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4K for $4K Gaming Setup, Mini ITX Overkill - September Builds

2015-09-11
hey everyone and welcome back to Pauls hardware I am doing my monthly builds video as I have been doing every month or almost every month for the past few months so basically how this works is at the beginning of each month or near the beginning of each month I do a couple builds I assemble these builds using PC part picker and I get all the parts picked out for you guys and then I share them with you and I kind of talk about my thought process as I went through - to make the builds as well as hopefully getting the build scam has kind of specified and narrowed down to a really specific type of build that you guys choose because there's some fan interaction going on here as well now sometimes I actually also build the builds that I talk about later on and I did do that recently with for example the entry-level x99 build which you can kind of see me assembling here this is over on my channel of course my youtube channel is pulsar berry you're probably watching this on my You Tube channel but I'm also doing this live so the entry-level x99 build actually assembled the blue build with the BitFenix Aegis I also did a couple like a month or two back so these are all lots of fun and I like to assemble them as well because that way it's not just like hey here's a bunch of lists of parts I'm not gonna be building the builds for this month just give to you guys that information right off the bat up front the upcoming build that I am gonna be doing which I haven't done yet is my August builds that's the 2,000 dollar gaming beast and that is coming very soon so subscribe to my channel and like this video if you liked watching builds and that's probably be up in the next week or so so today by popular demand I'm doing a couple pretty high end builds so if you're looking for budgets sorry look at some of my older ones or I'm gonna be doing weren't doing more budget stuff next month so for this month based on your guys's response and reaction last month results so here's here's the results for the September for the builds you guys voted on last month which is what you wanted to see me do for September we have to at the top the mini ITX overkill system so mini ITX overkill we're gonna try to pack as much as I can as possible into a mini ITX build and also have the 4k gaming system for $4,000 this includes an entire setup so it's not just the base system which I usually do and that one was actually lot of fun actually both of these were a lot of fun I put these together mostly yesterday it took me longer than I thought because there were some there were some issues I had to kinda workaround with both of these but let's just let's just get right into it and start off with the Mini ITX overkill system and of course I'm using a PC part picker to assemble these builds that's a great website because it compares prices across lots of different areas and you can sort of get an initial look here at what I put in it but the total cost of this build which I wasn't I didn't have a price point here but it ended up being about two thousand six hundred and thirty dollars altogether with everything that I picked now it being a mini ITX system meant that I needed to start with a mini ITX board and if you ask me mini ITX and overkill and you put those words together I get this this is the Azeroth hex 99e ITX / AC motherboard and it's to me is just the definition of I overkill in Mini ITX because it's it's x99 socket LGA 2011 - v3 in a mini ITX board it's really the only mini ITX board that is sockets LGA 2011 and they even used a narrower actual socket on the CPU itself here so it's not exactly a standard type that's why this board actually ships with the CPU cooler but I didn't want to use the CPU cooler that comes with it I wanted something better more than more on that in just a moment so starting with the motherboard knowing I wanted to go haswell-e with this because that's like overkill next up I wanted to choose the case and here's where I'll probably get lots of feedback from you guys which is like what case I should have chosen now the thing for me with Mini ITX is I want Mini ITX to actually be small and you find mini ITX cases out there that are actually fairly large and so the the graphite series 380 T from Corsair I like because it's actually pretty small it's got a handle on the top so like small portable we can pick it up and carry it around there's like the jury's out on the actual design of this thing and how much people like it and stuff like that I think it looks pretty cool but and you know there's definitely people who are not as into what it looks like so that being said it's also got tons of ventilation on the top and sides which I thought was important because I'm squeezing a lot of hardware into here and that's pretty much where I started off with was with the motherboard and the case so to go along with the motherboard I chose 5820k cpu intel core i7 didn't want to go with the Xeon with this because I already did it he's wedged look what the 18 core Xeon or something into this so I'm gonna