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I don't want to know how those are benchmarked no uh screams this doesn't taste like candy I've lost track of everything that's going on Cheers that's what I want to say cheers Julie guys welcome to the show thanks for joining us we didn't do a beer trick here in the first half of the show but I'm drinking this ballast point to piper down which was wreckin recommended to me at BevMo and it's quite good so far Scottish ale I've got some Fat Tire always a good choice solid drinking beer how's drink at that tank Josh is wreaking a roofie cocktail that I guess so earlier I've completely closed the tab that had my all my notes for the show in it let's just wing this let's do this friggin if there's gonna be a fair amount of winging this stuff happened this week and guess what we don't give up but news the lower thirds there should indicate that we're gonna talk about some tech news here so let's do that so it's good when the hosts have to refer to what's on screen right now okay yeah that's well no that's that's charming it's true oh hey cheers Paul in chat I'm a propel a bombs also known as living John cake welcome welcome I'm jealous of your wife you must need some delicious food that you cook for her I see I had to finish that sentence I was just dropping a bomb on the ball okay um Andy Andy made an announcement this week er was that today I think it was today which is still this week so we're good yeah it's still this week GPU open is aim these answer answer to in videos game works so there it is indicated by this little icon here what's not very open by the famous Gordon hung on PC world and basically what this is is kind of the answer or a sponsor an alternative to videos game works and videos game works is I feel like in videos game works there's there's kind of two sides to the story one is the side that in video would say was is like we do game works and we work with game developers to make sure that the games when they launched or polished and you know everything works right now that kind of stuff at the same time some people have accused in video game works of being more exclusive and not perhaps working with the other side AMD so that you know sometimes you have walled off features where like you can only access this if you have a Nvidia card or something like that yeah so GPL weapons gonna be working fair on both both teams it's supposed to be more open so that's usually the response that him that AMD has for Nvidia when NVIDIA has closed standards like CUDA or something like that AMD comes and says like oh we work with open CL and it's open and you know anyone can join in there and you don't have to pay licensing fees with that sort of things so from the principle of that I stand behind them right and II of course has dealt with some some difficulties lately when it comes to their market share with GPUs and all that kind of stuff so they've definitely have some an uphill battle when it comes to adoption and stuff but Andy's also an established company they you know they have the PlayStation 4 and Xbox one they work with game developers and that's this is this is not something that's like brand new brand new I think this is something that they're kind of renaming and relaunching I think to some degree I think the name GPU open is also like they're rubbing it in video space a little definitely yeah definitely I think this is this is a mindset that's gone back for quite some time my back when in between being a system integrator and doing what I do now I did Hardware reviews as folks say a lot at the time on like 3d software and 3d applications and you know obviously Nvidia had their 3d vision which was very I guess proprietary right it was you know their glasses select monitors you know yeah they're the drivers all that sort of stuff certain games and then AMD had there was AMD HD 3d which is more of an open sort of platform I could work with with different things it didn't have so many restrictions on and I remember was on conference call to media I went to they're more closed proprietary which they didn't like that terminology they see it as more of like you dimension a quality-control thing like you know we know what pieces go into this we can control the experience that comes out of it whereas ambi had kind of gone into more of a look at adoption fazer I like more players more options more different ways to do it so yeah I see that that's it's been that way for a while and in videos like that has nothing to do with money is just about the QA and the quality we think about that you're winning yeah and I mean if you want to if I'll take in video sign just for the sake of argument here and if you look at stuff like their development of g-sync which is a closed standard it's in video exclusive and you have to have a g-sync monitor and Nvidia graphics card but they were able to bring the variable refresh rate technology your dog is tweeting my dog your dog has tweeted that we're all wearing pants everyone go checked everyone go follow at nori hardware on Twitter not yet on Instagram but soon she'll have an Instagram account very soon we're told she's live editing the show as we speak the correction or we were wearing pants yeah that doors closed for a reason she's been wrong before mm-hmm I forget what it was that Segway scene was the victus seamless uh yeah Nvidia was able to launch g-sync far before a pretty significant period of time before AMD was able looking out with competing the hardware and the g-sync experience is a good one so there's that granny give some pay more money for it well it might be a little bit chicken v egg right like a bit you know inviso got there somewhat closed version out does AMD really have a play to come in and do their closed version people like know if I'm gonna do that I'm just gonna go with in video whereas if you're kind of second to the market do you need to be more open and willing to work with people to keep that open so anyway I'm I'll kind of be keeping an eye on this of course this is gonna give developers unprecedented access to the guts of AMD GPUs and the direct access to the GPU is something that so you're going to scroll down in the article something that has it's apparently a level of access the developers have had in the past so that's the way this is subscribed here amy has similar bits and pieces in addition to packaging them up is going one step further and opening them up the inner workings of the register set of the GPU that enables developers to do neat tricks or get a performance boost and as a stark contrast to the way game development is traditionally done anyway so this is still pretty early again this is just an announcement they're not supposed to be kicking this out for launching until 2016 sometime but somebody keep up with all right indeed let's move on to the next story which is this guy again this guy something I wanted I we talked a few weeks ago about the wu-tang clan and yeah we talked about the wu-tang clan and their album that they that they came out with a Shaolin or what is it called could this album's wouldn't mind buying and shelling a perfect person go ahead yeah what's fun at Simon Shaolin is a wu-tang album that they made that nobody has had access to and instead of distributing it they decided to make one copy and sell one copy to the highest bidder and then that person would get access to the music they could not resell it they could play it for people but for 88 years it's basically locked down and no one else can can view it there was a Kickstarter that people try to funds to to buy it but that failed and then basically it was bought by this by this d-bag Martin shkreli really um she's buy a vowel um who this old just rolled the world with his purchase of exclusive wu-tang album now if you guys don't know who this guy is there bud he works he's a pharmaceutical guy he is fairly notorious even within