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fractal design cases have inspired modders all over the world who have built some amazing systems like this Darkseid themed case by George priscilla's showcasing the spacious internals in the define s or metallic acid a mini ITX system by Justin Olson featuring a white black and red color scheme and a super clean layout in they define Nano s there are a ton more awesome builds like these on fractal designs modding series page so check it out via the sponsor link in this video's description and get inspired for your next project ladies and gentlemen today intel hath launched upon us their 8th gen core series of desktop CPUs aka coffee lake refreshing and updating their mainstream line up with new Z 370 motherboards and yes you do need a 300 series chipset motherboard for compatibility with these new coffee Lake CPUs today I have the flagship 6 core 12 thread core i7 8700 K as well as the mid-range 6 core at 6 thread I 580 400 I suppose there are two ways to view this launch you might say that Intel the leader in CPU technology who has done and continues to do wonderful things for their customers has bestowed upon us increased core counts and higher frequencies with this new platform at prices that are affordable to PC builders everywhere or maybe Intel the once fallen champion of CPUs beleaguered by AMD's relentless onslaught of launches in 2017 from rise into thread Ripper seeing their market share shrink had no choice but to fight back with a rushed to market launch of a platform that once again forces their mainstream users to buy a new motherboard despite the advent of six core processors personally though I like to let the numbers speak for themselves so the benchmarks will be my focus today as I picked the 8700 K and 8400 against Intel's previous mainstream flagship the fork or a thread 7700 K as well as AMD's risin 7 1800 X with 8 cores and 16 threads and Andes risin 5 1600 X with 6 cores and twelve threats now part from the Z 370 chipset which has the exact same features as Z 270 there's a small stack of CPUs coming out today with a broader lineup promised in q1 2018 at the bottom of the stack you have the Intel Core i3 8100 a 4 core 4 thread CPU with no hyper threading or boost 3.6 gigahertz base clock is all you get and 65 watt TDP this has dual-channel ddr2 Slyke all of the CPUs in the stack but it will retail for just above one hundred and seventeen dollars bear in mind the prices here are all prices for buying a thousand CPUs at once bulk pricing so expect retail prices to be maybe twenty to thirty dollars more than this next up is the core i3 8350 case still no turbo boost or hyper threading but who cares because it's unlocked for overclocking but it is more than $50 more expensive than its sibling the 8100 so that's a pretty big jump but I guess it's kind of what they had to do to keep it competitive with their own other processors I don't know but 91 know what TDP and six Meg's of cash on this one next is i-5 8400 that I'll be testing today 2.8 gigahertz base and a 4 gigahertz boost 6 cores and 6 threads 65 watt TDP and 182 dollars retail pricing so I'm expecting this one to be around 200 the high 580 600 K is the unlocked 6 core quad core with no hyper threading again so 6 cores and 6 threads 95 watt TDP I'm expecting this to be a popular chip 257 is the bulk price for that one next is the i7 8700 here with the i7 s you get hyper threading so 6 cores and 12 threads only a 65 watt TDP on this one and a 4.6 gigahertz boost so this one might be a very viable option for those of you who aren't looking to overclock and finally at the top the i7 8700 k 3.7 gigahertz based 4.7 gigahertz boost 6 cores 12 threads 95 watt TDP 12 Meg's of cash and 359 dollars so I'm expecting this one to be probably closer to 400 I one thing I did notice about these CPUs are they do of course have variable clock speed so the 8700 K for example was idling at 800 megahertz which led to some pretty decent power draw numbers but I'll come back to those after we do the benchmarks on all cores went under a full load it was going at 4.3 gigahertz and when it was using some cores but not all it would be about 4.4 to 4.6 gigahertz and then the peak boost on a single core it was 4.7 gigahertz as for the rest of the test vet of course I had to use a motherboard so for that I have the gigabytes Oris z3 70 Ultra gaming a mid-range motherboard so a very reasonable price and a nice feature set go along with it for all the memory I'm using g.skill ddr4 kits and 2x8 gig configurations all running at casa latency 14 14 14 14 34 to be specific and ddr4 3,200 speed that gave me the exact same memory configuration and speed across all of my test beds of course had to make sure that all my BIOS and UEFI are up to date running the FI version on these e 370 eltra gaming here running the latest Nvidia drivers for the GTX 10 80 TI Strix ultra gaming from Asus that I was using as the GPU for all of the gaming tests and then for cooling on the Intel and the AMD platforms I'm using the NZXT creakin X 62 moving into the benchmarks proper though first off with Cinebench of course tested and multi thread configuration we can see of course more cores and more threads is going to give you a better score so the 1800 X comes out on top here with the Tate's cores and 16 threads 87 undercuts got the chops with 6 cores and twelve threads though scoring 1430 and beating out the 1600 X that also has six cores and twelve threads there you seeing the single core advantage for Intel CPUs which they already had with KB Lake so no surprise that they are continuing to have with coffee like next is a single-threaded tests and here we can see the 8700 k takes the win over the 7700 case scoring 203 just as just a smidgen faster and that's most likely just due to the fox feed since it is running at about 4.7 vs. 4 point 5 gigahertz moving on to cpu mark which is part of past marks performance tests and runs a bunch of different tests testing different softwares and different parts of the CPUs architecture and here we actually saw the single core advantage