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had a few years catching up with you but John Oliver who does last week tonight's show has tackled net neutrality once again just like he did about three years ago towards the beginning of a show so if you guys haven't watched this I highly recommend it if you don't like John Oliver for political reasons I understand and pull it there's lots of reasons to be politically active for various reasons these days I would say please try to try to look past that for now because this really is an issue that affects everyone there's an FCC comment period open right now because the FCC is proposing to remove the net neutrality rules that are currently in fact in effect those rules are in effect because internet service providers are classified as title to common carriers by the FCC I'm going to read this comment because I think it's pretty good at sort of explaining the situation it's a promoted comment from the article Tom xp for when one says here's what bugs me about this whole thing the American people have spoken and the overwhelming consensus from all sides this was in 2014 and 2015 by the way when this first came up was that we want the government to Anne force net neutrality this gave the FCC a pretty clear mandate to do exactly what they did when title 2 was invoked and net neutrality was enacted which the FCC had to do the FCC tried to do it by just creating rules and Verizon sued them and they had to roll them back so the only way they were able able to actually enforce net neutrality was to classify ISPs as title 2 as common carriers under title 2 of the 1934 ads it's an old back to the from 1934 anyway we said with a strong clear voice that fast lanes slow lanes and corporate censorship are not to be tolerated and the FCC listened neither neither pie nor anyone else can say that this is in America's best interest when America told the FCC exactly what America wants quite frankly I am still amazed that this is even even under consideration we strongly agree with you and John Oliver and the folks at last week tonight have made it even slightly easier to comment on this if it's something that you feel strongly about and honestly you can comment it on on it one way or the other by and large the people we speak to are for keeping things as they are they want to keep ISPs classified as title to common carriers so that net neutrality can be enforced by the FCC so if you want to tell the FCC that go to go FCC yourself calm ha ha which will basically take you through several of the steps that you need to do on the FCC website to get to the commentary page granted the FCC website has been unstable especially in the past couple days since John Oliver posted his video on last week tonight and there's some conspiracy theorists out there who have said maybe the FCC website is done because they don't want more people to comment who knows a lot of us actually think that it doesn't matter how many people comments and what they say FCC's still going to do what they want to do anyway but it's important to speak up right now so that in the future when they're like we don't care what people have said and what people want we're going whatever we want to do you can be like you know what most people didn't want to do that so and beyond that it goes into voting and all that kind of stuff but we leave it at that because again I'm going to try to keep those segments relatively short but really really strongly encourage you to some rewrite their poem - well thank you I'm trying last week was a bit rough around the edges sighs just trying to be slightly slightly better this time and at least point you guys in a better direction okay next up on tech news GTC is going on this week the g-force technology conference which is an event that nvidia puts on every year here's a pretty interesting device or fancy-ass computer that they're demonstrating here which is a multi-user VR setup here's not extrovert right that's fun yeah that's pretty sweet this is build here has four Quadro p6000 GPUs which I think I should double yeah Quadra p6000 which I think are fairly I'm going to double check how much these costs at retail right now but four of those altogether which gives you four independent outputs to connect up your VR things that you might need to connect these headsets yeah your headsets and HMDs and and all that good stuff Quadra p6000 why is just giving me a UK website why it's 4,000 euro though shopping we're around for how much just a Quadro p6000 oh we have seven thousand dollars so depending on where you go the 24 gig each of these cards cost five to seven thousand dollars so we can say we can say that so obviously not an inexpensive solution but do you need these cards to do multiplayer GNote VR no you don't but their workstation GPUs each one is connected to an HTC vive Business Edition headset and this is sort of being marketed by Nvidia as like hey here's a solution that you could deploy in various situations to allow people to all be running VR off of the same machine to potentially be in a collaborative environment where they all work together so each quad in this system is running a virtual machine on a server which allows each vr-2 or each VR user to act independently so hvr gets their separate instance of a virtual machine operating system where they