the pharmaceutical industry which i think is quite an accomplishment ya know you're gonna try for that yeah but he for instance has been dubbed demoted most hated man in America by the BBC because he price gouged AIDS patients and kids with kidney disease he is a hedge fund manager turned comic-book villain and he took I think he he took that he bought the rights to that medicine and then they jacked up the prices seven eight thousand yeah it's not a ridiculous amount his excuses like oh we're doing that so that we can invest money in research or whatever but this guy Lauren farm douche like someone asked him to point at the biggest douche in the world right here my name is estimation is just a massive d-bag he does live streaming actually tuned into his live stream and I first pulled up the story cuz it was like hey he's like teasing that on his twitch livestream he might play the album but then I went there and like he does live streams and he talks about like stocks and all that kind of crap and he's not gonna do it he's just doing it yeah attention to himself you're just stupid I feel bad talking about him but my apologies to anyone and I remember when we when we brought the brought up the story of the shell and album last week before it had been purchased now we I remember was like okay the only person if they're not like a super nerd that's just like planning on sharing with everyone as soon as they get it then it's gonna be like some really rich prick and just wants it just show off at whatever parties he hosts and his fancy pants mansion and everything I said that week applies is this guy yeah it's like perfect it's exactly like it's already written in stone yes now whoo tang for their part has definitely expressed some mister some some second thoughts about how this all went down they did not don't know think of that they did not know who he was when they were going through the finalization of the deal and whatever that they had to do is to million dollar deal so you know I'm sure they don't farm they smoke weed yeah but they since then they've kind of been like actually this guy's a dick hole but there is a way out there is a release an album of them covering the first album I mean is that what that would skirt the contrary here's the thing here's here's a funny thing from the comical fidelity injury that exactly I really wanted to point this out this was tweeted earlier earlier this week forget the two million dollars this is the most interesting part of the whole deal between I think you've seen this part alright so although the buying party may release the album for free or play at listening parties during that time the buying party also agrees that at any time during the stipulated eighty eight year period the seller made legally plan and attempts the seller being mooting planning temperature to execute one heist or caper to steal back the once upon a time in shell an album which if successful would return all ownership rights to the seller said hyster caper could only be undertaken by currently active members of the wu-tang clan and/or actor bill Murphy with no legal repercussions hey Wu Tang and Bill Murray like we saw what happen in Caddyshack there's gonna be some explosions oh yeah I mean you saw what you did with the Gophers so this is already this is this was earlier this week and this has already expanded beyond this here's a billboard article someone has already written a script for the wu-tang clan slash Bill Murray heist movie you know the Gothic rat that's coming in this year yeah that's a dedicated wu-tang fan named Jordan van Deena has penned a script to try to make that happen his version of the story a successful heist is necessary to stop Donald Trump from becoming president Kim jong-eun Michael Jordan and Justin Bieber make appearances Morgan Freeman narrates the script should pop up here but I'm just here drinking some tea I would see that movie hell yeah wu-tang clan and Bill Murray infiltrate the mansion of some douche bag and steal the album back Morgan Freeman narrates Justin Bieber okay so just a favorite appears and is instantly killed painfully mmm the album's rectum exactly together with the chainsaw Justin you gotta fit the album your ass screams no surprise an album sideways or anyway anyway yep that's all I dig about Josie yes hey about this is a developing story we'll we'll bring you guys more information as as events warrant I suppose all right directed by Michael Bay okay or Justin Lin mmm more than that all right here's a text about article about host this week overclocking locked Intel skylake CPUs is now possible and has been tested that's right this was done this is actually the article I think as far as the pure next stuff that kind of grab my rock so even though it's even in asrock motherboard that they're showing here so as rock yes via BIOS update has enabled overclocking with non kaise CPUs so that means that even if you don't have a G 32:58 you can you can overclock other CPUs so here for instance is a CPU Z screenshot of an i3 6100 running at 4.7 nice now please make note of a very important distinction here between typical overclocking and the overclocking they're doing here this is uh this is base clock or B CLK overclocking so notice that the bus speed here is at one twenty seven seven four three point seven so you can't overclock as freely as an open it's really an openly as you could with just like a pure um whereas the multiplier is still at the standard three thirty locked case q processor and there are some funny things that might go on with BC okay overclocking as opposed to just pure multiplier overclocking however with skylake the BC LK is actually unlinked from from several of the other buses within the system so it doesn't affect as much it will affect your memory speed for example so your memory might run at a wonky speed and that can sometimes lead to instability depending on what type of memory you have depending on the IMC and your processor but upshot any any lock unlock any locked skylake processor as a vet for asrock as of this BIOS update can now be overclock using this method that includes all the way down to like the sixty sixty-five dollar Pentium G 4400 G 4500 G 45:20 the i3 6160 363 2060 460 500 and all the non case cube processors basically and the results they found from overclocking that core i3 I think we're pretty impressive yeah oh yes right I'm right on part even despite all the the wonkiness that you described earlier with like the memory clock speeds and stuff I think overall the performance gain you get is pretty much on par if you were to overclock the multiplier yes so if you look for example here the fourth bar down here is the 6100 at stock speeds giving you a result of 23.1 with sigh soft sandra versus a soft sigh soft ensued but at 4.7 gigahertz big surprise there is a massive leap putting it ahead of the 40 for 30 and the 6100 with even higher frequency memory or just running the memory faster at 3000 in Cinebench again the single thread speed is what you should be looking at here look at this the 60 with how much does the 6100 cost I don't know off the top of my head I'll look it up it's probably in the hundred and 20 to 140 range I'm guessing but single thread performance is beating the crap out of like an 83 2125 about 125 yeah and it's just it's very it's very nice it's something that I think a lot of people wish intel had kind of like AMD has kind of more been forced to do and allowing overclocking all the way down their product line and something that Intel did kind of throw us a bone wits with the G 32:58 but the G 32:58 is a dual-core not hyper threaded processor and really runs into some limitations when it comes to just games or applications that require more than two cores or even something to require four cores where you can even run it on the G 32:58 so I'm excited about this I kind of want to grab a 6400 which is the quad