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the master case each 500 M by Coolermaster sports duel to order millimetre addressable RGB fans a USB 3.1 gen2 type-c port and 4 tempered glass side panels both sides top and front and the front can swap out for a mesh panel if you want maximum airflow it has a plethora of cable routing covers to keep things tidy too so click the sponsor link in the description to learn more so guys I may have gotten a little overexcited about this thread report to lunch but hear me out these new CPUs slots into an existing x3 99 motherboard all it needs is a BIOS update and I just finished putting the system together the easily upgradable Riptide which is also custom water cools and I have this system over here on my left the Arctic Panther build with the 79 60 X which is a 16 core 32 thread processor seemed like a good comparison to the threader for 22950 X that AMD just sent over and both of these systems have two-way issue Strix gtx 980ti s and sli and everything is custom water-cooled so why not set up a massive battle between Riptide and arctic panther well there are a few reasons so 3 over 2 is AMD's 12 nanometers n plus based follow-up to their first ever high-end desktop platform that they launched last year with the X 399 chipset and TR 4 socket they promised a 32 core 64 thread processor on this platform with threader / - back at Computex and details has sort of trickled out over the past couple months so here are the four actual CPUs that AMD is launching the 32 core 2990 WX available today the 16 core 29 50 X that I am testing today that's going to be out on August 31st and then they 12 and 24 core variants that were expecting to launch in October ultimately though things just did not go smoothly with my testing and I mainly attribute that to my choice to do benchmark comparisons on to custom water-cooled builds with 1080 TI's in sli if you guys came here looking for some cpu performance comparisons don't worry I've got you covered there but when it comes to gaming and overclocking I'm just not comfortable sharing my full results just yet that said let's go over the hardware that I'll be using to test and compare today so test setup number one is Riptide right here and that is going to feature either the AMD risin thread Ripper 1950 X which is a 16 core 32 thread CPU launched last year or the new thread repair 29 50 X 2 16 or 32 thread to CPU just launching today it's got an asus x3 99 zenith extreme motherboard in there running the latest UEFI version that aces provided 0:06 for it's also a fully custom liquid-cooled with parts provided by alpha cool it's got a foreigner and 20 millimeter radiator in the top and push-pull just for the CPU but please note it's a CPU block I'm using it's not designed specifically for threader / so I'm only expecting standard water cooling performance here it's also got two Asus Strix GTX 1080 OC cards running it they're out of the box manufacturer overclock that's about nineteen seventy-five megahertz boost on this system four by eight gigs of g-scale flex ddr4 3200 memory and quad channel and I did swap this in originally I have 128 gig and Corsair Vengeance RGB kit and here but fortunately although it did take a little bit of finagling I was able to remove those sticks and pop these and this is simply to maintain memory equivalency between both systems 32 gigs total and with the XMP settings it's running at 3200 speed with timings of 14 14 14 34 and 1.3 5 volts for storage Windows 10 is loaded on the coarser Neutron nx500 400 gig nvme SSD and then the power supplies the corsair x 1600 i've if you'd like some more details on the hardware in the system because there's actually a secondary system in the bottom two it's in the coarser 1000 d please check out my Riptide build blog series it's extensive and dramatic I highly recommend it the sky like X system though here my left is arctic panther of course which has been through multiple iterations but right now it's sporting a core I nine 79 60 X from Intel 16 cores and 32 threads to the same court and thread count on both systems asus rog Strix x - 99 - a gaming motherboard and then storage in this system is Windows 10 on the Toshiba OC zrd 400 one terabyte nvme SSD for excellent are 3 1000 watt power supply and for 8 gig sticks of g.skill trident z RGB ddr4 memory running at that same 3200 XMP setting then of course for graphics cards - asus strix gtx 980ti is once again water-cooled once again overclock they're still using the out of the box manufacturer overclock but i found late in my testing and this is part of the reason why my gaming testing is not complete these two cards are actually running at 1962 megahertz which just a little bit slower than Riptide but it was enough that there's a disparity if you look strictly at the GPU performance the GPU driver though is the latest from nvidia 398 - and I'm also running AMD's Rison master software on the threader per system and Intel's turbo boost max 3.0 on the skylake X system for comparison I'm also going to throw in my original threader for 1950 X benchmarks from last year updated 1950 X benchmarks with the Riptide cooling 2950 X in Riptide and of course C 79 60 X in arctic panther so starting off with Cinebench this is based on Maxim's cinema4d software and it uses all of the cores and threads on the CPU to render a scene so here we can see a bit of an uplift from last year's 1950 X results to this year's 1950 X results the winner here is definitely the 2950 X though as it scored 31 28 interestingly the 79 60 X came in just between at the 1950 X and the 29 50 X moving over to a single thread mode and this basically tells the story of AMD versus Intel right now AMD is going to win your multi-threaded benchmarks Intel's gonna win your single threaded benchmarks as these 70 960 X here with the score of 188 next up a CPU mark which is part of the pass mark benchmarking Suites here again we have multi-core mode where the 29 50 X wins again with the score of 26,000 661 the 79 60 X is still beating my 1950 X scores but it is good to see that Zen Plus is giving the 2950 X a nice push and then here in single thread mode the 29 50 X manages to pull on upsets and score 20 286 over the 79 60 X's score of 22 11 I believe this is the benefits of XF are coming into play which will push a single or a couple threads up to a much higher frequency with the new rising thread river processors next up we have blender