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Awesome Hardware #0079-B: Zen Chipsets, GTX 1050 & 1050 Ti Rumors

2016-09-27
that you would give him one personally you didn't deliver one of what missed opportunity oh this is the worst tweet ever that's things are misspelled okay letters that shouldn't be capitalized or capitalized going like that thanks to a shirt a little what is it with what do you call that Lincoln another squiggly line tilde the tilde tilde tilde tilde tilde yeah use that I might know that Pedro Marz it's just titled Mars we were out of time how do you think we started on tight no it's good it's good we're outside okay hey if we're going to welcome to awesome hardware this is the live show Kyle and I do it every tuesday evening at five-thirty p.m. pacific time and we split the show in half so the first half of this episode which is episode number 79 has already been broadcast on Kyle's channel which is big wit or awesomesauce news I mean if you want to type it no no just but with justjust only bit with we don't speak of that name anymore we are now on the second half which is on my channel awesome or false oh god Paul is hardware hey just in case you're wondering yes I've had a few drinks normally I tried it we both have I try to keep things you know I try to have some semblance of normalcy on my half of the show but really this one might be a little messy so let's start off by thanking joshua h for your five dollar donation you need to build for pc for someone and muse for mass storage and gopro editing a good cpu GP combo eight hundred dollar over overall budget I don't know I get a 6400 or 6500 skylake processor and I mean other x 480 let it be good if you're if you're with an eight hundred dollar budget he says mass storage and like GoPro video editing see an RX 484 because why not doesn't matter that's the only thirty dollars jeez also my tank you for your ten dollar donation keep up the good work we will we definitely will why do we have no donation or or link on our twitch channel because we also broadcast live to twitch TV / awesome hard work and we are 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with these chipsets on the am for platform so what are these chipsets mean thank you for asking that question Kyle I can answer that right now all right so there's the X 370 the be 350 and the a320 partly the best the xc70 is the best one good as I'm getting that's right at the top that's the high-end one that one will allow you to do overclocking everyone will also allow you to do multi GPU rendering so if you want a crossfire or sli configuration you will want that one it's got two full by 16 PCI Express slots that is gen 3 we've been waiting for the gen 3 you know on an AMD said so that's cool yeah and then beyond the X 370 we also have the be 350 and a 320 so this slide we're looking at right here is actually covering those this is the mainstream segment specifically the the a320 outside the be 350 is mainstream then the a320 is more small form factor or budget and all of these sort of more detailed specs are listed right here this is a guru 3d article by the way so compatible 7th gen AMD AP use by H gen 3 so you're not going to get as much PCI Express bandwidth but you will be able to support at least a single graphics card from md or nvidia that will that be enough for that to jail ddr4 it's also got USB 3.1 as well as 3.1 3.1 gen2 3.1 gin and two point oh this is mainly going to give you 4 3.1 gen 1 ports I would imagine the 3.1 gen2 ports would be reserved for the ex 370 chipset for storage you have to say de tu nvm me or to say to and tooth pcie of course the chipset provides a certain number of lanes and available connections and then it's up to the motherboard manufacturer to actually decide how they want to set stuff up so more specifically for the be 350 for USB support two plus two plus six is what you get for 3.1 gen2 3.1 gem 1 and 2 point 0 2 plus 1 on SATA and say to express but plus 6 more lanes of pcie gen2 connectivity so if you're looking at santa connectivity in like wow that's not very menace many SATA ports they have all these extra gen 2 lanes to add more Santa connectivity to the board so you probably get additional ones of those beyond the stata express and they do support say to raid 0 1 and 10 so I couldn't imagine say to say to our raid 10 support for example on a you know with two available ports that one may you have sense so probably most motherboards are going to have more than that but it's up to them so you know if they want to if they want to push more of these lanes over to nvme or something like that they can what I'm curious oh yeah go ahead I was just gonna say a320 which is more of a budget chipset for small form factors will have a little bit less connectivity only one USB 3.1 gen2 port and only forge four lanes of gin to support for additional general purpose connectivity so but still say to say to read support as well so nice to know they could get that raid support I was gonna I was going to say I wonder if since the a320 chipset is is intended for small form-factor boards if if the X 370 chipset is still going to be offered in mini ITX varieties I would have to say yes I hope so yeah I mean I'm that's a guess I would guess yes yeah