core that's clocked pretty low I think it's a 2.7 gigahertz or something and see what kind of performance you can get cranking that up because I mean saving 50 60 $70 on the cost of a processor but still being able to get that kind of performance is pretty compelling yeah oh yeah and this is even for the high-end users who are buying like core i7s and stuff instead of getting a core i5 60 all right instead of getting like the unlocks Q or you've locked yeah the unlike you you could just get the locks you and potentially get the same performance for less money so so yeah I don't I have no idea what Intel thinks about this sort of thing actually be kind of curious to know what their official stance is on this I mean ASIS or as Rock is able to do it which to me means that all of the other motherboard manufacturers will also be doing it within the next few weeks probably that's that's usually the case it trickles down like that here's a thought though I didn't really ever have any future near future plans to buy an i3 until this came around so maybe oh yeah yeah maybe this could be resurgence oval or yeah perhaps perhaps Intel sees it as something of a bit of a bargaining chip for people who are looking for a lot of danger the Russell's boards Jeff well it's cuz he's excited about oh you're lucky not overclocked processors it's wrong with you know I'm not gonna GPUs like that well no I mean I think the you know obviously we've seen stuff like this before we're also you find that sweet spot right it's like there's a surge or a run on that level of processor so yo obviously there's stuff Intel could do about it but if it's moving product right why would they yeah so that's true anyway we'll keep an eye on this and I'm sure there's gonna be lots of people grabbing these and kind of trying them out and see what kind of performance you can gets work queue thank you I just was before he put his head on my shoulder no see that looks forced this is a Paul I love you so much my shoulders naturally jagged and not as comfortable as cows Jake those spikes I had surgically implanted terrorists let's play Deus Ex sorry Oh like world of warcraft they have these like shoulder coverings in anyway I'm getting too far off topic let's move on to our next topic dear God brace yourselves bring this up as a star Star Trek fan hmm and I don't know if you guys have seen this but this is the Star Trek beyond trailer which was posted yesterday and if you guys haven't watch this I'm gonna play a little bit of it here but you're not gonna be able to get the audio notice do you like to dislike ratio for free try gives you an indication for a triple-a movie here they're like you know a top-tier movie from Paramount's with an established series behind it that's a pretty substantial amount of dislike this is worse than a second Batman vs. Superman trailer Batman's Ben Affleck so if you watch this preview the whole thing is backed by sabotage by the Beastie Boys which is a song that I like but I heard it here but I don't like it and I even liked it in the context of the first Star Trek reboot I feel like it was well used in there along with some Nokia product placement which I thought was weird I don't know how I remember that no Mac I swear but yeah this this one is just it's so like the action punching like like one-liners and and I don't know there there seems to be a lack of substance I think is what came from a lot of people and quit catching on the franchise yeah part of the reason might be or what some people are pointing the finger at here which I feel like comes up at some point the this is this movie is produced by JJ Abrams but you might also know he's been working on start our Star Wars so it's actually directed by Justin Lin which is shown really briefly early and probably probably just so the director Fester furious and was fast and furious which indication of what's going on here it's made almost reeks like they're trying to make the movie appeal to a wider audience like Star Trek is seen as too geeky so they're like hey let's spice it up and make it yo it's the minister yeah yeah yeah it's all edgy and like I was saying it looks like the trailer for like a new TV series on the CW yeah it's such a teeny boppers I think there's actually an oz bottle in works 8 is like you know they slam some Red Bull so that works so that the villains Vin Diesel's they hit a Brody going around a plan mid knees look comes up he's like I need a ten-second starship well he doesn't mist off the whole time he'll expect where's the best right all right show of hands here who likes The Fast and the Furious franchise wait we should delay that who did it like earlier oh yeah yeah the last ones gonna cool crap I mean what is so hope though haven't even seen the recent one so it earlier yeah I did ok the first one I liked and then everything after that I was just like yeah I have always really really disliked the Fast & Furious franchise part of it is probably because I'm not a big car person and you're small or person yeah well I have a small car person well it's partly - yes I won't go into the history of why I'm not a big car version and everything I'll save that for a future episode but like I just I've never been a big car person then I felt like fast in the Furious was like explosions action and car porn and but even still it made sense of the context of that movie this yes pulled so far out of its normal realm okay if you want me to dive deeper for my critique Fast & Furious the original fast and furious was Point Break Point Break was also ripped off from a lot of other movies well you know you know that we really seem Point Break yeah it's terrible yeah so the original I saw the original fast and furious I immediately hated it I immediately went on rants with people that Point Break and how unlike you actually can apply it to point three anyway so let's not be this about me hating fast and furious but I wanted to at least communicate mind I was surprised when you show this trailer to me right before we started streaming and stuff today it was how many like how they're trying to appeal with humor as opposed to like the drama or the action - I mean obviously there's action but it seems like they're just all the lines they say like you said they're one-liners it's like they're like haha like kinda funny but not cause perfect yeah where it's like this isn't the Star Trek even for the reboot that we're familiar with really and it just I feel like for a trailer like this when you're talking about Star Trek or Star Wars it you trailer should give you goosebumps and not make you go that was kind of joke which was all they used the entire day dad joked the out of these trailers okay it just seems it seems so forced like okay so we slap the Star Trek name on another movie and sell some more tickets the things they'll still make money of course cuz even people that are gonna be pissed by it are gonna go watch it to be pissed off and so ya say to their friends something that we never do so yeah I I heard some rumblings about this accident watch this trailer until earlier today but I immediately saw what people were saying about it and again this is this is a trailer this is pretty early on so we're jumping to some conclusions of course but I I don't know I'm less excited for this movie that I use for the reboot and even for for the was the second one called into the darkness heart of darkness harder and I think JJ Abrams spindle has creative fluids on the Star Wars movie that I'm looking at so close to each other I'm spent and honestly if we're gonna be fair to them you know you can make it trailer look like whatever the hell you want it to look like maybe this is just one really poorly edited trailer the sad thing is maybe this is one of those trailers like all the best points of the movie work in this trailer that's the case like dear God because I've seen some really good trailers just some