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I'm not cut off yet it's part of it you stop it okay before we talk news let's quickly talk about how you can support us if you're not already enamored with us enough you could also support us by buying some stuff on our stores there you we have a few new products this is kyle store which is awesomesauce network com / stored he has a new flash the BIOS shirt flash the BIOS tricked the bios flasher shirt I like I like singing the Bible extra shirts bios flasher and so yeah guys are very flattered that you know it's very nice I'm all dated your bio shirt yet all hi quit high quality just update your bio shirt everyone um you want one hundred percent support and compatibility that's true always good advice meanwhile I have recently launched finally the zero insertion force shirt available in black or in in heather gray which is sexist and sweeping the nation so far if guys if you can't find your size in stock you might need to wait till next week because we are going to tech syndicate 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don't know if I should call this my first segment or not let's juice Eggman new segment called mail time mail time that's right mail time down sexist because we have physical mail here so to physical nails to physical males that were mailed to us we're sitting right next this is okay and if you want to send me stuff ship it to paul's hardware p.o box for three to five diamond bar California and I'm 17 I'm jealous you can just spat out like an address that you own and make it public yeah and not worry about anyone sending you anthrax or something so this I'm actually I was actually supposed to show this last week but again distractions and all being what they were this is the first thing that I got in my p.o box and this is this is what is apparently known as a potato parcel it's the thing so thing I do not know who sent this so thank you generous generous contributor my sugar daddy you call that a contribution am but yeah potato parcel calm and the message the message inscribed upon the potato yeah hey Paul heard you wanted useful things so here's a potato enjoy we should get potatoes are sold come to sponsor the show we should and just have a bunch of you guys send us in your own potato parcels and will read them off during the show we've already given them tons of tons of stuff yes potato parcel that's true haha alright next up though next I'll eat we have something we've been waiting on for quite some time these are from Ray sure oh yes Ryan good ol dry shirt and I'm not gonna show this because it says his it address on it but I'm good yeah and he does decals and and all that kind of stuff decals decals deck so we have one here this is for Kyle this is for me a like an envelope with my name on it he sent these over and um wow there's a lot there's a big old pile I haven't not looked at yours but like I now have a sticker of my face yeah I would be illegal in mind well Paul's hardware logo more network some of these are awesome hard look even wrote special 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for her tush sticking these place tonight that they shouldn't be but I don't care and so you and so end it's mail time melbourne let's move on to next segment a brand new segment something something that you guys are probably all waiting for can I segment called choose the cupcake choose a cupcake yeah this is a new one alright so I'm excited to see how this pans out I wonder who's wondering what the hell does this have to do with technology segment does seem a bit half-baked look don't worry about it you don't worry about okay I'm gonna say is that my wife my lovely wife brought these cupcakes home where'd you get them from by the way where do you get cupcakes like this what place sells these kinds of cupcakes don't remember this and I didn't bring one of the one had a sticker on it it's a bakery that's up I wish I were sure you'll get them to sponsor the show okay so here's here's what we got here guys we have two cupcakes and you know what I should have done I should have taken some close up pictures of them you should have you should have so we can get this so these are to have beautiful two cupcakes of two different flavors sweetim item yeah Kyle's gonna sweet a picture of these right now ready you guys a better better close up shot focus they look quite delicious okay um are you going to explain later are these are we keeping that a secret for now no no we the flavors of the cupcakes so here's choosing a cupcake is a very important thing especially when you have multiple options available to you what I try to do is bring two cupcakes that both Kyle or I might enjoy so that we could possibly have a little game where we decide who gets what cupcake but we don't know which cupcake either of us wants so it becomes it becomes it's like a convoluted it's like a game it's a Gauss it's like Game of Thrones really in deciding which cupcake either of us will have one of us will die because one of us I probably died and and just so you guys know the flavors of the cupcakes that we're dealing with here I just tweeted a picture of the cupcake so if you want to close up high definition visual each of these cupcakes you can go to my Twitter page forever a Kyle yeah colleges tweeted a pic or you can look it up right here on the stream or we can just should look at the boom look how amazing sciences yeah these are the technology cupcakes tech cupcakes need to make it oh wow whoa that's a high def pic nice job phone killing it those are the cupcakes alright so on the right we have a salted caramel pretzel right on the left is like a dark chocolate with nuts okay okay the way the way the first step of this entire process because this is a bit of a process you guys think this is gonna be a short segment about choosing a cupcake no no I'm dragging the out anyway so here here's something for you guys to vote upon I'm going to put a couple strap holes in here we want to know first off like which of these cupcakes would best associate with us so how would you guys describe Kyle we have two options sweet and salty or dark and nutty and then we have the same straw poll that's available here for me so here's the second straw poll yeah and you guys think you guys aren't watching this right now you're like what the is he talking about with cupcakes I don't care all right I don't care shut up and you help us choose which god damn cupcakes we're gonna eat we ran out of content idea i I'm sorry no I did Kyle's half has