can load up their games and whatever and play the gamers though when they're actually playing cannot be tracked by the same lighthouses so that's kind of cool so they can all be in the same area together you don't necessarily need multiple lighthouses or anything like that to track them so they can move around in the same space and as the article points out there's lots of different implementations of this or use cases where it could be useful office environments for collaborations of like people who are in different spaces around around the world potentially something like that just a sort of virtual meeting environment or something more simple like that but eventually obviously gaming is a huge potential use of it but also educational facilities amusement parks and our Cades specialized gaming situations that are you couldn't potentially get at home but you might go to a you know an arcade or something like that to play in also military and manufacturing industries could potentially have uses as well although the article doesn't elaborate on how those industries might make use of something like this all in all though kind of kind of interesting the couple points brought up by the article and actually I thought of these myselves myself even before the article pointed out but some issues with the current 8 head-mounted display VR solutions that are available is like tripping over wires because obviously you know a lot of wires coming out of this thing and if you have four people all working in the same environment that could be an issue running into or hitting each other as well multi-user collaborative VR environments are still I believe in the sort of infancy stages right now so I don't know how that would be handled you should in a VR environment be able to see the other person who's there with you and whatever be our space that's created but obviously there might be issues if you're playing a game and trying to use a weapon where you're swinging something around or something like that then that could be a problem but hopefully something like that would be able to be worked out I actually saw a video and I think this was something random that I stumbled over on Twitter and I don't I couldn't find it I spent several minutes of my increasingly short period of time I had to plan the show before we went live trying to find this video but it was people who were playing it it was a VR environment the video was using augmented reality so they're doing the thing where they're recording the people playing live but they were over overlaying the actual VR environment as well and they were playing a multiplayer game where they were all jumping around and like you know putting their hands out in specific ways like shoot shoot you know beams of energy at each other and stuff like that and it was a really cool video it's very stylized they obviously edit it all together and stuff but it was a cool example of maybe what something like this can be used for and I'm sorry to give you guys all that description without being able to actually point you to where that is but who knows maybe somebody in chat knows what I'm talking about that's cool remember last week we were talking about the future VR and what you know these smaller startup companies are working on to improve HMDs and just the whole VR experience and we talked about TP cast how they've already released their their wireless module to go completely wireless and then they're currently working on the same sort of thing and upgrade to that that would allow you to do wireless play with multiplayer potentially locally okay so with me I don't know if you could use that in tandem with a system like this or you know a similar setup where you could have a bunch of like three or four people in one large warehouse or like a large room wireless not tripping over each other's wires and having free range to to play together and collaborate on a in a VR environment however I kind of wonder for wireless solutions like how much just because there's so much data that needs to be communicated very quickly with minimal latency between the source you know the host and your and your actual head mounted display and everything like how quickly does this wireless spectrum that's available get crowded with different connections that are going on and everything you have not little signals at the same time yeah ends like that I'd be curious about that but yeah cell also pointed out in chat that he he would pay money to see us do the Star Trek bridge simulator Star Trek Oh Star Trek bridge Star Trek bridge simulator which Steve has always been has sent us several Steve was really early on that he he sent it to us way before it actually went out and there's several I think youtubers who have gone to us like a specific location where they've tried out the Star Trek bridge bridge simulator but yeah that would be that'd be cool trail I wouldn't mind trying that at all I like I like pretending like I'm in Star Trek who hates to do that all the time all right uh so speaking of VR let's segue right into this next story Vasia you guys familiar with Vasa the mounting standard for monitors and things like that TVs well visa is actually the video electronics standards standards Association okay so it's an Associated video electronics standards Association so yeah wanted to enunciate