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hey everyone welcome to Paul's hardware today's video is my July builds if you guys saw my video in May I decided hey every month of the beginning of the month I'm going to do monthly builds I am 1 for 2 so far because I did not do this at the beginning of June because I was at Computex I was still gonna do it but then too much time went by anyway point being welcome to my July builds for 2015 and the two builds that I'm going to go over today are pretty interesting I kind of like them one is an entry-level x99 system or haswell-e and those two terms don't necessarily go together but I'll explain when we come to that one kind of what I what my mo was for that particular build we also have a $450 console killer I'm using the term console killer because it's very popular in search results search results right now but yeah it's a foreign $50 build with the potential for a GPU upgrade and I think you guys will like that one - that's a good of re-build godhavari it's the new AMD APU but the way this is gonna work these videos in general is at the beginning of each month I will introduce a couple new builds and you guys can take those builds and rework them for yourselves or just go for it and build them if you want to I'm going to be using PC part pickers so a big thanks to them for building a fantastic website that makes it really easy to put builds together the links to PC part picker will be in the video's description on youtube so you can check that out but also there is interaction involved with this video because I want you guys to tell me what builds you want me to do next month if that makes sense so I have a strawpoll link I'm also doing this live did I mention this is live yeah now the straw pull link I'll post there that and chat if you guys want to want to check that out and right over here so go to the straw poll and vote on what kind of system builds you guys want to see me do in August so I have another console killer and all-around one a few other options in there and you can choose more than one choice so go ahead and do that and it will be fun and fantastic in the meantime though let's dive right into build number one which is my $450 console killer now basically what I wanted to do with this build that's the way the way I do all these builds is I come at it with sort of an idea of the build overall so console killer was what I was going for I was going for low budget so you want around 400 500 ish dollars if you're going for the console killer thing because it needs to be price competitive with the consoles of course and then from there I just chose parts that I felt were appropriate for this level of build in this price points and then I picked what's what now of course there's options for pretty much every single part in here for the most part that you can swap out but you can do that or you can use my building and do whatever you want I did make a couple of assumptions with this build though one is that you it does not have a GPU you're gonna be using the APU that's what keeps the price down but you could easily upgrade to a GPU in the future second assumption is that there's no mass storage included with this particular bill which means that you would probably want to add some I did do an SSD because that's kind of my mo for builds in general I like to have SSDs they're just a lot faster it gives a much better computing experience but you will probably run out of space fairly quickly especially if you're installing video games on the system so another hard drive to add to this system and older like I don't know 500 gig or terabyte hard drive that you might have lying around would really round the whole thing out although other than that there's an SSD included and and let's just kind of start talking about the parts now AMD has been doing ap use for a while and this is their gut Avari and d810 78 70 K this is what it's based around so this is the basically the CPU and GPU in one now I most often recommend AMD's AP use because on the CPU side they're not incredibly powerful intel has more powerful CPU options at that at this price point which is right around a hundred and fifty bucks by the way but AMD's integrated graphics are very good and especially for what you get and everything so this is their newest one it's good of re is the codename for at seventy eight seventy K it's 3.9 gigahertz it's quad core and the integrated graphics you can get by with playing games on so that's kind of where we're starting off the next is the motherboard which you kind of need a home base for this type of thing of course I wanted Mini ITX because the console killer thing seems to fit better when it's actually console sized or roughly that size for fitting in a home theater or something like that so this as rocks FM 288 X I TX plus motherboard pretty basic mini ITX motherboard there's not actually not a whole lot of mini ITX FM to plus some other boards that are out there but this one's very full-featured you've got tons of choices as far as I oh there's the connectivity at the back so you got a couple HDMI is in a dual link DVI and this again will get you by and it has a PCI Express x16 slot which you're not going to use for this particular build but you would use if you wanted to drop a graphics card in here and I'd say for this build 150 to 200 a graphics card would do a great job something like a gtx 960 for example or a m-- these competing graphics cards in the same range you do need memory and whenever you're doing an APU builds and you're relying on the integrated graphics this is the only time I really recommend getting faster memory this is why this g.skill ripjaws z kit that I chose is actually 2,400 speed which is pretty fast for a ddr3 memory you can get by with 1600 speed with a normal build but the 2400 speed memory in this case will give you much better GPU performance for if you're using the integrated GPU of course and only 60 bucks