plenty of content my half look we're choosing to cupcake all right I am jealous you get the cupcake segment I would prefer the cupcake segment overall but you'll get a cupcake Porter news or snow bunny knows about the next segment is called eating the cupcake we're just gonna eat the cupcake for about six or seven minutes let's have to show right here silence we need to be sizable use the cupcake eat the cupcake cupcake we're half done we're halfway through love it right the other thing is that nobody and nobody in YouTube on YouTube has these links sadly this is the most show prep we've ever had oh yeah YouTube you know we have like plates and little YouTube horse for some links so you guys can get in on this too for now but how would I want to know how you what which how do you identify yourself here though um have these two options we'll see like salty the whole salty thing that's that that's kind of you know gained a connotation on the internet for being like angry right or like if you're bitter about something you're salty a little bit well that's that's kind of what I saw I I don't see myself necessarily as a bitter person I'm just gotta let things roll off of me but you do too so I wouldn't describe us all to either so I feel like that's the one that's the one thing because I feel like we you and I can both be sweet nutty and dark all at the same time sometimes like they all share let's again you know we share some of those attributes that you know the salty thing I'm not sure um I I would have to go dark and nutty just as a whole it suits me better I am freaking nutty at time so I I can't act I true and I cannot deny behind socal's more identifying with dark and I see I like what you're saying what you know about salty but I feel like all right I'm gonna play devil's advocate here on the side of the salt though right especially wouldn't the association that you have with like people don't follow salty sea plug people feel in salty right no that's why I'm defending it rhymed if in here don't be salty bro but salty I mean it's like you're bitter about stuff or like that kind of thing but that's not really ate it what I see salty is being it's it you're being you're being of damn it the word I'm looking for here you're you're being soluble soluble in water with a high nacl no trying to think of words as a septum something no you're being discerning this is the word I'm trying to be like you know if you want to be negative about something if you want to be if you and I could take something yeah that's like what we do you know we review stuff okay you know here's what I didn't like about this yeah in this because it's stupid okay and you get a little salty about it but hey you know what that's part of life you got to take you got to take the dark and nutty along with the salty and sweet and sweet and salty that's true let's and you don't get the sweet without the salty we're gonna move this little they come as a package that's true well the package both of these are undoubtedly sweet yeah and indubitably all right you got lots of side beat us lets us all going on and twitch chat here Robert uh let's see what you looking at salt what people Kyle got dark and Eddie you house definitely dark and Eddie bag what am i a two percent margin according to according to people voting on the stroke and you know they all meant dark like literally like no he doesn't have like this is dark deke to him he's just physically Brown physically his skis browner than I am all right I'm sealer nuts let's see what was for me here and I go oh you're whoa what what holy crap not even is fifty-fifty well you get one more vote for sweet and salty no notes milk it it's chick it's changed by the same I'm I was we I was you were you were so few seconds ago sweet and salty but then i just i switched right Betsy that shows you how important it is that we did this segment of the show today we would never know is because we would never obviously this is a highly contested you see I we should argue about this on our side fight later as well just the whole episode is Jesus asked okay bed revolves around these cupcakes um look at now it's just it's skyrocketing now 64 dark and Eddie's going on all right now you get rolling because my results were already revealed I think I think initially you had sweet and salty as your as the top pick I think that's what people were feeling more of and then once we revealed my result started it was dead it was it was pretty dead breaking even you're right it shows how versatile I am that's true that's true cuz you can be pretty dark too so you know you got some dark humor in yeah I can so I've okay people don't think you're very discerning that's really all i have planned for this segment but what I realized that I've completely failed though it actually helping us decide which cupcake to choose well I thought it was whatever the audience chose everywhere audience joke right so sorry you get the chocolate and I get the salt and crime yes yeah I mean I mean even though this was pretty much a tie for you this was definitely in my favor that's true so I guess that's how we can decide for a gun with the numbers sake of ease in it although i do want to try a bite of that because the pretzel looks good too mine well well screw you against is spoken you have been salty enough today that's true you where's your sweet side oh where is the sweetness the one the one that I tried last night was it aight Tyrone I put on which is a licensor oh it's a Filipino dessert it's like banana wrapped in like rice paper and the fried ooh it's really good it's like writing plantain type of yeah yeah and the Soviet the one they made was an absolutely amazing okay Wow time to time to move on this is gonna be the most decadent thing I've ever to hopefully provide a bit of contrast to that the silliness that has been the show so far let's actually skip straight to news oh wow how is it how is this really good yeah yeah these are really I mean they're really good kept it's not even like oh the topping whatever the topping is like the cake itself is like Oh moist yeah its just oh it's what makes me I'll find that but hunt them down like that I will find them myself if I have to do let's do some news Peter already pushed out into revolt hmm but I started talking about the goddamn cooking love it crank is a lie so the first big headline news story here and and yeah let's just let's just jump right into it is is asrock this is pc world article by the way this is by Gordon none and as rock has basically confirmed the ten