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LGA 1150 LGA 1155 those are the mainstream sockets these are the enthusiast sockets which usually have more pins to that ends this article which is derived it's a WCC F Tech article which is derived from a bench life that info article as they so often are in preparation for the 2017 this is translated from Chinese by the way until skylake x processors begin to send samples so according to this sampling has already begun cool I don't have one no I don't I'm going to have to try to get one yeah but yeah if this is true then the high-end sky like X and KB like X processes will be launching in the second quarter of 2017 which to me means Computex Jun Jun is within the second quarter and that is often when new launches happen and hey I am never going to complain about some high ends desktop stuff being launched at Computex nope but bench life goes on to give a few details about these processors at least both the KB like X and skylake X processor lines will be based on 14 nanometer architecture much like the skylake and KB like mainstream counterparts for either series but KB like X since it is the newer one will feature a more optimized chip design the that the KB like X has only four cores K series processors that's kind of interesting so newer more refined design but only four core processors do you think that's going to mean like a price point between KB lake and scale like X I don't know it certainly seems like kind of a meeting of the two of these because normally the high end desktop stuff from Intel is derived primarily from sort of a continuing alongside the like Z online like that's usually what it what it falls in line with and and like the desktop stuff the mainstream stuff it kind of does its own thing enthusiasts stuff will usually you know fall in line a little bit before a little bit after the Zeon or the work station counterparts for it so but I don't know right now it seems like we might be seeing sort of a coming together a confluence if you will emerging a bumping of uglies it yes like a sexual intercourse relating in at some sort of freakish hybrid offspring mmm intercourse that's put too fine a point on it um but yeah but KB like x4 core processors with a 95 watt TDP but being on this high-end desktop line which is going to feature x2 99 chipset the x2 99 chipset and LGA 2066 socket motherboards which is all very new very very new stuff we haven't heard about that before any of the continuing along with what the article reveals further here down below skylake X which seems is going to be more capable I mean if if skylake X is what's going to have the multi-core processors and KB like X is going to have just quad-core skylake X although it won't be as refined will have 140 watt TDP 10 8 and 6 core versions as well as three other options but the number of PCIe channels will be different so skylake x pcie 3.0 maximum channels will be 44 that is up for that's for more than what we currently have on Bradwell e 44 but that's limited only to the 10 core version which who knows is I'm scared as to how much that's going to retail for though going to cost $1,700 what if it's like $2,500 now for like a 15% is it just going to keep getting more expensive it's terrifying I don't know but they are we're told there will also be an 8 core sky like X although they were not able to determine the number of PCIe channels for that one and then there's a six-course guy like X will have which will have a maximum of 28 PCIe gen3 lanes so still pretty solid it does seem like they're continuing to use PCI Express Lanes to differentiate the chips in this line but I thought there was a chart down here here's a chart anyway the WCC F Tech article does have a chart down here that kind of lists what we know at least as far as the leaks that have happened for K be like X and skylake x compared to Broadwell E and yet I don't know keep you like X it seems like an interesting position yeah 4 cores 8 threads at max but it will be faster I would assume on an instructions per clock level than the skylake X processors yeah but skylake X is where you going to get your big core counts you know 10 core 20 thread it's going to be great for work stage man ok more in less than gaming more cash yeah actual full gen 3 legs I mean this this is listing only 16 PCI Express gen3 lanes 4 KB Lake X and i7 7000 series processor on this platform so that's that's kind of weird it's kind of a weird positioning for that chip and what we're probably really going to have to wait and see is how that's going to line up against like the Z 270 and mainstream KB Lake stuff that's coming out because presumably there will be a fork or eight thread like 7700 can yeah right so like really what's the difference with K be like X Y s gonna be a nice questions it's interesting but it's weird if they are launching at the same time then it does kind of mean that Intel is at least sort of getting their platforms on the same numbering scheme they haven't done that for quite a while well have we'll have X 299 for high end desktop and we'll have X 270 or Z or Z 274 mainstream desktop and probably H 270 and a few other variants like that as well right moving on to our next story all right so i retweeted thing that luke tweeted earlier this week and it was about nvidia and some of the stuff that they've been doing recently now the original thing came from reddit pcmasterrace article which was talking about a major geeks revelation that nvidia has begun doing telemetry and data collection through geforce experience