really bad movies so it's like if you can't pull enough out of the movie to make a good trailer yeah there's not enough of a movie then yeah you that that leads to some probably gonna be disappointed in the long run anyway though alright so I wanted to talk about that a little bit when it the hell is this alright one more new story this is the new FAA rules that are requiring drone owners to register this ordinance by February 19th this is a survey this is a survey what does that make me aha oh sorry face yes time for sarge find Oh three musketeers Edition sword fight with three people and don't know how we're gonna do this we make it our swords crossed I'll just tell you guys why you're both wrong okay there you go josh is gonna be the ultimate arbiter so four sword fight then we usually take a somewhat controversial topic and we take opposite sides of it we try to argue those those sides for this one we're gonna start off by talking about these new u.s. FAA rules require requiring drone owners to register their drones by February 19th in the waive the fee 30 days oh yes like a five-dollar fee - right yeah there's a there's a five-dollar fee involved they're waiving it for the first 30 days so everyone be sure to jump on that early any drone owners who are 13 years of age or older I required to register and if you're under 13 years of age you're not you're not out of the requirements your parents need to first thing there's gonna be a bunch of six-year-olds own and pretty high end drones if all the dad's like no it's my kids might wonder be sorry failure to register can result in a hefty penalty civil fines of up to twenty seven thousand five hundred dollars criminal penalties up to 250 grand in three years in prison they say that they intend to focus the FAA says they intend to focus on encouraging compliance through a know before you know before you fly public education campaign backed by some manufacturers retailers and local law enforcement right put out on PBS on Saturdays it's new to know what when when the air time is like the cheapest and no one is watching I'm sure so um here's a question for all of you guys to answer I'm opposed to some chat uses reverted unfettered devices yes I did what's wrong with unfettered nothing's wrong with that just notice that you used it I like to have unfettered access to using the word unfettered okay so this question is pretty straightforward is any level of drone registration needed because because there's different there's different degrees of this this one is specifically targeting drones between the size of five to fifty five pounds I think you look at these like half a pound baby Jason yeah from what we saw earlier it was like the wide roads it would be under this weight except the super tiny micro drones that you could never fly outside because they couldn't combat the way branches typically don't have cameras this it's like a video if it if it runs into a mosquito in midair they could probably win okay hmm so anyway the answers here are yes rules from the FAA are appropriate yes but the current rules are an overreach they're too much maybe we need something more in between or no everyone has the right to unfettered access to drones and drone accessories I think I misspelled accessories sorry about that um got unfettered I did have a better October in properly all right so um how you want to go first oh sure I'll go with the obvious choice because I'm always right in these sword fights which is yes but the current rules are too much okay I do agree that there is some level of restriction that should be applied to drone users because what like there are stupid people that own drones and they ruin it for everyone so there has to be some way to regulate the stupid people obviously you can't just target the stupid people because it's impractical because if I got them with drones you could target them with droves possibly the irony but essentially you know one bad apple ruins the bunch right so of course we have to do this it's like I'm control it's like you know Josh and I were briefly briefly talking about this but I think the degree that they're taking it to is a bit far I don't know why that they would I don't know why they'd have to charge five dollars I mean even if they're giving you a 30-day grace period or whatever to actually register your drone if it's like they're trying to make it accessible and they want everyone to hop on board I don't know why there has to be because they have to pay for all the people are gonna to hire to track this year yeah exactly so it's like eating up more resources and it just seems impractical the fine i think is pretty outrageous for not registering i mean maybe that's that's appropriate if you're doing stupid with a drone you get caught or whatever then yeah three years in prison for sure but just not registering your drone like let's say some dude accidentally forgets you know whatever whatever the circumstance I think that's pretty harsh with a twenty seven thousand dollar fine involved I mean I don't know I think they're taking it too far there I think what it is kind of like they're amping it up to almost be a scare tactic to just like really like force and fear people into signing up and registering their drones but I think it's a little bit heavy-handed and yeah I think it's not that I think it's gonna work anyway okay yeah Josh do you wanna do you want to choose one of these and jump in hmm sure I'll go with the know everyone has a right to an fettered access you just drones and drone accessories you know here's my thought first off how are they defining a drone is it a remote piloted vehicle is that to some level autonomy what's the difference in their definition between a drone and a radio-controlled airplane which those have been around for years there are already restrictions to a certain agree with those you know you can't fly I mean within you know airspace of a you know an airport things like that I feel that it's just too much the government registration and but honestly though I think that if I'm taking this angle on it I'm gonna fight the part of like how they define it it doesn't need to be this restrictive at all its way too restrictive I mean half a pound that's basically everything that's out there maybe I'll even go a conspiracy theory okay we got Amazon lobbyists trying to free up the freakin air space for their drones to come in and deliver products it's just honestly it's way too much overreach I can understand the reasoning behind it that they've gone way too far so that's my patent answer not what I truly believe but that's the stance I took god damnit that's right well Paul before you before you go on with yours again comrade bunny and check if you click on his link I think it's pretty amazing what he's showing here although the drone the net drove yes so he's saying the Japanese have this already figured out it's pretty awesome what are you doing I'm tweeting hey I'm tweeting you tweet phonetic so I didn't see this the Japanese are you so yeah a net room it's actually catching a civilian drone in midair so the Japanese are using larger drones to capture smaller drones right with big Nets I feel like that's that's pretty badass we're like a big whale size drone to come in and capture a bigger drum that comes in and scoops Tamala something like that I I think that's pretty funny just do that let's do that all right so wait which which which one am i are you would have to go yes the rules the FAA rules FAA made up or propria here's why both you guys are wrong the drones are dangerous okay drones can be used for nefarious purposes and we've already seen them used to block aircraft when they're like trying to fight fires we've already seen them drones popping up everywhere when there's events like high-speed chases or something like that or even stuff that happened recently here in Southern California which I want to dive into but