matches with the hybrid 212 finally we needed a power supply and again go into the budget I was like alright we need at least 600 watts for a 780ti and I want 80 plus bronze because that's the minimum I'll go with when it comes to power supply efficiency rating and yeah 80 plus bronze 650 watts turns out oh and it can't be like super ghetto like it can't be one of those no-name brands I've never heard of so Silverstone is a reputable brand when it comes to power supplies they have this one available on amazon 650 watt 80 plus bronze this has like a hardware which shoot shoot this one has a gold award from hot hardware I believe I think that's right anyway this this was very positively reviewed by one of the sites that actually does full power supply testing and everything it's not going to look very pretty it does not have good cabling it's not modular but it will get the job been 650 watts and you should be you should be pretty good 50 amps on each 12 volt rail so that's enough for a 980ti and that's all $1200 for a gaming system which includes a 980 TI and a 6600 k and a pretty decent feature set besides that again just add add a hard drive or something in there that's pretty happy of this 1200 bucks anyway you guys are you're shopping for you know you send in your Christmas lists out or whatever to your parents or whatnot check that out and yeah I'm impressed with what you can get from your money for that alright let's move on to the next build the next build is a mom-and-pop system when I talk about a mom-and-pop system and basically saying not for gaming and not for doing any like heavy lifting if you want to do this for for like work or something like that if you want to use this for like AutoCAD or I don't know anything that requires a lot of CPU power this is not the system for you this is a budget system it costs $200.00 and this is also uses a BGA ball grid array integrated CPU on a motherboard and that starts off right here but the total price is just under two hundred dollars hundred ninety eight ninety five total from right here and it's all starts out with this Intel quad core Celeron processor the J 1900 which is integrated into the as rock this asrock motherboard there's only a couple motherboards you can get there's an as rock and a Battlestar I kind of view bass rock as a step above Biostar which you should probably too but you get your cpu built in there and it's even got a little passive cooler on it so it's not going to make much noise beyond that you know the motherboard has kind of the features that you would expect it's got integrated video so that's your GPU your CPU and your motherboard all kind of in the same little thing here so it's got HDMI out DVI if you're going 1080 you got support for all that it's even got some legacy ps2 ports on there basic sound options this will do your basic computering just as you might expect and and I was looking at it I was like that's pretty cool Tevan got two DIMM slots even though they're set at perpendicular angles to each other which is different you don't see that too often but hey they're trying to cut down on the board space beyond that we need some memory so with a single stick for eighteen dollars of Team Elite four gig memory you want to go with faster memory if possible but the board's only rated for 1333 so I just went for 1333 this is a single four gig stick and then you even have a little bit of upgrade so you can pop in another four gig stick if you wanted to and hey they're only $18 I'll get the job done the harder the hard drive or rather hybrid hard drives less slash SSD is the one here that I was a little bit on the fence about this is the Seagate 500 gig momentous XT which is a heart hybrid it's got a 500 gig hard drive and then it's also got some NAND flash in there that works as a caching drive for for the the the spinning mechanical drive it makes it perform the performance you get that kind of instant responsiveness in a lot of situations like you would expect with an SSD without opting to pay for an SSD and you get 500 gigs of space and for mom-and-pop system it's simple it's viewed by as just a single drive you don't need to do any configuration or setup stuff and it is noticeably faster than a standard hard drive now look looking at the prices here for this at Amazon you can get it for $58 however the other pricing on this is more expensive closer to 100 don't buy this for $100 if you're getting anything more than 50 $60 for this remember that for 70 or 80 you can get a 240 256 gig SSD and I would definitely recommend that over this dread this one I just went with because definitely little bit cheaper 500 gigs of storage so she'll be plenty for a mom-and-pop system and again you get that kind of SSD ish performance with it so I think it was a good choice you can shave off a good 40 50 40 ish dollars off of the price of the system by going with like a bare bone dirt cheap 160 gig mechanical spinning drive which you can find on Amazon for like 20 bucks or less so keep that in mind as a possibility if you're really trying to save money finally we needed a power supply and a case I found that in this Roseville r37 9 - M micro ATX slim case taking advantage of the fact that you know we're really not planning on popping in a graphics card or anything too expansive in this this is ATX case it's got the power supply integrated it's a pretty basic look black and white doesn't need to look too pretty just needs to get the job done which means it can fit your motherboard in there it's got the hard drive integrated again not going to look pretty but it's going to get the job done now one thing one final thing I need to point out with this case and this build just in the interest of full disclosure is that you would need one of these this is a 3.5 inch to 2.5 inch drive bay adapter that Rozsival case does not have a 2.5 inch drive mount these you can find in your old box of computer parts if you're me I actually have way too many of these or otherwise they're they're really easy to find so make sure you got one of those have got to mount that drive in there the way you should anyway that's all for this video guys I really appreciate you guys stopping by if you're watching live I know I don't do these and a regular like cadence I don't have like specific times that I set up so anyone who is watching you guys are just kind of they're on point for when I went live or when I tweeted about it if you guys want to see more videos like this then of course subscribe to my youtube channel Paul's Hardware hit the like button the thumbs up button down there if you enjoyed it again I'm not building either of these systems that I went over today but I do have some builds on the channel and they're my builds playlist if you want to check that out and then I will be building a build I built I build the I build be building a build in December so make sure you vote in the the straw poll the link is down in the description and also in December are coming up soon I have this that system right there that's an ass that I built with Logan just recently so I'm working on that edit and getting that all together too anyway thank you guys so much for watching and we'll see you all next time
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