that so yeah they're an association that has helped standardize quite a few different things we often hear the term visa because we say oh it has a base amount but that is the result of the Vesak group's efforts at standardization across lots of different manufacturers okay because standardization can help both manufacturers and consumers in a lot of ways so vase is now looking at VR virtual reality as an emerging market and a place where they feel like some standardization could do some good so they said just to give you guys a little bit of history it is very well known for DisplayPort the best connection still in my opinion even though HDMI 2.0 is out I still like DisplayPort better also embedded DisplayPort which is very very commonly used in laptops for a connection between the screen and your graphics card on the laptop also they previously defined long-standing IDI at the eated standard extended display identification data which is a standard for the communication of data between us a monitor and its source that is used and works with vga hdmi and displayport so and maintaining the integrity of an Eden signal is the reason why sometimes when you're using a splitter or something like that it doesn't work because part of that also goes into stuff like digital rights management and that kind of thing but I don't to get too far off topic here anyway basically oh and also of course the holes on the back of your monitor and your TV standardizing that basis standard mount sizes for mounting different sizes of displays the reason there's a ton of different mounts you can buy and arms and swing arms and all that kind of thing that all just work with whatever monitor you happen to have as long as it has a standard base amounts it's because of ASA standardization toros now I sail that's to fluff up this story because honestly there's not it's been beyond that but due to the rapid growth and also the fragmentation of the augmented reality and virtual reality markets vases said they really need to need some standardization the lack of standardization is causing compatibility issues between products from different vendors as well as increasing the complexity and cost of development ownership and replacements but with a standardized this is the same no it doesn't I mean that there's a few things so I mean like the size of NH MD or like the actual viewports you're using what they're saying right now is that the developers who are developing these products which is primarily right now as far as products have been brought to market HTC with the vibe as well as oculus with the rift they've been focusing on creating an end-user experience that is you know tenable for VR environments which they've done a pretty good job with if you get a rift or you get a vibe you can do VR and you can put and you can do it like even if you are susceptible to motion sickness or that kind of thing like VR works and it's very fun and you know granted there's a pretty significant barrier to entry still because you need a high NPC and a headset solution that will cost you between five and six hundred bucks just for that by itself but it works but basically avais is saying is that we need to introduce some standardization to this to allow for replacements so I don't know like again I'm not really sure what they're talking about specifically if they're talking about like replacement you know interface connection between your face and the device or something like that maybe not something like cutting you mean or I don't I don't know I'm speculating yeah I'm throwing out potentials here could be connections for the hmd because another difference between the rift and the end of I yes so it could be a universal way of connecting it it could be create it could be even creating a new standard for a single connector between a headset or you know if we're if we're ignoring the potential for for wireless connectivity or something like that but a standard a standardized connection so you can plug it in to your computer and plug it into your headset and you don't have to worry about separate connections for power and video and audio yeah so there's potential for that and that's the end of the story okay fun let's move on to talk about Google fuchsia you should fuchsia those rights google's fuchsia is a smartphone OS yes a new smartphone OS and if you're like wait doesn't Google already make operating systems the answer would be yes this would be the third operating system after Android and Chrome OS and fuchsia was first talked about back in August so this is a new news but what is new is that there's actually you I know that people can sort of look at and mess around with a little bit so the mobile OS yeah so it seems to be designed specifically for for mobile devices and in fact the so the operating system is based on a completely new microkernel which is called magenta it is not linux based at all it's open-source in real-time and the operating system is licensed under a mix of BSD Clause 3 MIT and Apache 2.0 magenta is targeting modern phones and modern personal computers with fast processors non-trivial amounts of ram with arbitrary peripherals doing open-ended computation so this is like basically high-end phones competing with Android then yes but Google is known in the past also to create multiple products for a specific