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A $900 Gaming / Streaming PC and A $1300 High-End System - April/May 2018 Monthly Builds!

2018-04-28
the core p9 DTG from Thermaltake features a unique prism shaped open-air design so you can ogle your parts from any angle the five millimeter tempered glass keeps things classy and the three chamber design supports a full complement of hardware even if your custom water cooling for more on the core p9 DTG click the sponsor link in the description what's up guys welcome back to Pauls hardware I am bringing back my monthly build series which has been on hiatus for a couple months but the basic premise is that I go over parts lists for computers to help you guys choose the best parts to build a PC with since the first step of building new computers of course choosing which parts you want to build with now just to clarify I'm not gonna be actually assembling anything today so check out my builds playlist linked in the description if you actually want to see me put a system together and of course I do want your feedback for next month as well so check the description for a straw poll question that you might be able to give me some help with what builds do you want to see in June I have a few options here so check those out and let me know what you think I haven't forgotten the February straw poll and actually a couple of my builds are based on the popular answers from this one but I made the builds before I saw this was the number one response the worst build max price minimum performance so I'm not gonna do this today but this might deserve its own video in and of itself so vote for that for next month's if you want to see a little bit more of it for this month though my idea was that I have to theoretical customers in my brain and one customer wants to play video games and maybe kick off a streaming his career on Twitch so you want to be able to game and stream at the same time maybe do some video editing as well but budget is definitely a concern and for that I have a $900 at level build there's a second customer who's more focused on gaming it has a little bit more money to spare and for that we're gonna go with an Intel platform and that's more of a $1,300 build and of course all these builds and their parts are linked in the video description if you want to check them out I'm using PC part picker as usual to go over these parts lists so let's start with that $900 AMD low rounded gaming PC and for this I'm using the 2600 X which was what I recommended the upgrade to with my entry-level build that I did last month 2600 X is a very powerful processor 6 cores 12 threads and the at the X versus the gist of 2600 is although it's $30 more expensive you get a better cooler with it the race fire rather than the Wraith stealth and it is gonna run at a higher frequency out of the box than the 2600 so if you're not comfortable with overclocking right now then you can still run the CPU and you will get a little bit better performance out of it now beyond that I went with an X 470 motherboard 16 gigs of memory a 240 gig SSD graphics card you do need a discrete graphics card with this processor and I'll get more into how it shows that when I get down to it and then we got a case that's about 60 or 70 bucks and then a 80 plus bronze rated 550 watt power supply so this power supply should be able to handle GPU upgrade in the future I would be satisfied with this power supply with anything else like a GTX 1080 of course if you're planning on doing a lot more additions to your system in the future maybe consider a slightly higher higher wattage power supply but let's get into the motherboard selection since we already know what our CPU is now X 470 is a good way to go with this just because you know all x4 70 motherboards are going to be updated and compatible with the rise in 2000 series processors you can get a B 350 or an X 370 motherboard that will be compatible but might need a BIOS update and if you don't want to deal with that potential hassle there are X 470 boards that are available they're not even that expensive and they do typically tend to overclock if you're doing higher-end overclocking a little bit better than those B series motherboards for a hundred and forty bucks there's actually options from gigabyte asrock and msi for 20 bucks more than that you can go with the AC stuff I compared the 340 dollar boards and they're all very similar so for instance if you definitely need Wi-Fi consider that as rock because it includes a tow 2.11 AC Wi-Fi beyond that specs are really similar between them so choose which one looks pretty I want the MSI one for this build because we're going with black and red aesthetic speaking of motherboards once you've chosen your motherboard whatever it happens to be go to the motherboard manufacturers website go to the support page and look at the qvl lists qualified vendors lists and you will find memory that they have specifically tested so for the X or 70 gaming plus you can actually see CPU compatibility memory and then you can see original Rison thousand series CPUs these are the APS and then you can look specifically at what they've with the 2000 series CPUs like 2,600 2,600 and so on there's tons of options here and MSI has actually done a really good job with their memory validations so I went down this list and I was just randomly choosing because I could not cross-check all these but I like the actual product name search for it so if you can find that exact memory kit for sale because then you'll know you can plug it in and it will be compatible my choice was this a data kit didn't it's an XP GG Amex kit 16 gigs 2 by 8 gig and 162 dollars which is still expensive for 16 gigs of memory but since memory was more in the towards $200 range for a 16 gig kit recently it's actually starting to come down a little bit you get an added bonus that this memory is black and red so it should match with the motherboard choice that I've gone with as well as the case and then of course ddr4 3000 it might run at 29 33 or 3,000 speed once you plug in the XMP setting on your motherboard but I would be satisfied with that now let's talk about video