I think what we what this really is about is personal culpability personal responsibility and forcing people to register their drones even though the the repercussions might seem steep as far as the fines and everything that they do look at the vines that you get for like running a stop sign or something like that fairly minimal things killing a person yeah telling a person it's like really really hefty fines you get for tip why not kill someone yeah but but they set these high fines as a deterrence people because it's like wow that's a pretty big steep you know fee that I'll have to pay if I do something like that I think that the FAA and the circumstance is just trying to go about their job they're trying to do their duty to protect the citizens of the United States from improper drone use and without rules and regulations such as these then we'll have drones everywhere well counterpoint I say that no we don't know that yes I am yes I would hell I want you know the other aspect would also be it's like these rules will enforce nothing how are they going to police this it's only gonna be after something has already happened right there's no active kill switch on the drone there's nothing they can do to prevent drone issues from happy it's just once you do it a twenty seven thousand dollar fine I think it's more like after the fact if so let's say there's a fire or something and people are flying drones up to get aerial footage to the fire to post on YouTube or something like that and you know you're not supposed to do that or you know sensible people shouldn't do that because you know you can't fly planes into new it's just something that we experienced a lot in the pet over the summer when it was really hot but if you're flying your drone up there you might think to yourself if it's not registered I'll fly it up there I'll get some footage if the drone crash Falls or something like that happens I'm just gonna book it and you know maybe I lost my drone but you know I'm okay whereas if the drones registered and there's a serial number on it or something like that something identifiable and you fly it somewhere you shouldn't and then it gets shot down or it gets caught by a Japanese larger drone with the net or something like that then they can trace that drone back to you and say you specifically you because this drone is registered to you we're doing this in an area where you shouldn't and then they can come back and do whatever is but see what's what's crazy though is that only applies to people who are actually in the system yes because doesn't this also create like this underground black market now for drones like where you go on eBay or you go on you know Craigslist and you buy like a registered drone to a fake or you know a fake person or and then now you can have free range you can do whatever the you want and no one can ever trace it back to you or you just don't register is like register you know they give you the steep fine for not registering right it's like the how the hell are they going to know it was yours to come after you because you never registered it right unless they're getting to the point where it's like firearms and there's like a background check in the store has to register your drone to you yeah in which case fine do everything at checkout piss everybody else off okay a kid you know like an 18 year old like hundred bucks to buy a drone for you yeah this is gonna kill my drone was stolen last week yeah exactly yeah yep so I mean how easy of an excuse would that be it's like my drone crashed I couldn't find it so I still got the remote but somebody else could just you know pop the frequency and run it okay um I don't have the energy to argue further but also wrong you know we wear you down no you're wrong it's also because I tend to agree more with the air equip the points that you guys took so let's see what what people thought well we actually play even in split I'm surprised as many people said yes the rules are appropriate you guys must have been in circumstances where drones caused you great trauma I think the reality of it is there are idiots out there it up for everybody like what yeah what happens with everything there's morons out there and those those aren't the responsible drone owners those aren't the people that are gonna go out there and buy some sweet-ass drone and they're in it for the Hobby it's like your idiot neighbor who wants you stupid and crashes it in your pool party or you know and that and that kind of creates the face of have received yeah drone users oh every drone user is like a reckless team because this this and this happened no one ever like reports on the stories of look at how responsible this drone user was because if you're responsible and no one's gonna give a it's not Newseum exactly there's a guy with a drone out there who just uses it to help old woman across the street that's all that they do with that drone and does the media report on them no no because of the anti drone Lobby but you know we need we need the NDA than the National drone Association I'm very familiar with the NDA to to create to have a strong lobbying influence with our Congress to prevent any of these drone laws from going through well if you think about it like I wonder how much of this is like it's a Lac lobbying because the drone markets pretty fractured right much a smaller startup type companies especially now there's no I mean the big guys are like what Boeing Raytheon I've been doing government contracts on the commercial space none of those guys are the money to lobby this type of thing there's no a collective face that I'm aware of of the drone community that's large enough to represent a unified front so you're right Josh I agree that drone legislation should be written into the Constitution so that we all have a constitutional right to access to drones bingo the amendment 97 okay we're gonna leave we're gonna leave the potential correlation at that and move on to the next topic before we get ourselves in trouble all right here is an article that was posted earlier this week by Jason of Angelo who was a he writes for lots of different I don't know who he writes for these days Forbes is one of them Forbes is one of them yes this is a cliff ski calm article I suppose from the UK it's titled hi I'm from the games industry governments please stop us and this article is written by a game developer who intentionally and specifically at the very beginning of the article says that they the things that they don't do we don't make free-to-play games we don't have micro transactions he also says that he is a capitalist much like Josh he likes making money do you where you work of your capital exactly play GTA 5 he's not a big fan of government regulation i'ma get rid of red tape kind of guy I actually oppose tech tax breaks for game development and I'm not a friend of regulation but nevertheless he's specifically talking well he talks about star citizen a bit star citizen being a space game made by someone who made space came two years ago and crowdfunded the money to make this one the game is way behind schedule it's not finished yet they just passed 100 million in funds raised and they do this because the individual ships and star citizen are for sale and even though you can't buy the game and just play the game straight up right now you can buy ships for it as much as you want to so he goes on to sort of talk about some of the other online games that are out there star citizen is a much more legitimate one from our perspective as far as it's an actual like PC game with I mean theoretically of course if it launches but you can compare it to this game like ebony with this like chick on the title that you click on and then install the game as you started this article is like whatever and then you got them rooms are bed and then you got what's-her-face here from game game of war i've didn't Kate Upton who