through the GeForce experience utility and this thread which has 836 comments as of now goes on for many a year and many comments for people talking about various different things now when I originally looked at this reddit thread I was a little offended mainly because of some end user License Agreement stuff that was posted there that was in conflict one with the other which has since but fortunately been laid laid to rights and correct it a little bit but nevertheless I thought I would bring up and discuss it here because basically what is telemetry telemetry is data collection and then sending that data to a server somewhere to collect it to have more information now telemetry can collect a wide variety of data it can collect non personal data it can collect personal data and really it's going to be up to the software to determine what is collected and where it's sent in that kind of thing and whether or not it's encrypted the complaints on the original reddit thread where that now suddenly Nvidia has turned on this telemetry this data collection in GeForce experience it's collecting user data it's sending it willy-nilly over the Internet's and collecting information that really doesn't need to be collected or it's collecting information that will then be gone and shared with like Nvidia marketing partners so that you know you suddenly get new add emails in your ad or something like that that you didn't get before something like um which honestly people got upset at and I got a little upset at and I was like that's wrong and stupid but as Steve Burke wrote in his article here which is also linked in the description this is a gamer's nexus article Steve instead of getting mad and as he reminded us all in the beginning of his article level-headed approach offers Tibetans best insight instead of getting mad he contacted NVIDIA so the smart thing to do I actually got an email from Brian from Nvidia as well about this and then he also went the extra step of going and monitoring the GeForce experiences packet in-app transactions using some software what software do you use I wrote it down here some points Wireshark is what they use to monitor packets so I'm just going to run down my notes here because they'll probably be the most same way to do this since again I'm suffering from jet lag again I'm probably not being very coherent but this recent thread blew up for its citation of a major geek article that described invidious driver package as spying on user data this sparked users to dig up a French magazine canard PCs publication of Nvidia's updated privacy policy and end user License Agreement which apparently focused on collection of system hardware information by GeForce experience GeForce experience 3.0 which was just recently pushed last week requires user account registration and also requires sign-in in order to fully deploy shadowplay which is a very popular utility for capturing user gameplay especially stuff that was you know just happened 30 seconds ago as it works really well now you need to sign in and provide your user credentials and stuff in order to use this now the complaints happened because the EU la citation the Andrews License Agreement citation at least the one those posted on the original reddit thread that was taken from the PC master-race posters who posted that is from a privacy policy which governs the video.com website which is not the same as the end-user License Agreement and privacy policy that governs the GeForce experience application so applying the one from the website to the application itself the was written about the website is basically like we can take your information and we can share with our advertisers and do whatever the whatever the hell we want with it pretty much was what it said now if you apply that to drivers but I mean it's an egregious offence if you apply it to GeForce experience it's crappy but not quite as good but honestly this hasn't been applied to either this is where I was misled by some of the statements in the actual original reddit article because I looked at both of those and said well obviously they're saying two different things and my opinion based on working with large companies would be like well whatever the best thing for the company is probably what they're going to default to but honestly that wasn't even true because again they're taking something from the Nvidia comm website which is if you sign up there for an account and like you know for them to contact you about you know we have these great deals from our partners or whatever that kind of thing that's what that you you LA is applying to the EU LA that applies to the GeForce experience yes does have some language in it that refers to the sharing of your information with Nvidia but it is information that is necessary for GeForce experience to do what it does because GeForce experience is all about looking at the hardware that you have installed on your system cross referencing that with a bunch of other different comparisons that it's done a performance of different video games other people's systems and giving you the best possible at least as far as it can tell settings for the different games you might be playing in order to do that yes it needs to collect and what is listed here in the article the following information the GPU specification and vendor the GPU clock speeds and / clocks monitor and display resolution driver settings for specific games such as G sync toggling and type of anti-aliasing used resolution quality settings for specific games games and applications