market so it's not necessarily the first time they've done this so you don't think that they're trying to phase out Android no no they're creating this as an alternative to Android hecka um interesting I mean who knows long term this may be the next layer chrome pixel or the Google pixel will be featuring this there may be a special version of the pixel with this special operating system or something like that but um the UI that's been shown so far you know it's very much compromised by blocks you know you're not necessarily gonna see what's in them but you know this is email reminder comprise comprise did I say compromised anything didn't didn't mean to say that but as you scroll through this you can see different things like you might have cards that are available like it and Android right now you can tap on them to bring the app fullscreen basic UI functionality type stuff you can long press on an app and create sort of a windowed mode and you can drag them around on top of each other to move them around which is something that you don't necessarily see on Android a different way of moving things around there's a tablet mode so they're definitely designing it to work with multiple devices not just smartphones you can also quickly do like split screen interface so you can pop apps between that so for multi tasking this is a three app split screen mode that they have as well and then also different ways of configuring apps to be shown side by side so you can actually use stuff at the same time probably again more useful for something like a tablet but here you can see like email and various other screens that they have lined up tabbed modes tab interface with a phone screen there's also suggestion panels and a keyboard interface and all that good stuff so um yeah kind of interesting not sure how how long it's going to be until there's something based or that actually uses this operating system but interesting that Google is developing it the graphics renderer is actually Vulcan based which is is also kind of cool and again given that it's open source and they're using lots of open source license development kits you know there seems to be lots of potential flexibility and implementations of it so interesting I again like you said it's like weird it's too sick well Google has Android Android doesn't have a whole lot of competition outside of Apple so why would they develop something else something new but obviously they have their reasons and the UI that we were just walking you through there by the way is the fuchsia assist the current fuchsia system UI and it's called armadillo it does look very modern yeah I'll say it looks looks very contemporary which you which you would expect coming from Google so there you go all right here's a bit of hardware news Coolermaster is launching a new product also if anyone from guru 3d is watching you have a typo in your headline lunch shiz typo in your headline that is lunch this that is journalism mr. jazz is big-time journalism man I never have any and accuracies er Arizona hey I'm not saying I've had never had a typo before by the typo in the headline is bet okay sorry guru D but thank you for this article as well as the wonderful pictures look a new case from Coolermaster this is the master box light five there it is so very similar it's part of the master case line so I would imagine it's going to be intercom pata bethalto case series accessories and that kind of thing it's available in three different colors though this is the red version that's shown here there's also a version with sort of a silver trim as well as black trim it's got four hundred and twenty millimeter fans built into it which that's pretty nice I'm guessing there's maybe one at the back and one at the top and two at the front it sounds reasonable but I like that for 120 millimeter coolermaster fans coolermaster usually does pretty pretty good fans even they're kind of bare-bones ones that they ship with chassis zzz's mm-hmm here's a look at it with the actual parts installed it has an edge to edge transparent acrylic side panel which you know that could be fun I don't know how I feel about the rear cable routing cutouts there's no there's no real grommets it's not so this is a budget this is a budget case okay bear that in mind so it does have a dark mirror front panel as you can see right here so the red version here I'm not sure if the red version shifts with red LED fans or if this is just something that they're doing for the marketing materials but you would potentially be able to see red LED fans through there so there's that and it's only $49.99 euros which the reason I knew how many euros $49.99 euros was when you were talking about that price enhancer show it's cuz I looked it up for this article which is about fifty five dollars to us so this competes directly with the something like the Corsair speck zero for it would you just talked about on my half but I don't hate the front of this one I'm gonna be honest this looks a lot nicer this looks cleaner it looks more expensive - I like the front of this I'm not necessarily a huge fan of the clear look here I'd have to see it in person to see how clean it actually looks I wouldn't want it to look tacky but it already looks way better than the corset but it does seem to already look much better on the front here's here's