I mean a320 being specifically geared toward small form factor is just gonna be like look it's small form factor because they don't need any additional space for anything beyond what they're putting in there yeah you don't need the space for a graphics card because you're directly you know you have that be an APU or something like that so you don't need the extra connectivity for the extra stuff that's in there so yeah I mean that'd be my guess for the a320 but yeah x3 70 chipset in a mini ITX motherboard yes hopefully we'll also see that as well because there's going two people be people who want to build a high ends you know gaming system with in a toaster yeah with the name DS n processor and a vega GPU pref will be in a mini ITX form factor i really hope they have support for something like that view our real quick flare storm 99 thank you for your daughter donation did I get your package ah maybe I haven't checked my p.o box in a week or so so maybe it's in the p.o box but i'll double check it again soon but thank you for sending me your package anyway a couple more slides here just to show really quick they are noting that the actual wattage that's that's drawn by the different chipsets that they have made in the past has been improved upon so the be 350 chips at least we'll draw 5.8 wats versus their other chipsets such as the 970 which draw up to 19.6 watts so when it comes to power consumption and lower heat generation which isn't something you'd usually consider when you're talking about a chipset you know but I mean that's just a little improvement and then if you're looking at the last generation to current generation if you're comparing what's what 990fx and 888 X on the am3+ and FM two platforms respectively we'll both be replaced by AMD x3 7970 and a 7 eight will be your place by the MDB 350 and the 760 G and a 68 h will be replaced by the a320 sounds good they have no equivalent in the small form-factor area though so aim dxb a 300 so maybe they will have an even lower end chipset beyond this for small form factor yeah that will maybe go towards like pre-built systems or integrated solutions or something like that cool so there's a little bit more information on amd's upcoming chipsets now the one thing I did notice from this that out that I was specifically looking for was zen exclusivity did I enunciate that properly you need to help me out here Kyle I fell too much to drink no yeah you did well on that then exclusivity George is something that we were hoping would not be a thing because it would suck to say like you can only fit a sin processor in the x 37 x 370 chips that motherboards yeah you know so yeah that's the remains to be seen I'm sure there might be connectivity and exclusivity and compatibility that's where I'm looking for there might be compatibility limitations in the future still but at least from what we've been shown so far that doesn't seem to be the case that's cool although overclocking that's what I was going to say is why would someone get his in-processing with a non overclockable so might just see a thing where like the Zen processors are all all unlocked which AMD has done in the past they've often touted that as being like you can overclock any Andy processor all the way down to the hundred-dollar chips so they might say that yeah you can you can overclock any am DS n processor even the budget ones that we come out with with fewer cores or that kind of thing but you need the extra 70 chipset for that definitely seems like they're following the Intel model yeah with which I mean which has worked to some degree yeah although it has made the cooler stuff more expensive which yeah you know what can even bound to happen all right next up we've got what the GeForce GTX 10 city and 1050 TI as teased here on the video cards com website so basically we have some specs that elite we also have some frequencies that have leaked these are all rumors these are rumors and speculation it's probably all it's all fake and none of nobody should listen to anything we say right now but if it is true we have a new GPU at GP 107 GPU which is different than the GPU 10 for example for example in the GP what is it the 1066 we got to yeah so the GP 107 has at minimum 768 cuda cores but possibly less than that if you go down to the GTX 1050 according to hardware battle the website where a lot of information came from both of these cards should launch next month the 1050 TI should be first in mid-october and the non TI standard 1050 will be further at least a little bit later at the end of october bench life also posted some actual so based on the specs on the coup de coeur count of the tenth idiom fitty and TI these are probably going to be competing with the RX 416 470 i would imagine right this is india's response to those two low end card let's entry-level much of the bench life website is in chinese because it is a chinese website she's an anticipated sorry yeah so this these would be mainly competitors for lease on the AMD side the we're sick for 64-62 gig for 64 gig for 70s a little bit more expensive so I feel like the 1062 gig is kind of AMD's 3d Oh what the 1063 gig there's no 1063 gig I thought it was three kings that is a four gig on a two gig GTX 10 secs 1060 yeah I'm sorry I think