cards and video cards of course really expensive and overpriced right now if you've been watching my channel you're probably familiar with that but so I didn't was looked at all the graphics cards that are available for sale right now compared them to the MSRP and found that you're still going to be paying 40 to $100 extra on top of the MSRP to get a graphics card right now if you're buying new that goes up if you're looking at something like a 1080i or GTX 1080 but the slightly more reasonably priced GPU option that I've found is a 1050 Ti you should be able to get these for about 140 or 150 dollars each they're selling 490 to 200 to 210 ish dollars but there are options and it's not that much more money since you need a discreet graphics card for this build this is what I would recommend going with it's perfectly adequate for 1080 gaming and probably a viable upgrade path in the future now if you're looking at this build and you're like yeah this looks good I want to do some streaming 6 cores and 12 threads it's great for that want to do maybe some video editing or some other heavy lifting with my computer it's all a build for that for 900 bucks there is a secondary option here that you should check out you're gonna end up with slightly older hardware but you will get a better graphics card that is the AMD Krait bundle this is the only one that's available right now but it's $550 and get you this gives you three of your main components for your system it's a be 350 Tom hockey and for motherboard from MSI so it's a slightly older motherboard and it's not as high quality as the one from with my build it's arisin 5 1600 cpu it's still six cores and twelve threads just not quite as fast as the 2600 X and finally you get an MSI Radeon rx 580 graphics card this is actually an 8 gig version as well they should sell for about $250 so you're actually getting it close to MSRP if you calculate the price of all of these things again you're just going to be dealing with slightly older hardware so that's a secondary option if you get this exact setup it will slot in with all of the other parts I've chosen on this list so you can be happy and move forward with that rounding out the list though again I've just chosen a 240 gig SSD and you should be able to find that for 60 or 70 bucks right now the 1050 Ti of course I chose the NZXT s340 black and red case if you want to choose a different case just make sure it's full-size ATX this one is a good case I've worked with it color scheme matches but cases where you have a wide variety of choices so pick one that you think looks good just double check the reviews and use you want full-size ATX so it'll fit the hardware finally that power supply 550 watt the CX series from 2017 has nice all-black cabling too so it looks pretty clean and there you have it a solid all-around build for $900 and probably due for an upgrade once graphics card prices come down now for that second customer who's really focused on gaming maybe not as much interest in video editing or streaming I have a Intel build and I'm happy to do an Intel build because I feel like I've been doing lots of AMD builds I want to share the love but hey I like the a m4 platform because of the upgrade pass but that's not to say the z3 70 has no place so this build is based out of 80 600k have to add an air cooler there because it doesn't come with a cooler z3 70 motherboard also 16 gigs of memory 240 gig SSD 1070 Ti so that's the big upgrade here with this build is the graphics card roughly the same case and a 650 watt power supply which was carried over from an older bill because it's a 80 plus gold so you're paying a little bit more for the power supply there you could save a little bit of money by going with an 80 plus bronze option but here's the CPU it's only six cores you don't get hyper-threading so you don't get twelve threads and it's a little bit more money and you don't get an air cooler so this is why I've leaned towards the AMD CPUs but if you test in CPU limited situations 280 600 K should give you a little bit more performance out of your graphics cards especially something like a 10-7 ATI then you would get out of the rise in platform so that's why we're going with this here for the motherboard I got the ACC 370 - a only 150 bucks 140 if you count the mail in rebate card a little bit of RGB accents going on there and a solid all-around motherboard from Asus I think anyone who gets this board would be pretty happy with it it's missing some bells and whistles like a surface mounted LED readout or I think it does have it's got a memo K and a power button mounted so I do appreciate that this is probably the area where AMD and Intel are kind of on the most equal footing if you're looking for a solid mid-range 150 H dollar motherboard there are good choices on either side for the memory kit for a little bit less than I chose for that for our Rison build I have a team T force Delta to RGB series same speed ddr4 3000 and it's RGB so you know RGB is fun as actually looking at Kitson I don't really care about RGB with these types of builds because my focus is less on aesthetics and more on performance but for roughly the same price why not go with RGB this is going to be a pretty nice looking build aesthetically and RGB accents are are pretty nice and you can control it if you want a single color or turn it off or that kind of thing - moving on to storage and here is where I just wanted to show you that I'm using a parametric filter from PC part picker basically I've chosen the capacity range it'll give us about a 250 gig capacity SSD sorted by lowest price but I do recommend that you kind of reality check HERE the SSDs that are recommended because whereas most SATA SSDs will get you kind of in the same ballpark in performance there are some that are slightly better than others and if it's a difference of 5 or 10 bucks you might consider something that's a little bit more well known or recognized the crucial MX 500 for example is a good option but at 75 bucks instead of 60 so there you go guys those are all the parts I would choose right now for a just under $1,300 ish build depending on whether or not you're counting