did the game of war thing which cost 40 million dollars by the way that ad did you know that that ad campaign with Kate Upton cost to see this shipped it to like Mariah Carey that's like a yeah second-string Kate Upton decide to go the other way but they say game of war makes a lot of money the ad campaign cost of 40 million but who cares when you make over 1 million dollars per freaking day well that just is like they wouldn't spend that much if they didn't see a return ours yeah that gives you an idea yes so we've all seen that ad so clearly it's working basically because of the gameplay we like to exactly I really pause that at the end of the university so big block of text here example of a game achievements page and basically what he wraps up by saying is that game makers right now particularly the game makers who are making games that are widely paid widely played on platforms like mobile devices which are easily accessible by lots of people and they go about getting more people to play the games by doing stuff like massive ad campaigns and Kate Upton but also that they use techniques to get people to play the games continue playing the games and also investing techniques usually it's large to big huge massive tracts of techniques through your face yes to get people to play the game but also to continue playing the game and also invest in micro transactions and one of the things that's in research that they've discovered about these games it's not necessarily that lots of people buying little things here and there is what makes these games money it's people who have addictive tendencies one guy drop it a thousand people who are into gambling who who see something like this page right here with all of these got achievements on it who have OCD or something like that who's like I need to fill out every single every one of these needs to be the EP done or something like however much money you need until it's a done you could call much like maybe buying a shark card to get a yacht I wouldn't do that anyway I digress yeah yeah it's pretty nice ok so anyway how does this all tie back into a certified argument well let's go ahead and go over and talk about the actual straw poll here which I post is a chat for you guys which is should the government step in that's kind of what the article is suggesting as you might have noticed from the title which is like hey governments you step in to handle certain things that has been shown to be detrimental to people so just never mean such as gambling which is regulated yep and I think rightly so I think government regulation is necessary in some places show you government step in to prevent this type of thing from happening predatory microtransaction based gaming practices should this just be stopped not necessarily stopped by people saying you know what I'm just not going to that are missin interplay tore anything but stopped at a level above that where it's like no you can't do this because it's against the law this is all so cleverly positioned against the first strawpoll sword argument Fah should step in exactly should really Stephanie we can't necessarily argue argue all three points here because the third point is just joke but yes or no I don't know does it do either of you have a strong opinion on this one where they just rollin just go first since I went first last gosh you don't know what the to say yeah okay I think there needs to be some level of regulation on any type of commerce in that vein actually if I may interject really quickly you're wrong not to say that you're wrong but did shoot this event I meant to say this as I was introducing this was that this also reminded me very closely of what's going on right now with FanDuel and draftkings mm-hmm saying online betting stuff well anybody mine owns unicorn which doesn't like a lot of the east bets these sports board eSports betting words are hard okay yeah I think I don't know about government involvement I don't know how much that would really solve what's going on if anything it seems like it just makes the practices more predatory and creepy you know as people try to find workarounds for technically I didn't do that I don't know that that's the answer I think there should be some level of oversight whether that's a private committee or something but again it kind of comes back to like you can regulate gambling it doesn't keep people from gambling if people have addictive personalities they're still gonna find a way to gamble it's like how long drugs hasn't made people stop doing drugs now that these are direct correlations but I don't think that the government stepping in is gonna solve anything okay and I guess I'll have to argue the opposites and say yes the government should definitely keep in our games instead of stay out you know open our business yes we we should not be allowed unfair access to these predatory microtransaction based gaming practices someone needs to step in and I think the government would do a great job because honestly gambling is a problem and this this is essentially gambling in the same respect that you are you are spending money for you know a chance to win something and I think that it is destructive it's an ongoing problem with our society and granted I'm not saying that people should just continue their gambling practices and let the government intervene you should find help yourself or hopefully you have like a support system or family or friends that can help you with that but for those there are lots of gamblers that have this problem addictive personalities or OCD that are alone and they don't have support systems like a lot of us are fortunate to have so I think there does need to be some level of regulation involved in this otherwise things gets spiraled out of control and we're gonna see like way too many more candy crush alternatives pop up and no one wants that nobody wants that angry I don't have a side to argue so let's just go straight to the results top car where is it stop I think it's time he's read that so I don't get fat so most of you say no the government should stay out of our games few people say yes and a few people voted for the FAA if it is easy easy answer they say it was the way we're handling the drone thing it's like but but yeah i III feel like this needs to go a little bit further before action is taken well and I think one of the problems is there as far as I know and I didn't read the full article they're not really doing anything illegal so that gives it like a very untenable legislative ground right like you what are they doing wrong well it's not wrong it's just kind of shady yeah well like okay like they should be nicer okay fine it shouldn't cost me $3 to get that ribbon should cost - yeah and the other thing is you know the government is supposed to protect its people but to what extent you know if someone really wants to do something and what point have you done enough you know at what point does somebody have to take responsibility for their own damned action right it is some poor schlub somewhere who's addicted to something which everybody has their addictions at some point time you've got a whole NEX that's only way you're ever gonna fix that you know people don't get sober unless they want to get sober no matter like when they hit rock bottom it's like it's rock bottom because then you finally realize I need to get sober and with this like preventing it they'll find something else to do so if you're doing it for the protection of that person that becomes a moot point because that person will find a way to fill whatever hole they're filling with you know the addictive personality well said Josh all right yeah what who said unless you fight my entire argument beforehand I I think I don't think there's an easy answer to this but there was a a comment in chat that said simpletons are killing gaming stuff supporting these types of games we should just stop stupid