that's right I hope of that's right I know nothing I've been drinking it could be wrong get Celebi right did you look that up right now the 1050 and 1050 I rumored three gigs you noob what well 1060 is three and six gigs yeah I've been drinking is true you get two of those hard cider your ear ear out Cal thank you for correcting me so that's why we have two people here that's right the girl you do the same for me google translate girl your girl go to trans date shouldn't lead to drunkenness the Chinese ink why there's a three gig and a six gig for the 1060 okay at least my fundamentals were correct though yes because fundamentally I was thinking you were thinking if it were like I can prove it you with your like 1070 of the 1080 what's your eight gig cards mm-hmm they couldn't cut an eight gig card down to six gigs or down to three gigs make it all kind of eight gig 24 right that's suing yes that's a formula in basement library had in short I had fundamental correctness in my thinking this is the worst you dig in the words I've got deeper that's all right let's go back to the story we were talking about and distract everyone from what anything else let this be a lesson to all of you to never drink hard cider yeah that's a bad idea as Barry cider don't do it all right this is a PSA for all of you so the Pascal GP 107 based 1050 hands 1050 TI if they actually exist based on the charts here on video cards com 1050 will have a 2gig frame buffer the 1050 TI will have a four gig frame buffer and according to hardware battle the website also linked to this article both cards will launch next months TI the first mid-october in non TI tienen month bench life has posed clock speed post to clock speeds of these cards beads right here or you can click on the bench life actual article 1050 TI will run it 1290 base clock and 1382 megahertz boosts clock the 1050 will be faster than that from a megahertz standpoint 1354 base 1455 boost and on both cards will feature a 128-bit memory interface and a 75 watt TDP okay all that sounds reasonable and sounds legit legit well I'm hoping for good things I don't know I don't know so is this probably gonna perform on par with like a GTX 10 there I'm sorry like a 960 or maybe I have no idea probably like nine sixty i do not know but for way less money face he sees it is a higher base yeah i really don't know yeah my speculation in that area is not my forte at least that one I've been drinking so yeah well and it's for video cards com video card everything you read on that site should be taken with a grain of salt is that vibe a rumor and too much point in speculating it next story here nissan has been using is its automotive AI technology to create self queuing chairs why are you laughing about this is awesome mmm he's okay you shut up shut your mouth this is the pro pilot chair program look at this video watch this video here have you um how often have you been sitting down thinking to yourself man I don't want to get up this is PSG right now all the times here to that guy these Pro pilot chairs use autonomous vehicle technology oh my god it's Wally coming true yeah so so the same technology that Nissan has been developing to use in its automated ours like self-driving cars the chairs can now detect and sense the movements of the chairs next to them as well as move accordingly maintaining a fixed distance along the queue and then they can also go back and restart oh my god are you serious so that Ike's mark chair you've reached an all new low an all-time low of how lazy we are where we need oughta me at fairs Jewish that's the chair which is call itself out under the table for you to sit down on are you tired of pulling the chair out from under the table yourself super annoying let's see what this one Wyatt this is no that looks like it would give me motion sick like so quickly no I wouldn't like how are you gonna like read your tablet or whatever the on up your own pilot chair you're wrong these are you Donald Trump you're wrong just write code I grow and Robin just right now they have no reintroduce the pro pilot chairs and in a pilot program you might say ah with certain actual establishments in Japan for queuing outside of the establishment but they say they'll get plenty of real-world testing across Japan this year as they allow business owners to expand and tweet a request to apply for a loan for a set of chairs so you can tweet you get the chairs what I'm curious about is when you tweet to the chairs do the chairs just arrived by themselves they just roll up and like line up in front of your establishments and just become self-aware and kill your family yeah that's awesome also concern is chairs knowing who they are and who you are what if you have my shotguns yeah so that's that's a difficulty but I'm excited about this new technology and not having to stand as I wait in line I mean I think it's important linked dust thank you for your donation thank you for your concern that I should stop drinking so much I really actually probably part of the reason this is affecting me so much as is this is Tuesday is my drinking night good I have not drank at all this entire week I the last time I drank was when you saw me drinking honest I only drink or use a hardware one we only drinks for