core Core i7 broad will process Broadwell e processor the 6950 X they've confirmed that it's going to be out that it's going to have 10 cores this is all the stuff that's been kind of rumor up till now there were some Intel stuff that happened last week that we've kind of discussed as well but as rock just came out with a press release yeah hey here's here's a press release about it oh the press release stated among other things here's the actual press release on their site the most in unmissable part of Intel Broadwell e is the flagship core i7 6950 X which will be the first deca core processor on on the commercial market horror latekka core dumps fundus yeah I'm the DECA core it is a deck or it's a deca quarterdeck get the deca guard I have a deca core in my system so she can't wait to say that that's why I'm going to spend the fifteen hundred dollars to buy it so i can say that it's ways it's a way better than quad-core deca core have you tried my cupcakes that's ten that's ten cores but it actually has double number right be cool if you could put 10 of them together a decade dekha korte mm-hmm what's what's the thing for twenty eventi eventi core yeah like a comes after the grande that's that's wrong I'm getting your unravel it my only basis from knowledge for that reference okay BAM um well that's fun 10 cores kind of fun tim kouris Broadway Brad well II these should go in x99 motherboards so existing XNA and motherboard should support them as long as your motherboard manufacturer provides a bios update yeah you will need to update your bios first before you drop the processor in unless you have a fancy motherboard that can do something like USB bios flashback like asus boards and gigabyte has a version of that too i haven't at this ms i have one of those ya know gigabyte did it ms i think Emma side does yeah yeah and I think they all do all the major players is cool apart from it actually being like pretty much verifiably confirmed right now though there's a little bit more information that has come out regarding this and that is these guys right here three other skews an i7 6900 k at I 768 50k and an i7 6800 k these are no their bra freshers they're just turned abroad well II owe the brunt will eat yeah okay I thought these really know the whole county whatever no no I did oh no they're all 6000 series okay but yeah they're all the 6800 series and the 6900 series are enthusiasts rod well II yeah so there's no specific details on those CPUs quite yet presumptively or the assumption right now is that the 6900 k is going to be an eight-core and then the 6850 k and 6800 k are going to be six cores who knows what they're going to do about pcie lanes or nothing to differentiate Stan like that Intel had that leak that happened last week though already that we talked about that stated that the 69 50 x would be running at three point five gigahertz out of the box which is pretty pretty nice for a 10 core processor often the you know the even the x-series ones when they have lots of cores you know they can run at lower clock speed 59 60 x was three point oh I think base yeah I forget I figured surest maybe I might have been 3.2 turbo or three point I forget yeah anyway um Jordan coward thank you so much for your donation sir I'm glad that somebody found the cupcake thing I hope it was vaguely amusing um anyway the young one fan there's speculation in the article that these leaks might be like sort of intentional on Intel's part due to like sales of desktop parts not being quite as like spectaculars that could be and then I'm going to Windows 10 all that kind of stuff yeah so who knows I'm never really sure if until I kind of Intel's usually pretty conservative about stuff like that they're usually pretty strict about their launches and that kind of thing right and who's to know if they ever like actually condone like a leak or something like that you know usually that type of thing would happen behind ya pan closed doors or a phone call or something who knows I don't know or it could just be as rock being the scrappy underdog in the motherboard market wanting to gain more attention for themselves and also having less regard for Intel's NDA's I don't know yeah could be either one that's exciting though it is this kind of be saying that means we have to up we both have to update our test beds now the Canada's yeah i'm yeah I don't know what I'm gonna do I might I mean get update the main system maybe I don't know we'll see you're a Arctic Panther possibly be swapping yeah do loss current-gen baby I don't know I feel like I'm gonna swap in like a fifth 6950 X and maybe some Pascal cards some gp100 s probably gonna do a whole build like a whole fresh build from the ground up I think yeah I mean I don't know what I'm gonna do a hotline then ha lines gonna be old news by then i'll probably just like leave it in a dumpster somewhere piece anyways your just because it's it's it's time is over let's check it i mean it's no one would i get not even bother reselling the parts no apply them no one's gonna care if i even bother anyway okay let's uh let's move on the next story all right when we wanted the next story isn't really a story next oh god why is it doing this I will stare my laptop if I want to her me excuse you to their huh sears is what we're going to do next what this is some news but it's news that Kyle and I aren't really that familiar with so we're gonna do is we're gonna do a reactive video yay react videos Cal and I are gonna react now Amanda now that we won't get sued by the fine Bros yeah yeah for sure we're gonna react to a couple game trailers have just come out for games that yes are going to be available on PC okay as well as consul yep so we got titanfall 2 as well as Gears of War for okay two big lunches too big launches two big trailers that just drop neither of them are terribly so the only thing that I might have a hard time with here is I'm gonna play it here and I play it for you guys so we don't have audio over here but we have audio here anyway we'll figure it out and yeah the audio might be a little out of sync for you guys but that's okay because we don't want to we don't want to share the audio from the south oh god I forgot that still going one of the trailers is only music and there's no actual dialogue so the sink won't even be very notice yeah that's sure um I think that's for the gears of war one okay so I feel I feel like so like I have to perform because you know for a reaction my first reaction of you ever we're gonna be real tiny in the little in the corner