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the core p9 DTG from Thermaltake features a unique prism shaped open-air design so you can ogle your parts from any angle the five millimeter tempered glass keeps things classy and the three chamber design supports a full complement of hardware even if your custom water cooling for more on the core p9 DTG click the sponsor link in the description well guys Rison - has launched this is my initial benchmarking video for it so thank you so much for stopping by to check this video out and of course if you enjoy it don't forget to hit the thumbs up button on your way up before you leave today there are four new CPUs available for purchase you can see them all here you've got the eight core 60 and thread 2,700 X and 2,700 as well as the six core 12 thread twenty six hundred and twenty six hundred for overclocking just like first gen Rison and they all come with CPU coolers the Wraiths aspire for most of them or the new wraith prism with RGB lights and actual heat pipes on it if you're going to shell out three hundred and thirty dollars for the 2700 X these are all also based on these n+ architecture which is a refinement of the original Zen architecture from last year it's manufactured on the Global Foundries 12 nanometer process the result is CPUs that can run at higher frequencies about 250 megahertz faster across the board with reduced cache Layton sees while still remaining backwards compatible with existing socket am 4 motherboards although older 300 series motherboards might need a UEFI update before they accept new 2000 series CPUs so make sure that whatever board you choose if you're getting a 300 series says AMD rise in desktop 2000 ready on it and that should at least provide you boot support with these new 2000 series processors so you can get the board up and running and then run the BIOS update or if you're setting up a new system and buying parts 400 series boards with the x4 70 chips that are now available x4 70 boards will have the best high-end overclocking for ships like the 2600 X and 2700 X and they'll also let you use store mi which is AMD's new SSD caching solution it's actually pretty flexible since you can set it up and remove it after you've installed Windows and it integrates a ddr4 caching layer as well but I'm gonna have to cover that in more detail in a separate video for now though let's take a look at my testing setup I'm going to be comparing the 2700 X and 2600 X to the 1st gen rise in 1600 X and 8 and I'll also include Intel's six core 12 through at 8700 K to see how a team blues top mainstream chip stacks up all the CPUs are running at stock frequencies with turbo boost or precision boost enabled I set up the testbed on the new Asus crosshair seven hero this is the successor to the crosshair six hero that I used which is the X 370 motherboard this has the X 470 chipset and I've updated it with the latest bios version provided by Asus which is version zero five zero eight which was launched on April 13th for the memory I have enabled XMP mode with Asus they call it do CP but I enabled the XMP profile for ddr4 at 3200 cats latency 1414 14:34 at one point three five volts I also wanted to turn off anything that might be extra there and the BIOS settings to make sure that I was just getting the stock performance like most people could expect with the 2700 X to 2600 X out of the box with any motherboard so performance enhancer is set to default performance bias is set to none and core performance boost is enabled to make sure that we can get that precision Boost 2.0 the memory kid has a G scale tried NCR gb ddr4 kit it's a 2 by 8 gig kits ddr4 3200 cast latency 14 my storage drive is a samsung 960 pro 512 gig nvme SSD and the power supplies in EVGA 750 watt g3 finally for a graphics card across all the tests we're using an Asus GTX 1080 TI Strix with NVIDIA 3:9 1.35 drivers my first test is a tried-and-true Cinebench benchmark in multi-threaded performance mode we can see the 8 cores and 16 threads really taking off with a total score of 1789 for the 2700 X and 1358 for the 2600 X here you'll see a trend that continues throughout my testing which is the 2700 X winning when multi-core is a factor the 2600 X coming up pretty close in some situations to the 1800 X but of course beating out the 1600 X in all scenarios the 2700 X does seem to consistently beat the 8700 K but more on that as we move on Cinebench single thread is an important test because it shows the single threaded performance advantage that Intel still has with the 8700 K with the score of 203 the 2,700 X is increasing it's single sided performance with a score of 178 as compared to last generations one-sixty moving on - cpu mark overall score here is 17,000 693 for the 2700 X and just over 15,000 for the 2600 X that's over a 1000 point jump going from the 1600 X to the 2600 X so nice to know that even folks who are being a little bit more on the budget side