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right in those start talking about things that we meant to talk about announcements we have announcements yes we do Kyle Kyle put his announcement before mine so we'll talk about Kyle's first only because it's more important okay but my announcement for today is that I'm now selling two new designs in the awesomesauce merch store you can go check them out I've actually put some limited time one-liners on the backs of various torso chasis that I'm selling now again that's awesome sauce network.com slash store this is a one-time deal so once these shirts sell out I will not be reprinting the one liners on the back of the shirts at least not that these avoid my warranty ones yeah so if you click on if you click on the boy to my warranty one in the middle and then you can see like open up one of the graphic ones yeah that's fancy paint it's super adorable has special straights so check out megamouth store they will not be restocked so so buy one I am the meantime have no special shirts on my store however I do have special are you kidding kicker I was told by epic John today or yesterday that I now have up to 6 X on my site so I'm gonna double-check this right now and verify yes so in black and in the dark gray you can get all the way up to 6 X 4 you larger gentleman out there and of course all the way back down to small too if you're into that so that's cool does it does it go on infinitely is there like a 500 X I don't know I don't know how big it actually gets me and then one last announcement is that Zoolander 2 is coming in February 2016 1 and the only reason I popped this up is because this was like one of the first things that popped up on my feed this morning and I thought it was I really enjoyed the Zoolander movie so again I think it's hilarious that they're making another one and this is actually a Paris Fashion Week so there goes Ben Stiller and watch this dude trying to take a selfie like with him and Ben's stories like now I'm happy they're doing that I think those are good movies and I hope they make more good good and funny ones yeah absolutely thing anyway those are our announcements to start to show off and and now we're actually gonna get into tech news what's the name of our live show Kyle awesome hard work alright let's talk about some awesome hardware oh yeah I said what you did there yeah okay you did there so I'm gonna start with my first segment which is a GPU update this is the Titan X edition oh hello Google ad this is a 10x edition because it's Titan x is what a lot of people are talking about if you're talking about GPUs if you're not familiar with it Titan X was sort of informally announced slash launched at GDC last week by Jensen it seemed like it was kind of half planned but I know some some actual cards have gone out to some people I don't have one but I heard Jays getting one and lionesses getting one and actually the folks over at videocards dot-com have come out with some speculative specs that works right as well as some benchmarks so if you're looking at this chart over on the left side yeah benchmarks the cards are going out people have people have had the card via the cards are writing so I'm over on the left side is the Titan X and they're comparing it to the Titan black and the Titan the TB see indicators there means there to be confirmed they're not really sure about those so as you can see most of it is still to be confirmed even if you have this card and you plug it in if you don't have saved the right version of gpu-z or a software that can actually recognize the hardware you're still not going to be able to find out what it actually is another good question about this is the benchmarks that have been coming out so far how are they actually doing them I have a feeling this has some like then some like driver hackery going on here it's typically the way in video will control people's ability to actually benchmark cards especially for a big launch that they want to keep secret is they won't release the driver so you without the driver the cards so so they've sent out cards to people yeah they haven't deal through the drivers I don't know I have no idea okay I know I know Linus had the card arrived he tweeted a picture of it Jay said he has one that's being sent but I don't I'm not sure as far as if drivers have been sent out usually they do like a WebEx or something like that to introduce the the reviewers to the card and the technology and that sort of thing but video cards supposedly has these benchmarks I'm showing you guys all the way up to four-way SLI with the GTX that works so some pretty impressive numbers one thing I wanted to point out here is that the r9 295x2 still seems to be beating out the Titan X granted you're talking about a single GPU versus dual but still nice today AMD can can be like at least of the fastest single GPU or the fastest graphics card just not the fastest GP using single GPU graphics card so this is three dimeric eleven extreme some just wow numbers and that one look at that scaling that's insane of course 3d mark is always pretty good scaling since it's made to benchmark graphics card this is 3d mark firestrike the graphics core again and they they're they apparently overclocked it as well so I'm okay there's some benchmarks for you guys again this is early it's video cards calm they deal on a lot of rumor and speculation but still pretty exciting at least to see what it can do and for anyone out there who's thinking or saying or anything like that I guess you can only think words or say them what