that's true pleasure to see her that means no means my my reactions to be even bigger than actually like hmm I should have done a new exploit layout for okay this I'm just getting my reaction fast we're gonna start with tight tight ball to do it over here and make this tf2 no not to be mistaken for team thing I do yes I mode but all right let's uh let's hit play simultaneously oh wait after this ad this adds gotta play why am I not signed in with like okay ready yep Evans ready do it the problem is you have to be willing to die for what you believe it was the ad dad try so hard you'll live longer he's got a sword oh that's new that's a new thing great they didn't have swords before you're right now they're like Gundams that was it that was a whole song oh I didn't even realize the title says it has swords in it that was the best trailer I've ever seen that was so compelling I've never seen anything more exciting what a reveal it is a teaser trailer it's a teaser trailer they put the word teaser and they were so it's okay who's that so so yeah so titanfall with swords are you interested now uh you know if I wasn't on board before I certainly am now I mean if that was the one thing I was like you know title great game but no swords ya hear it I was like well I'm out then I guess I can't participate in this I can't be a part of whatever this is cuz we need some more nuanced tunic to the melee donna combat and everything you know yep shen ji alright well wasn't that a fabulous reaction we just yeah we did we okay I don't why do you guys saw it I don't know what else to say about it like they got a sword and dude sounded that he was also kinda like just telling you to chill he was like hey you know don't try so hard have a limited night as wasn't that kind of the message have a lemonade I you said to chill I was sure you take away you gotta gonna freak out take it easy that's two teaser Thank You game it's just a game I'm kind of is alright um epic reaction epic reactions here let's move on to two gears of war okay here's award for oh god I feel like that wasn't even qualified to be a teaser yeah is really short that's that's what I'm expected to see when I had one like for watching a you know Star Wars teaser or something like I was worse than the doom teaser like a two second clip of like a skeleton like that good death metal single sprite-based ash as well be a JPEG oh it might have been a buster sword ah alright let's move to Gears of War Gears of War I believe this one's yeah this is a minute one all right this one's a admit it long as well I'm expecting intensity it's called tomorrow all right wait I don't eat a chip while this is loading oh wait wait wait no sir no trying to synchronize this already has 2.2 million views wow ok ok digging for digging fire thinking if somebody running horse it's Marcus oh it's that cover he's so strong he's got a family he's killing murder murder wife beautiful lovely child murder murder kill or destroy destroy you you fire oh ki of cute running I'll helping daddy let the tree you monster run carving our names hello I'm just live narrating everything this this is something this is kind of a theme of gears trailers right yeah it's such that there's so much contrast going the juxtaposition between it's the peace and the war a nightmare the nightmare will I weren't ok and that was the sound of silence redone by disturbed I believe yeah the disturbed command I was telling Paul earlier like I feel like they should have just gone with the original song I was I feel like that would be even more of a like you know a contrast between what's going on on-screen able to like that much better and the originals just there's nothing wrong with the original don't don't don't fix it if it's not broken and also because because I knew it was disturbed like every any waking second watching that trailer here's like the sound of sand I'm just waiting for that's all I was waiting for so it kind of threw me out the whole the whole thing let's see what you mean that yeah that's not my favorite cover if I'm being honest it's also a song I really like so it's time for me to appreciate it I mean you got it it's such a good song it is so um but ya know I really like I mean you could see them going for the same vibe that went with the original gears of war trailer with mad world yeah that was a really cool tree that was the best that one of the best trailers game trailers I've ever seen this unless impress truth yeah anyway ok let's continue let's discuss and classic let's discuss something fairly interesting here maybe that was corn nuts corn not disturb does it corn they're the same thing the guy from corn now what r 100 people are Nick you're not the same I I with Kyle on that one earlier I was like wait who's like for covered by that dude he's I guess disturbed I have to look I'm totally and copy out hey no no no it was covered by disturbed but the whole oh that's all right I see what right see you see you shouldn't try to confuse me no one no one would even know the difference Paul didn't know it's because they're the same they are not bands that I follow closely let's put it that way same here you're not my dad tell ah alright let's back to what the hell is about to talk about here I gtc which is a g-force technology conferences going on this week and this was something quite interesting from it right when it was went last week after this is this is an interesting thing that kind of came out of it a little bit more niche little bit more different this is posted I'm road to VR I'm gonna play this video and it's not gonna make a whole lot of sense to you guys so what's going on right now what they're showing here in the video is almost like it there it's like a machine that is moving a display so the machine is moving the display very rapidly you can see the movement of the display by the parts out on top on the bottom this what seems to be a static image represented here in the middle that a video logo is actually moving across the display as the display moves so as to fool you into thinking that it is a static image I won't that make sense no no I thought I just explained that very well how how is it so still though even though it's moving the display the display is moving but the display is also all right consider stuff like with with with head tracking right because this is this is a partial this is very associated with more like the logos moving with the movement so you have a display that's a big company logo is right here and as well as the display moves that way