you guys what do you think if Nvidia randomly decided to give the 1050 TI and non sli option but no but not 1060 if you could that would be really i really doubt they will do that there's no point the 1050 TI having sli support whereas the 1060 not having sli support people just buy a 1070 would make no sense so I really don't think that would happen but thank you for your donation um ok scary chairs off the list yep next we've got some sims 6pc requirements yes indeed 66 it's already that time final news story here from hexa stuff net by the way thank you buddy Chris for the ten dollar donation yesterday thank you Chris I will drink more i'll make sure it's gonna get us wasted it's waiting so 6 i'm excited about sub 6 are you excited about 76 cal i honestly have not invested enough time to civ 5 to be excited about 66 i'll be honest i thought you were like down the civ 5 right idea i haven't lately you played it for a while I've enjoyed many hours of civ 5 yeah but I have not played it to the extent that you have which I've actually never finished a game in civ 5 that's okay you definitely have not played as much as I have that no I have no civ5 I actually was so excited about 66 that i played through a sieve five-game a couple weeks ago and it ate up a bunch of my free time you're mad I I want to play I started a fresh game of civ 5 like on a 13 hour flight I didn't I felt like I barely got halfway through the game it's incredibly tense ridiculous I don't know how you have the time okay so do it Sims six is rewriting and everyone should play it but the minimum specs are actually pretty minimal the minimal I would imagine able minimum specs a stone the so many Intel skylake chips for example with HD 530 graphic should be able to comfortably play the game that means if you have a laptop or an ultra-compact with a sky like chip in it you will probably be able to just place of six maybe not with the highest graphical settings available but the minimum requirement is at i 3 2.5 gigahertz for a phenom to 2.6 gigahertz now I take issue with them just saying a core i3 because I three covers many many different generations of Intel processors and they're not all equivalent you know but anyway for gigs of RAM 12 gigs of hard drive space one gig Direct X 11 video card or a AMD 5570 or nvidia 450 equivalent so minimum requirements are actually again maybe pretty minimal so lots of people should be able to play this game even if you don't have a high-powered gaming PC recommended requirements are a fourth-generation or aka Haswell 2.5 gigahertz processor or an AMD 8354 gigahertz processor which is still pretty minimal still pretty minimal under under 150 dollar yeah like a 4th gen 2.5 gigahertz like digs pretty far down any port in the Haswell stackin but AMD 8354 gigahertz is actually pretty I don't know it seems like the Andy requirements are higher than the non AMD requirements I guess that's what I'm saying a gigs are more of ram 12 gigs are more of hard drive space 2 gig directx 11 card or the equivalent of an AMD 7970 or in india 770 which is significantly since significantly higher than the minimum specs it's now much more significantly I can enunciate you did but still not quite dad but what yeah anyway that's that's not bad I mean the fact that you can run the game and I'm just not gonna finish that sense that that those requirements I mean it's not taxing at all so that's good I mean it's not like you really need anything more than 30 FPS consistently for a game like so 5s 06 it's not a first person shooter it's in case you guys aren't aware it's like a top-down strategy game so really frame rates and all that sort of thing aren't really too important boom 25th anniversary edition of sub 6 will be available this weekend that is a retail product limited to 20,000 copies so um you know if you're into like oh my god there's only gonna be feel these robots by one sorry think all the dogs and they hit the camera that's really good my wife is home good lord dogs will come down shortly if you happen to buy the anniversary edition eight includes everything that you would get with a digital deluxe edition plus the Aztecs a 25th anniversary coin set a display case 100-page hardcover artbook entitled civilization through the years and especially themed packaging Wow if you're not into specially themed packages then just wait for civilization 6 to actually launch which is October 21st like 3-4 weeks yep a lot of games launched in october yeah or years of war for yeah it's it's almost like q4 and end of q3 is popular time to launch products hot seat yep but are you on you can also pre-order but nobody should do that baby appeared nori shut up okay dog let's move on to the next segment which which Kyle's all right this is hailing late know what I'm saying I'm really not doing a good job of hosting the show today you're doing great you're doing a thank-you job thank you guys hard to get up here in front of a camera in front of thousands of people actually I'm overestimating ourselves in front of hundreds of people hundreds of people uh and try to rehearse things in a rear sight it's okay the news it is difficult it's D'Amelio that I shouldn't have drink nearly as much alcohol as a drink on your half of the show but damn face