people from playing video games or from people from playing stupid games that's true all right um that's the khaki that actually wraps up that actually wraps up the planned content for my half of the show but we are gonna open it up for some questions right now so we're in the Q&A section women chat so more homework questions if a train leaves Detroit it's just like her basic math algebra stuff like my own she knew because we would not help at all with that you had a green tree or maglev or old coal destroying the environment you socialist Pig tournament no I like those maglev trains um beeps headlights move in oh that's the one we thought it looked like an FBI agent like oh yeah the FBI is going downhill just every five minutes you like it's gonna kind of lids in nowhere uh what did you have for breakfast I had oatmeal and coffee I had room service canola bar you're Lola bar okay I don't see any other questions why we want to know that anyone going to PAX East ooh asses fire hog it's a good question I am NOT currently planning to go to pax east I'm not either when is PAX East this year last year it was like the week after CES as they always have like chicks before that it was always like wanted be like on Easter rather be like a Memorial Day weekend yeah plus there's packs out this year too right Austin there was a dream house in Austin oh is it awesome they're saying to me other kids might like done I clicked on Q&A but apparently it's tech of the day after tomorrow they're Kyle so you need to you need to eat your ice cream cone we're so practiced okay hey here's a little what games we play on the regular oj5 pretty much is my go-to right now that I'm still especially with the DLC cut that dammit dammit not yet yacht visitation on Thursdays all using two timeshare look it takes hit time then pink all people trying to sell it to them hey how would you like three online hours I might think that the arguments you'd have over like where to move it though it's like 25 grand every time you repainted it what what as long as I'm in the hot tub like 50 percent of time you can take it where the yeah oh thank you we should make use of it we're about you oh hey we got a we got a donation from pup shepherd thank you pup hey thanks better than that do you think paying for plugs and YouTube chat is a good idea he asks well paying for a plug in YouTube chat I think it's a it's a great idea and everyone should do it we of course we of course appreciate it when that happens but it's definitely not necessary I'm just telling me know what's a dumbass where's the note to or to Josh it's a new egg and NCIX they have stock now they've had it for about a week if you go to either one of those sites search node two or two they'll have it you're outside the US it's getting to market as quickly as possible I don't control that so they should be showing up soon why would you do that test Josh just to piss you why would you even you did that on purpose didn't you yeah you created an angle then reject price seven thousand percent by wu-tang to share me h geotech HJ otech also saw some donation and chat that's him Rizal is that Henry's oh yeah that's his youtube geotech Thank You Henry zl-- he said he's pre-ordering his awesome hardware thumb police should you advise him against that well we only provide top top-tier products through dr. e roars top-tier OU's all the best only the best stuff what are you religious beliefs I know when I into it hey Dad I don't favorite stress test shitstorm waiting to happen favorites residence hall attics next is a real question what's your favorite stress test program for testing over clocks I like a steel bench a lot okay I think it's a pretty fair program it doesn't like crank up the voltage on wanting ly so like like prime95 does yes and it's a very realistic test as well aces real bench is a good one I like throwing on 3d mark just the 3d mark mmm test cuz it goes through several tests it also does the CPU test in there oh crap I'm gonna forget what this is I can't remember the name right now he's asking for CPU right yeah or just what is the software suite that I use it is 64 88 a 68 is 64 burnin tests when it comes to like full system burnin test I think is one of the best ones because it maxes out memory and CPU and a lot of the other stuff in the system I get two questions great job yep okay what person asked if the new corsair their small form-factor liquid cooler will work in the node 202 I do not believe so I haven't seen the exact dimensions on that but looks like it probably too tall yeah I figured our website it has the high three strictures and there were to believe is 56 millimeters in height and I'm pretty sure that thing is bigger yeah second question someone asked oh when are we gonna renew our contract with mega Mahmood so he gets more cases into Brazil out of my area I don't I don't handle South America or Latin America and last time I checked we were working with them but personally me speaking right now a lot of our products seemed you know we get the import costs in taxes going into Brazil was pushing the price up quite a bit but we're still in good terms with them so if you want to see it honestly for anybody in any region if you want to see a product that's not there the best thing you can do is hammer the shops you normally buy for saying that you want to see it because it all comes down to supply and demand if your local store sees 10 people asking for widget a they're gonna try and find a way to bring widget a in so if they have a demonstrated demand they're gonna try and supply that demand and then they're gonna come to us or whoever you're looking to get the product from so it's honestly the best way you can do it is just you know I guess I would call it activism but you know go to the people you want to they buy stuff from tell what you want to buy ok question from our friend sell on twitch chat are you gonna be streaming to your twitch channel tonight Josh ah how many pcs do you have i well I mean you have quite a few I have a few I don't know we're gonna go to dinner and then we're gonna figure out all that stuff if there's a way yes if not the no are you want to share are you accepting reseller applications me personally since I don't sell anything I personally have not the best way to to start that conversation if you do want to go that route sales at frackle - design.com or go through our website contact us fill out your country information everything they'll write you to the right people to handle that and they can work out the particulars with you it's more than I can really go over here but the team would be happy to talk to him find out what you're looking for okay Austin Pearce dropped a little donation in chat Thank You Austin for that and he asked how much would I have to donate to get Josh to stand and pose with the nearest non fractal case and take a picture probably probably more than a dollar yeah yeah guessing well I don't want to take your money like that that's true that's true I think the nearest non fractal case is always a m2 pro-pro Bank there which has been slowly stripped of parts over ten nations well to be fair people always expect me to hate like in other companies cases it's like there's a few companies I don't care for that's me personally and it's probably not the ones everyone's thinking of but more than anything it's like I'm also the VP of Marketing so yeah as much as I want to be explaining that on Monday morning like why am i pimping out somebody else's case because again internet and out of context are synonymous so yeah I feel like you share a mentality with George from Coursera and when it comes to that where it's like whom I've actually never ever met really yeah we never met Wow well he's somebody from Coursera I have a lot of respect for you you know he tells it like it is he's very upfront with stuff and he you know help talk about other people's cases and he'll