the logo moves across to display that so it perceptibly it's always yes so from the cameras perspective the logo does not know castrate at the center yeah right the reason you just uh can explain yeah no I don't shut up the reason it's it's fascinating the reason they've been doing this is because they're trying to show how imperceptible imperceptible the actual movement is as as this is being shaken and moved around and that can it's definitely imperceptible on this guy's shaky camera phone yeah that's for sure what's also like you know taken from the crowd video taken from the crowd at a conference of a projector you know so bear that in mind too I know all right what is this what the hell are you in look at this is a 1700 hurts refresh rate display 1700 hurts so you got your hundred and forty years man got your hundred and forty-four hurts fanboys out there right who are like man I can't play can't play an FPS any Mona sits on at least hundred forty-four hurts like you know I can't it came and do 69-62 too though right anything under 100 you know you get that elitist mentality whatever no point what's the point but I i apprec appreciate it i can appreciate the high refresh rate affinity it's definitely very helpful for smooth movement not sort of thank you master but the trend i work with here is ways to reduce latency when it comes to to gaming and when it comes to VR in particular i can see it making much more of an impact in VR VR is like motion sickness and things like that and what that you eyes to work with yeah yeah and they've explained it I'm sorry they've they've been working with this in order to help vr headsets do much better and smoother head tracking so that the image displayed on the screen is tracking smoothly with your head to give you a better immersion and to reduce motion sickness and particularly to reduce latency so they're running this display at 17 hundred Hertz refresh rate and they also have it attached to some sort of motion sensors that it can sense the motion of the display as it's moving around and this is just demo that they're setting up with a fixed display but the idea here is that this could port over to being used with with VR or something like that go about the term that they're using here that is is often used in VR as motion to photons latency which is basically referring to the three points of lag on three primary points of lag or latency between when it comes to VR headset that is the detection of the motion of your head wait detection of the input itself which is the input from the motion of your head the rendering of the image done by the game engine to the time it takes to actually illuminate a pixel in a display to represent whatever has been whatever is changing right right now they're working with 20 milliseconds of latency which is is like passable for VR and that's what is going to exist on the VR headsets that are coming right now yeah but they are saying based on their research they've done that things get much better towards 10 milliseconds of latency so you know yeah but in milliseconds is better 20 but there's even measurable benefits down tussles 1 1 millisecond so I guess the point here is that soon enough for Gabe you have people just desk not at 17 hundred megahertz display refresh radiologist and we shouldn't chill outside and cool imagine having to like g-sync that refresh rate on a regular monitor yeah it's obvious it's a very simple image that they're displaying w 200 FPS Oh kind of GPU configuration that would require need 1700 frames per second I keep dipping below the refresher I don't know what's going on into like it's only 1700 verts 4k resolution displays shrunk down to the size of like you know the tune I don't like two inch monitor on our camera there keep that in front of you for any of your face at all times alright let's move on so uh next up is sword fight some wood boy a certified little river uh wait sorry it's not there okay we're good search but you know or not my problem I switched over all comfortably and then there's circuit okay can have sword fights swing your sword with confidence pot the sword fight lower thirds take your soy by the balls okay so certified is where can I take opposing sides on a contentious topic and we argue them and we also let you guys argue amongst yourselves or vote in a straw poll and then we decide who wins at the end mu you can vote right off the bat or you can wait for us and stay tuned arguments state our arguments since we already talked a little bit about broad well II today I made a question based on that how are you gonna ask this question and because it's sword fight we got to decide this and I get asked us all the time this is a question that's asked to meet constantly and I constantly tell people that I can Tran sir it so that's why we're gonna answer it right now then for broad well II we have to to new cpu launches coming to see you're both highly anticipated both supposed to be very high end we've just heard about broad well II being most likely uh what brought what's bread will you wait that's the wrong trouble ye broad well he's gonna have a 69 50x it's 10 cores yeah I mean paste that into chat real quick what's the most corazon is gonna have eight no Zen is gonna have to 232 core 22 32 cores is what they've talked about so far so yeah but Zen is also maybe further off right now we're not getting as many leaks as many updates about yeah then and what's what's going on was then so we're gonna based on vague speculation rumors and inconsistent information we are going to decide this right now what you guys should invest your money in and surely these arguments will stand up to the test of time once these products actually launch prepare for both of us to eat or well you know is this really is gonna give me its is going to give me the option to when people say and next week like should I get Zen or should i wait for Zen i'll be like go watch argument yeah we discussed it all it will be decided to give you a very decisive and okay okay yeah we need the voting link here guess alright one sec i'll paste it in youtube happier than cloquet you know you use slow I already did twitch well I'm on top of every day me Oh Daniel you're just sitting there doing nothing well yeah I'm feeling pretty alright Shoni to my candy i'm looking forward to when it's your half of the show and i mean i can i can just around hey it's exciting I hate you all right so uh which side he gets a cow bra will ya um a lot I'm gonna go the underdog today I'm gonna go as n oh okay I didn't know