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$600 Gaming PC Build - Which GPU To Use?

2019-04-28
what's up guys welcome back today's video bares a little bit of explanation right here at the top because I'm doing a couple things at the same time first off you guys may have seen me build this system which is the about one thousand one hundred and fifty dollar build in the cooler master master box q 500l which I did just a week or two ago this was my monthly build for April but I've decided to sort of reconfigure it because we now have a new graphics card that has just launched the nvidia geforce gtx 1650 which is a 150 dollar graphics card but nvidia didn't actually post drivers for the press to use so on launch day for this card there are no actual benchmarks that you guys can look at to say is that a good card or is it a bad card by the time you watch this video there will be some more benchmarks out on this but all this is to say i have decided to do a couple things for today's video one is i'm going to be reconfiguring this system in the master box acute 300l which is a $40 version of the case versus the q 500 l also it's micro ATX which was the original intent for this system also I'm going to be answering the question in a follow-up video where I do testing of which graphics card you should pair with a $600 build like this because the new system is gonna retail for about $600 for all the parts inside the 1650 is $150 but we also have the radiant rx 570 which has been out for a while but you can now also get for about 150 dollars which one is faster which one should you drop into a system if your budget is around $600 today we're gonna put the system together or sort of rebuild the system and then like I said I'll follow up and do some testing so let me do sort of an awkward rundown of parts here first off graphics card of course is going to be this ZOTAC GeForce GTX 16 50 this is the gaming version and I believe this does not require supplemental power that's one of the selling points of the 1650 is it's a pretty low power requirement it can run off of the 75 Watts provided by the PCI Express bus I might be swapping this rx 570 this is just the only one I have on hand here it's a 4 gig version there are 8 gig versions of the rx 570 so if I can find one for 150 bucks I'll drop that in instead the rest of the parts are already installed in the Q 500 L I'm gonna be disassembling that to drop it into the Q 300 L so that's a savings of $20 versus the Q 500 and of course it will actually be micro ATX that'll work with our B 450 and steel legend motherboard from asrock the graphics card we used originally as an RT X 2070 that's $500 and it's a $600 build so obviously we can't use that anymore the processor is arisin seven 2700 which is going to cost over $200 it's a good eight core 16 thread CPU and it does use the more refined manufacturing process 12 nanometer that the second gen rise and stuff uses however we're gonna be taking advantage of the low low prices currently available for first gen rising stuff every rise in seven 1,700 here which we're going to be using for today but in the parts list I have the rise in seven 1600 which is 6 cores 12 threads and you can get for about 115 dollars right now which is an insanely good deal you can get really good deals on the 1700 as well so if you need the extra cores and threads consider dropping that in for a few more dollars but that is where some more of our price savings is going to come in and by and large the rest of the stuff we're gonna use is the same so we've got the same Coolermaster MWe gold 650 watt power supply which you can get for about 55 dollars after mail-in rebate we've got the same memory kits you want 16 gigs or 2 by 8 gigs of 3,200 speed rising compatible memory and our Flex kit is doing the job there I'm gonna leave the Intel 6 series SSD in there which is about $65 if you go for the 512 gig of it right now you can save another 15 dollars by going with a standard SATA SSD and that will not affect your gaming performance and then of course at the back the queues 300l just the $20 cheaper version of the Q 500 l here and part of my reason going for this decision too is that this was originally in 1150 dollar system after I built this I checked out the gamers nexus review on the Q 500 l which I will link down in the description if you guys want to check it out the airflow on this case is not the best so as a result it's going to be better suited for a lower power system like a $600 issue rig like I'm setting up today rather than trying to wedge more power into it with like an 8 core 16 thread processor and an RT X 27 T so I'm thinking the $600 configuration will work better and now I'm going to put it all together the initial build has been disassembled so now we have the real parts list for today which I've already kind of gone over everything so I'm not going to go over it again but since the motherboard is already pretty much assembled and pretty much gonna be removing the existing RGB heat sink fan I think I'm gonna keep using this because you can't get a race fire that will have effectively the same performance with at least a 1,700 like I'm using I went to all that trouble of rotating this so I kind of want to leave it and it looks nice when it's lit up - that's a Doh time to get back to work on the rebuild so other than swapping in the different CPU at this point it's been pretty much a transplant out of the queue 500l and into the queue 300l the cases are really really similar in most respects a couple things to point out the input outputs at the back here on the queue 300l are these temporary ones that snap off I'd recommend snapping those off before you install the motherboard just a minor thing but also this case only ships with one fan just like the q500 so gonna be adding another 140 millimeter fan at the front the front intake on this case is kind of blocked off by these perforations here this is what gamers Nexus discovered it's not a whole lot of room for airflow here but we at least want to have something active up against there pulling in some fresh air and who knows maybe people who get this case in the future can figure out some decent mods there to open up the airflow a little bit I don't think that'd be too hard to do at this point though just have a couple steps left to do gonna install the fan at the French and then install the graphics card and get everything wired up and plugged in front intake fan is