that you have installed which does seem kind of invasive but they're trying to figure these games so here are the profiles we will give you for those games that's part of what GeForce experience does memory capacity CPU specification bios for vision and motherboard none of this stuff is uniquely identifying to you it's uniquely identifying to your computer but as it doesn't tell them exactly what you do now granted there's some other stuff that might be communicated such as when you first sign up for GeForce experience and that kind of thing that remains to be seen the end result here the summary that Steve from gamers Nexus came to or the kind of end conclusion and I agree with him is that GeForce experience is gathering the information it needs to do the job that it is intended to do which is to give you settings for your games if you don't know what the settings should be that should be good settings for your resolution and for your hardware and for the game you're playing right it doesn't not seem to be taking personal information and sharing that with third parties Nvidia in their statements that they've delivered to to gamers Nexus here and the email that they sent to me as well was like we don't do that we're not we're not trying to like get your email address and share it with a bunch of marketing partners so you'll start to get eat so basically they're not Windows 10 they're not doing what Microsoft was it was getting so much fro from what they have said yeah from what gamers Nexus has reported on and what they've done in their testing and from several other tests that have been done by some other people that have been reported on this thread and elsewhere yeah there they seem to be for the most part on the epinet that said if nvidia was doing something like this I think the reaction would be perfectly well warranted and reasonable because we pay nvidia for graphics cards we have a reasonable expectation that they will provide drivers for the graphics cards that will help them to work with whatever operating system we're doing we're not like using their service like we might say an Android on a smartphone or Chrome or Google you know we're not getting free stuff from that not really paying much much for up front if nvidia started to do that sort of thing yes we would be very well warranted and getting mad at them and i think it's worth keeping an eye on what information is being sent back and forth by these applications and especially by just the base level driver yes we should be keeping that keeping an eye on that and holding Nvidia to a certain standard but overall this drama at least of the past few days does seem quite blown out of proportion as far as what is actually being done with the drivers and yeah I think there should be some pushback against requiring registration with the email address and everything but as long as they're not you know taking that information and putting you in on mailing lists or something like that translates to your face or trying to sell ads to your face really what the back-and-forth is doing is mainly doing stuff like getting game box add art for the GeForce installer and you know shows a little ad for whatever the latest game is as its installing the g-46 geforce driver so it's like this jennipher it works really good with this game you know that kind of thing I think I think the main difference is that they're actually the data that they're collecting is used to for the intent of helping you as a gamer right like you said it's the intent of what the application is trying to do which is provide the best gaming experience for someone who might not be ready to just jump into the game settings and just built in like no I'd like which settings do I need to use like in my mind ultra high medium do I use anti-aliasing that's where thing like it needs to collect certain amounts of data in order to provide the best experience for you if you can do that stuff yourself you're not comfortable with the data they're currently collecting then just don't enable GFE just just just uninstall it or just don't use it don't have it run on startup but if you are expecting those sorts of services from Nvidia you can expect them to provide those types of services without collecting some kind of data in order to best serve you so it's kind of like well what do you expect from them and you can't expect them to work miracles if you don't give some of your data in return and and it seems like from what this article is saying and from what the research that Steve has done it gamers Nexus it doesn't seem like it's anything super invasive of your privacy it's more so facts or analytics of your your personal computer that don't really tie back to you as a person but more so of your your settings as an admin or user okay so and if your I can dig that if you're really super paranoid the reddit thread that's linked in the description does go through the instructions for turning off the telemetry telemetry communication back to Nvidia so you can do that too but yeah I do think it's worth keeping the eye on to make sure that you know nothing ever changes that starts communicating more information than what we would like shared but you can't have an application that does what GeForce experience does without doing that yeah I guess to put it simply I know all right also next story is from the boob ads HDR video support yeah so YouTube now has HDR video and they're continuing efforts to stay at the forefront of streaming and display technology so that they can stay competitive against