for a 2x4 gig kit pretty good deal alright moving along I didn't integrate storage and like I said I like to do SSDs so this is an a data Premiere Pro SP 600 I've used the m2 version of this drive actually it's pretty pretty solid drive I forget the controller that it uses all I know is it's not SandForce when it comes to SATA rev3 SSDs as long as it's not sand force I mean San force drives are okay too it's just you you don't always get the best performance when it comes to come in compressible data whereas the other drives that are using other controllers don't suffer from that problem anyway so there's your solid-state drive the a data premiere pro and only 80 bucks for a 256 gig freaking SSD that's incredible for a case I went with an old standby for Mini ITX that's the cooler Master Elite 130 you can see this has very good ratings across the board and that is because of multiple different things here let's check out the actual Newegg page four is 45 bucks there is a newer version of this but it's like 30 or 40 bucks more it's got a nice overall look it's got USB 3.0 in the front mini ITX even you have a full-size five-minute quarter inch bay that you can use or not use depending on how you want to configure things and and new gigs makes pictures aren't loading it for me very fast it's got a pretty good layout inside and you can fit a full-size ATX power supply full ATX although the length of it might be limited but this has really good reviews overall and I've worked with it before so it's a case that I can recommend and for the price which is as little as thirty bucks right now if you are ok with mail and rebates holy crap the elite 130 from Coolermaster and that brings us to the last component for this build which is the power supply and for this one my qualifications for the power supply was I wanted around 500 watts so you could accommodate a full-size GPU if you decided to drop that in here I wanted 80 plus bronze at least which this has ATX of course to be compatible with the case and then I wanted one that was short basically short when it comes to the length of this way hundred and forty millimeters is about as short as you can get and the EVGA what is what's the stupid model on this one again the 500 Watts 500 B is the model on this one 80 plus bronze it's got a single 12 amp or 12 volt rail granted the cabling is not that pretty but hey this is a budget build so you got to make do with certain stuff it is not modular which is the other limitation but honestly when you're working in a small case sometimes non modular power supplies can be better only in certain situations because you don't use quite as much space for dem plugs that are going up in there but okay let's move right along that is my first build which again is the $450 console killer now if you guys are looking at this and being like it sucks because it doesn't have a graphics card well you're right to some extent it could it would be much better with a graphics card but I always like having the upgrade path with any system that I design and as previously mentioned you could easily drop a nice graphics card in here for 150 or 200 bucks really bump up your gaming performance but for the time being for around 450 bucks you can get this all put together on the hardware side and you can get yourself a computer you can use the game that's small it's not gonna use a whole lot of power - yeah I liked how that one turned out I was actually aiming for a more like a $500 price point and then it came out to me 450 and as like hey sweet that's that's super sweet anyway let's move on to the next build which is my entry-level x99 build now x99 is intel's enthusiast platform that's the highest of the high end and intel has been segmenting their there their consumer platforms like this for I don't know how many years now three four five six seven eight eight or nine years it's hard to say 2006 2007 I think was when they first brought out X 79 anyway X 99 is awesome because it's where you can get the fastest hardware that's available it's the only place to get ddr4 memory right now all that will be changing soon when skylake launches next month it's it's going to remain faster than the skylake we can we can be pretty confident of that right now which means that if you're going to build a system right now but you're worried oh maybe I should wait for skylake then this is a good way around it because you don't have to worry about sky like being fasters sky like might be faster on the cpu like per instructions per clock side but it's really not something I would be overly concerned about so let's say you want the X 99 you want the power you want the longevity because X 99 platform usually remains valid for a good three years you want the general badassery of being like I've got a you know a 5000 series X 99 processor LGA 2011 - three motherboard Dixon and chipset and haswell-e but it's expensive to get in on the ground floor even at the base level products is well expensive especially if you looked at when it launched last year because ddr4 prices were insanely expensive but ddr4 prices have come down so it's a lot more accessible now and as previously mentioned who cares if skylake is launching if you're on x99 with the haswell-e now you could with this go like full budget you could just be like I want the cheapest parts possible but I do feel like this platform kind of lends itself to a higher standard so I wasn't going for the cheapest of the cheap when it comes to the components here I was looking for stuff that was inexpensive but commensurate with the power and and prestige that comes with x99 and haswell-e so let's move on to this build here and let's start off by saying that the CPU in this case is pretty much a no-brainer there's only three CPUs available on this platform a 59 60 X is $1,000 the 59 30k is that I think 550 or 600 5820k which is what we're going to be using is much more reasonably priced although granted it is still three