else can you do it pondered them if you're thinking that how this is all stupid because it's you know it's gonna be at least a thousand dollars oh that's another thing from the article by the way is that they're saying it's probably gonna be a thousand dollars who knows again that's totally speculation but if you're thinking oh it's gonna be a thousand bucks and who cares like it's it's the high-end stuff like you know most people can't afford it consider it if we will that the yields on GPUs of this size since they're larger are much smaller and when the yields for GPU like the dies that they're trying to cut for the Titan X are low and and I had a chart on this but I didn't pull it up for today but it's like in the end of 50 to 60 percent range so you end up with a lot of GPUs that you can't use but it might just be a part of that GPU that you can't use so what they did with the original Titan was they took all those dies that weren't usable they disabled enough elements of it to make kind of a standardized lower version to version of it and that's what became the GTX 780 No so I think if history is any indicator at this point you're gonna see the Titan X come out you'll see it be in the market for a certain period of time that's largely going to be based on how well it's selling and whether they feel like they need a competitor and what the tune the 390 and 390x do when they come out and then somewhere in long lines in the future we're gonna see another card now the thing is they've already used 980 so I don't know what they'll call it they have to call it like a nine eighty five they couldn't call it nine ninety because that should be the dual GPU one that's usually what they say for that or maybe they'll make a 1080 and they'll do like another overlap where we have both 900 series and ten hundred series at the same time who knows but um there's trickle down here so so that's kind of what gets me more excited yeah and these numbers again taking with a grain of salt who knows how accurate they are bosom is the 12 gigabyte frame buffer also rumor or was like okay goodbye 12 gigabyte frame buffer is one of the things that is confirmed yeah and it's cool to hear that although and then that could be another thing that they are using to define the highest end card the Titan X if you have 12v other you know technics yeah chip Hill also has some benchmarks so here's benchmark CGG try comparing the two websites to see if their benchmarks kind of know matched it'll know I was curious it's the set that would have been that would have been the hallmark of some like good some good research some actually looking up information we at we we ran out of time today we do yeah the day flew by my zoom h1 appears to not be working great that was that was probably just died for this just for the string goodness anyway yeah hey you know what I've never did this I never tweeted that we're alive alright so chip Ellis awesome some benchmarks on those those so I'm taking a look at those if you guys want to check out the early benchmarks and then this is the DP report and I've been talking a lot about the Titan X I thought I might as well also throw some AMD stuff in there okay we like AMD as well so AMD r9 390x again we've been talking about it or trying to at least mention it every week even though there's not a whole lot to say now there was a GDC demo that was powered by the r9 390x so that's pretty cool you can see it's in this case right here which is like I don't know what case that is but like it's like my way they wouldn't they wouldn't let him open the side panel they wouldn't let him run any software to like see what's like you know the specs on it like GPZ or something like that right so again not a whole lot to say about it but they are there they do exist and the latest news that we have for the 300 series 390 390x from AMD is that we're expecting to probably see them at Computex yes cool and and so end its the GPU report eventually we'll have sound effects that play at this point in from now we just have me maybe like some epics you know animation graphics cards that come in and episode face or something like that very exciting cards like alright so that's the end of my first segments at this point we'll take a quick break to recognize our sponsor us yeah Kyle and I both sponsor this show it's powered by us you should buy us products to support us yes I just made that up right now but I agree with Paul who knows maybe maybe one day we'll have sponsors and be fun if we do have sponsors we'll make sure that they're good sponsors and that they're entertaining at least they let us do stuff that's kind of entertaining yeah right let's move into my next segment which I kind of want to tear through like as quickly as possible okay it's not as one of those less happy segments all right this segment is called Internet watchdogs because it's somewhat happy alright let's talk about some news some good news Internet one big bit of good news which is that that we have title to classification now for Internet service providers not just internet service providers but also wireless providers which was a something that a lot of people didn't really see coming but yeah well you know I should do is I should retweet you retweet it so that news came out in the past couple weeks there was a lot of people who were very happy about it myself included because none of us wants to see the Internet dominated by large companies who can say who gets a good traffic and who gets bad traffic or who gets good internet speeds and who gets bad internet speeds and that