other video options like Netflix and Amazon YouTube now has hgr support so whereas folks who got like a 4k TV back when 4k TVs weren't really a thing and then they're like how can I find content and YouTube was one of the first people to say here is your 4k and then the same thing they did with like 360 video and that kind of thing now HDR high dynamic range video will now be supported there is not very much source HDR material right now but this will allow screens with the right hardware to display a more accurate and a realistic range of whites and blacks as well as a wider range of colors and then the but this is a big selling point for new TVs I know I'm kind of looking for a 4k TV right now and HDR support is definitely something that I have in mind it's a key benefit added by Microsoft and Sony as well for the latest version of the Xbox one s and the PlayStation 4 Pro and also very capable for something like a high-end graphics card to do I don't know why the bridge left that out of here they like to view any of this contact right now you got to have a new chromecast Ultra or you got to have an HDR blu-ray player or you got to have the Xbox one s excuse me the George or pesco or like name B yeah organ card any current generation graphics card which includes HD HD are supports and stuff like a support group DisplayPort 1.4 and HDMI 2.0 a yeah so if you're like Fritz right now if you're so if you're playing a video game like right now whatever what's your favorite video game that you're playing right now pal probably h1z1 I don't know if that one counts anyway Wow why did devalue my preferences as a PC gamer part of it I feel really appreciated by right now I don't I just don't know I don't want to say that I want to hear it I'm here just carry on your stupid story I'm trying to carry on you're cutting me off you yep you you so your graphics card or whatever your display source is well actually dummy down your signal it will go to a standard dynamic range signal as it's outputting whatever it is it's outputting depending on what your display sources of course but like a lot of games you know they can render an HDR just fine it just needs to say like oh I'm connected to an HDR display oh well don't take that color range and squeeze it down to that much before it outputs a signal let it all fly yeah you just uh put the full HDR signal so yeah for video games in particular you could probably have support for this right off the bat but nice to be able to take HDR video since I'm sure there's going to be lots of like really high-end cameras with HDR support and everything that are giving good source material for that I'm bringing it back on right now we have to replace all of our cameras with HDR cameras yeah very soon lovely I never mind the games report this isn't even intentional okay gigabytes gonna be making horace motherboards and graphics cards according to this article on digi x kyle briefly mentioned this on his half of the show did although his article was from hexxus net and there's no pictures here so i'm just going to turn that off anyway did you guys know the gigabyte or that horas is owned by gigabyte I did I did I knew that too they don't like to like advertise it that much but yeah or yes or this is kind of a sub-brand of gigabytes it's mainly being used to release motherboards and no lapped no I'm sorry gaming notebooks mice and keyboards as well as some poor other peripherals have been released under the Auris line really nice gaming laptops for sure they've had some really cool options there as well as some innovative type stuff what they're trying to do here is create a product line that is going to sort of match up against like the Asus premium gaming and motherboard and PC gaming line namely ROG or ROG Strix so I feel like this is kind of like what gigabyte was trying to do with their extreme gaming series that they've launched in the past generation or two but now they will have like horas so won't even say gigabyte maybe they'll have like a little gigabyte logo on the box or something we like to horas Z 270 gaming 5 I don't know what the hell but call the actual graphics card yeah our motherboard baya horas I would assume Z 270 and if we're going with the other rumors from this this live stream I'm I'm really I'm really starting to fade it's okay Z 270 as well as X 299 motherboards I'm sure will be available from this Ora's line as well as high-end graphics cards so instead of your gigabyte highest end graphics card you can buy a gigabyte mainstream graphics card or like your highest end like your 1080 ti horas like sex edition with xxx exhibition yeah that would sell because sex sells x2 so I wonder if that means gigabyte would no longer produce high-end graphics cards or if they would sort of compete in that same market as horas like where they both have their flagship GPUs or if they leave that to like high-end stuff I don't know I mean if you look at like it's like if you look at Asus you know you can buy an Asus GTX 1080 that is not an rog or a Strix product yeah and it's still a 1080 and you know it's probably four o'clock you know whatever the heck kids can do but it's not like the best they could possibly do yeah or whatever so that's probably what they're gonna do right so yeah I'm imagining they're still going to be a lineup of gigabyte motherboards as well yeah but they're like my guess here would be there's not going to be a gigabyte X $2.99 $500 motherboard now that will be a Norris problem yeah okay you know that kind of think the Miz and whatever whatever's