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$800 GTX 1660 Ti Gaming PCs - AMD or INTEL! - March 2019 Builds

2019-03-08
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don't know the exact parts that you should buy in order to put a system together well that's what this video is all about also if you missed it last month or just in the past few weeks I did a refreshed how to build a PC video series for beginners it's a three part series so feel free to check that out as well if you're looking to get started in building a computer especially if you're building a gaming PC these builds are based on your feedback from last month so also check the description for a strawpoll link these were your responses for March so we're gonna do balanced builds around this gtx 1660 TI today i'll side a bunch of other options on there so for next month if you want to vote on april check the video description for this straw poll and i took a bunch of these sort of mid-range responses the responses that weren't at the top but not at the bottom and refresh them for this month and i added one or two more so feel free to vote on those let's get started though with this month's first build which is about an eight hundred and ten dollar gaming pc and once again these first two builds are all based around the 1660 tee I just recently launched from Nvidia which costs about two hundred and eighty dollars if you get the entry-level one which is a very good price relative to the prices that Nvidia has been launching over the past six months for their new stuff so you can finally get our Turing GPU for 280 bucks it's a good price to performance for this card so I've decided to integrate this into an AMD build and an Intel build the AMD build is actually very very similar to the build I did last month just with the few parts so up here and there so I'm gonna go through it pretty quickly I'm still basing this on the rise in 526 hundred because I just think it's still the best bang for your buck six cores and twelve threads unlocked for overclocking one hundred and sixty-five dollars I've paired that up with the hyper 2/12 Black Edition because it's on a crazy deal for twenty two dollars on new egg several of the parts in this build our reliance on mail and rebates so bear that in mind no egg has several going on right now for a total savings of about fifty five dollars but other than that we've got the ever-popular MSI B 450 tomahawk motherboard a 16 gig memory kit for $80 oh that's fabulous a 53 dollar 480 gig SSD the 16 60 TI of course and then a case and power supply coming in for about $100 for the pair so here's the Rison v 2600 and as an all-around cpu I think you can't get better than this right now it's a hundred and sixty-five dollars on Newegg you get Tom Clancy's the division 2 game as well which you know that that's not bad it does come with a relatively small cooler though this is the Wraith stealth rather than the race spire so for that reason I've paired it up with this cooler the hyper 212 Black Edition which combines the price to performance of the hyper 212 with some good aesthetic features because it's all black at a $10 million rebate card at Newegg you can get it for $22 and it's just gonna be a great cooler for you and it's gonna perform much better than that Wraith stealth which will allow you to overclock if you want or just allow the processor itself to run at a higher frequency because the 2600 has what's called xf r or extender frequency range from AMD so it'll automatically overclock itself a little bit if you give it the thermal Headroom the motherboard again is the B 450 Tom Hawk I've used this with a few different builds now for about $100 or a little over $100 we're just looking for basic functionality so we want 4 memory slots so we have memory expansion capabilities we want at least one MDOT 2 slot which it also has and then this board also has pretty good power delivery for a little over $100 motherboard so it's going to be able to support some overclocks if you want to go that route or support the higher-end CPUs on this platform like the 8 core and 16 thread options that are available if I have a complaint about the msi arsenal tomahawk it's that the price has gone up it used to be about a hundred five dollars now it's more like a hundred and ten two hundred and twenty depending where you look I think it's due to the popularity that the price has crept up a little bit but still a good board next up is memory and I'm just using the pc part picker filter here to show you guys how i have been searching for memory basically especially for risin I'm looking at 3000 3200 you know I'll include speeds up to maybe 3600 just to see if there's any good deals on faster speeds and then we just want a 16 gig kit 2 by 8 gigs and then we just want to sort by price you can also start by price per gigabyte but it should be about the same and here we can see direct evidence of memory prices coming down in q1 which is absolutely awesome so $80 for this g.skill aegis kit that does work with Rhys and processors it's just a screaming deal you could spend a few more dollars here and look for a kit that's maybe 3200 speed or something like that but you're gonna have to spend $20 plus more to jump up to that level so that's why I stuck with this ddr4 3000 speed kit again it's low profile it's Aegis it doesn't have much in the way of heat sinks but it will get the job done and again it works with Rison for storage we have a 500 gig class SSD that means 480 to 512 gigs as far as the capacity goes and you should be able to find that for around $50 this is an 82 su 6 55 for 53 bucks we're gonna go with that and move on for our graphics card we actually have a bunch of options down here for the 1660 Ti this is another example of why I think this card is pretty viable for people you can actually buy it for the stated price that Nvidia said they would sell it for even 5 bucks less we've got this EVGA XC black version actually went with these otech 16 68 TI gaming video cards simply because it's got a little bit larger cooler it's got a dual fan cooling solution on there honestly most of these 16 60 TI's are going to perform within a percentage point or two of each other so don't worry too much about that just keep an eye out for deals because these have been going on sale for 5 bucks 10 bucks or 20 bucks off for a case we have the corsair carbide spec oh six ATX and this one usually goes for 75 or 80 bucks but Newegg again how they deal right now $20 rebate card so you can