that was good news however that the the war is not over and there's still stuff to be on lookout for so it seems like we have won a victory at this point um but I wanted to quickly go over this article from the technology the MIT Technology Review discussing five loopholes that could undermine net neutrality because the FCC has classified these services as title two but there are still question marks and there's also still a big concern people out how they might actually go about enforcing these things so this is a long text-based article so there you go there's not a whole lot for you guys to look at this being a video thing so I'm gonna sort of leave it right there and switch back over to s and I will sort of give you a rough breakdown of what these five loopholes are that the folks over a technology review are talking about the first one relates actually to throttling now throttling obviously is a big concern and that's the reason why internet is now a title to is to say all data is equal and you can't say this data is good in that day that's bad you get good data service and you can't the question is will this these anti throttling policies apply to specific applications such a specific application would be something like Netflix or Hulu or YouTube or are they can apply broadly to whole categories the opinion of the writer here is that they should apply it broadly to all categories however that is language that in the current definition is not clearly defined sorry that's something that could go either way and again possibly be used as a loophole so that's something to look out for and assume a lot of these are just suggestions for how they might clarify things a little bit better so that the companies that might seek to benefit from potential loopholes can't actually do that the next thing on the list is the zero rating now zero rating is something along the lines of let's say verizon owns a media streaming service like an audio and you know a music service or something like that which I'm sure they do but I don't know what the title of it is they own that and then they also own your internet connection but they say you have a cap of to learn that the gigabytes per month or something like that however if you sign up for arched our music streaming service and you streaming our music from our service it doesn't count nicely against your cap and the companies could potentially use that in order to provide in order to make their services seem more appealing than otherwise why would you then sign up for another music streaming service if you're concerned about your cap and you can get free quote unquote data or at least bandwidth otherwise okay zero reading terms are not set in stone they need to be clarified and again there's some potential there for companies to take advantage of it yeah the next one is network management because what is P's do or not not just the last mile ISPs but also the Internet backbone companies is they they control network they control the data that close over the network and they do this in order to as in order to provide you a good service depending on what time of day it is and where that all the traffic's going you know if Ellen is at the Oscars and she tweets a picture of you know a bunch of celebrities and suddenly it goes viral then you might have a certain part of the internet that is suddenly getting hit much harder than others as a result these companies actually do need to manage the internet traffic to some degree they need to say okay at this point we need a wider pipe for this data here and you know we can slow down this data here the question that still remains is can these companies use this excuse of managing network traffic to actually continue throttling that is something that's possible is something that's not set in stone and again that's something that could potentially be abused there's another thing called interconnection so an interconnection is basically the handing off the you know the data the the pixels that the camera is grabbing right here and encoding by the computer and set over to twitch and then sent back to you it goes through many different pipes along the internet and it goes through many different nodes along the internet and all that traffic is routed different ways so there's interconnection there and there's handoff between you know a company that owned the survey and a company the own server B for example these interconnection rules are again something they need clarification and then of course on top of all this stuff there is the fact that you have actual need for traffic monitoring and enforcement and this is something that the FCC also has that really established how they're going to monitor how they're going to enforce these rules now this is a fairly dry topic so I'm gonna kind of leave it at that but this is these are just some of these issues that I wanted to bring up again the link is going to be in the reupload on this video so you guys can check it out and kind of look over this I just wanted to say that we should not necessarily let our guard down we need to kind of keep keep this at the forefront of our minds if the Internet is something that you want to keep safe and you want to keep open and you want to keep the ability for anyone to jump on and start using and not have to deal with a big company kind of kind of holding their foot against the door then keep keeping people in ok one other one other story in this internet watchdog segment they'll move on to something more fun I promise sword fight is next ok stay tuned all right so this is an