whatever's hat that's what they'll do it's kind of exciting in a way I mean it's still from gigabyte at its core but it's kind of cool to see a different brand it's very pushing out like flagship level products like motherboards and especially graphics cards I think that's could be refreshing it could be cool I I hope it I hope Oris has kind of its own unique and diverse sort of style and aesthetic apart from gigabyte kind of like how ROG has their own separate look from the regular asus line of things i think that would be pretty cool I would say the work that they've done with aura so far is promising so taking that and applying it to graphics cards and motherboards seems like a good idea to me yeah okay let's move on to the next segment which is tales from space because I saw some articles about space this week and I was like those are interesting so this is as close as I'm going to get to election coverage here but did you know that if you didn't vote you really have no excuse because there's astronauts that voted from frickin space I voted a the sticker I don't know if you guys it's even in a different sticker at there's several different languages several different languages because you know it's Los Angeles County so there's a wide variety of languages spoken there I see Chinatown I see Filipino on there I think I see East East LA we'll move to a cool toy yet I dyed my own that's an American hi American POTUS yeah so anyway um you shouldn't feel bad if you didn't vote I didn't know I was I was alluding to that I I have sort of Annabeth use that I'm not gonna get into that that's fine but yes but the astronauts even voted from the frickin space station station believe it or not this is all thanks to a bill passed by Texas Legislature's in 1997 that puts a technical voting procedure in place for astronauts it's the Texas Legislature because astronauts are often from Texas I don't really how that works out I don't know that's where the name Ewing from he's the only astronaut I really know and respect Buzz Aldrin no no see alright this there's plenty of others as well know a way in order to vote in space the astronauts need to provide now a year before they launch they select which elections they will participate in the local state or federal and then six months before the election they're provided with the voter registration and absentee ballot requests so they basically file an absentee ballot and the first time this was done was the same year was first implemented air first yeah implemented which was 1997 so you can vote you can vote in space vote from space and that fun thinking new from space I could certainly do from her you're right you'd think you'd have a better excuse you money again you I do all right we talk a lot about SpaceX during tales from space and the Falcon 9 rocket explosion that happened several months back it was definitely a bit of a nail-biter a bit of a like whodunit there's lots of speculation they seem to have now finally decided what actually caused this problem and it was caused by aids aids no not by aids oh it was caused by an ultra cold oxygen reaction with the carbon fiber in the fuel tank that was my second guess I know it's aids and then that of course as we all know oxygen freezes in its gaseous state at minus two hundred and eighteen point seven nine degrees Celsius its gassy and as the rocket was being loaded with oxygen spacex mixes the oxygen with liquid kerosene and they did it too fast basically which caused it to freeze and then that apparently led to that acute explosion that you just saw Oh anyways mace X launches could restart before the beginning of 2017 I have mainly heard like SpaceX is like yeah before the beginning of 2017 that means like maybe the end of 2016 realistic expectations seem to point more towards probably the beginning of 2017 so maybe q1 2017 we'll see the Falcon 9 fly once again sweet know that's the sound that the Falcon nine makes oh all right the James Webb Space Telescope is the most badass telescope that you will ever probably know unless you live more than 20 years or so the final sun shield layer has been completed for it and everyone should be excited look at that I'm stoked those do not just look like basic sheets of tin foil and I'm sure that's really they're not for this picture is from Northrop Grumman's space park facility Redondo Beach California for the last five sunshield layers responsible for protecting the optics and instruments of NASA's James Webb Space Telescope is now complete what you're looking at here is about the size of the tennis court really yeah these sheets right here that's a tennis court science yeah a tennis court no you could you could you could beat me at face off all over again see I thought that was like the size of like maybe like a quarter of a 10 square they need like a banana for scale but look look at this picture here that that would should see what I do what is that those big dudes down here looks really different look how big the freakin thing is that's what it look at this like I had no how's that relate those 10 giant bees that must come to pollinate this and they probably eat these these dudes down here like pin the tail on the bass is for to feed and yes they feed on them into breeding anyway uh I just messed this up so this is the size of a tennis court is what I'm trying to say it will make it possible for the James Webb Space Telescope to image the formation of stars and galaxies created more than thirteen point five billion years ago hmm okay yeah I care about this yawning it they