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what's up guys I am not at Computex this year but that is not going to stop me from doing Computex coverage so this is my first Computex video because Lisa sue just finished AMD's first Computex keynote ever it's not their first time visiting Computex just their first time doing it keynote and I have good news and bad news the good news is we have some great new info and release dates for third gen Rison the bad news is when it comes to Navi news the news was a little bit slimmer there's just a single demo that they shared as well as some architecture and naming updates so I'm going to structure this video by doing the important stuff first we have three upcoming products based on 3rd gen rise and that have been announced and confirmed we have a rise in 730 700 X which is an 8 core 16 thread CPU for 329 dollars it has 36 megabytes of cache a 4.4 gigahertz boost and 3.6 gigahertz based and only a 65 watt TDP that sounds like a pretty nice chip for 330 dollars they followed that up with the arisin 730 800 X which is an 8 core 16 thread chip as well but this time it'll boost up to 4 point 5 gigahertz with a 3.6 gigahertz base clock and a 105 watt TDP so we have a 40 watt TDP increase for the 3800 X for a 100 megahertz boost to its top speed that's kind of weird but moving on the hugest news I think is that we now have confirmation that we have a risin 9 series coming at us they've only shared the 3900 X so far which is a 12 core and 24 thread CPU we do have news that there's probably going to be 16 core versions as well but more on that in just a second this one's going to sell for 499 dollars MSRP was 70 Meg's of cash a 4.6 gigahertz boost clock and a 3.8 gigahertz base and still a 105 watt TDP so the 3900 X 12 core is gonna be 500 bucks and they did that demo it actually had a few demos and for that test they tested it against the 99 20x which sells for $1200 right now but I'm getting ahead of myself but one random thing I wanted to mention really quickly is that AMD accidentally pre streamed some of this information they were the stream was live and they were doing a rehearsal so some of this information actually leaked out pretty early I think tweaked em picked it up as well as a few other news sources but going back to sort of the fundamental of Rison three arisin third-generation Rison 3000 series CPUs and what it is we found out all this information at CES but there based on the seven nanometer manufacturing process is going to be put together by TSM C so these are Xen two cores which are based on the second generation Xen architecture as opposed to the sort of in-between Zen plus that they did last year with the 12 nanometer launch of the rise in 2000 series still using socket a.m. for motherboards so we're gonna have some backwards compatibility but we are going to have some new motherboards coming out as well and then yes PCI Express Gen 4 support now it comes to the CPU core they did some comparisons and these are just AMD numbers but looking at Zen plus 12 nanometer versus Zen 2 7 nanometer they say they're getting 2 times the floating-point performance they have doubled the cache size and this is specifically to reduce memory latency which should be very helpful for gaming and then they said that we're aiming for about an 8% IPC improvement but they actually hit 15% again according to AMD's numbers but if that is true and if that maintains being true then that's pretty good news for AMD pretty good news for anyone who's looking to buy one of these CPUs and probably pretty bad news for insel because that was one of their biggest selling points for their current generation of processors but I don't want to get too ahead of myself there either they did run some demos that I wanted to share with you Cinebench r20 was the demo that they ran for the 3,700 X so the entry-level as far as what they've shown us so far versus a 9700 case or going an a core 16 thread CPU versus an 8 core 8 thread CPU and I wasn't able to see the final scores but according to Robert Halleck who never lies it was about 30% faster the 3700 X which you would hopefully expect since we're dealing with a lot more threads but the second demo they ran was pub G gaming demo this was with a 3,800 X versus a 9900 case so trying to show of the best gaming performance that Intel can provide what is AMD now able to put up against it again this was sort of an AMD centric test because it's a test that they put together but with pub G they were getting about the same performance 145 to 150 fps so if they can maintain equivalent performance when it comes to graphics with these new CPUs especially compared to in Intel's best then that's pretty good news because again that is an area where Intel has formerly had a lead but we'll see if they can hang on to that the final demo was for the high end ship and this was using blender testing the $1200 99 20x which is on their high-end desktop platform with the x2 99 chipset that got 38 seconds in the blender render versus the 3900 X's 32 seconds so about 18% faster and according to them this was a core to core test although we can't exactly verify that both of these chips were running at the same frequency across all cores so we should take this with a grain of salt until we can see some independent third-party testing but it does look promising the final demo that they shared was a sort of full demo with their entire ecosystem since AMD makes processors as well as graphics cards with their Radeon division we did the 3800 X so the $400 eight core 16 thread CPU in a Navi demo with the new Radeon rx 5700 from the rx 5000 series which was going to be what Navi is manifested as and they were testing that against the system with a 9900 K and a 20 atti which should be pretty much the best possible gaming system you can put together right now the tests they ran though was a 3d mark feature set test so this is really focused on like how much potential there is with the system setup so they're really testing PCI Express gen for bandwidth versus Gen 3 and so it was 69% more bandwidth available with the new system with PCI Express Gen 4 I don't think they were specifically trying to say that a Radeon rx 5700 and a 3800 X will be tan 9900 K at 2080 TI and pure gaming but if that's the impression you walked away with then I'm sure AMD marketing is like yes we're doing our job well what they're talking about is that you get more bandwidth with PCI Express Gen 4 but I don't think that will immediately equate to better performance in gaming we'll have to wait and see it should just be a slight difference because most graphics cards don't even