article from ARS technica and this one is about the Internet Freedom Act and this this is hilarious so um I first picked up on this one because I watched the tech on tech syndicate last week and Logan and Wendell were we're kind of ranting about this for a while Logan did it greats Tennessee accents for talking about US representative Marshall Blackburn's name basically there's like we don't talk a lot about politics but there's a lot of Republicans behind this bill that's just what the story says the Internet Freedom Act is basically the opposite of the Internet freedom it's more like the Internet's non Freedom Act it's basically taking all of the new net net neutrality rules that occur by by title to classification and taking away all of the FCC's ability to enforce it like in in a nutshell so goes back to the article that talked about just a few moments ago which was Howard's the FCC going to enforce things this like right from the get-go would would just take away all of their their actual power to do anything so it's it's bad I'm gonna sit understand that's bad yeah if you hear anyone talking about the internet Freedom Act I'll tell them it's bad call your representative and tell them if you hear them that they're voting for it or they're backing the Internet Freedom Act that they're stupid the other thing that this article lists very clearly is all of the money that Blackburn herself has received from att's PAC or political action committee $20,000 from Comcast's $20,000 from a cable industry association PAC $15,000 from Verizon so this is all just into her personal pocket or link to the campaign it's to her campaign but how do you how do you how do you pay your bill campaign money yeah yeah that's how you get reelected and that's how you keep making more campaign money right so yeah Internet Freedom Act is bad it's not really Internet freedom the opposite of Internet freedom and that's we should all we should all hate it okay right moving scary moving it along okay yeah all right I have I have more fun things to talk about for the rest of the show I promise next segment to swordfight yeah yeah the ongoing segments and what I like to say at the beginning of every sword fight is that people keep asking me for more sword fights that has happened a couple times I swear but really but what about really but what about people who watch the stream have they been asking food I see I see what you did there oh it's warm in here Kyle it's very warming I am like sweating and it's making me sleepy I'm like about to pass that what do you think we should do should we open the window I think I think you should turn on the air-conditioner okay and will will will gauge people's response I have a feeling we're gonna turn be turning it off with that we might 10-second all right we'll see we're gonna try the a/c because frickin warm in here we have like five computers on and my glasses are gonna just keep sliding off of my face and if it's alright there's the AC of glory I can already tell it's movement today hi guys AC has just been turned on so please please let us know if it's unbearable it's bearable for you guys because it's unbearable for us it's writing about us it's just yes it's nice it's nice yeah nice ambient noise that's right it'll put you to sleep not too bad alright now I'm really gonna fall asleep yeah it's supposed to be 90 this weekend in Southern California you know you know spring sticky that's 90 that's 90 degrees Fahrenheit okay let's move on what did I just say I just said we're gonna do do some sword-fighting sword fighting next sorry I got to get this drought polling crazy so for those of you newcomers just joining a sword fight is basically possible in a Paul segment square he picks a topic and then him and I go at it with our swords our swords of wisdom where we debate on either pro or con we take one side of the argument and we we basically just just try to try to slam each other that's the idea yes it's an argument it's a pro and con and we don't necessarily always agree with the side that we're taking but we at least yes try to play devil's advocate as much as best we can makes an interest right so I just linked a straw poll so you guys might already be reading what we're about to talk about but here's a here's an article from also from the MIT Technology Review good website by the way we about how Nvidia plans to be the Netflix of gaming hmm now Anthony has a lot of a lot of things going on not just graphics cards and NVIDIA actually seems to have a plan moving forward for how they can get around being a graphics card manufacturer because if you look five 10 20 years down the line as things keep getting smaller the potential to have the need for discreet graphics card may or may not not go away who knows but there's a lot of people say that say yes as the integrated graphics on a chip continue to get more impressive or you know be able to do what you what you ask of it then when a discrete graphics art might not do evening so grid seems to be in videos response to that and it seems to be invidious goal of kind of future proofing themselves against this potential drop-off in the market of their kind of bread-and-butter product that they create so right grid is a streaming service and the simplification and article is think of grid as Netflix for gaming so Netflix is one of those startups which probably couldn't have happened without net neutrality entitled to but um net Netflix is you guys all know what Netflix is I don't need to explain it a lot of you probably use it I use Netflix I think it's fantastic yep it's