with a 230 dollar range CPU are still getting a nice performance boost CPU mark single thread shows similar performance differences to Cinebench single thread with again the 8700 k coming out on top with a score of two thousand seven hundred and seventeen moving on to blender this is the splash fishy cat render and here we can see all the times within the 30-second range the 2,700 X does manage to break into the sub 30 seconds with a twenty nine point eight second score faster is better here of course and we can see the other chips falling in line as expected compared to the Cinebench tests here's the BMW 27 render also using blender and again we can see that the 2700 X with all of its cores and threads beats out all the competition with a time of 265 seconds the 8700 K was previously neck and neck with the 1800 X with only a six-second differential but with the updated Zen + architecture we can see the 2700 X pulling away moving on to 3d mark firestrike ultra we have overall graphics and physics results here bear in mind the graphics is all testing the same graphics card but we can see slight variations depending on the CPU that is paired up with the physics core is probably what you want to pay attention to here and again the 2700 X wins with the score of 20 1140 here's 3d mark time spice similar to fire strike ultra but we're talking DirectX 12 now instead of DirectX 11 again we have overall graphics and CPU scores and once again we can see the 2700 X just dominating the CPU score with 8901 moving on to some game testing here is rise of the Tomb Raider DirectX 12 mode we're testing geothermal valley and we're doing all these tests at 1920 by 1080 because that will show more difference in performance when it comes to the CPU as opposed to just testing what the graphics card can do of course some games are tuned differently than others but with rise of the Tomb Raider we can see a variance here the 8,700 case should give us the best performance out of the 10 atti if cpu is a factor at all and here we can see that play out with the average frame rate of 150 9.5 seconds whereas our rise in CPUs are coming in a good 20 to 30 FPS below that now in this test it was the most exaggerated but as we move on we can see that that is not always the case total war Warhammer 2 for example shows pretty much zero variation between any of the CPUs I tested this means that we are GPU limited rather than CPU limited the CPU is not holding the graphics card back at all this is what the graphics card is capable of putting out at 1920 by 1080 115 frames per second across the board moving over to Grand Theft Auto 5 and here again we can see some variation between the CPUs the best frame rate 164 FPS with 8700 K but we did get respectable frame rates beyond that in the 130 and 140 frames per second range with the Rison based CPUs so there's a drop-off in performance there but this again is at 1080 if you were to increase the resolution to 2560 by 1440 or 4k you'd see those numbers even out so we're really Rhett testing at the low resolution just to show the difference speaking of difference or lack thereof over watch at 1920 by 1080 is pretty much hitting the 300 frames per second cap with a GT X 1080 Ti so all the results are just shy of that and I probably didn't even need to run this test but it's there so there you go play all the overwrought you want with the 1080 Ti and finally player unknowns battlegrounds which is known to suffer some from some optimization issues so here again we can see some difference in frame rates with the 8700 K coming out on top without n54 frames per second but the 2700 X and 2600 Edge x definitely catching up compared to last generation with scores of 140 to 124 frames per second respectively next to some power draw comparisons I'm testing the total system power draw as measured from the wall so not just the CPU but also the graphics card and everything included as well I'm testing average and peak power draw while winning the 3d mark firestrike ultra combined test and then of course idle once the system has been sitting still for about a half an hour with nothing going on to make sure it's completely idle it does seem like the idle numbers have improved a little bit so only 61 50 59 watts of power drawn win a title so it's a little bit better that we saw with the X 370 motherboard so maybe some power efficient see improvements with x4 70 that's just speculation I don't actually know what causes that difference but when it comes to average power drought we're seeing a bit of an increase but not significant the 2700 X did draw the most power 385 watts on average with a peak at 414 and just about a 10 watt drop off for the 2600 X and all of this is still within the same general range as the 1800 X and 1600 X 8700 K has the lowest listed average power draw it here but bear in mind that is a 6 core processor and it is at least in the case of the 1800 X and 2700 X being compared to 8 core processors