use the bandwidth that's available to PCI Express gen3 a few other things that I noted though one was that when they finally said yes we have a rise in nine family we're going beyond eight cores and 16 threads on the mainstream platform Lisa brought outs phase into chip or basically a substrate with the chips on it and yes we are confirmed that we have two Xen two chip le'ts on it so the blank space that we sort of pointed out I can see us with like hey why they design it like that it seems like maybe they're thinking about putting two of those on there yes that is confirmed that is what they did so we were right and we were very smart pat on the back also a sue stopped by to say hi and just to give a little bit of a further preview of their X 570 boards they showed an X 570 Pro and said that they have 30 more designs that Asus is working on for this platform of course there's gonna be motherboards from gigabyte and MSI and I'm sure a lot of those are going to be shown it this week at Computex there is some more information that has been floating around though specifically gamers Nexus if you didn't already see it in the recent Harbor news video has said that they have confirmed with their sources in the industry that yes there will be 16 core rise in 3000 series CPUs AMD hasn't confirmed anything beyond that 12 core that they just announced but hopefully we will see 16 core versions as well and they said that when overclocked they're pushing 300 watts when it comes to power draw which is a lot but that's overclocked numbers so just some info I think from some of the vendor partners who have been testing with early samples of the chips also the X 570 chipsets apparently has 11 watt TDP which is a bit more and that's because of the PCI Express Gen 4 integration and that is why a lot of the new motherboards have actual fans on the chipset heat sinks which I don't really like usually but hopefully the fans are using it better than the fans I used back in the mid-2000s back when they had to put chipset heat sinks on and they would get loud and noisy and I hated them but anyway we also have PCI Express laying conformation there's still going to be 16 on the CPU for direct PCI Express Lane connection and then there will still be the four dedicated for an extra m2 slot I'm guessing that also means they're gonna have four more going over to the chipset for a multiplexing across there for the peripheral controller hub and everything and then Steve also shared some dates which I was able to then cross compare and confirm or deny based on what AMD said at this event June 10th is the first upcoming date and that's when they're supposed to have an announcement at e3 Steve said it was a rise in 3000 series desktop announcement but I feel like that's what they just did so maybe this is going to be navi because at the event they actually said June 10th we're gonna have some more information on Navi and in fact they are going to have a live stream on June 10th at 3 p.m. Pacific time so I would say follow AMD on Twitter if you maybe you want to find out more info on that event when they make it available July first though is when risin 3000 series as well as X 570 motherboards will be up for pre-order which you shouldn't do you should always wait for independent reviews but I suppose you there's some people are gonna pre-order anyway but then July 7th 7 7 4 7 nanometre which makes total sense and has also been predicted for quite some time is when performance reviews will go up as well as when actual rise in 3rd gen products will ship so if you pre-ordered they probably ship right away maybe they arrived to you on July 7th maybe you can just go into the store and buy them on that day so that'll be that'll be nice everyone should do that when it comes to Navi though and the GPU side of things and the Radeon side of things I mentioned that I was a little bit disappointed with the information that they came out with apart from the announcement of that livestream on June 10th they did confirm that yes na'vi is based on seven nanometer we already knew that they're calling this new architecture our DNA or radeon DNA so it is not GCN it is a new architecture that they have built from the ground up with a similar approach to their Xen CPU design philosophy they said they focused on efficiency and increasing IPC performance on the GPU side they've also streamlined the graphics engine and they have some architectural improvements versus Vega that they listed that we're a bit vague because their internal AMD numbers versus Vega but 1.25 X performance per clock efficiency improvements and then a 1.5 X performance per watt improvement but I'm not a hundred percent sure how they got those numbers so again they're just sort of some marketing information for now it in confirmed that na'vi will use PCI Express Gen 4 and then Navi products will be part of the Radeon rx 5000 series family which is 5000 because of AMD's 50th birthday and not because they wanted to jump a few generations ahead of the naming scheme that Nvidia is currently using for their RT X 2000 series right that's not at all why they would have done that but Lisa did actually show an avi die she held it up she actually mentioned specifically that it looks small I noticed that there's no HP m or high bandwidth memory on there which was kind of expected as well because that didn't work out very well for them for Vega but my question since I mentioned it's small is is there going to be a bigger version of Navi maybe that's possible and then they show an avi gaming demo using strange Brigade and showing that their Navi chip which is an Rx 5000 series I'm guessing it was an Rx 5700 like they used in that last demo but they're getting one hundred two hundred and ten frames per second with the rx 5000 series GPU versus an RT X 2070 which is getting 90 to 100 frames per second that is about 10% faster for the Navi GPU but I do want to point out that strange Brigade is known as being a very AMD friendly title or a very Radeon friendly title when it comes to game performance so again take that with a grain of salt but guys that is all the information I have to share with you for right now I hope you've enjoyed this video just trying to boil down that hour and a half long keynote to something that's a bit more palatable for you guys if the thumbs up button if you enjoyed it and stay tuned because I will be doing some more Computex videos this week not as many videos as I do when I'm actually at Computex but I'll just try to pick and choose the things I think are most interesting and share that information with you thanks again for watching and we'll see you next time