a it's a monthly fee you get access to a large library of movies the streaming service is generally good unless you use a internet service provider who's stupid but again then a showers just hopefully solve that but back to the question at hand which is do you think that you will use a game streaming service like grid do you think you will do you see it as an inevitability or do you see it as something that will be another option for gaming in the future and then if it is going to be going that patent on that path then how long do you think it will be until that actually happens and we have a crossover to where I don't need a gaming PC anymore all I need is a client all I need is a thin client on my desktop and a faster internet connection I can play all the games I want so we have four options for you guys here never yes as soon as possible five years of 10 years so go ahead and link us or wait wrong buttons oops God and let us know what you think and we'll come back to these results in just a few moments so which side of this debate do you want to take so so let me just be just for clarification purposes are is the side that we're taking are we debating on whether or not this this is something that we would partake in or whether or not this is just the natural trend that things are going and and that we can expect to see this in the future is it more of a preference thing I think I think we're going to see it that's already been established okay the question for you is as you clean yes I want it I want grid service right or are you more of like no I don't want and we're not just talking about grid I'm talking about video game streaming services in general okay the heavy lifting for the GPU and the pixel crunching is done by another server somewhere else right and they stream you that video there are pros and cons to that latency is the biggest issue and 150 milliseconds right now is what NVIDIA has paired this down to 150 milliseconds between you pressing a button on a controller right tied into grid yeah and it's having an effect on the pixels on the screen yeah that's I feel like I feel like that's too much lag to my all right so you go anti grid I'll go anti great right I don't think am I gonna go first yes okay I I think that we are not at the point yet with streaming capabilities to facilitate an HD high quality gaming experience I feel like if we try to go into it now and I think the early adopters will be disappointed in some respects seeing is how like we have such glamorous visuals right now on our desktop PCs when when playing games locally and on the show sure but I think doing something like a stream right now carrying all that information all that data especially with a millisecond lag I think you know some casual gamers might not notice it so much but I think those of us that play regularly especially on PC and stuff like that will definitely I feel like it takes a backseat as far as the gaming experience if you're used to a desktop experience and used to that responsiveness then right now it's gonna be too much I can see console gamers enjoying it a bit more than PC gamers and I don't know how how good the graphics would be either like how you know what kind of bitrate are we looking at I mean I just tried messing around with the doko the the NZXT doko not too long oh yeah and you know it's a PC streaming device it's not a mini PC but actually it's just a device that carries a signal from your PC and outputs it to your TV and I think that was 60 milliseconds of lag and I still noticed it like you know I would jump I hit my jetpack and evolve in like a split second later it would go and it just threw me out of the game so for looking at what is a 140 hundred 60 milliseconds of lag I mean it's not faring well for me right now I'm not convinced okay so anyway and you bring a the the the example you use is one that's very commonly used for this type of when people discuss this type of service is the FPS experience is one that people go to immediately fps or twitch gaming anything that requires fast response time is going to definitely suffer and if you're talking about competitive gameplay anything that that reduces your ability for that yes I would agree with you I'm arguing your side here let's go back and argue my side which is you're totally wrong stupid because grid is going to take the world by storm now you okay here's here's the here's what makes me think grid as a high potential for success well and it's not necessarily because of the limitations with technology that we have right now it's more so because of the success actually of some of the services that have come before it that have taken an established medium such as will say film that Netflix has done and used the availability of technology in the Internet to deliver it to consumers in a different way and it's in a different way that for people was enough that it really like that's why there's no more blockbuster videos anymore that's why you know the rental market has gone down the crapper that's you know there's there's lots of effects that it's had but I could see a service like great having a similar impact on this market but I think the the area of the market that it's gonna take the longest to affect is going to be people like you and me and other people who build their own systems do a lot of gaming and especially if you do competitive online gaming that's fast in reaction base that's what's going to take the longest to get to but grid doesn't care about that grids going to be successful for so long before that and they're going to be