not quite as crazy overkill as that cuz then you gotta go Xeon and that kind of thing so I thought it 58 20 kid work this made sense to me for a mini ITX x99 build because you don't have a bunch of PCI Express slots and you only have what 28 lanes on the 5820k so even if you went from a 5820k f to a 59 30k it's been an extra couple you know 150 $200 you're not gonna be able to use the extra lanes you get because you don't have slots to slot them into so I think 28 lanes is cool and then the next option beyond that is going all the way up to 59 and 60 X which you do get an eight-core for that much money but it's 650 bucks more so if you really want to go all overkill do that or use the 18 core Xeon that Linus used now what I actually ran into a dilemma with this build with was um choosing the CPU cooler and I did some research on several forums online this is a hard forum thread specifically about this motherboard and what CPU coolers you can use with it because it's got that weird mounting system that's actually meant for servers like this so I'll post this link in the video description once I put it up this is a screen cap they posted I'm here from Linus's build which is that the motherboard actually comes with a bracket a special mounting bracket that you can use in order to put on specifically the cooler master side on I believe cooler that can fit in there but several people have used it and sort of jury-rigged it to line up with some other different types of coolers so that's gonna be my suggestion the one I actually put in the build itself is what did I actually go with the cooler master Neptune 240 M which also isn't one that it's like you'll notice there's potential issues are incompatibilities at the top of this build and that's specifically because of the the cooler the motherboard and the chassis but going back over here to the actual one right side shows a depth into 40 M because I found at least one dude who was like yeah they'll work with this you just have to kind of bend the bracket a little bit there you go the other options that are out there might be the hydro Series the H 100 i from Corsair is probably like the one you want to go with something in my eye the H 100 eye is what you want to go with but it's discontinued and if you this price on nua gets 150 bucks right now which is insanely overpriced so since they discontinued it like they're all overpriced now so give it to 40 m-maybe instead you can also get the H 100 GTX and that one I am told at least according to several the threads I read that you can actually go to a spec and a stack has a bracket you can get that worked with the newer cooler design from the GTX version and then you should hopefully be okay but honestly finding a CPU cooler that was big because I wanted a 240 that was not too wide for the cases because the 3d T has a very limited amount of space available there for the the radiator and the fans and also that had the mounts that would fit on this bracket was a bit of a challenge I did actually pretty decent amount of like looking up online of everything so either go the height either go with the H 100 I if you can find it for cheap GTX if you're willing to contact ace tech to get the ilm retention kit which costs about $10 and that will work with the newer kind of rounder pumps that the GTX version has and then you should be able to move on from there with that hopefully minor issue out of the way we can move on to memory got a Corsair Vengeance lpx 32 gig kit thankfully you can actually get ddr4 dual channel kits now thanks to skylake launching so this is 32 gigs 2 by 16 so even though you've only got two DIMM slots you can still run a dual channel and have plenty of memory in there going with the overkill theme I thought 32 gigs of memory would would be suitable we also have a storage right and I went kind of kind of crazy with my storage I spent 750 bucks on just a storage in this for 1.5 terabytes of SSD storage so yes starting with the HyperX predator from kingston i chose this one because it's very fast it's MDOT - its PCI Express not SATA or a HDI connection so it's gonna be really fast if you want a cheaper option for this go for the samsung XP 941 you can get the 512 gig of that which is a little bit more storage than this it is a little bit slower than the predator but it's about 100 to 120 dollars cheaper it's also got a green PCB and not the black PCB like the predator has so you know bear that in mind as well this case does or the system does also have a color theme it's black black white and blue kind of goes along with the case and hello it's anyone who is joined up in chat thanks to all of you guys for hopping in here to round out the storage I got a one terabyte SSD because I wanted a one terabyte SSD and I'm tired of loading up games off of mechanical drives so you get the predator for like your operating system and some games you got a one terabyte crucial bx 100 actually available on mac mall crazily enough over here and that will give you some massive storage and that will load up all your games really fast and that hey that says overkill mini ITX to me video card i thought was going to be an