then was the underdog they totally AMD's totaling the underdog here ok because AMD has they have to prove themselves they've been out of the CPU game at least in the enthusiast market for so long that everyone's looking to them waiting to see if they're going to succeed or flop whereas still make CPUs they still make CPUs but I'm just saying the enthusiast market for the enthusiast market they haven't really made much whereas like Intel's been pumping it out you know pretty consistently Greta they haven't been as consistent as they have in the past because there's no competition on the AMD side for when it comes to enthusiasts great CPUs and I don't think anyone has their doubts about the type of performance we can expect to see from Broadway League I think a lot of people are more interested in seeing how Zen does simply because it has been so long since they came out with a launch like this and you know I think I'm feeling pretty optimistic about it I don't know if it's going to like outperform broad well II you know like if both of their flagship chips go head-to-head I don't know it could be it could be a wash but um you know I don't know I don't know what kind of damage Jim Keller did and over there at AMD before he left you know because he was the one wrapping up all of the the last bits there on the Zen market design architecture and I'm really prepping that for the company before he just bowed out and that makes me nervous because it's like did he bow out because he was like I know that I can't like top this and this is the best work I've ever done like quit while I'm ahead or did he bow out and skip town because he was like this is gonna crash and burn and tank and like this is going to ruin my reputation if I don't get up now I don't know but speculating us to the ladder certainly hurts your argument it does but i'm i'm being fair alright and that and people people value a fair a fair and fairness okay yes and so um you know I I think AMD gets it has gotten a really bad rap over the years just for not pumping out content not content um products looking at this from totally a youtubers perspective certainly um but I am very optimistic and I really do hope that Zen knocks it out of the park because it's going to mean good things for the community and for the customer base as a whole if we can have some more competition against the almighty Intel and kind of like nip at their heels a bit because they've been they've been sitting back on there sipping on their pina coladas for a while now and I think that they need a bit of a wake-up call so hopefully Zen can give that to them okay let explain why you're wrong shut up all right intel bathroom is huge they're like way bigger than AMD and they have a lot more money and where as you might say I will AMD's underdog that's kind of what you led with like they're the underdog I'm gonna root for a morder it's not going to happen mainly because intel has been fooled before you back go back to FX 51 stealing your cookie oh yeah they you should try that series against about FX 51 f x 60 f x 62 back in the lorry days of the FX series with AMD they smacked intel around until had no response say nothing to come back with that's when they first started out tick-tock and and all that stuff that's led us to where we are today and you know what they wouldn't have done what they did just recently and sort of end the whole tick-tock cycle they weren't very confident that they had a strong lead that AMD had nothing to come back with and that's my argument if i were arguing on your side though i would have pointed out 32 cores plus amd's new version of hyper threading equals 64 logical threads which is true pretty but that doesn't that doesn't necessarily mean that's not that it's a small piece to the puzzle about these core count and thread count is is very a small part of the whole picture right that's because I would have said that then you would have said what I just said and you woulda counter that argument we're gonna say we're both wrong people want kb lake it's like as you but bitches in there that's true if you didn't put pitches people wouldn't cares but Zen came in second so is your all Bolger I guess you win this one yay at interesting moving on to our next arguments so VR has some issues going on right now we're going to be discussing a little bit of this over on Kyle's half of the show but oculus oculus rift I I got an email within the past 24 hours indicating that my launch date for the oculus rift is significantly later than I was the original exact thing and yours uh it's the end of may beginning of June okay mine's like the beginning of June okay yeah so yeah that that's very disappointing a lot of people's been upset about them a lot of people have been disappointed about the amount of communication that's come from from oculus yeah and it's a little frustrating there's even I've been you know some troubles over on on the HTC vive side although a lot of people right now are touting the vibe and there's no apparent existing delays and shipments for the vibe as of yet however again on Cal's have the show he will talk about vive pre-orders being cancelled due to payments not going through so not all is shiny and sunny over on that side of it either so here's the question right now you got early adopters who have pre-ordered these devices and some who are getting little upset that you know my new toy hasn't arrived yet that's the glutes be honest that's why I'm at my new toys not here and I told my new toy would be here so I was I was expecting to be knee-deep in VR porn by now exactly what the all this VR born is out there not being watched my setup subscriptions going to waste every minute but here's the question here's the question it's still the first half of the year it's still April no and honestly when it comes to retail sales a lot of retailers you know they care they kind of care but they don't really care till q4 till the end of the year till holiday season until black friday you know when everyone actually spends money on stuff so do you think the companies are worried right now or another way of putting it the way I did here is do you think the consumers will remember these launch issues that are happening I put VR launch walls this is mainly directed at the rift right now because that's who I'm mostly pissed off at but do you think the I do you think the public is going to remember this do you think this will affect them is this going to is going to hurt their sales when the holidays come around I'm gonna say well should I