off hot heavy hardware let's talk about stuff let's do it all right what are we go starting with the razors new Death Adder elite would write another elite product the Death Adder elites yet the theme for hot and heavy hardware today is elite because there's so much elite pneus going at so alright that's an article on PC world that you guys can read about this that was just a rehash there's also a razor website on it that you know has much more dramatic photography dipped in tinton contingent basis confusing fence look at the omron switches oh look at that close-up shot of part of a mouse one of the buttons you click alright so the deathadder is one of the most popular gaming money since its release in 2006 it's crazy if you don't believe me they'll behold behold the deathadder this is a Death Adder you get a day 2006 and i'm using no it's not that old 30 2010 this is the 3500 DPI version from there's no a year on this they usually don't pretty sure i get 2009 edition or substance till seven year old now still holding up though but they're the Death Adder gets a lot of props because it is one of the most popular gaming license this release is a classic scooped shape with two big thumb buttons the forward and back buttons that I like to use there and it's also got a scroll wheel sweet wheels are good you might look and be like oh that's pretty standard you know it closed it mainly the shape that's mine that's taking it to critical acclaim that's probably part of it but it's also they've always used really high quality switches and it really had quality sensor so it's always just been the type of mouse super at you plug in and use and the reason that i often use it for my traveling my mouse is that often when i plug it into like motherboards with finicky bios's or that kind of thing he like the motherboard do it's like oh we have mouse support in the bios so then you try to use a mess and it's like flipped upside down or something like that yeah just this mouse has for me at least have the most consumer like oh I can just use the mouse of the bios and that kind of thing it's just it's a simple design but it's also very elegant and they seem to have done a very good job with it so of course they're releasing the new version and people would buy it spend more money on it this is not a new elite version of the deathadder this will actually replace the Death Adder chroma so the deathadder chroma that's been available for the past year or two will no longer be available huh and now you will be instead be able to buy the Death Adder elite sighs I mean there's no chrome alighting on this thing no that does not mean that it still has the same features as the chromosomes eagle has RGB lighting it also has the new razor omron switches or a razor mechanical mass witches that they developed with Imran Imran is kind of that kind of I don't like the companies do that well I like when companies pair with like switch companies and like make their own versions of the switches but I'm Ron is this is it very widely like established just like just kind of the gold standard budget but it's like if razor would have liked go to cherry and like make the proprietary cherry switch just for razor products they wouldn't do that it's too expensive I mean I guess that's kind of like what corsair do with the rapid fire the silent at the silent MX may but that's still going to be released on other keyboards in the future not exactly but there's a bug is a buggy go away jerem do feel again geeing him a few worry now you got your ching ching ching ching ching alright sir alright so other than these specially designed armor on switches also includes the the new razor 58 practical sensor good your husband's drunk the facts just saying with the facts DPI have 16,000 16,000 good look at no.6 i could not have been business anymore well timed oh no this is the hep I just need to drink some water is that wander okay yes water checking to see if it was over here I can't help you here I'm you're right maybe I could um see ya did a razer deathadder you already said it's got a 5g optical sensor no that's what i was trying to say was it as a 5g optical sensor with the max api have 16,000 does I'll just fill in the blanks of whatever you can't say and the tracking speed of 450 inches per second oh my gosh she shut your mouth I'm dead looking rib okay okay I can fix this all right just just wash it down with some wash it down with some gin Paula's left the good thing everyone hiccupping his way out the exit door yes Paul is lettuce it was true but he's returneth water he's gonna he's got the in the bag yo oh my goodness this more side are you have a five dollar donation from Stephen for more cider we'll probably not happen to thank you very much even for the donation cells dying mods are falling off like flies I'm sorry dropping like flies I'm sorry oh boy hey yeah that one time cider over entire ship so if this doesn't work then I'm what okay here's a good here's a good segue what's your method for curing hiccups drink you drink water upside down that's what I do and that seems to work for you do that too yes but if that doesn't work I have another solution for you really yes if that doesn't work which always helps ok upside-down thing doesn't work so try it