interesting choice for this system and as the r9 nano just the fury nano from AMD just came out I bet a lot of you expecting me to throw that in here I said no I said no to the Nano for this build because this is an overkill build and the Nano honestly I see what they did with it but they they they brought down its actual performance to me and the thing I was looking at when I was considering the Nano and looking at this system and looking at the ITX cases that are out there was like most of the ITX cases actually can't support pretty long graphics cards like the length this way which is kind of where you get the shortness of the nano with the graphics card is is not always a limiting factor and in fact the 3d tee from Corsair can handle up to 290 mm meter long graphics cards so it can handle pretty long graphics cards so I went with the island with the 980ti over the nano on this one I didn't want to do a fury X but if you're into the fury X wait till my next build the 980ti is going to be faster than a nano it's just it's just gonna and since I didn't need the space I was like are at 980 I this one from gigabyte I thought would fit in really well because it's got their really nice wind force cooler triple fans it is black and it even has a blue LED on it so it's gonna match in with the rest of the color scheme of the case and it's gonna be flat out faster than a nano or a fury X generally speaking for that matter as well and of course it fits within the 290 millimeter length since this one is I believe 280 millimeters long okay the power supplies last apart from this build and for this one I just went with the BitFenix fury 650 watt I'm sorry there's not better pictures of this I've actually used this I used this same one in the blue build that I did it's black white and blue and it's got nicely sleeved cabling and for you can get a cheaper 650 watt 80 plus gold power supply this by 10 20 bucks maybe but you can actually get this for not too expensive right now 86 87 dollars at super bees and it's got really really nice loop cable so that's kind of why I went with that one it's got the full package alright and that is my overkill mini ITX gaming build it's pretty overkill yeah looking you can fit a lot of stuff in that little case and I think it's fun if any of you actually build that let me know because I've actually I kind of wanted to build both of these systems but I got to cut myself off sometime alright moving right along to the 4k gaming setup for $4,000 4k for 4k can you do it and since you can that's already been kind of established for less than $4,000 I made this an actual not just a build as far as the case goes but an actual entire gaming setup for $4,000 so that means not just the core system it also means a monitor and it also means peripherals keyboard mouse and I did a headset I could have done speakers too but I didn't here's the full builds as you can see the price down here at the bottom comes in it well just over $4,000 but you got to pay for shipping four thousand twelve dollars was what this rounded out too and this is an absolutely beastly system this one is also based on that x99 socket 2011 because that's kind of the top end and both of these were pretty pretty high-end expensive systems but for this one since it was 4k for 4k I actually started out in a different place than I normally would and that was that I needed a 4k monitor and honestly if I was gonna buy a 4k monitor right now this is probably the one I would buy this is the wasabi mango if you guys are interested in a little bit more in-depth info on this one check out PC perspective as well as Tek syndicate hardware channels both have overviews on this monitor Wendell did a great job looking at his I went for the $700 version which is not perfect pixel jeon perfect pixel it's about 800 bucks at least if you buy it here on eBay these are also available on Amazon and they have just a pretty insane set of features for what you want right now you get 4k of course you need that resolution if you're running it at 1080 though you can actually overclock the it as well so you can run it at 120 Hertz so if you're into the high frame rate thing you can also get a hundred and twenty Hertz support it has free sinks porch that tied into my choice of graphics cards which I'll share with you in just a moment it's also got hdmi 2.0 even though my graphics cards don't it's okay though because it also has DisplayPort but hdmi 2.0 I think is pretty important if you're actually investing in a 4k monitor right now 4 for 4 chroma setup you can do you can do 10 bit color the one negative about the wasabi mango is the response time isn't quite as good as some of the faster TN panels that are out there so if you really really into fast response time then you might want to look elsewhere but everything else about this monitor and 42 inches at that did I mention it's a 42 inch yeah you put this on your desk and you'll be in just gaming lists for the rest of your life alright so that's 700 bucks off of the top $4,000 price of this build so everything else had to fit within the envelope below that and that gives us 20 no 3,300 dollars to work with