as well on the temperatures though and I did decide to use the Wraiths prism cooler for both of the CPUs the 2700 X and 2600 X so bear that in mind when I'm comparing these temperatures Zen plus is actually more efficient than the original Zen for example AMD tested at 3.5 gigahertz fixed frequency and found it drew 11% less power but since they also increased the clock speeds the TDP actually went up from 95 watts on the 1800 X to 105 watts for the 2700 X and my Ida 64 stress test after a 15-minute run both CPUs were topping out just shy of 90 degrees Celsius voltages were peaking at about 1.4 to 1.5 volts even but those were just peak numbers as it was running it was actually about 1.3 volts on average I also want to point out that when you're looking at the i-264 temperature check here you can see little Peaks so the temperature rises gets up near 90 degrees and then the CPU frequency throttles back just a little bit in order to account for that higher temperature temperature drops back down towards 80 and the cycle continues the upshot and what we're looking at here with the 2700 X is a frequency of about 4 gigahertz across all cores when it's under a stress test load like this but we see that drop off to about 3.9 five or even 3.9 gigahertz as temperatures ramp up thanks to the way precision boosts 2 works however it's able to ramp down that clock speed more slowly and that maintains a higher frequency for a little bit more of the time so you're not going to see as much performance drop off as you might have with precision boost 1.0 here in my screen cap you can also see the new rise in master 1.3 software it has been updated with some new features like showing the motherboard socket power and sustained vrm capacity as well as a little gold star on your fastest core it also gives you a little over star on your second-fastest core and then a couple silver circles indicating the course on your fastest CCX unit on the CPU the chips are been at the factory according to AMD and these values as far as what the fastest core is are actually hard-coded and for each processor and I'm not covering overclocking today but I did at least want to mention it since all these CPUs are unlocked for overclocking similar to last generation you could save $30 and go with the non X CPU like a 2600 $499 versus the 2600 X for 230 dollars overclock it and get yourself pretty close to that 2600 X performance that said I only did some brief overclocking with the CPUs and there doesn't seem to be a ton of overclocking Headroom it is there but it's pretty minimal again similar to the first-generation Rison you should expect 4 gigahertz across all cores whether you're talking about the 6 core or the 8 core it seems to be achievable without overclocking although it will ramp off the speed a little bit depending on the temperatures in the cooling solution that you're using 4.1 or 4.2 gigahertz on all cores seems to be a fairly reasonable expectation if you're manually overclocking depending on your processor and your motherboard of course and potentially 4.3 gigahertz or even 4.4 gigahertz on all cores might happen but that's going to be more challenging more of a stretch goal you're gonna have to play the silicon lottery a little bit and you're probably gonna need to go with high-end air or liquid cooling in order to maintain those higher frequencies so guys that pretty much covers it for my introductory benchmarks for risin 2 CPUs the 2700 X and 2600 X both tested today and I'm pretty impressed obviously this isn't like a massive sea change in performance they weren't promising this is a brand new architecture or anything like that but since we also have backwards compatibility with a m4 motherboards and existing be 350 and X 370 chipsets it's not too bad it means you could take for example like in my video I did on my $500 build earlier this year a system that you built for a relatively little money and upgrade it from like a quad-core with no simultaneous multi-threading to an 8 core 16 thread CPU I mean it's a pretty massive shift in performance and it's really cool that you can get such a wide range of processors on a single platform I don't even mind the fact that they have new motherboards that are x4 70 there's a few extra features that you get there but nothing that would make be 350 or X 370 motherboard users feel like wow I really need to upgrade for this new stuff there's a couple new things there and hopefully check out store mi in the future but for now I'd like to hear what you guys think about this new product launch so let me know down in the video's description what you think of the new processors if you think the performance is up to snuff and if you're considering a build based on the new platform or the 2700 X through 2,700 2,600 X or 2,600 even and of course don't forget that the thumbs up button on your way out if you enjoyed this video thank you guys so much for watching and we'll see you next time