a look at the side with the completely clear side panel acrylic which I'm on the fence about - this is probably a cheaper way of producing a side panel I have to imagine yeah that would be less expensive than metal but it does give a complete look at the side and with the cover over the power supply the internals look nice so it's nice you get a basement yeah for that price point they got the base rate so-so 55 bucks us I think I think Corsair has a pretty nice potential case here like Kyle said it's missing a few of the nicer things that you get with the cases it cost more like eighty or a hundred bucks I take it back though if it's fifty five bucks right here it's five so it's still pretty damn good there you go a little SSD tray right there on the front - yes so again this is a guru 3d article and it's talking about the launch in Europe and it should be available at local resellers in Europe by the end of May 2017 I don't know if that applies to the US as well but hopefully this would also be available in the US yeah okay moving on YouTube has a dark bone now have you seen this you familial test I heard about it I haven't seen it though try it afresh look for YouTube yes your desktop design highlights your favorite videos and creators while making YouTube easier and more fun to use we're still working on it but we can't wait for you to try it out and let us know what you think right now try it out click the try Now button yep hold on if you go to youtube.com slash new you can access this page which has a quick look at the clean design for their new UI which does look very clean it looks like they're pretty wider with fewer lines separating things yeah that's ok though dark theme though I really like this option do it dark mode is cool do it they also reference a totally new site design that's built on a new faster framework that means we can build new faster new features faster such as dark theme and more to come and you can try it now now I'm just to be on the safe side I'm going to try it now but not show people ok you can show this right yeah sure all right so I hit try it now so this is the recommended feed and the show more and again that's it feels like cleaner looks like stuff spaced out just slightly more yeah yeah that's like it'd be it would read better on mobile for sure come he got fired let's not talk about that uh COBE about this FBI oh no we're not gonna get into that so yeah that's that's not bad um hold on let me see if I can pull up dark mode dark mood do the dirt stop it I think Dirk mode is up here Oh dark theme I'm just making sure that I can show this also we're watching we're for streaming an ad that's playing on the video that we're streaming oh no never mind this is an ad that's playing on my video never mind never mind so if you go up here you can choose a dark theme activate activate dark theme oh it basically just turns it into YouTube gaming that's exactly what it does is this a non skippable ad I shouldn't have non skippable ads playing it can I skip it well you do know that you're skint it to a - ticket to last elegant look at that look how dark it is sorry there's somebody just like my god it's cuz this is like oh that's utter oh yes I really this is it really segwaying people - that from my thousand-dollar bill that's pretty much genius I was not intending that it's not up to you it's like it's just Google okay being on point that's just what happened it's very funny hey that looks pretty cool I like it yeah I like it that looks clean why not sure everyone go for the dark theme and again you can access that by going to youtube.com slash new but you do have to opt in for right now because I think it's kind of like a beta beta thing or something like that what's going people happy here politeness lettuce is $1,000 build is be quiets fault it is be quiet no that's not true since I got sponsored with the same parts the same parts not not more than a month ago Oh or he output his okay and I almost did a similar build and I was like I thought exactly what everyone in the comment section of his video was thinking this is horrible price performance so instead I matched up the rest of the parts to sort of you know to sort make sense really for it to make sense um okay it was gonna be a budget build it was like no not with that cooler not with that case and idiot I put in 1800 X in it and it was it was a high end rising build which then all this sudden makes perfect scent is subtly fine it's a great system because then extra money spent on a hundred and fifty dollar power supply versus a hundred dollar power supply it gets folded into it a lot more easily right but like honestly the like I thought about this a lot because you know I went and commented on that video and actually I had the top comments on that video for I don't know if it's still that way noises - this video and I felt completely justified by it because it was completely organic like I saw his video thousand dollar build guide I was like oh - did a new build guide I haven't seen one of those in a while let's check it out they usually do a pretty good job yeah thousand bucks hey I just did a thousand dollar build I bet he's doing horizon build let's see what he used yeah looked at it I was like oh wow it's a I five seventy four hundred seventy four seventy five hundred and seventy five hundred seventy