don't care about the future of technology's space and frights space this will prevent the background heating from the Sun yeah from interfering with the telescope's infrared sensors no I'll have me a super awesome I will have you know I don't know uh and and and going back to this ten tinfoil up here right there five like tennis on it five Sun shield membrane layers designed and manufactured by the kneazle corporation in Huntsville Alabama these are each as thin as a human hair lots really lookit ya know but it's because they're crumpled at the edges it may gives the illusion of thickness human they will fold origami style into the Ariane 5 rocket and then these will of course be delivered up to the James Webb telescope the world's next generation space observatory I mean origami style like it'll be accepted into the Hubble telescope like it'll be folded into a crane it's the data there's a darkness of a human hair it's got to be able to collapse into a fairly compact package what are they mean or shot up into space origami styles like you know look at this this lotus we like fold it up into a lotus I fold it a lotus flower when I was in Taiwan and Thailand really yeah did they give you like the paper and like in the instructions on how to fold it no is in Bangkok okay go into the flower most women to the flower market you should know how to do that did you go to the flower market when you're in Bangkok I think we missed it's open 24 hours 24 hours a day you can go there and wholesale buy flowers and that's where like all the major hotels in the area go and like they buy flowers so like all the other little like did you get it ever get any of those flower necklaces the head looks like the little white ones like the lotus flowers with the folded flowers and stuff like that no I feel like my tat experience was so truly agreeance Thailand clearly not who needs flowers at 3:00 in the morning though hotels on Alice Lee no they don't I've never walked into a hotel three and be like where the of the flowers speaking of where the of the flowers today's episode is brought to you by fractal design nice transition yeah thank you thank you very much fractal design --less maker of high-quality and sexy cases cases they also do power supplies case fans water cooling accessories and they have a new case that's out right now which is the affine C mini or defined mini see I should say well that it's available the define C series available in mini as micro ATX as well as just a standard Devine C which is full size I like the micro ATX better well Kyle and I both have hands-on experience with the micro ATX version so we encourage you guys to check out those videos if you haven't already at a pvx LAN this weekend over the last weekend Fri Cole Josh were sitting right next to me and he actually had brought a defined mini C with him which had which was loaded up pretty pretty nicely I had a Kelvin 240 radiator in there as well as 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a graphics card but also a TV tuner card and I was done infinite TV just as just to show just show more practical demonstration have a sexy time-lapse of the cable management did you know did you I didn't think that was really necessary yeah well you know it's awesome this is thought that would have been stupid hey guys if you want more information on either of these cases we do have links in both of our video descriptions on YouTube yes indeed or you can if you're on Twitter you can just go ahead and check out our YouTube channels you'll find the reviews there there pretty recently posted alright groovy good times 3 is sell Thank You self for being here for modding for posting links and chat you or freaking awesome alright ah no that's let's move right along with the next segment which is sword fight now sword fight is where Cal and I take up arms against a sea of troubles and by opposing end them so I'm quoting Shakespeare I don't know where that came from because the point is we're going to argue about some usually I have a couple questions but this week I just have one just one I thought it was poignant and important and something that all of us really deserve an answer to yep given that tonight's is a night of great import especially here in the US of A I thought I asked this very basic question which is are we doomed are we doomed like just are we doomed for life are we doomed just yeah just our are we are we doomed we doomed the best we are doomed and Damned posting that and all data chat right now so you guys can answer as well so are we doomed yes chaos is descended and the world will soon be consumed to the fires of oblivion no the main mankind may stumble we will always persevere through trials to forge a better tomorrow oh boy and then of course that other option but we can't always be a third option um I'll let you go first for you for you Bernie Sanders fans up there all right since we only have this one question and and because because I believe not just in you and me but us but in all of us together I will say no no we are not doomed Kyle we are not doomed because though the night may be dark and though we may face what may seem like insurmountable odds I believe truly that we can come together as a people and that's you know my grandma always said that a stick and a bundle won't break right that's from it's because I watched I watched a movie on the airplane and that quote was on that and they said that quote so your grandma didn't really say that no I'm totally believing it's a fake grandma that doesn't that removes nothing from