which is a free open source 3d creation suite and I have three different tests that I ran in blender the shortest of which is the fishing cat splash screen and this is time in seconds so lower is better the 29 put TX wins with a time of 20 4.6 seconds next is BMW 27 a more complex render which takes a little bit more time so here the 29 50 X came out on top again with 154 second total completion time although the 79 60 X is right on its heels with a time of hundred 58 seconds and finally the classroom render which takes the most amount of time out of any of these and here the 29 50 X and 70 960 X are essentially in a dead heat with a time of 495 496 seconds next is pov-ray 3.7 just using the built in benchmark here this is a software suite that uses the sea to compute ray-tracing in order to complete a render and here the 2950 X wins once again with a total time of 40 2.6 seconds here the 79 60 X struggled a bit and actually wasn't even able to beat the 1950 X and here are the results for Adobe Premiere Pro CC actually Adobe Media encoder rendering a six-minute 4k video at h.264 and here the 29 50 X comes out on top once again with a total time of 669 seconds now let's switch over to some more game focused testing and we're starting out with 3d mark firestrike ultra I have to point out here that the 1950 X results I have are just with a single GT X 1080 Ti so please bear that in mind the 1950 X in Riptide 2950 X and 70 960 X are using two-way GT X 1080 T is in SLI ultimately though the overall and graphic scores here are less important what we really want to look at is the physics score if we're specifically interested in CPU performance and here the 79 60 X wins just barely with the score of 27,000 147 and then here is 3d mark times pi which is a DirectX 12 synthetic tests in the 3d mark Suites and again here we can look at the CPU score if we want to compare those numbers specifically everything is still really close here although for some reason in this test specifically the 2950 X started to tank and fall back a little bit in fact the high score here is from my old last year score for the 1950 X I don't have a very good explanation for this but my guess would be that with the 210 ATT is in SLI you're seeing more frames which bogs down the CPU a little bit more which results in a lower CPU score in this test specifically and my final numbers here for GTA 5 which are just a little bit off if you're looking at them directly specifically that 79 60 X score more on that in just a second but I will say that the 2950 X did have an impressive performance here with an overall FPS of 139 and this is playing at 1920 by 1080 which will put a little bit more strain on the CPU as opposed to the GPU so at this point I would usually transition into some gaming benchmarks and I was starting with GTA 5 and I was doing stuff like turning game mode on for the 1950 X and 2950 X using the rise in master software but I'm also benchmarking at 1920 by 1080 and that's simply to put more of a load on the CPU rather than the GPU we're supposed to be testing CPU comparisons here by the way and I should have just got to rewatched my own at to wait n atti video from last year and I would have remembered the GTA 5 doesn't really scale in SLI at 1080 least does a little bit if you get up to 4k but then arctic panther started acting weird with choppiness and starring as you can maybe see in its low numbers and then I ran out of time basically I was jumping back and forth between both systems and trying to do a lot at the same time in doing troubleshooting and eventually I was like you know what I don't have time to complete a full summation of either of the things that I want to do so I kind of have to leave it at that I'm really sorry guys but at least I do have those cpu comparison numbers and I am planning on looping back around and spending some more time with the overclocking and everything so I can give you guys some additional comparisons some quick temperature numbers though the 2950 x only got up to about 66 degrees Celsius the 79 60 X was topping at 58 degrees Celsius so I think the monoblock clear out that I did in there was definitely helping and clearly there is some overclocking Headroom so I should get to that overclocking attempts with Rison master 2 that I did try on the threader 4 to stuff we're kind of hit and miss it can be hard to get yourself additional performance with manual overclocking and thread Ripper I did manage a four point one five gigahertz overclock across all cores and then ran CPU mark successfully so that improved my overall score but the single thread score on that test suffered because at stock with xfr to one or two cores will often run at four point three or four point four gigahertz on a twenty-nine 50 X which would then perform better in tests that only use one or two threads probably also would perform better with gaming there is though a new overclocking method called precision boost overdrive now that lets you set values for socket power SOC voltage and BRM current and then runs higher frequencies within those parameters again I saw some early success with this method but overclocking is time consuming and lots of restarts involvement stuff so I just really need to spend a few more evenings messing with these tools and come back with a follow up video if you guys are looking at raw CPU performance though but the rise in thread Ripper - in the 2950 X Andy has clawed back some of the single thread performance gap from Intel by way of higher frequencies and the refinement old nanometer manufacturing process in this core for match up the 2950 x held its own and even traded some blows with these 7950 x buts when you take price to performance into account it becomes a complete blowout $900 is the price that you pay for the 29 50 X whereas the 79 60 X retails for 1,700 people can currently be found for about 1450 still the 29 50 X is over $500 cheaper I hope you guys enjoyed this video though and my once again for not diving into the gaming and overclocking subjects in more detail but I will end by sending you guys on a raid I know this is a twitch but we're doing a twitch that raid go over to hardware unboxed because I know Steve did a ton of benchmarks for this launch like he always does and he has the 32 core 2990 WX on hand which I plan to steal from him very soon hit the like button on the way out if you enjoyed this video the guys and we'll see you all next time