five hundred and like it rx what uh it was a GPU it was not a ten seventy it was a step down from attempt already orifice 480 or five eighty or something like that I just looked at I was like man this just seems disappointing so I mean I made the comment very much how I thought like at the time I was like wow this just seems like a letdown compared to like the rise and stuff that's available right now and yeah you know I tried not to make it too much like hey go look at my channel like I said yeah I'd be that guy but Emory but yeah a lot of people a lot of people apparently thought the same thing so so there you go um but yeah where where was I go with that no I totally agree I felt like Linus should have known to like not green like that oh I know what I was gonna say is what I was thinking about is is how much is it is about phrasing and how you phrase a video yeah and how you present it to people cuz I was thinking like you know what if you left a thousand bucks out of that he left budget out of that and he said here's a build guide yeah here's how to build a system yeah and maybe said here's the build we used and here's two or three other parts lists that you could build using these same techniques and blah blah like I think he would have gotten zero blow but blow back on that so I think that was just a phrasing one word one word in your title or description your thumbnail can change everything yeah it can really can how how people breathe how people are viewing it from the get-go and that kind of thing so you always have to find like a strike cabal and we're not trying to roast Linus I think Linus would agree with us on this yeah we're not roasting very very honest they're providing great just genuine feedback okay all right we have one last news story to get through really quickly this is from hot hardware apparently there's another incoming rise in microcut microcode update which will potentially expand ddr4 memory support which is very slow speeds hopefully potentially faster speeds potentially just more memory validated compatibility excuse me um so yeah what AMD calls their micro code updates is AG akiza I've heard venice' I've heard them pronounce it once or twice before a GES a which is AMD I don't know what the rest of it stands for I knew what it stood for a minute ago hold on let's see if I can find it it stands for something gisa something important it's AMD Amanda rose collection sterling silver diamond necklace AMD generic encapsulated software architecture does what a geesa stands for anyway though um about a month ago they rolled out one point zero zero four you're one point zero point zero point four and what has now been discussed by gigabyte in some forums and on overclockers UK where they've been talking about an upcoming gigabyte bios update for some of those easy I'm sorry ex 370 boards and gigabyte was talking about various things like it's going to help out with I am iommu fixes and some other options like disabling the land and ROM image update and cold boot options and all that kind of stuff but at the end of it they mentioned also a GC 1 0-0 6 which is going to improve memory support yay he said got high hopes for this one get it enable 20 plus memory registers so um that's pretty cool memory support has been sort of flaky with AMD depending on what memory modules who use this is a big part of the reason why just g.skill launched their flair x-series very specifically Samsung be die single ranked ddr4 configurations which is going to give you much much better potential for having compatibility out of the box with AMD rise in platforms and having faster memory on resin is a very very fat very very good way to get better performance in particular a much a very good way to get better gaming performances that's what you're aiming for the article points out some of the things that were updated with the one 0:04 update from last month they reduced drm latency by 6 nanoseconds they resolved the FMA 3 code sequence bug that was causing system Ang's they resolved an overclocked sleep bug and a couple other things but basically it's coming soon since gigabyte obviously has it or has some version of its that they're rolling rolling into a UEFI update so if you have a Rison system you should definitely get it as soon as it's available and would be available via a bios or UEFI update download from your motherboard manufacturer so whether if you have asrock gigabyte msi or asus motherboard they should have that on their support page as soon as that rolls out hello everyone get that sounds good alright um wow we've actually used that most of the time but we are going to answer some questions here towards the end of the show and we are also going to do some johnson chef shoutouts very shortly as well so thanks to all you guys who have donated during the show your lovely people and I guess maybe let's should we just get right into that yeah sure ok Oh C vs a-holes hat all right so we got flippin Fred I believe is this is this I don't see what the does it does it separate is Kyle's half Gerald I hear ya oh did you put yours no Kyle the quote was from the big from the Big Lebowski ah okay wait what Oh Gerald let's did you find out where the beginning is why does it say Kyle's half down there dude tomorrow's already the tenth cuz we read these ones right right right now