the sentiment at all sure does which is that you know if we come together you know mankind historically if you look back right look look look at how we live right now right we're doing okay we're not doing bad certainly there are things in the past that were great problems that we have overcome to now live a better life than we did before and you know everything's not perfect but people ultimately will we'll work together to make a better life for themselves mass shootings are at an all-time high Paul Casey I'm not done yet I'm not finished and that is why we are not doomed we will not go quietly into the night we will not vanish without a fight we're going to live on we're going to where he says next this is our Independence Day so is that the movie watch on the plane if you just like I'm gonna quote that for awesome hardway was it was a long flight and then was slightly delirious as I watched many planes god I wish my movies okay it's you sure okay thank you we're all chaos has descended upon the world and it shall be consumed in the fires of oblivion we are doomed doesn't matter who you vote for guys this country is screwed and you know it's they say the lesser of two evils you vote for the one you think is going to be the less shitty one this isn't specific to the country this is everything this is just everything okay we're still we are destined as a race to fail there has never been a race in all of existence that has made it you look at prehistoric times whether you're talking the dinosaurs or whatever other species existed before that and nature is just out to wipe us all out it's out to get us it does not care what we like or we love or how we are as people it's just an ever-evolving thing that will eventually us all over we are here for a split second in the universe and then we're gone whatever it is whether it be a massive wipeout from a you know a catastrophic natural disaster or one of the presidents being elected it doesn't matter we are doomed our days are numbered we have a clock on all of our heads and we are it's just the nature of the world no species has ever lived forever it's it's its life you begin you start you live you're born you live it and then you die so I hate to be the bearer of bad news but it's best that you figure this out early on in life because it's not going to get easier and the longer you keep living this lie that you tell yourself that everything's going to be okay the harder the fall and the crash is going to be when fate knocks on your door one day and rails you in the ass Merry Christmas this to to all of you though who celebrate it you I'll be there message of hope message if it's a complimentary sandwich fist as I hey sorry see let's see what you guys thought are we doomed results big bad milk you should feel bad ah oh wow wow it seems like most even agree which i was hoping would be the opposite of the case wow I was hoping that then T words were less pessimistic more than no more than double of the other two more than no and the third party option by which I have the third option would have a good chance should always pardon me Jesus should always have a third party option well alright so on that home Merry Christmas let's let's slip gently into the Q&A section where we will theoretically answer a few questions that you guys might have for us before we all go and dig ourselves again early grave apparently and for the record that's not how I personally feel I was just trying to trying to win the argument now you didn't you did your job all too well count okay yeah all too well that's what I was afraid of all right all right clones questions we'll have a few here we will also briefly if we have any at least do some Johnson shout outs I don't know I don't think I got any though uh I don't think so either I got one fine I got one yay Oh Nakao yeah Carl Carl Carl that's the number one thing that I get usually when I tell people the photos you need Kyle Carl no that is a Carl that's a class cat Carl I'm sure you probably get the opposite people like Kyle you know it's Carl thank you very much painting of a CPU cooler shirt Johnson to you brother appreciate that but that's oh a hair for me on my end I wasn't that refreshing so Jay tick min says I should go smoke a dummy wait there was a question that I thought we could answer just a moment ago where did it go where to go yeah H ones here Gibson DK asks H 110 motherboard with RAM at 3000 megahertz works question mark no no I'm sorry Gibson DK 3000 megahertz is qualified as an overclocked memory speeds by Intel so the only speeds you'll be able to get within H 110 motherboard of the ones that are qualified is not over clock speeds which basically means 2133 or sometimes 2400 depending on the actual CPU that you're using right so yeah sorry about that what's the best way to connect the gtx 1050 to a VGA only monitor I don't can you even do that a dozen fifty even include an analogue out you probably have to get an adapter no didn't used to get an adapter you wouldn't if it doesn't have analog out yeah I mean you're screwed if you buy a new monitor you should not yeah using if you really buy a new monitor like any VGA only monitor is going to be really just crappy I mean unless hear like an old-school CRT monitor person and then yes I can see some of the benefits that people get from using like the old really high-end CRT monitors right there's there's reasons to do that but if you're using a VGA like older LCD like it's it's not get a new monitor 150 bucks or even a hundred a hundred bucks hundred bucks jóska