giving the 8702 cable lead with the score of sixteen thousand two hundred eighty seven even though it only has 12 threads versus the 1800 x with 16 threads let's see if that carries out further on in the testing as well in the single threaded test with CPU mark we saw 8700 case or a new all-time high two thousand seven hundred and seventeen at least when I do it include overclocking beating out to seventy seven hundred case 2627 and here we can see the rise in CPU is lagging behind with scores just over 2000 moving on to blender a very popular 3d modeling and rendering software this is time and second so bear in mind that a lower score is better here and that means that the 8700 K wins yet again beating out the 1,800 X by about three seconds so that is showing its advantage this is a shorter test though so let's switch over to the blender BMW 27 test which takes a bit longer and here we can actually see the 1,800 X taking the lead with only 296 seconds elapsed just barely though with the 8700 K coming in with 303 seconds I also want to point out here the 1600 X which is a comparable in price to the i5 8400 and the thread advantage that it has with all 12 threads versus the 8400 with only six definitely helps it take the lead here by a pretty significant margin switching gears to some gaming tests and these are synthetics so they do also have some CPU specific scores 3d market fire strike ultra shows overall scores that are all comparable to each other because when it comes down to it your CPUs performance will often have less of an impact on the overall gaming performance than your GPU however we do have physics tests involved here as well and physics is primarily gonna attacks the CPU 1,800 X was not quite able to beat out the 8700 K here coming in with 19,000 370 whereas the 8700 K comes in just ahead 19300 98 moving on the 3d mark x by a similar test to 3d mark firestrike ultra except it's DirectX 12 now instead of DirectX 11 the scores are all kind of similar here again in the same sort of general ballpark although we do seem to have an advantage when we have more cores and more threads because 8700 K and 1800 X are both leading the pack here you might notice when you look at graphics though that the scores are very similar just indicating that the CPU doesn't really have much effect on the GPUs performance strictly speaking but the CPU test does give the 1800 X the lead once again I did want to introduce some VR testing so 3d mark VR mark Blue Room is a very difficult test to beat actually it's looking for 90 fps and it's really challenging to get that at all however we didn't see much variance here between the different CPUs and different platforms being tested so that leads me to believe that this test is not using more than probably six threads at a time and it's also probably much more GPU bound than CPU bound moving over to some actual games is starting with rise of the Tomb Raider in DirectX 12 mode he at 1080 we actually saw a pretty decent skew when it comes to the performance of the different platforms with the 8700 K definitely taking a pretty significant lead at 160 frames per second 8400 comes in a bit slower at 145 with the 1800 X and 1600 X coming in much closer to about a 120 so it does show an advantage for the 8700 K however you'll see that this is much more evident at 1080 whereas when you move up to higher resolutions such as 1440 and 2160 a 1440 for sure we're only all at around the hundred and ten two hundred and fifteen frames per second mark with no clear leader although you might look at those minimum frame rate numbers and say well the 8700 K does seem to be keeping up a little bit better and keeping those annoying low frame rate moments from happening so that is something to consider as well when we jump up to 20 160 though we again see a similar pattern and here for some reason our rise and CPUs jump ahead and take the lead getting just a little bit faster at 61 frames per second all the minimum frame rates are roughly in the same ballpark one more DirectX 12 test with civilization 6 and here is one of those weird tests where the resolution doesn't seem to matter all that much civics doesn't really care what resolution you're running at it carries a little bit more about the clock speed if your CPU though if that's any indication with the 8700 K taking the lead here again with eighty five point nine frames per second at 1080 at least 1600 X and 1800 X are pretty close behind though with about 83 FPS at 1440 we see similar scores with the 8700 K and 1800 X 1600 X starting to lag behind just a little bit 8400 I don't really know why but came in pretty low here with the score of just shy of 75 frames per second and then if we move over to 4k we see higher frame rates and some tests at I don't know civics go home sip 6 your your Trump but again the 8400 that was what the one thing that was consistent this entire time was at 8400 with it's only 6 threads available to it scored lower than the rest of the test so maybe sip 6 is more optimized for 8 threads or more let's switch over to DirectX 11 starting with total war Warhammer to a fairly new title and a new addition to my test bench suite and as excited as I was to get this test underway it really hasn't shown much variance between any of these platforms at all this is clearly not a cpu-bound game and because at 1080 we scored just 115 fps everywhere with roughly the same 0.1% lows 1440 again about 81 fps no matter what CPU I have this paired up with and point 1% lows all around 70 and a 4k we have about 44 - 45 frames per second with 0.1% lows just short of that's at 38 to 40 overwatch is a very popular shooter from Blizzard Entertainment's and at 1080 it's actually capped at 300 frames per second max so that is what we're seeing just about with every every setup that we have here about 290 or 300 fps and that's just because it's hitting the max so there might be some variance there but it doesn't doesn't really matter at 1080 which which kind of sucks because I would be interested to see where it's actually capping off beyond that but you can't go beyond 300 with