installed this is a hundred and forty millimeter fan and this is kind of making me lean a little bit more towards maybe doing a follow-up mod on this case when I test it to just cut out a big hole right here and allow plenty of room for airflow I'll think about it let me know in the comments if you guys think I should do that this build being sort of a rebuild has come together pretty quickly and I'm now just ready to install the graphics card which again is the zotac gaming version of the GT x16 50 and 60 and 50 I think is gonna have a decent amount of discussion on it in the next few days and probably weeks because for a lot of people who are gonna go with a discrete graphics card about a hundred and fifty dollars is kind of the entry-level price I think for people who are doing a more healthy budget maybe 700 to 900 dollars total for the whole system you're definitely gonna want to look at something a higher end for a graphics card sixteen sixty and sixteen sixty TI have proven to be very good values for the money that you pay for them can't 100% say that for this card quite yet also there's gonna be a few variants of this card this one for example is a more entry-level version so it's got a plastic shroud single fan on top it's only about a hundred and sixty one millimeters long measured from the bracket when it comes to the PCB the plastic shroud extends a little bit beyond that so maybe 165 but this should fit in really really small form-factor systems also a benefit for a small form-factor and lower power systems is going to be the fact that there's no supplemental power requirement for this it gets all the power via the 75 Watts deliver B the via the PCI Express bus which is this shorty part of it right there by the way that's where the power comes from there will also be higher-end versions of this card to those some that do have supplemental power and those will probably be able to run at higher clock speeds I'll be testing this so I'll report on the clock speeds but some of the things that we have question marks about when it comes to the 1650 are going to be the coup de coeur count you get 896 CUDA cores with the 16 50 and that is about thirty percent less than the sixteen sixty which where you have one thousand four hundred and eight also the quorum boosts clocks are 1485 and 1665 respectively and that is again about a hundred megahertz slower than with the 1660s so you might be able to get a 1650 that performs a little bit better and overclocks a little bit better if you get one that has that supplemental power for us though it at least simplify is the installation because all I have to do is drop it into the slot here and there's no extra power required so I got the graphics card installed the back of this case is one of these external mounting plates so you actually want to screw through the mounting plate in order to get everything in there but once it's all in there it's actually pretty secure there and now that everything is installed here this case is feeling pretty solid as well even though it's a $40.00 case and as I've mentioned before you know the steel is not exactly super thick in certain areas when it's all together because it's compact and because they've got enrolled portions around the edges here it actually stays together really well and very flexible as I already mentioned you know you can take this i/o panel and move it to the top or the bottom or the side if you want to rotate the side panel window along with it I feel much better about this build as a $600 builds than the one I did in the Q 500 l which is a 11 $1,150 builds maybe I'll come back to that one and do an updated version of that with a different case that I feel is a little bit more suitable this one though I'm happy with and I've even got you know a decent job going on the cable management here on the other side as well I haven't tucked everything back in there once the side panel goes on it will do that and I've added this supplemental PCI Express power connector so that if I test the 60 and 50 versus an rx 570 we can gets comparison and the RX 5 somebody does require extra power that's one of the trade-offs there it's going to use more power it's not going to be as efficient as the 1650 but I will talk about that in a follow-up video all right everything's put together let's hit the power button damn might be hitting something I'll fix that actually conflicting with the front of the case so happy news the fan up at the front was just over Titan so it can press the rubber standoffs and actually had it conflicting with the front of the case but I loosened that up and now it's just fine spinning providing some airflow to the rest of the components in the system so guys that's pretty much gonna wrap it up for this build I am much happier I think with this configuration and what the configuration I recently did and the 500 series version of this case and it's mainly because I feel like this is more practical again you could put together roughly this same system for about $600 and I've put a parts list for that down in the video description if you guys want to check it out I was comparing this to the $500 builds that I was doing maybe a year ago or two years ago those had to rely on integrated graphics or they had to rely on older Intel processors that were like dual core for thread now we've managed to fit a six core 12 thread processor in here we've got $150 graphics card that is hopefully faster than the hundred and fifty dollar graphics cards of two years ago and we have a ton of expansion room because of course with this socket you can upgrade to an 8 core 16 thread AMD Rison 7 processor they also have a ton of room for a larger or more powerful graphics card in here which would also be supported by this power supply which is a 650 watt power supply you can get away with a 550 watt but in this bill by the way you got support for m2 nvme drives you've got expandability for adding some additional drives to the system too so I think this is a system that gets my seal of approval at least but I shouldn't do that before I've actually tested it fully so stay tuned for a follow up video well test the system with the 1650 in it compare the RX 570 hit the thumbs up button if you enjoyed this video and subscribe if you want to see that video when it comes out as well as all the other videos on my youtube channel thanks again for watching guys we'll see you next time
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