successful by people who are playing puzzle games by people are playing turn turn-based games by people who are playing simpler games things that don't matter basically by people who are playing simpler games that might be graphically intensive but aren't necessarily that don't necessarily well if not even this very competitive but but don't require that fast reaction time I think there's a huge market for those types of games and I think that's where this is going to make inroads and then if you have that tied in with something like the shield console a 200-dollar console with 4k support that already raised ranks has no I want to say run circles but as a potential to run circles around existing next-gen consoles I think that's where you I see a lot of potential adoption and where I see this being a success and I will say for NVIDIA if they get this off the ground and they get a sort of a base of subscribers that's Nvidia set for a while a a service with the subscribership like an a monthly fee is that's like that's the holy grail for so many companies you have to have to have something like that so let's see what you guys thought about this one them and I I think I was right results need to like show you guys the screen so you can see haha so shady internet so you wrote shady Internet service I try to put some hips and character into the questions and answer those maybe Nvidia swindlers some shady internet search I don't know well they goes along with the idea that any cloud-based service is like you don't trust it it's invisible you're in the cloud in the internet and you don't have it yeah all right so most of you 54% said never and I'm I'm not necessarily gonna disagree with you there you know and I will say the experience at least right now yeah on a desktop or something like that compared to streaming services night and day loading off loading the game up for your on SSD playing lag free and then apart from that we had the the the majority of you who disagree but never were saying about five years or so till it's actually gonna mature and I think I was about to I think that's reasonable hopefully we'll see Internet bandwidth open up the internet to actual connection and ping times maybe even come down with new technology and all that sort of thing all right cool good good search fight all right we have one we have certified ground to this one I'm actually going to totally rip off a Linus tech tips video oh I totally got permission from getting flagged all right so uh if you guys caught this video this is uh this is for clever I haven't even seen this well you ever seen this one alright so live Luke Luke went to PAX East and he went to the club booth and this is actually the part of the video I wanted to show you guys so micron has crucial microns a memory manufacturer they make crucial samsung makes him I mean all these memories manufactures memory manufacture for lots of people like Kingston for example Kingston doesn't manufacture their own modules yeah that they buy the modules and and that sort of thing so right SK Hynix is one of the big ones they've been around for for quite a while but you don't hear about them as much because they don't have quite as much of a retail space or retail presence SK Hynix is now introduced Club which is an interesting name but they have these new modules and and and Luke was taking a look at them some pretty cool designs actually interesting I mean I'm not a huge fan of the like the really tall where every or anything like that but when they're actually installed like this kit that looks pretty cool right I kind of like the the those elements on the other yes I have a few data they have an entry-level SKU they have a mid tier one and then a higher tier one that has LEDs for ddr3 and then they have I think they have two ddr4 and maybe just one ddr4 line as well but some pretty cool looking and then a different kind of design than some of the things we've seen now all this being said the question that it definitely comes to mind at this point and I actually got to get the straw poll here to link for you guys so you can also let me know what you think as we is a very important question answer this question which is do you guys think Luke likes me that's the that's the straw poll quest straw poll that's the straw poll cuz you know I've hung out with Luke before he's a cool guy and I think I think maybe like I don't know like when we were we were in Colorado right we were hanging out and one point he just he looked over at me and is like just kind of nodded you know and I was like I think Luke's down you know I think Luke that might have been the altitude sickness just like this is like nodding you like I'm gonna throw up was that the altitude it might have been I mean he Luke's Luke's been giving me some mixed signals here and there - okay I've noticed I think Luke likes me alright well said the I just one time so let's do this if we're gonna we gotta do the surf right this is a certified signal so you can argue that Luke likes you and I will argue that Luke likes me that your argument won't go along with the questions wait sir sir are you saying that we're having we're about to have a sword fight with Luke in the middle that's yeah that was the plan okay Luke just bright in between ours okay so it's okay alright just one time I think we were at CES this is maybe two years ago and Luke looked at me across across the room and I just remember him like holding like like a GPU but he was like stroking the video card yeah and he was like saying something like I I could really use some big hardware