and we should be able to get a nice 4k system going for that so let's go back to the oops let's go back to the whole list here we consider the sabe mango here I actually had to punch that in because it's not on PC park picker as of now but maybe it will be soon let's go with sort of the other parts of this so beyond the monitor I thought the graphics cards were gonna be the most important thing to consider next up so I went with dual fury X's that's right dual fury X's why why did I do this well my AMD fans out there like yeah dual fury X it's badass and I would agree with them especially when tested at 4k the for your e^x is does an exceedingly good job even though it's only got 4 gigs of memory it's that super fancy new HBM memory and I think this is a great option if you're going for a 4k setup right now and you're spending a bit more money yeah the other nice things about this that's got it it's got the built-in water cooling so everything's gonna be water-cooled on this system out of the box these actually these cards actually do better at 4k I already kind of mentioned that and the monitor I just showed you has free sync support free sync which means you can use the free sync with the fury X's now there are of course gonna be some potential hiccups when it comes to free sync crossfire support and 4k resolution we anticipate that as long as you have the hardware that's compatible these hiccups will be worked out via driver support and updates in the future so yeah just barring that all in mind a 4k monitor with the with the with the 2-way fury X setup I think you're going pretty happy with even if you can't always make it take advantage of crossfire configuration and Hecht just turn free sync off if that's your thing if you don't want three exes or if you will have a g-sync monitor or something like that then feel free to get two-way 980 T is Titan X's we're also high in the running in my choice for this one but that would have been 2 grams right out of the gate and I mean you do get 12 gigs of memory for that so that's hard it's hard trace but for this one with the fury axes okay the CPU of course I stuck with haswell-e because in my opinion if you're building in a system that's this expensive you should go with haswell-e so I need a nice motherboard for that the motherboard I chose was this somewhat new one from MSI this is the x99 Raider it's got eight DIMM slots it's got a pretty much all black design which is pretty cool now it's got plenty of room there with triple slot spacing for my two-way configuration you got em got to support and all that kind of stuff this also isn't terribly expensive comes in at about 220 dollars as of the pricing on new egg right now did I mention my CPU I don't think I did I think I totally blanked on the CPU CPU is right here that's a 59 30 K again here trying to stay within that $4,000 envelope if you're really going for top and top men go with the 59 60 X but I thought a 49 30 K was more appropriate here because you do have more PCIe lanes and since you're running a dual channel or a two way crossfire setup then you're gonna want your gonna want all the bandwidth you can get just to be on the safe side okay moving along to memory I went with the 32 gig kit $4,000 ish budget about 32 gigs is appropriate you could shave 180 to $100 off the price of this build by going with a 16 gig kit but this is a HyperX fury they're all nice black memories black PCBs they look pretty nice too pretty low profile this is only a 2133 kit but that'll do fine for you that's not gonna affect your gaming since you're not running an eye GPU off of it or anything like that and that'll get you set up with the quad channel know what the same cooler on this build cooler master Neptune 240m it's kind of like because I have some other cooler master parts in this and actually chose this cooler before I went back to the the Mini ITX build and I decided maybe I should relook at that cooler to make sure the compatibility wasn't gonna be a problem I've used this cooler it's got a nice quiet pump does a great job a little over a hundred bucks the case I went with this a mastercase pro 5 this is for coolermaster I did a video on this recently so I had actually worked with it which means I I liked it it really really solid build quality this seems to me like a case that'll last you quite some time the pro 5 version has your radiator bracket up at the top which is important since we're using a radiator this also comes with a side window so you can get a nice look at everything inside and it also has more Drive cages not that we'll need all of those but we've only at least space for the power supply I went with this EVGA power supply this is I don't even know what the mom they don't they're not good with their models it's the 1000 G power supplied from EVGA look at those cables they're all black this is my requirements for this I wanted a thousand watts I wanted all black cabling I wanted 80 plus gold or 80 plus platinum and this one kind of mat matches all that for about 140 bucks after a meal and rebate coolermaster also has a power supply that's a thousand watts and I forget the oh gosh I forget the