any panel Costco has a a 22 inch Costco has a 24 inch led LG 5 millisecond monitor for a hundred bucks right now I just saw it in my Costco ad I'm not affiliated with Costco who do you work for and I was like um who do or buy I can't buy that for my parents because they have an old like 3 by 3 4 monitor new and I keep like upgrading their computer and then I go over there and I'm still in a crappy old monitor like dad buy a new minor he's like oh yeah sure and I'm like no he won't know as long as that new as long as that existing monitor works he will not buy a new I mean all parents are the same mine mine are the same way I'm like there's something way better good guy it's fine it's minus 10 inches what more do you need like 17 inch no dad 3 4 like stop that's awful so it's all fuzzy anyway the stir button takes up a quarter of the screen treyton sorry treyton asks how drunk are you right now it's really not hard to tell kinda drunk I mean I have torturing him but it's mainly the the jetlag yeah I am loopy dude it's the same for me I would like to just put my head down and fall asleep right now you know be glorious that would be absolutely glorious yeah get a get a get an LCD with DVI or HDMI or just some kind of digital connection alright 1080 or 1074 1440p definitely 1070 that can handle it no problem yeah I remember back in the day I was rocking a GTX 970 overclocked and gaming on my cue Knicks 2 7 panel no problem which was 2560 by 1440 playing it GTA 5 max settings more or less you know getting 50 to 60 65 FPS on average so 1070 should be fine for 1440 just save yourself some money you do not need the 1080 giraffe 2012 asks best Ultrabook relief in laptop for under three hundred and fifty dollars Oh ultra book I don't think don't think that exists yeah ultra book you have to meet certain requirements to be considered an ultrabook like he has to be like super thin like under point zero eight inches smaller and thinner and lighter that laptops get the more expensive they get yeah because I got to spend more R&D to actually cram all that hardware inside of a super slim form factor so I don't think that's possible if you need something that slim on that price point maybe look at a Chromebook or something like that okay yeah Patrick Horgan asks Kyle why didn't you vote um hmm what do you think because you were jet-lagged well do you think do you think I should it's that there's no do you think there's any backlash of me explaining why or backlash we're like do you think it's a bad idea or should I keep that hush I mean are you gonna be talking about who you would would have voted for that kind of thing no know what Chad we're trying to be nonpartisan in this episode no I wouldn't talk about who I'd vote for I'm just like remember like the whole thing that happened and going through some as of late what happened you know Oh oh that yeah maybe wait till like it's ironed out a little bit yeah yeah wait till like it's yeah Jesus I mean you can allude to that without saying specifically I mean there was so there is another that went down today that we yet required your attention yeah um some things that affected just the channel in general which I was not expecting it came out of left field and totally he's illegal oh I think I assassin impressive um yeah there was some that went down that was a pretty harsh on the channel I won't get into specifics right now until it's more ironed out until I have a better picture of actually what's going on but some really heinous things that came up that uh just kind of prevented me from being able to go out there and vote that really knew it was it was an emergency type of situation where I just needed to take care of that first before I could do things and yeah I've forfeited my civic duty and ability and privilege to vote something that our countries work very hard for is that freedom so I do feel bad and yeah but you know happens happens and I think uh you know California has made its choice already I think it's made a decent choice and I am NOT going to oppose it too much so yeah I am going to that guy I will be able to sleep well at night and I'm not gonna go into it any further than that but okay yeah that said I think is a good enough time to end this week's episode of awesome artwork yeah uh sorry this week this week's episode has been a little bit off kilter again both of us are suffering from jet lag to some degree and right about when the show happens is right about the time it usually hits at least if you're coming from the east back to the west from like Asia back to California or us yeah it can be rough at that time dude anyway though once again guys if you're in the area keep an eye on our Twitter's for later this weekend we'll be talking about when we're going to have the where we're going to have the get-together the fan meetup on Saturday yeah hit the thumbs up button if you enjoy this video more videos coming later this week yep and probably know after party tonight just as I'm ready we're still very jet-lagged and I still have some stuff to do when I get home I don't wanna make any promises so it's probably unlikely to love the after party in the rare event that we do you can follow us on Twitter for updates there's a decent chance I'll be passing out within the next 20 minutes yeah and I'm pretty sure when I get home wifey sauce will slap me around yeah like that no no she won't do that but exactly yeah don't count on it for this week but I thank you guys so much thanks everybody have a good week we'll be back next week with more awesome hardware