hundred and seventy dollars that's if you buy it here now if you live close to a Micro Center and I said this in the last video too you can get it for 300 bucks but you got to go into a store and pick that up and then you have to buy a bunch of other stuff from you don't really have to buy other stuff from Micro Center but that is a good way of saving some money on your processor but we're not going with my car Micro Center prices here we're going with full prices with a 5820k it's a 3.3 gigahertz it's six cores it gives you pretty much everything the 59 30k gives except I believe it has a little bit less cash and you get fewer PCI Express Lanes the PCI Express Lanes were concerned for me at launch but if you're not planning on doing like a three or four-way SLI configuration or like maxing out all of your storage then the lanes you get with the 5820k which oh gosh what is it 28 I think you get 28 you're still you're still pretty good alright moving on to the next piece we need a cooler of course I'm not going to go with the stock cooler like I did in the last build since this is a higher-end one and you can't you know do get it you don't get a cooler with the 5820k so you need something I went with an air cooler this is kind of me sticking with the whole like I think air coolers do a really good job and save you a good amount of cash over the larger size say 240 millimeter all in one liquid coolers and this is actually a throwback to the last may builds because I already used this in the may builds this is enter Max's cooler that's a super tiny picture of it maybe there's a better picture on NCIX let's see but it's black it does a really good job you can get it for 40 or 45 bucks and if that's your range your price range 30 to 45 bucks ish for a CPU cooler I think this one will do a good job for you alright that's not low so I'm just gonna leave it but yeah 40 bucks right now at ncx us and the other thing oh did I mention yet that I'm going to be building this system I'm gonna be building this system so there was a slight influence of that and the fact that I have this cooler definitely helped me out as well or influenced my decision for it alright next we have a weird one whoops wrong button next we have a weird one in this gigabyte motherboard this is actually a placeholder that I used I chose this excited on gaming which is a perfectly fine and legitimate motherboard for LG it's 102 2011 - 3 it's a little bit more expensive it's about well it's still reasonable 260 ish but the board I'm actually gonna be using for the build is this brand new one from gigabyte this is the x99 sli yeah it's $250 going back to my like mo for like choosing the parts for this and look I even have a I even have it my ammo for choosing the parts for this build was at least for the motherboard side was at launch all the motherboards were like 300 bucks they have some that came down to like 250 ish I was thinking 200 to 250 dollars so that's why the x99s sli I thought was a good choice from gigabyte it's from gigabyte so you know it's got all their ultra durable quality and stuff in there ton of features on the board and the one qualification that I really didn't want to shirk since I am going for a full size build with this with this but this build is 4 X 99 I like having 8bim slots and there are some less expensive boards in this that have four dimm slots but I just like having eight I like being able to expand that memory because if you're on this platform chances are you're doing a bit more than gaming and having more to work with will be a good option alright so there's the motherboard the x99s sli although again I did a workaround with it and it did a placeholder let's move on down the line we need memory of course look at this g.skill ripjaws 16 gig kit ddr4 21 33 this is a black kit because it matches with just about everything and this this kit costs 130 dollars one-thirty right now do you remember when ddr4 came out last year this kit was 300 bucks so that's the benefit of ramping up production I suppose because I I really like that you can get ddr4 so cheap and especially important since Galax coming out and people are going to be looking for it on not just the x99 platform alright so memory is taken care of and and oh by the way that's what I consider to be the bare minimum for this platform 4x4 gigs unless you're dealing with like fewer memory slots or or you're just really going super budget but like I don't know you you're getting a quad channel platform should use quad channel memory oh and hello to everyone who is joined in chat thank you thank you guys all for jumping in and joining me here hope you're enjoying ok let's move on to storage here I wanted a 500 gig SSD here's another place where you can save some money if you're going entry-level x99 is maybe a 256 gig SSD but again this is this is enthusiast platform so it's like the torrent or the 500 gig the 250 gig drives have dropped so much you saw the one in the first build for 80 bucks you can get a get a 500 gig 850 Evo which is a higher-end SSD for 165 ish and 70 that's for 5 500 gig SSD I have to say having a 500 guest gig SSD is awesome and just load all your games onto it it's fantastic an Evo series is one that I've worked with and I liked I did add some mass storage here just a WD caviar green 3 terabyte 5400 rpm internal drive a quick tip for you guys who don't follow the commodities market very much the d odd quantity drives or like capacity drives like your 3 terabyte drives for example or your 1.5 terabyte drives that were out for a little while didn't sell as well as the even drives like your 2 terabytes and your 4 terabytes for that reason only occasionally I've noticed you can find three terabyte drives for a considerable deal and that's not to say I did a whole lot of searching around for this one but a caviar green is a good Drive it's not super fast but it's not going to use a lot of power and just for mass storage it's a great job