mail-in rebate prices I did want to quickly go over the GPU prices right now so here's the 1070 TI sorted by lowest price I don't know what that mess RP is for the 1070 TI because it came out after the GPU prices had gone up but it should be less than 500 so it's still I feel like a 50 $60 premium over its MSRP but closer to the price you should actually be paying and actually relatively close to the price you would pay for a 1080 at least if the 1080s were selling for retail 10 70s for their part are selling for close to five hundred bucks there is this gigabyte one listed right here for 470 but my feeling is if you're going to be paying close to 500 for a 1070 you might as well just claw your way up to a 1070 TI if anyone's wondering why I haven't been including AMD GPUs well here's here's the Vega 56 supposedly the more affordable Vega 635 dollars is the cheapest still ridiculously overpriced especially when you consider that you can get a 1080 for that much and the 1080 will out performance here's the rx 580 a four gig rx 580 it's three hundred and fifteen dollars at its cheapest that should be 200 the 8 gig rx 580 should be 250 so you're paying like $100 plus for a 4 gig 580 and you're paying maybe 75 80 $90 plus for a 8 gig 580 it's a good card I would recommend it if the prices were reasonable here's what 10 80s are going for right now $600 so that's about $100 premium over what you should be paying and finally here's probably my second most viable card if you're looking for something mid-range DTX 1066 gig you can get for just under $300 still again paying 40 50 $60 extra beyond what you should for that so if you're looking for an upgrade from the 1050 Ti this is probably where I would point you of course this gets into the range of competition with the 588 gig so it's up to you make you make your choice there depending on what your gonna do now this higher-end build is geared towards somebody who's focusing on PC gaming and the benefits and wonderful things about PC gaming so I definitely recommend pairing it with a 2560 by 1440 monitor preferably preferably one that supports Jesus if you've got a Nvidia graphics card freesync if you've got an AMD graphics card and I got a couple options here just I wanted to show you guys this one's about 500 bucks for a Dell 27-inch 2560 by 1440 g-sync panel the juicing panels do cost more than precincts so if you're considering that rx 580 and you're getting a monitor at the same time definitely keep that in mind that you're gonna pay more for the g-sync monitor here's also the asus rog swift PT 2 7 8 q r 27-inch similar class to that one it's a little bit more expensive but you do get a few additional bonus features and I believe this one actually has a bit better color depth as well I actually have a third customer who I was thinking about this morning and that customer is me I am building a new computer and I am teasing I'm teasing just a few of the parts I'm choosing so far this computer is gonna be built in collaboration with Corsair and Asus so you might notice I'm using a lot of their components but I wanted to at least give you guys an idea of what I have in mind the build is going to be called Riptide and see if you can figure out why it is a thread Ripper build so the threat Ripper 1950 x16 core processor with 32 threads this was on sale for like 750 or 720 bucks the other day a pretty good deal for that much money bear in mind there's incompatibilities in these parts lists these aren't fully completed yet so please don't try to build a system off of this like the cooler is not compatible with dread Ripper and I got to talk to Corsair about that but they trumpet the eye is their newest high-end almond look the cooler rtz they've seen it's extreme motherboard 128 gig memory kit oh my gosh some Corsair SSDs including the MP 500 MB me1 and then we got a couple gtx 980ti s as well as a 1600 watt corsair power supply this isn't even a completed parts list let me know if you can tell what's missing and actually that's not even the whole build there's second part of it right here I'm including a FreeNAS built in here as well based on some discussions I had with Windell I'm actually gonna be going with that AMD APU in this one the horizon 520 400 G going with this new asus motherboard this is the RG Strix x4 70 - I gaming so AM for Mini ITX motherboard since it's a dual system builds and my goal here is for this to be a FreeNAS build so I wanted a motherboard that was compatible with ECC memory I'm hoping to slap a 32 gig kid in there a 2 by 16 gig kit but I need to double-check compatibility and I'm working with asus on that this kit has not been tested but kingston does have a 32 gig ECC ddr4 memory kit only $440 super reasonable for storage i got a force le SSD just to give me a little bit more stability you can run FreeNAS off of like a USB drive but when i did that last year the USB drive died and that kind of sucked but for a storage mass storage I got WD red 8 terabyte drives I haven't ordered these yet so I got to figure that out for sure but 4 8 terabyte drives it's 32 terabytes which matches well with the 32 gigabytes it's good to have about 1 gig of memory per terabyte of storage with FreeNAS and finally in Corsair SFX 80 plus gold rated modular power supply so there's still some questions that need to be answered about that build but it's gonna be pretty awesome pretty epic and I'm looking forward to and hopefully we'll be getting started on that in the next couple weeks so that will be my build for the month of May and I will of course like I usually do build that system and then test it and show you guys what happens and the performance and all that good stuff so stay tuned for that and if you have any questions or theories about the mysterious things that I did not clarify for sure then leave those in the comment section down below because I like when you guys comment on my videos I also like when you hit the like button or the thumbs up button as it is also commonly known so feel free to do that for me as well on the way out thank you guys so much for watching this video and we'll see you next time
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