will people remember will you pick first last time so I guess you could pick first again how it works now reversed all the times all right I'll go first this time and i will say i'm gonna say yes i'm going to say we will we will never forgive them we will never forget this salty bro it is be right back cuz i guess all you I'm salty today look what do you here's the problem I have no problem with delays I have no problem with hardware shortages you know it happens those types of issues happen but I think what you had going on here with some decisions to not make communications as transparent as they could have been based primarily on the fact that oculus rift was going up against a very close launch to a competitor which is the their only competitor in and and they're both like the early adopters you know they're both trying to get there first so I feel like oculus over on their side made a business decision at some point to be like hey we got all these pre-orders I don't know I don't know if these are all going to go through i don't know if we're going to have enough units for this or whatever you know to fulfill these within time we we've mentioned it and they knew about it you know these types of things don't just like pop like holy we don't you know we only ordered 200 thousands of these and we need three hundred thousand yeah just like they know about these types of things they made the decision not to communicate it to people and they did that consciously and that sucks because they did that because they're going up against the launch of a competitor pre-orders going out for the HTC vive at the same time and like well if we tell people that were going to be delayed and that they're not going to get their in time people are going to pre-order with us now you're having the opposite the you know the backlash of that of people cancer canceling their pre-orders because they felt they were misled which you know I kind of feel the same way too if I was a standard consumer and I didn't make videos about technology I probably would have canceled my order by now yeah i can say that pretty confidently i bet i screw this i'm going to go off the vibe so yeah I don't remember this and I'm gonna hold against them in the future I'm gonna bring it up I will I will make sure this is remembered i will use all of them by my fairly limited influence on the internet to make sure people don't don't forget this and here's why your reasoning and your argument will be forgotten um it simply is because if you think about the internet and a lot like like how many times like your isp is on you like I can't tell you I can't count on two hands how many times I've been so fed up with time warner cable where I'm just like f this i'm out of here screw you guys and holy crap who else where am I gonna get my internet from that's a monopoly oh crap it is it is a monopoly but what I'm saying right now this is kind of a might be a little bit not necessarily that but at the moment your two main options if you're gaming on a high end pc which most of us are is going to be the rift or the vibe so it's not a monopoly it's not but you don't have that many options as this technology is still super super early and in its infancy so yes they're gonna screw up and yes they're going to piss you off and and not be able to deliver promises that they initially made because how could they they are a single company whether or not they're backed by a bigger company like Facebook or they're just a big company in general with a lot of resources like HTC this is changing the world in a sense and for them to be able to keep all their promises is unrealistic however disappointing it may be um so I think in the grand scheme of things we have to just jump into it you either jump into this crazy dance that's going in or you get out and VR is just not for you and you can't take it I'll wait for next year I'll wait for next year's Christmas when when VR is just mainstream and everyone has one but if you want to be on the bleeding edge of this technology you got to wait it out and you gotta put up with it and by the holidays people are gonna want it they're gonna want to open it it's the new n64 is like your kid opening up that rift headset or that vibe headset and just his mind being blown and parents are gonna give a about the pre-order they're gonna be like my kid won't shut the hell up about BR just give them the sketch bloom I don't care promised you wouldn't yell okay i am now gets very upset about this i'm very passionate that's right being a corporate apologists it tends to piss you off all right let's see what let's see what you guys think about this one all right see the results what do we got we will never never oh you're all traitors we will never forget you're all salty screw yo something pinche oculus and your facebook / ends anyway I'll do a review on it as soon as it arrives ah ok that look at those Cup look at those cook picture those cupcakes oh that's right there ah it used to look so pretty it did a dragon or blue yeah I have one last segments and that is a I'm really I'm really out of order this this week it's all right it's right Logan I think we've made good time yeah anyway we're gonna do a little Q&A session here to kind of round out my half of the show sure and that means if you guys have questions you should ask them so we're gonna look at chat right now chat now we're going to answer questions that are asked in a timely and appropriate fashion looking for questions they must contain all answer some shitty questions well they have to contain substance some amount of profanity I feel like yeah i mean at tasteful a tasteful what colors you paint what would be the best cpu and GPU for an eight hundred dollar budget 800 bucks i was you i would say x i would spend our 380 x i'd spend a hundred fifty to two hundred on the on the cpu and about 300 on the graphics card i would say forty percent of your budget should go towards the video card and maybe twenty-five percent should go to the cpu and then figure out the rest yeah yeah and you notice we don't tell you get this GPU because those prices always change yeah and you should figure out how much money you're gonna spend on that part so that's why I usually you know ki kind of get arranged for the CPU choose the CPU right then kind of figure out how much it I got I got for the GPU after that room um yeah should i overclock my i5 6600 k yes you should Zach yes you should I spent a lot of today overclocking my wife's 6600 k unless you have a potato handler end Owen let's get