give credit where credit's due when it's necessary so these days well it's so visible right like if you try and act like you're the only game in town and when I'm screaming or stuff like that people like some are trolling me like hey I'm looking to get in the Corsair blah blah blah what do you think about that Lee good if that's what works for you I mean I can't make you like my case and honestly there's situations where maybe our case isn't the best fit for what you want to do you know we don't have a case the size like say the 900 D or something like that so I'm not gonna try and talk you into something smaller if it's not gonna fit all your gears one of those things like go with what you like and that goes for graphics cards power supplies me there's a lot of there's a lot of elitism on the internet about you need to have this or you're not good enough and that's what pisses me off more anything else is you know we keep talking about PC master-race which if you think about it how stuck up is that but it's like you know we want to bring more people into the community and then it's like the second you hop into a forum you get 10 people trash talk and you're set up it's not good enough it's like that's not exactly a welcoming environment if it if it accomplishes what you need it to then good if you want to upgrade in the future good and even like you know the you know pet my CPC and stuff like that it's still aimed it like it here's how you can make it better and you're submitting yourself to this because you obviously want to make your system better but you know at the end of the day if it works for you use it that that's the way it should work it shouldn't have to be you're trying to satisfy everybody else because you never ever will I mean ask these guys you can't make a video that makes everybody happy you can I show off a product that makes everybody happy it doesn't exist so do what makes you happy unless it's flying a drone and then stop registering the wrong and actually you can you can actually pay for that registration by donating five dollars to this stream and all do all the paperwork for you Hilbert's drone under his name so yeah I guarantee it that the previous procedures in nature here's a question add some ads ops key any chance this is for you for Josh any chance they define s will come in a blackout version or is this a comment on future yeah okay so I preface I cannot comment approximately or may not be a development blah blah blah blah that being said I have not seen anything like that and that's not a comment that's just me thinking however I can tell you the whole reason that the original blackout came into being is because people asked for the same thing as I say about the resellers go to our Contact Us page there's a drop down menu under type and product suggestions is there if you send in what you want to see there that goes literally directly to a product developers so them hearing it from you is more powerful than them hearing it from me if I say hey I heard five guys last night to say that they wanted this versus five people actually message him because the reality of it is any of us go buy something how often do you write a positive review about anything online like I know you I'll get around to you don't do it so more anything that's seen that someone's impassionate enough about that take that extra step to take three minutes go to the website and send it in you know kind of echoes like there's 50 people who probably wanted that and didn't take the time to do it so you know it also be cool is like just for me personally if you guys maybe in some day in the future if you offered like a blackout kit that just came out with like all the PC ice long as you that it so so okay not to buy a whole new case if you already have it let's say you want to convert it from the traditional black and white - just like blacking it out one day so yeah another example of that inside the US Puget systems handles a lot of spare parts for us they choose to like sell like extra side panels Drive tray so you can make a blackout or a whiteout system if you wanted to and then worldwide we have one in Germany to handle space in the rest of the world if you search like spare parts fractal design we'll pop up and there you can order trays and side panels and stuff like that they don't always have everything especially on the newer cases they might not have it but that's the way I do it or if you email a tech support department they can probably point you in a directional place where you can get that nice cool all right Shepard yeah one more of those gonna ask the same one pup Shepard thank you for the dollar donation by the way take a pup has nothing to do with why I'm reading your question to Josh what funny thing will you make Linus do next hashtag pie practiced well first of all probably be working with Linus in the future he and I broke up about six months ago oh yeah there's a whole world of Linus alternatives actually hampered tech youtubers uh honestly I don't know um - I have been talking a lot lately just like via text and stuff like that as far as immediate plans I don't have anything off the top of my head honestly I've been have more fun lately doing like pretty girls like these guys and J and and Dimitri just trying to get some more entertaining stuff out there so I feel like god dammit if you have to watch an ad it should least entertain you if I'm if I want 30 seconds to your time and I want you to buy my product I want you to at least get something out of it as opposed to you know some dry boring overhyped marketing crap I thoroughly agree coming from a marketing VP don't trust marketing unless it's mine I mean I ever I've grown up sort of over time developing this like I don't know this barrier to add natural aversion like anything I see that's an ad I'm like that's an that I'm ignoring it that's an ad I'm ignoring it I just ignore ads the only time I like really appreciate an ass like well at least they gave me a chuckle yeah that's that's yeah that's what I kind of comes to that do for me but um well and then here's the devious part of where I'm a shady bastard if it's funny you're probably gonna share it more oh yeah we're gonna see it but the reality is I like doing funny but that's good marketing yeah it's like good marketing versus Lykes I don't know standard marketing or spin yeah so anyway I think we appreciate I think funny ads are overrated now think they should ever be made or produced or shown I like the really traditional you know just super straight-laced and and kind of a little chase thing yeah a little behind the scenes it is when Kyle sent me the first cut of me throwing Heather out of the car I watched I thought it was good he watching he thought it was good and my wife's like it looks like she's trying to get away from me and I'm like what and then I'm watching like I can't unsee that like we need to do some voiceover to make it clear like she talked too much get out of the car not like oh my god oh yeah so it's like again it's something where it's always good to have a few different lens on it even like back back behind the scenes like everything that you saw how they're doing that like none of it was acting to us all those real pain that she suffered yeah she was she didn't know I was filming she actually hated you after that and that's actually hated him before that that's part of the documentary and occurred ongoing legal battle okay I would love to sit here and keep answering questions but I am freaking hungry oh yeah maybe sounds bomb yeah maybe we'll periscope yeah not the entire time - maybe what were they what if all three of us periscopes at once Steve and I do the dual periscope we cross our streams well we're at twitchcon that's the height of Arafah sysm in dental hygiene guys thank you all so much for watching awesome harder I hope you 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