this it's false half cells just drunk this is you're right correct cells drunk gets pulled out okay it's fine it's fine lay off lay off the booze so it's fine all right on to my half first often $5 from automatic Matt thank you Matt thank you for welcoming Bianca but Kyle scared her off a bit now you got a winner over PS thanks guys what I don't know why I'm surprised hey I you know she's probably better off you know my room I did her a favor by scaring the living daylights out of her you know she's in a better place now I've always been one to say you know what you just got to be yourself from the get-go how do people know what they're in for because if you try to if you try to you know cover it ain't just lovely picture of yourself or whatever eventually that's gonna fall apart yep and so you know you just give back look Here I am whip it out and maybe maybe I'm offensive to the you know female people small end region each tribe you know what what why I don't know just where I'm not sure where I was like a left turn in there yeah I did not follow along Matt thank you for your donation yeah thanks man that's what we're trying to get at crimson beneth help don't know what to choose for dedicated 3d modeling animation gaming rig components is it better by Zen 1,800 x in a vega RX for 580 or go intel right now by and large it seems like if you want the most bang for your buck go for an 8 core AMD rising processor which you can get for as little as 320 330 bucks for a 1,700 especially if you're willing to overclock it a little bit that is where you will get the most performance for your money and that seems to apply very broadly to most CPU intensive tasks there's a of course a bit more of a question that comes into it and a bit more options and potential Intel competition when it comes to specifically gaming but if you're talking about through your modeling animation well you also said gaming but 3d modeling and animation I'd say go for that rise in CPU right now and then as far as your GPU just just check what software you're using to see if it uses CUDA if it uses OpenCL and plan accordingly if it's if it's cuda heavy if they work very closely with Nvidia I would say maybe go with it and video GPU if it's OpenCL go for Andy but thank you Crimson beneth Bayless Jared beigel Jared Gerald Baker that Jimmy burger for the $10 Gerald Baker thank you again for the 10 buck I'll the quote was from Big Lebowski thank you for refreshing my memory Paul I'm drinking green flash GFB none of your wonderful pub last lovely in true what Ron Swanson fashion here is $10 do with it how you see fit Michele thank you sir love round cheers to you he's the best leaver mature um Odin hey and runs our hands are $5 there's your lost revenue thank you all I didn't think you can play that ukulele by the way Kyle said my name right lol Odin Oda hunt now I forgot how I said it oh honey oh damn Oda hang o tehani I hope it's in tune oda hein overhang sing us a song all don't know if it's in tune also i have not practiced all right you you play the song and then I'll read the donation comments in singsong you know to your to your music school lullaby that's how we're going to do all the comments donation questions from now the melody Jeb Bush no $15 donation please cheer me on while I work on the thesis I have to defend on Friday also here's some of the money I just won back from a scammer because I have a Dworkin oh thanks jack mustard we don't intend Devi's the RGB PC has 7 terabytes more of storage now mix again hole fingered accomplish a /n TGS that's that's mustard for that is the if if I'm reading this correctly there's the winner of the RGB PC oh yeah and apparently he has Adam Freeman terabytes of storage that's frickin excellent Wow does everyone win an immature link to which maybe I can pull up yes oh I totally do that ok all right hold on let's see if we're gonna do that I'm curious okay Cal Cal maybe you can you can keep moving on yeah okay uh mystics tube for the $10 in Canadian I would love to see a video with a GPU cooled by a hyper Evo 212 for science also happy to see you spread the word about net neutrality yes that'd be an interesting video hyper 212 cooling a GPU I'm stealing that one that would be interesting totally stealing that one I don't know it's gotta be possible Robert Davis for the five bucks I am water cooling my computer what company should I use and which should I avoid also softer heart tubing I haven't bending ever soft tubing if you really want just like the easiest route yeah hard to me if you want to look maybe a little bit nicer but obviously spend a lot more time and an effort trying to perfect it there is a learning curve to it it can be stressful companies that I've used for water cooling mainly comprised of ek water blocks that's really like I don't say bits powers aren't very good for fittings primo chill I think also has a wide selection they've been adding more stuff recently and everything fantex has been expanding their line and then doing some GPU blocks and that kind of thing recently as well alpha cool has some pretty good radiators and things like that I check out alpha cool um yeah all those go watch all of Jays videos you'll know more about water cooling soon enough mate penny $5 Powell you finish your beer for five bucks first time viewer and love your channel he loves