a potato cool that would suck but you can you should be able to hit for 45 to 46 like fairly easily on a 6600 I was really pushing for 47 today and I was having some stability issues that were very untimely I might still be able to tweak some stuff but um at what I'm probably just going to do is run it for six for the pre water-cooled numbers yeah and then put on although cuz I just I was tweaking and stuff and I was like I don't want to spend all this time doing this when I'm just going to be removing the cooler and everything and installing a liquid cooling loop right and then you know I want to I want to do the same thing again at that so yeah true and anyway what did why didn't you wait for Pascale for your wife spilled why do you do like a water-cooled Pascal system is when Pascal comes out i will do a build for myself water cool maybe I am going strong with the water guy why not it's fun Paul's two cents over here it's fun stuff I like it it's good it's good time hey I'll probably do somewhat the same thing when it comes yeah I mean yes that's that's why we're in this game is to build computers what else yeah doesn't matter for make sense or not Paul would you say use an old pc ivory dancing but would you use an old pc for an ass or buy used server boards for ECC ram and ped thank you for the question this is on Twitch by the way and I so I have been advised by my friends at tech syndicate mainly Wendell who knows much much more than anyone i think in the world about these things now there's probably there's probably people that are has like two people there's people there in his level but not many and i was advised yes you want ECC for a freenas in particular but if you're doing a home set up that you can live without it it's it's more of a concern to have enough memory you notice to have the ec straight standard yeah so if you've already got an old computer and it's kind of good to go then you know sure go ahead and and and and build with it if you have the option or if you're investing in new parts and stuff then I'd say yes consider getting a xeon or server chip and a server board or a you know a mainstream board that support server chips and go for you go for the ECC right yeah uh Brandon is my cpu too shitty I've got an FX 6300 black edition and an msi r9 390 well I only get about 30 FPS in GTA 5 on normal graphic settings yes that is all your CPU yeah that's all your cpu's fault and none of your GPUs fault the r9 390 is a kick-ass card I did a recent video on one on the Sapphire Nitro and it kicks ass you just need a decent CP to match with it 6300 is for its not well-matched at all with the 09 3 90 is it overclocked um even if it's over clocks I mean if it's if it's not you could overclock it and I'd probably it would help a little bit yeah but at the the day it's not a girl it's not a fantastic overclocking chip and at the end of the day the game if you're playing GTA 5 or games like it that's super CPU intensive and that actually does make a hell of a difference even going from like sky lake to haswell-e in that game which many people might not think is a huge difference in game performance but you'll see like a good five seven frames on average in a game like GTA 5 anyway where it takes a you know advantage of those cores and stuff so yeah it's probably time to upgrade your whole you know motherboard you know chipset and socket type and cpu and things like that but you have a solid root graphics cards and that's one of the most expensive part so you're good on that so yes there you go um what else we got I I don't know I thought I had a question then it went away things scroll too fast sometimes I agree um I almost didn't Big Big Boss Big Boss Man 0816 thank you for the donation he says he says hello world hi hello world so nice he said it twice say the world says hello right back at you twice big boss man hello hello hello it just just like just like what's-his-face from you too I mean you too yeah concert seconds is slightly before my generation know that song isn't really yeah I don't know know where I would have heard that song though you've heard it radio it's you too they put it on like devices then you get like without your consent and stuff like that this your auto read ring down III 1231 v three vs 6600 k for gaming good question is on you I would go with this is on twitch I would go with the 6600 k because you'll have better per thread performance if your don't doing something that's purely multi-threaded than your III whatever 13 12 31 well that's the one that's like a 4770 I report 40 yeah 40 770 it's got 8 4 cores eight threads so yeah you will get more performance there but yeah I got the 6600 if you're going strictly gaming it should have better direct gaming performance and right it's newer uh to just really quick whoever's asking if they can submit a pc to booted if they have one mustard cable in their system that's fine go for it I might I probably won't knock you for one mustard cable but is it Dijon mustard but you're on thin ice you're on thin ice sir or like spicy brown mustard is that would be a benefit yeah dejohn mustard I am more accepting of so I like to choose your mustard cables by sight I like the spicy brand okay uh it's about that time guys so we're gonna end my half of the show but if you're watching live don't go anywhere cuz we will be back in just a moment with Kyle's half of the show if you're watching on YouTube then you're going to need to go over to Kyle's channel mm-hmm there will be a link in the description if you're watching on twitch stay right where you are because we're just going to keep twitch stream going thank you guys all so much for watching this half of the show though I promise next week i will have more things planned because i felt like everyone loved the cupcakes hey the cupcakes section if it if it chooses the cupcake maybe usually to bring more cupcakes maybe that could be loose everything you've set the bar I need need more options more cupcake options we could turn this into like a cooking show you know we make the those their shows their shows completely based around making cupcakes yeah cake wars so I've Cupcake Wars is one of them did you write it is and that now that you said the name I've heard of it feel bad though okay it's an amazing show all right a very talented thanks a lot again guys if you're watching on YouTube in the future you know click all those buttons like button and everything down there like it it's fun to do yep and you guys later won't see you in a bit yep see you soon all right back