get it for $55 the original spec oh five version of this case that wasn't a huge fan of aesthetically but this case has received a lot of positive feedback just for being a good functional case it has 220 millimeter fans included so you got your airflow it's got a power supply basement at the bottom makes painted interior and a good layout for installing your hardware especially at the back here when it comes to cable management and support for mounting some 2.5 justice DS rounding things out with a power supply when you're looking for a power supply you're gonna want 550 watt to 650 watt for a standard gaming PC and you just want to look for these basic things having a brand that you recognize Corsair see sonic EVGA are all good options having all black cabling like the CX 550 is also a good choice and then I recommend 80 plus bronze rated at least if you can find 80 plus gold rated then that is going to be a little bit better but this one also has a $15 million rebate taking it from about $54 down to about $39 so that is how we are getting this entire system in at a price of just over $800 808 82 according to PC part picker and if you compare that to last month's $900 build most of the savings are coming from about a $80 savings with the graphics card going from an RT X 2060 to the GTX 60 and 60 Ti and then there's another $20 in savings or so from the memory also coming down in price but I think this would be a very solid performer but what if you were like Paul why don't you ever do an Intel build at this price well I have done that and that is my second build which is also an $800 build actually comes in a few bucks cheaper at $800 and 82 cents and all I have done with this build is swapped out the CPU and the motherboard because everything else can stay exactly the same it's a standard sized ATX build we can use the same power supply case graphics card storage memory we just need an updated motherboard to support the Intel socket LGA 1151 and we can even keep the same cooler with the cooler master hyper 212 black so for this build I'm just gonna concentrate on what is different and first off what is available when it comes to trying to find a CPU on the Intel side that competes with that $165 2600 so all I'm looking at here our Intel LGA 1151 CPUs that are between 151 and 218 dollars here and note to the core count listing right here we have two cores we have four cores six cores with the i-5 90 400 F and the cheapest you can get that is 175 dollars this is the CPU that I chose but I'm gonna come back to in just a second if we keep going down the list we see dual cores quad-core there's another six core in the i-5 8400 but that's about 25 dollars more than the 9400 f so I increase the top-end price here just to see what we would need to pay in order to get a six core unlocked for overclocking CPU from Intel and for that we'd have to go up to the eighty six hundred K which costs to it in $60 and that's about ninety five dollars more than you would pay for the r5 2600 and when you just pay for six cores on the intel side you also are not getting an unlocked processor so here's the ninety four hundred F the F on the end means it doesn't have integrated graphics so that kind of sucks but since we are adding a graphics card to this bill with a 16 16 TI we don't need those integrated graphics and because of that Intel feels okay selling it for the price of one hundred and seventy five dollars the CPU will run at a max turbo frequency of 4.1 gigahertz according to some of the comments I've read about it it's gonna run at about 3.9 or 4 gigahertz on all cores when it's actually under load and it's only got a 65 watt TDP so you're not gonna have any issue running this processor at it's rated speeds even with a less expensive motherboard and I suppose the silver lining to this CPU being locked and not able to be overclocked is that you don't have to spend the money on an unlocked for overclocking motherboards so for that reason we got the asrock be 365 Pro 4 here available for about 90 to $100 and again this motherboard is gonna have all those basic features that you wants when it comes to memory slots and expandability not a high-end motherboard but it does have two m dot two slots and that will allow you to put this entire system together for the low low price of around eight hundred dollars but it's not unlocked for overclocking you cannot add and unlocked for overclocking CPU to this system and then overclock it because of the motherboard the ears stuck with so when it comes to an upgrade path for the CPU in this build you'd be pretty limited you'd basically we want to stick with existing locked CPUs from Intel that would offer more cores or more threads and there's not a whole lot of those maybe like than 8700 which gives you six cores and twelve threads beyond that you have like a 9700 K and a 9900 K but those are much more expensive CPUs and they're unlocked for overclocking which wouldn't be a sensible pairing for the motherboard that you buy for the system so again that upgrade path magic that you get on the AMD side doesn't exist here that isn't to say this system shouldn't be built it's just for somebody who is interested in overclocking isn't interested in upgrading their CPU down the line and you probably be more focused on just the single core performance of the CPU which means you're probably focused on gaming strictly I have one more build to run down for you guys this is a $2,000 system it is a mini ITX PC it is again Intel based so for anyone who's like Paul what would you recommend for an Intel system this right here but it's a bit more of a nitch system a bit more specialized and so for that reason we have a total price of well about one thousand nine hundred and thirty-five dollars and the core components here are gonna be the i7 8700 K for the CPU as well as the G I'm sorry the RT x 2070 for the GPU and then of course the case that I'm building in which is right here the century 2.0 from doctors a bird which is a new case which is launching later in March they sent me this engineering sample to do it build with so that's what I'm gonna do although this case is on the more expensive side they're listing a MSRP of 230 euros for this which is about $250 US but it is one of these smallest cases that you can build in and I'm kind of interested to see what changes they've made from the century 1.0 to the 2.0 1.0 was originally a Kickstarter and they've done a bunch of cool stuff to upgrade the second version based on a lot of feedback they've