yeah I can probably do that and it's he's a first-time viewer okay so the only way that we're gonna get repeat customers here call it is just pound your second there you go you've already pounded a whole beer earlier today so what's another today Brian Webb two bucks can i buy some of your used components um if I you sell them nicer yeah yeah I'm not gonna just sell them just for any old person but I put them up for some but eventually maybe I'll sell them and I'll send out some message or whatever to go do this no I miss the first half of the show here Paul take my money Kyle I'll make sure you get my money's right next week Kota we know you're good for it I will come next week to collect from y'all ass coach you best believe son I will collect Daniel Drew's and a bag a buck knife Daniel yeah it's really ninety hey buck 90 solid Christian $10 burger in there last man show Linus mentioned the video had been in the pipeline for a while and they goofed on the name PS hi from OC hey oh yeah hello from Orange County and yes that happens sometimes especially like Linus he's got a huge team he probably plans videos out like months in advance I mean maybe at least weeks at least weeks so maybe he started planning that rig before Rison it's possible who knows but any rate 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relatively cheap oh who are we kidding you live in Australia yeah red red once again for $20 what do you think of dxracer chairs don't you have a DX no trace nope that's not its verdict here we don't know we only got two vertical got maximum acquittal no everything yeah yeah yeah I'll do it for gun sebastian me Casilla 20 ALS mini-itx micro-atx kini build with aim I don't know jiggly's well everybody all right is that a blender no we have a few more here if you are Mini ITX my crazy ex you know do whatever your heart desires depends on what kind of function you want the board to have a bit more expandability options micro ITX more brand I like that I heard my three checks Thank You Geum did you have a little bit more expandability yeah your memory GPU you got another PCIe laying there my group Mini ITX it can just really need the smallest possible Rick be our battles $2 are we still doing this sir well then are we still are you I'm just gonna I'm going to talk next couple ones here yeah you can just will do the speak disease where you type music yep be our battles $2.00 what's the best upgrade for the price from my 970 I'd say a gtx 1070 perhaps significant increase in performance there and it's not going to set you back too much you know good 300 to 350 bucks you're the cheaper models I think that's a good place to start hold a sword for the five bucks so bold sorry bold ass or very blue sir very bold of you to donate without any sort of comment no no here it is I've had my 3770k and gtx 1070 with 16 gigs of ram set up for a few years now thinking i've gone for rising with the gtx 1070 now we're just talk about that what do you know or should I wait for things like Vega to release Vega is around the corner I'd say with your current set-up you're probably doing pretty well you don't need to upgrade immediately you probably hold out a little bit until Vega drops you can see for yourself with the sort of price and performance is compared to something like a gtx 970 and decide from there obviously we don't have the inside scoop even if we did we couldn't tell you about Vega performance so just hold out for it when launches are right around the corner it's worth your patience is generally reward Russell for cell $25 hey guys from a bartender and a brew pub here's a tip also expect a care package soon oh why thank you very much Russell from a brew pub I am excited yeah no doubts me very subtly checking my particular peel boxes frequently Kodu fellas what is the album coming out guys never any better recording equipment yeah we do first things first we gotta get signed label is it's very involved process crimson be Hillier one gbb no comment why thank you very much pre the tip and finally mystics Toob Toob canadian happy to hear you may look at the Evo 212 GPU idea yeah it was a great idea we will definitely check it out people do a clever on it or something like that we both heard it yeah yeah but um that's gonna conclude it for the donations guys thank you so much for for donating all that you have on both half the shows we really do appreciate it it does help and glorious Johnson shout outs bow where we close things out as we do really quickly we'll go over these because we were slightly over time now yeah thank you very very much Ian for picking up table Johnson Johnson serving the glasses is such consistent double jump it's cooler serious and in the pub last double glass option there hey Kyle D this is my my brother-in-law oh that's of Cathy a Kyle 2.0 I was like to come yes my brother-in-law his name is also Kyle he picked up a stay positive shirt dude you could have just asked for one I would just send me one it's like seriously we're related now money that's just a perk you get you just smell like hey castle on this shirt else give to you but thank you very much sir I do pay hey bro I have I have either Nicolas or I get get to hella I'll get to Nilla double Johnson we're possibly Nicolas oh yes say Johnson to both you 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