model of it now I was gonna look at that one but it was it was like twenty or thirty bucks more and I really I was trying to standard that $4,000 price limit okay next up we have storage and for storage here I didn't go too crazy I went with the one terabyte SSD because I like one terabyte SSDs this is a little bit you can you can get by with less than this for sure but 320 bucks for one terabyte SSD in a SanDisk Ultra - which is a very good SSD SanDisk does a good job with their controllers their NAND as well as overall construction it says good read and write speeds a freaking terabyte SSD that's that's all you need and then I also wanted to add some mass storage so this is that hitachi drive that we've talked about a few times this is one of Backblaze tested and this was one of their consumer drives that they found to have the most longevity and lifespan so we've had several people asked me about it since we did that video and say hey we're and we can refine that it's been available for like 50 ish dollars before but I think the price has gone up a little bit ever since that Backblaze report but still 65 bucks 2 terabytes mass storage should be nice and reliable for you and it gives you something to back up that's a 1 terabyte SSD with now we have peripherals as well because this is a whole build so I'm sticking with the coolermaster theme I got the quick-fire TK I figured that a a mechanical keyboard would be suitable for this since again it is a four thousand dollar budget looking for a higher end a mechanical keyboard I think is one of those luxury items that goes along with it then this is a full-size mechanical keyboard for 84 bucks from Coolermaster these have really got good good build quality Cherry MX red switches and it's black and red and I haven't mentioned this yet but this whole system if you put it together will pretty much all be black and red see I got the color scheme taken care of to put some thought into these alright for the mouse such as the Mannix naos now is night nail I never know how to pronounce this this is a 7000 I just chose this mouse because it's one of my personal favorites as far as a ergonomics and comfort go you can feel free to choose your own mouse if you don't like this one but I really like I did this is just what I've used and I enjoy 70 bucks a nice high-quality Mouse for not like a hundred or 100 or more than 100 I was going to say the rocket myth might be another option but I'm it's like 120 right now so uh okay also what with the optical version for that since people were hating on the laser version that I used last time lastly we have a headset and if I was gonna say buy a headset right now this is one I would say to buy HyperX cloud gaming headset it's just actually good even though it's a gaming headset and it's got you set up with a nice mic good sound altogether and that is the entire build right I think I went over everything there did I forget anything let's double check let's double check one more time looks look at the full list 59 30 kept in 240m x9m raider HyperX fury black 32 gig kit SanDisk Ultra 960 gig plus the Hitachi Deathstar 2 terabyte 2-way crossfire fury X's Coolermaster mastercase pro 5 EVGA thousand watt power supply that wasabi mango 42 inch 4k monitor Coolermaster CM storm quickfire TK gaming keyboard my onyx Nass 7000 wired optical mouse and the kingston hyperx prep cloud Pro headset all for 4 grand so everyone hit up your parental units or take out a loan or do whatever the heck you need to get gift pork ran together to put together this system I I like getting this all together it's like this like not only did it feel right after getting that all in there but I was also I even got to the point even with the four thousand dollar budget where I was like nickel and dime and twenty eight thirty forty dollar price differences just to get everything kind of within that envelope so I'm happy with how it turned out but guys that is all for this video and and what else do I say at the end you should stay tuned because as previously mentioned I do have an August build that I have yet to be put together which I'm gonna do within the next week so subscribe to my channel for that and maybe hit the like button if you enjoyed it and you want to see more builds next month's builds though are also coming up very soon and you should also vote for those now since I went with higher-end builds for this month for next month October builds I went budget side so really I'm focusing mainly on the price point here but I have a thousand dollar video editing system seven hundred dollar gaming system $450 console replacement or her $300 web and email mom and pop system next month I'm gonna do my best to get this parts together to actually build one of those as well so stay tuned for that also don't forget to check out my store which is stored at pulsar bar debt net where you can buy shirts like this one I also have mugs and glasses if you're interested in drinking liquid items out of those don't forget to like this video subscribe to my channel thank you so much for watching everyone and we will see you next
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