gotten from people like you guys in the first version let's run down the parts here you've got the i7 8700 K in my opinion right now the best bang for your buck when you're looking at intel side because it's unlocked you get six cores and twelve threads it's less money than the 9700 k and you get more threads and basically when it comes to per core performance if you're running this at the same frequency that you're running a 9700 k it it's gonna be the same gaming performance Intel unlock CPUs do not come with a cooler and I wanted 120-millimeter all-in-one to fit in this case because the case supports 120 millimeter all-in-one liquid cooler for your CPU as long as you use a shorter graphics card so I have the Corsair h-60 here which I sure hope fits the main requirements here are we need a reasonably slim radiator for the hundred twenty millimeter cooler and then just a single fan it's gonna go on top of that so I'm pretty confident this will fit in the case for a motherboard we've got the asus rog strict c through ninety - i gaming mini ITX motherboard which I happen to have which was a part of the reason I chose it it's also a high-end z3 90 motherboard that can actually overclock even though it's still Mini ITX it's got a nice assortment of i/o on the back including integrated Wi-Fi and a fixed IO shield it is on the pricier side though coming in at around a hundred and ninety to two-hundred dollars so yes you could get a lot more performance building a full-size ATX system and not being saddled with this many of the requirements I am with this case I just can point that out because I'm sure people will mention it in the comments anyway for memory I've just got a Corsair Vengeance lpx kit 3200 speeds so it's gonna be fast and it's low-profile and there's no side panel viewing window in the system or anything so all black is just fine I had an interesting experience when it came to choosing an SSD my initial plan was to go with about a 1 terabyte MDOT to nvme SSD for the main operating system and everything and then for a secondary drive I was just gonna find a SATA SSD like this a 2 terabyte 2.5 inch drive that would give you a one terabyte nvme for your operating system and a lot of stuff and then two more terabytes of SSD storage giving you three terabytes total and then I went on PC part picker and I went to looked at SSDs and the capacities between one and two terabytes and sorted by price per gigabyte and guess what appears at the top the Intel 660 P series both the two terabyte and the one terabyte in fact the two terabyte Intel 660 P right now is the best price per gigabyte actually 11 cents per gigabyte that's beating out a lot of SATA SSDs and when it comes to the Intel 660 P with this isn't the 660 I just wanted to hold something in my hand it will sometimes get some criticism because it uses key qlc memory which is four bits per cell when it comes to the actual NAND flash that's on the drive that can affect its write speed so if you're doing a long sustained writes to the drive it can slow down however it's still much faster than any standard SATA Drive so as a result my storage configuration for this build is a 1 terabyte Intel 660 P and a 2 terabyte until 660 P and fortunately my motherboard has 2 m dot 2 slots it's got one on the front and one on the back so I can use both of them at the same time and I just think that's so funny like I spent extra time on this thinking like no like is is that really practical and yeah for the price right now it is the most practical and the 660 P makes a great operating system drive because response speed and read speeds are still really good on it a real quick here's a look at the dr. Xavier website which I just think it's funny because they like hey we have these massive industrial machines that we make or you know we do some work with wind turbines or we've got this little mini ITX PC which I just think is awesome but you can find a link in the description if you want to check out the actual product page for this they have manuals for the earlier version and a newer version you can also subscribe if you want to get an email when the century 2.0 will be available if you've got the scratch it is on the more expensive side but very very compact it's like a 7 liter size they've maintained the same size from the century 1.0 but when it comes to the internal layout you'll find with a 7 liter case you know things can get a little cramped in there so we're gonna do an SFX power supply and 120 millimeter liquid cooler that goes down there which means our graphics card needs to be 170 millimeters now I'm not 100% sure right now when it comes to the PCI Express power plugs if we're gonna have compatibility on this because doctors aber currently isn't listening compatibility for RTX cards they have a bunch of compatibility listed for a 10 series as well as existing AMD cards but this is one of those cases where especially if you're putting a all-in-one liquid cooler radiator down here the length of the card very much does matter so for that reason I wanted the highest end graphics card that could fit in there I was looking for many ITX r-tx 2080s those don't seem to exist at this time maybe they will in the future in which case I would totally swap out for one of those but for $500 you can get the gigabyte geforce r-tx 2070 which is super small 170 millimeters in length actually 160 9.9 is what they list so obviously this card isn't gonna stay as cool some of the bigger RTX 27 TS with more massive coolers but you're not going to be able to fit those in a case that is as small as the century' 2.0 rounding things out we need a sfx power supply the corsair SF 600 is a great one because it's fully modular it's all black so it's gonna blend in nicely aesthetic aesthetics wise and then of course it's got all black modular cables too so another product that i've used before that I'm very confident will work just fine in this build so I building this system later this month let me know in the comments section if you have any feedback on that or suggestions for me and also let me know what you think of the builds I've put together for this month but guys that's gonna wrap it up for this video thank you so much for watching my March 2019 builds video links to the parts lists on PC part picker as well as all the individual parts are also down in the description so check that out hit the thumbs up button on the way out if you enjoyed this video and we'll see you guys next time
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