out drinking water upside down work works for me like ninety-nine percent of the time there's like twice that that hasn't worked and that's what I've truly screwed okay means like I've been in that state that that means tomorrow is done like I'm I should that plan it nothing will have a Shetty all right so um you take the glass of water and you put your mouth on the far side of the glass then just kind of lean on oh okay makes sense and how upside down do you actually go you're like doing a handstand or you just do it like that straight up like that interesting my pop filters a little frame might be oh that's your pop filter might not have mattered might be screwed at all right away is that a hiccup are there no I don't know I can't tell sometimes it takes a couple attempts okay mfp screen okay uh uh make yourself cough a little bit but usually I'm site sister okay you guys all right shy Cohen thank you for your dog oh okay I'm gonna do it one more time I do over time and then see I'll tell you my secret it's actually you have a secret let's okay it's not really a secret because everyone it's pretty common but I feel like people just do it incorrectly I see ya let me all right you just do your thing guys in chat do you think Paul will ever cure his this case of the hiccups or do you think he'll cure them by the end of this episode let us know i'll get probably not my my guess is no at this point how does i feel but also i can't tell your burping from the water or if that those are Hickox cat I'm kind of in the same I don't know either aashiq okay so here's what I do I hold my breath for as long as possible now yes that's very obviously right duh yeah but the way I do it is you have to inhale as much air as you possibly can you have to take the deepest breath you've ever taken in your life and then hold it for as long as possible I feel like most people just as long as they like hold their breath they just try it for like 30 seconds or whatever and they exhale ago it didn't work you actually have to like take the deepest inhale inhalation you can and hold it for as long as you possibly can and that's usually when it works for me even above the the upside down drinking thing really really pack it in really oh alright you're a lost cause I'm sorry yeah I'm sorry I can't help you I can't help you at that point I usually watch for me it's probably fit guys you have any other suggestions in chat honestly here lost cause at this point all right we should just roll on to the next story maker week but by a definitely right now it's a do it now oh god but all right this next story i have extensive notes on and i'm sure i'm going to be able to get through them easily this is the this is anna mantech article no why is everything is really kiss knighting more it's not fair becoming more attune they're becoming more like strategic like oh yes how many comic timing is becoming before this is letting me shut the up but this is really bad oh my god i feel i'm so glad hiccups aren't contagious cuz how horrible would that be if you get ready and we're you hey Paul baby would get why don't you cut soon this is a thermoelectric cooler thermo I don't know what else to say about it it's the next two point oh it's got two metallic plates when current is applied one side he heats up the other cycles cpu cooler but that's this med this method of cooling was and i can't even fill in the blanks to help you out because i think us are so stretchy look they're happy happening more frequently now it was like every 30 seconds now they're like every five seconds like somethings closing in on you eventually that's all it's gonna be as hiccups over the next 20 minutes I'm stuffing oh my god people are crying in China everybody sec someone saying eat peanut butter drinking vinegar be really just telling you to eat all kinds of haters ok that's terrible if it's doing all these terrible ideas a cold shower hot coffee yeah he's just gonna do all these things right now guys on stream let's take a shower while drinking coffee and peanut butter hey straight Barry surfers yes let's go to strippers hey oh my god I think you're cured me right just from the sound of that nope no damn okay we're gonna need to bring him in here's what I think we should do I think I think we should go to QA QA what do you think good yeah your answers will be a lot more effective at Nick you a guys I'm sorry we can save short fight for neck we had more stuff to talk about yeah I you you're watching as just this is as good as it's gonna get it's not like I'm in coherently drunker Eddie no it's not just that I have you can't physically touch rollable pickups to keep happening so it's the Q&A we're gonna answer some questions for you guys and hopefully and this stream in a somewhat dignified fashion you know you know there's some guy named Charles Osborne who is I meant eight the end of the 1802 hiccupped for total of sixty eight years straight well good yeah it could be how longest said to pick up you you might actually be breaking his world record you don't even know yeah she's a piece of mind huh what're witter bits said he donated on YouTube but my hiccups cause the message message to be ignored I'm sorry Witter bits if we miss them I'm star I in the corner just crying a quarter