right now and I was like but he already has a video card in his hands but he just kept looking at me like like like a hundred yards like losing a hundred yards that's the nut he was an idiot was Linus that sounds more like Linus actually it wasn't you know you might be confused but so it's all yeah I see I I will say that I think Luke is like he like me but he doesn't like me like me because we were in a WebEx for an video graphics card launched last year that's like a little video chat right your honor yeah yeah we were it was a video chat but we were like listening to like VTR was giving a rundown I don't know the 780ti or something like that one was coming out and and he was in Chad and I was in chat and I was like hey Luke what's up it was like hey how's it going and I just I thought we had a moment there let's see what you guys think was the moment I think people just like the way that one's phrased I I had I had a brainwave with that so Luke he is truly an enigma and we'll never truly know what goes on behind his steely gaze and windswept golden locks it's now his mysteriousness that always attracted me to him okay thank you guys for responding to the poll and dealing with my silly and in my defense I actually had two options for the second straw poll there was the second the second swordfight yeah one of them was a little bit more serious but I don't know I think we chose the right okay well done that is the end of section 3 right one more to go third segment all right we have one more quarter left in my show and we're gonna move on to some news now I'll be talking about some news and should I have like five wait how many is that know that maybe that's like four I think it's more things to talk about in news and they're the kind of smaller stories okay I kind of run through them fairly quickly sure um I hope maybe possibly the first ones from WD great buttons yes okay persons from WD a very exciting if you're like a surfer guy or you do data centers WD has introduced the world's most power efficient high-capacity data center HDD how power efficient is it ball and don't know more power efficient there's no are there any actual numbers here we have a double right so is the re plus which is there there it's the raid addition plus that's what Ari stands for it's six terabytes and it consumes six watts no that's one watch per terabyte that's pretty good that's really good how much does a regular hard drive it's like fifteen um I forget what I feel like most mechanical drives are gonna be in the five watt range okay time to ten watt range but this is probably more looking at like watts per terabyte or something like that of course it's got all the rain Edition protections and stuffs that you might expect five and six terabyte capacities say to six gigabit per second 57 60 rpms that's interesting 1.2 million MTBF and 120 ma 128 megabytes cash I wonder I wonder if the slower p.m. has anything to do with the low wattage yeah oh yeah definitely yeah yeah I mean they're going they're going for powered power usage over performance here for sure and the only thing that the only thing I don't like about this is they have a yellow on the label and I'm not against yellow but WD uses like color coding for all my drives and I feel like people are gonna start calling this the WD yellow that doesn't that doesn't doesn't my with me is what pop rate the rate additions have always had black labels and they have been like you know like the WD black series which is like the highest end of the consumer drives and I don't know yellow it doesn't seem bold and you know it's not like not attractive to it no like yeah freaking check this out it's yellow I've never said that to anyone like tons of times I've been like look at look at it's black or like look yeah it's blue I've never been like check out this yellow thing like a like a yellow sports car you're like in plaintiff Vice City okay last week I talked about freak and week in my in my oh joy segments what does freak stand for again uh I don't know it is an acronym though it's a secure SSL and TLS security hole and it has an acronym which I it's not written down in circle I read it off last time but I didn't memorize it anyway um we're talking about freak last week and I didn't give you guys any solutions for it other than don't order anything online this article on ZDNet is actually providing some potential ways around it or ways to avoid this now the main operating systems Oh they've also discovered that it affects more devices than originally thought so you know that's usually the way this goes right okay so it's not only programs that use Apple's SSL implementation or open SSL its present in Microsoft secure channel stack - that's not good all right so any program that used Microsoft's SSL TLS such as Internet Explorer another reason to like did you need another reason to remove that excel or Windows Vista 7 8 and 8.1 as well as Server 2003 they're not mentioning Windows XP because it's end-of-life but if you're on your XP if you're an expert in your vulnerable to a bunch of stuff you get rid of XP and update Windows Server 2008 in 2012 should be ok if they're configured as servers but if they're configured as desktops they might not be and then in addition there's a there's libraries that are listed here again this article will be linked it so links in the description so you guys can check that out if you have an older version of Chrome you're also my before chrome version 41 in chrome auto updates so most of you guys are probably ok unless you've turned off the auto update function but