and it's less 100 bucks that less than a hundred bucks for 3 freaking terabytes so that's pretty good too yeah now I'm gonna come back to the graphics card graphics cards most controversial decision for this and and I want to come back to it let's talk case though we have a fan text enthu Pro and again if you guys aren't familiar you guys are probably familiar with them through pro this is one of the cases that came out within the last year that just kind of blew everyone away as far as its capabilities and everything and I have not even worked with it I have done next to zero with it other than watching dimitra's dimitris fantastic video and can't be like wow that looks like a really nice case but fortunately I am now I'm now actually I have one of these being shipped here I'm gonna do this build in this case so I'm gonna get stri at the end through pro and if you guys are watching this video in the future check out the end through em from fantex it's not available right now I was gonna see if I could get it for this build because it's gonna be a it's like the enthu Pro kind of with a few parts stripped out but you still get the same general chassis a lot of the same features and it's cheaper I think it's 70 or 80 bucks depending on what color you get but that would be a great way of getting a case that again is going to fit with this type of build and my price range for case and this one was about 80 to 100 bucks that's kind of what I felt where you can get a nice case that would get the job done but not look like you're cutting corners too much and buying like the cheapest $40 like $40.00 ATX case that you can find rounding out the parts here for the power supply I have this one this is a thermal take 750 watt 80 plus gold semi modular ATX power supply now this one again I chose for a few different reasons I was looking for less than hundred dollars to the power supply I wanted at least 700 watts I wanted 80 plus gold because I wanted to hire a better efficiency and higher build quality and those were kind of my main qualifying factors this fell in here and it worked out perfectly because it's got actually some pretty good cabling which is another thing that I'm looking at was power supplies more so these days if you guys have been watching my channel recently you might know why it's got nice black cabling so it's going to look good to 80 plus gold rated it's got good reviews overall good internal quality and I have not this power supply but I have a very very similar power supply to this over here the tough power DPS G which is more expensive than this but it meant that I already had the power supply used for the build so that was my other reasoning behind this one okay finally finally finally the video card now here's what it comes down to for the video card for this system like there's so many options and I was really really torn and originally I was going to say get a 980ti or a fury X cuz both of them are about 650 bucks you know there's things you could say about either of them and you know I think that would get the job done but that would bring the price point up a fair amount so that's why I didn't choose them at least specifically for this right now the other options that are out there other than the 390 X which I've chosen here let me actually show you guys the video card that I chose rather than just sitting here talking about it this is the MSI Radeon r9 390x 8 gig video card and you can see a picture of it right there looks very similar to a lot of the gaming graphics cards lately but that's the twin frozer 5 cooler I believe and it does a really good job so the reason I chose this was it's it's newer which you know which is nice when it's newer granted is still 290x on crack but I'm reason number 2 I have it so I can do the build with it I also found that for the price point for this which is a little over 400 bucks right now about 420 or four hundred and thirty dollars you get a lot of performance you get eight gigs of VRAM and you get the best GPU that AMD is making right now outside of the fury without spending as much money on the fury and the reviews for the 390x even compared to even knowing that it's it's it's a 290x kind of cracked out with a gigs a ram have been very positive so for that reason that's why I'm with this so you guys can feel free to argue in the comments if you agree with that decision or you don't agree with that decision but at least for the sake of posterity other options out there would have been a 970 a GTX 970 on the Nvidia side of course or even a 399 X version if you're going for more budge it you could go you can go with the GTX 980 for more money although the 390 X and the 980 have the in the l-39 TX can beat out the 980 at times especially if you're looking for higher resolutions so if you're going for 4k maybe something to consider and then of course the 980 TI or the fury X on the top end which again it's it's just more money it's another another 200 plus dollars that you're adding on top so there you have it but those are my builds and I hope you guys have learned a little bit about well the builds and maybe giving you guys some ideas for builds of your own or maybe you just take my builds and build them that'd be cool I'm gonna do that with at least the entry-level x99 build in just a while and I will say it's nice that you can get a fully fleshed out like like pretty pretty good high-end system with the 5820k in it for $1,700 so as this actually comes in less than $1,700 that's a lot less than you would have needed to spend say six seven months ago so I thought that was a win overall but guys don't forget to vote on the straw poll and let me know what builds what builds you want me to work on for next month don't forget to leave me comments in the comment section and argue over whether I made the right choice with using the 390 X in my entry-level x99 bill sorry for some of the background noise 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