this game at 1440 though we start to see a little bit of a break from that and here interestingly the rise in CPUs are doing really well I mean I wanna say really well but they are marginally better performance than the coffee League CPUs so I thought that was something that was noteworthy and it actually continued along in the 4k testing as well about 109 frames per second out of the 1800 X and 1600 X whereas the copy leaks were more down in the low hundreds and finally player unknowns battlegrounds this is actually a fairly difficult game to benchmark simply because it's multiplayer there's random starting locations so so just so you guys know as actually running these benchmarks in the starting location and that allowed me to be a lot more consistent I did have to make sure that I was restarting and joining a new game any time I encountered a rain or fog because that was definitely affecting the performance but what I found was the numbers you're gonna see here are kind of a nice mid-range when you're actually playing the game you might see slightly higher frame rates than this when you're out in open fields where there's a lot less polygons and you might see slightly lower frame rates than these if you're in a town or a city that has a lot more polygons the coffee-like CPUs at 1080 though didn't show an advantage so that is something worth pointing out 1600 X came in last with a score of 96 frames per second moving up to 1440 the numbers start to even out a little bit with both of our coffee Lakes CPUs scoring just shy of 90 frames per second the rise in CPUs coming in in low 80s and then if we move over to 4k we see pretty much equivalents across the board here's where the game actually becomes majority GPU model active versus CPU so we get the same frame rate no matter what platform we're testing on and then I've got one last slide for you guys here this is power draw and as previously mentioned the copy like CPU seemed to be editing very very nicely only about 49 watts drawn compared to the 70 or so from the Rison platforms on average though we did see good power draw out of the calculate CPUs about 358 watts 335 watts on average from the 8700 K and 8400 K and that was a little bit less than we were drawing from the 1800 X and 1600 X so it is nice to know that performance wise these are keeping up with these n CPUs which are known to be very power efficient so I hope you guys have enjoyed those benchmarks because they took a freaking long time to run all of them especially doing across all of those platforms and I I ran all these tests fresh I didn't use any old numbers or anything like that so I hit the thumbs up button if you like me running benchmarks I guess anyway though I chose the comparison CPUs that I chose for instance the 1800 X versus the 8700 K specifically because of the price so the 1800 X you can easily find it for about 400 bucks right now 8702 k we're expecting to be just about that same price maybe a little bit less and the argument you could make there is there's other AMD rise and eight core CPUs that you can get for this chip is 300 bucks and you can overclock any of those to perform pretty much equivalent with the 1800 X anyway now the 1600 X you can find for about 200 bucks and it is also a solid competitor for the i5 8400 overall I would say that Intel single core performance advantage is definitely still there nothing has changed as far as going from KB Lake to coffee Lake the architecture is supposed to be pretty much the same apart from refinements and we don't necessarily refine see refinements make significant performance improvements unless it's just something like running at a higher frequency and that's pretty much what they're doing so as might be expected in situations where single core performance takes the lead which it does in a lot of games and was demonstrated at least some of the games that I showed off today you'll see better performance out of Intel's coffee League CPUs but all around you can get very close to that performance with AMD's rise and lineup as well so it does beg the question what are you planning to do with the system that you're building if you're planning to focus on gaming and a lot of people are and that was one of the big reasons to recommend a 7700 K even after the rise and stuff launched was well that's probably going to be your best bet 8700 K is now probably for now and the near future going to be clearly the go-to chip when it comes to building a mid to high end gaming system and the fact that you can now take advantage of six cores and twelve threads compared to four cores and eight threads that we've had prior to now means the games that take advantage of those threads are going to benefit and also it's gonna help with doing things like gaming and streaming at the same time I didn't do gaming and streaming testing today I'll sit into overclocking testing today mainly because I wanted to do that wide breadth of comparison versus several different see if you line up so that was my choice I will hopefully be coming back to those topics very soon as well but that's pretty much all the time I have for today's video you guys I really hope you've enjoyed it I need to get some sleep or something like that because I've had to delay arctic panther girl for like several days to take care of this and that's been weighing on me I want to get back to that very soon but thanks so much again for watching this video guys if you did enjoy it of course it thumbs up button on your way outs and leave a comment in the comment section let me know what you think about Intel's new CPU options and also let me know if you're considering building a new system soon what platform you think you're gonna go with are you gonna go with Intel's new mainstream Z 370 stuff you're gonna go with the AMD mainstream like an X 370 or B 350 and a rise in CPU the choice is yours I think if you're gonna do workstation stuff the rise in CPUs are still gonna be the best bang for your buck and the option to go with but that's that's all I should say for this video thanks again for watching guys we'll see you next time