update your chrome if you're on Internet explorer you need to wait for a patch switch to firefox or chrome 41 disable RSA keys Safari is vulnerable don't use Safari Android Browser is vulnerable switch to Chrome 41 if your Android Blackberry browser is vulnerable don't use blackberry opera on Mac and Android is vulnerable so update to opera 28 or switch to Chrome 41 or don't know a Mac or don't use a Mac they also I mean there's a lot of details in this guy's so if you if you're concerned about this I definitely recommend checking this article out there's also so Microsoft has publicly stated right now that they're working on a fix for this if you are a security concerned person Steve I'm looking at you the article has actually listed you can go in the end of the group policy object editor and you can update this new cipher list and that will basically tell it not to use the bad ciphers and then that's a way you can sort of manually go in and patch something if you're looking for a sort of an interim solution so um I don't know how many of you guys are freaked out by the Freak thing last week I didn't mean to do that it just happens but there are at least some some workarounds right now and hopefully not no one has has been too hard hit by this one all right pretty freaky here's a quick story from Maximum PC this is Windows 10 build that 1031 no build one zero zero three one this is all the way from Russia and this is just a transparent Start menu now I'm just gonna go ahead and say that I called this when Windows 8 launched and everyone was complaining about the Metro UI and my thought at the time was like you know if they took Metro like the whole Start menu and they just had an option to either make it fullscreen or make it appear in a window and make it see-through - that'd be cool but this is something that a lot of people were interested in after the tech preview came out in October and it's now been seen out in the wild here's a screenshot of it or it didn't happen and also there is no trace of project Spartan an upcoming browser confirmed as Internet Explorer's replacement in this build so that's kind of interesting - I there keeping that one under wraps for now weird and early Windows 10 builds I still haven't I still have an installed Windows 10 I should do that at some point I think I want to do Linux first though really I've only know a little bit of like dabbling with Linux for Linux in the past and I've been thinking about like dropping Windows 10 onto something but I'm like you know what I want to drop Linux on this on things start playing around with that because I haven't played with any any recent distros it's been like a couple years since I actually Dobin and did much with Linux and even then it wasn't it was really really lightweight I will check out the tech syndicate Linux channel there you go or I'll talk to booth and I'll and I'll look up Windows 10 because that sounds way easier okay and can we use Windows 10 alright one last news story before we jump over to kal segment do any of you guys use the torrents you do do you use uTorrent yes I do actually you downloaded a recent version of it no mine's really old okay good don't okay well recent version I never took it for any recent versions of utorrent have silently been been installing a bundled Bitcoin mining tool whoo but that sounds fun I want one except it doesn't mind the bitcoins for you oh not fun it uses your computer's idle time to mine bitcoins in the background for other people Wow yeah so will you see like a little bit of your CPU usage but I said that people said that yes in a bit it impacts their CPU but I mean the main point here is that it doesn't prompt you and it was done without you know yeah it's totally it's not one of those right along like oh I better uncheck that box er I'm gonna get McAfee installed again or something like that it it's it's just installs without telling you so I'm if you use uTorrent definitely check this out the software is called epic scale it's a Bitcoin miner which uses your unused processing power to change the world for a few people who wrote the program and wants to buy gold-plated iPhone I I I want that No damn it I was trying to get through this whole side of the episode without mentioning that anyway so you watch out for that I guess either use an older version or you can go and uninstall it oh yeah so BitTorrent said that you're free to delete the folder with the software in it and you certainly won't see any persistent auto reinstalls it'll be gone from your machine for good the problem with the statement is it users report that it's not true it does not uninstall completely using a dream or by deleting the application folder well so that sucks then I don't know how you actually maybe you need to use one of those application uninstaller yeah things which I never trusted cuz I always wonder like how will I uninstalled that application and it's darling because I bet it knows some tricks for how to keep me from uninstalling it I would assume so as my concern anyway though that's all for a side a or the first half of awesome hardware for dude a thanks so much for watching this if you're watching the re-upload on my youtube channel you can click the link at the end of here to head over and watch Kyle side or side B of Awesome hardware and if you're live then just stick with us for just a moment and we shall be starting up once again it's gonna be like the same show we're gonna talk about all the same stuff no we talked about different stuff on Kyle's 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