now honestly I don't even think anyone's going to ask questions at this point they're just too focused on you hiccupping they're just offering more solutions of how to stop hiccups and someone said try pornhub hold my breath and swallow just a bunch of pornhub yeah that's a 970 still a good card yes try to be set record it's still a very good car yeah it's fine it's perfect for maxed out 1080 gaming no problem what's your opinion on the fantex p 400s i had the privilege of building in one of those four system config the last episode i did for the client jason he really likes it so far i followed up with him he's in love with it I think it's a really nice case it's super easy to build in and for the price point it has a lot of a lot of quality features for a case of that range that price range Jay thank you very much for the five dollar donation not tasty sense I'll hold your breath will drink water 246 have another do we that we we he's a lost cause guys don't even don't even try to help them at this point their breath while drinking water how do i how can you do that aren't aren't you forced to hold your breath while your water because you can't breathe while you're drinking water yeah it's like you're forcing yourself to drown as the upside down drinking of water usually solves it for me like I said so I don't know I think I'm screwed someone said sugar works sugar spoonful of sugar helps perfect perfect working modern monarchy perfect perfect 1440p 144 first card 1070 I would say yeah yeah I agree with that see 1060 instead of 480 they trade blows right now 1060 overall is the faster card but i would say give it a year or two and maybe that's not the case may be direct x 12 and things like Vulcan those those newer api's will have the 480 ahead of the 1060 but also in one or two years you might just be looking for a new card at that point so just I don't know if you just want the pier faster card for what the games are currently then maybe that I'd say the 10-6 use the faster card overall but okay you know reference reference and stuff Dave wha three said what are your thoughts on 191 hurts gaming monitors but i will say having gamed it 100 hertz 120 hertz an hundred and forty forty more for hurts that my experience at least I 100 Hertz g-sync monitor has been good to the point where 120 140 hurts hasn't seemed like something I should go for so cranking it all the way up to 180 or 200 Hertz seems less useful to be but because if the end of it you're probably gonna be paying more money for that too maybe because I mean for sure because how many 191 hurts monitors do you see these days and so it's like the first of its kind has a few coming out center two hundred two hundred dollars 200 Hertz Oh Turner yeah but I mean it's still like the it's a numbers game at this point like first it was resolution and then it was response time and now it's refresh rate like that's the new numbers game that that monitor manufacturers are playing so if they can come out with the monitor that's 200 Hertz that's obviously way higher than 144 hurts they're going to put a premium on that and is that premium going to be worth the visual difference that that the common average gamer is going to going to be able to tell coming from 144 hurts 200 Hertz is going to be worth that 150 200 dollar premium that you pay that's too I don't is a question that the person is it asking it's it's a personal thing some people can tell the difference in people can't I thought my thought is once you get up into the mid 100 Hertz 100 250 Hertz range I feel like you're you're appreciable t of the higher refresh rate does start to fall off it's a whole other angle to uh damn is it cold what's that thing called a diminishing value by a diminishing marginal utility yes they're fishing merging it's an economic turn whatever linked dusts thank you for your dollar donation would we consider a life a live stream where we both picked parts privately then build your own computer simultaneously and then test them in the end to see who's has better performance that since one sounds cool sounds difficult to do live that would take like four hours or more unless we have like a multi too much going on yeah I mean if you're giving you a couple hour one to two hours to build a system gotta get like windows installed on it get everything everything up to date and then extra run benchmarks I'm just saying doing that all live would be there big good amount of downtime where you're just like sitting way for windows to install or something like that right right yeah unless you already had windows installed on the drive and you already the motherboard drivers installed on the drive you are to assemble the Riggin you disassembled it to only to reassemble it again for the stream itself that could work and we can have a split screen like you on the left me on the right and we could each be in our own corners of the room not being able to see what else is going on on the other person's end it'd be kind of cool we'll think about it I could be fun no other questions are we getting all of our donations someone's that they gave 40 bucks an hour ago and it didn't show it maybe not because I have not seen any forty dollar donations 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